Ron Westrum graduated with honors from Harvard before getting a PhD in Sociology from the University of Chicago. In addition to being a sociologist and a MUFON consultant, he has worked as a professor and has written numerous books, including “Sidewinder: Creative Missile Design at China Lake.“ He has worked as a consultant for a number of companies (including Lockheed Martin and Rand), as a public speaker, and as a reviewer for the National Science Foundation. He assisted with the formation of the Society of Scientific Exploration. Ron has been contributing to research related to UFOs and experiencers for decades.Ron can be found at:https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-westrum-6652648/https://www.emich.edu/sac/faculty/r-westrum.phpDeb can be found at:@StudyofUAPslinktr.ee/StudyofUAPswww.ufoconnector.comDeb’s Data Dojo music provided by Thunderbird@Thunder46216520https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ0diFCA1HHUch24LSusOsgCAB Podcast Network Calling All Beings - Debs Data Dojo - The Secret KnowledgeAvailable on:Google Podcast Apple PodcastSoundCloud Stitcher ListenNotes PodchaserSpotifyPodcastAddict IHeartwww.youtube.com/c/CallingAllBeings