My good friend of almost 20 years, Derek Devine, joins the podcast and it is full of laughs, truth and gut-punches.

Having had the journeyman’s road in the NFL and navigating several stops in his career, Derek drops gem after gem.

We talk about:

• What true leadership looks like
• Why mediocrity should have no place in your life
• The importance and power of “reflection”
• Coffee beans @ 4am