The country spends over 80 billion dollars a year on incarceration, so we need transformation, not reformation. On today's podcast we are ReImagining Our Criminal Justice System with special guest Brittany K Barnett! 0:00 Episode starts  0:44 Personal check-ins start 1:16 Rob talks about time with family and being outside more 2:13 Rob mentions the relevance of https://www.netflix.com/title/81254224 (The Social Dilemma) and the case for tribalism 5:01 Jes talks about fall and life and cooler weather 8:31 Brittany K Barnett signs onto the conversation 10:20 Jes introduces Brittany and the importance of her focus being reframing how we look at justice 11:43 Brittany takes some time for a personal check in 12:44 Jes asks Brittany to tell her story and how she got involved in the work she’s doing  12:48 Brittany tells about growing up in a small town 13:12 Brittany brings up her mom’s drug addiction and it eventually leading to prison 13:48 Brittany mentions from very early on learning about the brokenness of the system, recognizing that her mom needed treatment, not prison 16:05 Brittany shares that she always wanted to be a lawyer, but as she grew older, it felt more out of her reach 17:04 Brittany started school for accounting 17:46 Brittany mentions a critical race theory course that changed her life 19:48 Rob asks Brittany about Sharonda Jones’ case, how it impacted her, and the importance of getting proximate 20:15 In 1986, the US Congress passed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act with a 100-to-1 weight ratio with cocaine 24:30 Brittany wrote to Sharonda about taking her case and how quickly they became like family 26:27 Brittany shares how Sharonda was released from prison by President Barack Obama after 16 years and 9 months 28:31 Jes asks Brittany what she could fix with a magic wand to be able to change 28:52 Brittany answers that she would change the retro-activity in the laws that are changing 29:40 Do we want a justice system? Do we want to pay to incarcerate people, like Sharonda Jones, for lifelong sentences? 29:52 The country spends over 80 billion dollars a year on incarceration, so we need transformation, not reformation 31:01 Rob asks Brittany about what gives her hope for what fuels her 31:16 Brittany gets hope from her clients and the https://www.buriedaliveproject.org/ (Buried Alive Project) 32:47 Brittany shares the importance of humanizing the data and how important it is for her work 33:44 https://www.brittanykbarnett.com/the-book (A Knock at Midnight) brings the story of incarceration and Sharonda Jones to light 34:54 Jes asks Brittany about how listeners can show up 35:09 Brittany encourages people to educate themselves about the issue and to reach out to local organizations doing the work and exercising the right to vote 37:49 Brittany shares more about how to get the book, available at https://www.amazon.com/Knock-Midnight-Story-Justice-Freedom/dp/198482578X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1535DMGFLYRVR&dchild=1&keywords=a+knock+at+midnight&qid=1602779737&sprefix=a+knock+%2Caps%2C-1&sr=8-1 (Amazon), https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/a-knock-at-midnight-brittany-k-barnett/1133745149;jsessionid=8CB2CC22BADBCBC76A6AD4FC6AD66DF1.prodny_store02-atgap11?ean=9781984825780 (Barnes and Noble), and audio book 39:03 Brittany signs off conversation 39:40 We have to look past the numbers to the heartbeat 40:01 Rob shares that his takeaway is the importance of the humanity aspect 41:17 Jes shares that her takeaway was thinking about Brittany’s comment of how much genius gets locked up beyond bars because of one mistake 41:49 Rob admits that the language we use to define someone behind bars does not give credit to genius 43:51 Sign-off 43:59 Outro Thank you to DJ Pdogg and Producer Lo Key for our awesome music throughout the show! Follow DJ Pdogg online: http://www.djpdogg.com/ (www.djpdogg.com) https://twitter.com/DJPdogg?s=20 (Twitter)...