We know people can be racist — and that reality is far too clear after witnessing the news on Ahmaud Arbery's death. But can a virus be racist, too? In the latest episode, Jes & Rob dialogue about the lopsided effects of COVID-19. Episode Summary: 0:00 - Intro 0:50 - Episode start 1:50 - Rob checks in with Jes 4:11 - Jes checks in with Rob 6:06 - Jes shifts us into the episode topic 6:43 - Data about Covid disproportionately affected the Black community 8:55 - Rob brings in two articles 11:50 - NC is one of four states called out in Brookings  13:38 - Talk about inequality through three areas: jobs, healthcare, and criminal justice 13:54 - Inequality in jobs 14:28 - Jes weighs in on job inequality 14:45 - Jes tells story about Tyson plant 16:22 - It is a race issue 17:30 - Is the virus racist? No. The system is 18:18 - Jes wraps up the jobs section 18:45 - Inequality in healthcare 19:26 - Jes quotes some statistics on healthcare inequality 20:13 - Jes talks about White House call with community leaders 22:31 - Jes asks Rob for his thoughts on her call 22:49 - No one is a blank slate coming to this conversation 24:35 - Rob asks Jes what she processes hearing these statistics 28:30 - Jes reads another healthcare statistic  29:50 - Rob talks about leaning in and getting proximate 30:22 - Men of color at risk for wearing facemasks to get groceries 31:41 - You don’t see the same protests in other countries 33:41 - Bryan Stevenson quote: you have to get proximate to suffering 35:30 - Jes - there isn’t a “todo” list, we need to be better and keep learning 36:35 - Would you trade places with a Black essential worker? 37:20 - Being able to have these conversations is the action item 42:12 - JUST podcast is on social media now (@thepodcastjust) 42:44 - Show up for local organizations that are run by people of color and helping people of color 43:42 - Use this podcast to venture into some deeper waters of conversation

Resources: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-black-plague (https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-black-plague) https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/04/09/why-are-blacks-dying-at-higher-rates-from-covid-19/ (https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/04/09/why-are-blacks-dying-at-higher-rates-from-covid-19/)

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Our hosts: Jes Averhart, cofounder of https://bwshomecoming.com/ (Black Wallstreet Homecoming) Rob Shields, executive director of the https://www.recitynetwork.org/ (Recity Network.)

Our Producer: Ben Azevedo, owner of https://www.bearcaveaudio.com/ (Bear Cave Audio)