In which Joel and Basie talk about Elsa Cross' "Poem under the willow," or "Poema bajo un sauce" in the original Spanish. We found the poem in the book "The River is Wide" or "El rio es ancho," collected, edited and translated by Marlon L. Flick.

We mention (and recommend) the following things: Studio Ghibli's film "Spirited Away," directed by Hayao Miyazaki. "The Wind in the Willows" written by Kenneth Grahame. "Voices in the Park," written by Anthony Browne. "The Wretched Stone," written and illustrated by Chris Van Allsburg. The fantastic podcast Pod Save the People. The episode that mentions Confederate desertion might be this one, but it also might not be: https://crooked.com/podcast/a-long-shadow/

Articles to support politically charged points made, and to correct us in general: https://www.history.com/news/how-the-u-s-got-so-many-confederate-monuments https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544266880/confederate-statues-were-built-to-further-a-white-supremacist-future https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/10/03/how-does-the-iss-travel-around-the-earth/#19d4a284141f

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