What?? Let me explain. Jay Riemersma, Executive Director of Gateway Mission and former NFL tight end for the Buffalo Bills and Pittsburgh Steelers grew up in West Michigan going to church twice on Sunday and once during the week, (Twicers Plus One)!

He thought he was good with God until his Sunday school teacher said, “Jay you can be in church 24/7/365 and not know Jesus.” Then, Jay was a big man on campus, playing football for the University of Michigan, with plenty of ego when God humbled him big time.

Next, if God has put a dream in your heart but it seems it’ll never happen, Jay relates, and has encouragement on what to do next. Then, Shawna used to think that when something bad happened, it canceled out all the good. Not anymore. She’s learning the power of “Also!” Last, we’re all crack heads. What? Yep.

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