Better Learning Podcast: Recent Episodes
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The Better Learning Podcast is about improving education at all levels - Schools (public, charter, private, independent), Higher Education, & Corporate/Adult Learning. The major theme is to break down the silos and learn from others doing innovative things within education. We highlight innovative programs & initiatives, lessons learned, improvements to educational space, and real-world tactics while getting a deeper understanding of the people behind the innovation. Our guests include Heads of Schools, Superintendents, Principals, Entrepreneurs, Non-profit leaders and other innovators. Kevin Stoller, CEO of Kay-Twelve & author of Creating Better Learning Environments, is the host
In this episode, Jeff Kubiak talks with Dr. Amy Alzina, superintendent of Cold Spring School District, about running a high-performing small school district in Santa Barbara County. They cover the mission of the Small School Districts Association, building genuine student connection beyond the classroom, designing flexible and indoor/outdoor learning spaces, funding strategies and community trust, and career advice for aspiring school business officials. The conversation closes on emerging school finance trends, concerns over new leave legislation's impact on students, and cautious optimism about AI's role in personalized education.
Takeaways: * Small districts, big impact: SSDA represents 60% of California's school districts, advocating for local control and equitable funding for schools with 2,500 students or fewer. * Every student needs three advocates: Educators should intentionally connect with students outside their own classroom, not just their assigned group. * Flexible spaces drive engagement: Barn doors, couches, wobble seats, and outdoor courtyards let students choose how and where they learn best. * Trust and transparency fuel community investment: Strong test scores, low absenteeism, and visible results (like plaques for donors) build the community support that funds specialist programs. * New leave policy risks instructional continuity: The 14-week pregnancy leave combined with a 30-day cap on long-term subs could mean a revolving door of teachers for young students learning foundational skills like reading.
About Dr. Amy Alzina:
Dr. Amy Alzina is a trailblazer in TK–12 education and a leading voice in the integration of artificial intelligence across California school systems. As the Chair of ACSA's Artificial Intelligence Task Force and a board member for both the Association of California School Administrators (ACSA) and the Small School Districts' Association (SSDA), Dr. Alzina plays a pivotal role in shaping statewide AI policy and practice as chair of the SSDA Legislative and Policy Committee.
In addition to serving as Superintendent of Cold Spring School District, one of the top academically performing school districts in the state of California, Dr. Alzina supports districts statewide in implementing AI tools that increase efficiency, personalize learning, and enhance productivity. Under her leadership, Cold Spring has earned a reputation not only for excellence in innovation but also for maintaining the highest standards in student achievement.
Prior to her current role, Dr. Alzina served in Santa Barbara Unified School District as Assistant Superintendent of Elementary Education and as Principal of Adams Elementary School, an ESSA Distinguished School recognized as one of the Top 100 Title I Schools in the nation. Her leadership consistently reflects a commitment to equity, excellence, and future-ready learning
Episode 346 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, host Matt Rogers and co-host Dr. Brian McCraw talk with Shara Bumgarner, cofounder of Houston's Joy School, and architect Janann Pittman of Jackson & Ryan Architects about creating a K-8 school built for kids with learning differences. From the school's humble start with four students in 1997 to its thoughtfully designed campus today, Shara and Janann unpack how intentional design - down to door handles and bathroom stalls - can turn a school into a true second home. They dig into individualized instruction, the "it depends" philosophy, and why joy, not just remediation, should be at the heart of every learning space.
Takeaways:
- No one-size-fits-all - Kids are grouped by specific learning needs, not grade level or diagnosis.
- Design follows philosophy - Spaces are built around flexibility and the school's culture, not just function.
- Details matter - Even door handles and toilet flushes were chosen to ease student anxiety.
- Safety enables learning - An anxious brain can't learn, so comfort comes first for kids and parents alike.
- Joy beats survival - Disco balls and dance parties aren't extras - they're core to helping kids truly thrive.
About Shara Bumgarner:
Shara Bumgarner co-founded The Joy School in 1997 and has been our Head of School since 2002. Shara's inspiration for starting The Joy School stemmed from witnessing bright students with learning differences and disabilities slip through the cracks in public school because of a lack of understanding of such students. Shara is committed to providing the most optimal, joyful environment for students and teachers with an emphasis on embracing individual differences. Starting The Joy School changed her life as an educator, and she hopes to have that same impact on each student, parent and teacher at the School. Outside of school, Shara focuses on her family, which includes her supportive husband and three daughters.
Link to Shara's LinkedIn account - Link
Link to The Joy School Website - Link
About Janann Pittman, AIA:
For over 35 years, since her first K-12 and higher education projects, Janann has been passionate about institutional and educational architecture that reinforces and expands communities, and impacts children of all ages.
As a Principal with Jackson & Ryan Architects, Janann is licensed in multiple states, with education projects from Pennsylvania to Texas. Janann seeks to understand her unique clients and their communities, so her designs reflect them and serve them in highly personal ways.
Janann comes from a family of educators and has served on numerous PTO boards and committees for her sons' schools, on the Rice University Alumni Board, and was a founding board member of Books Between Kids.
While Janann loved her time at Rice University, she is most enthusiastic about her middle school years at Shoreham-Wading River Middle School. Named a Blue Ribbon School the first year the award was given, Janann loved the fabulous arts and community service programs, and the focus on interdisciplinary projects, in smaller neighborhood communities. And, the amazing school even had goats!
Link to Janann's LinkedIn account - Link
Link to Education portion of JRA web site Link to JRA education web page
Link to Jackson & Ryan Architects Education brochure Link to Design for Education brochure
Episode 345 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, host Katie Jubenville brings listeners conversations from the A4LE Georgia Chapter Conference on Jekyll Island. Guests explore what "Radically Student Centered™" design truly means, the everyday details students notice that adults overlook, partnerships between design firms and educators, and creative problem-solving during construction — plus some fun local picks for how they'd spend a day on Jekyll Island.
Our guests, in order of appearnace:
Namrata Dani, AIA:
Corgan
Architect
https://www.linkedin.com/in/namratadani/
Jill Hackett:
Turner & Townsend Heery
Director
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillwofford/
Jesse Frasier:
Turner & Townsend Heery
Vice President
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessefrasier/
Carissa Shrock Oyedele, AIA, NCIDQ, LEED AP BDC:
Corgan
Associate Principal, Senior Project Manager & Architect
https://www.linkedin.com/in/carissa-shrock-oyedele-aia-ncidq-leed-ap-bdc-566a3685/
Heli Shah:
CDH Partners, Inc.
Project Director
https://www.linkedin.com/in/helishah/
Jamie B. Case:
CDH Partners, Inc.
Principal (Jamie) & Project Director (Heli)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-b-case-5a640012/
Dawn Hill:
Elbert County School District
Special Education Administrative Assistant
Episode 344 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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This episode comes from the A4LE Northeast Regional Conference in Rochester, New York, hosted by Jessica Westerduin. Guests discuss indicators of a successful school building, what it would mean to walk into their designs 20 years from now, the value of stakeholder collaboration, the role of flexible furniture and adaptability, and the challenges school leaders face guiding their communities through transitions and long-term visioning.
Our special guests, in order of appearance:
Lemuer Perez M.A. ED.:
University Academy Charter High School
Educational Consultant
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lemuer-perez-m-a-ed-752854145/
Matthew Gallerani, AIA:
GWWO Architects
Architect
https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-gallerani-aia-1ba88431/
Julie Spence, AIA, ALEP:
Lavallee Brensinger Architects
Educational Planner
https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-spence-aia-alep-a706588/
Elizabeth Geldres AIA, PMP, LEED AP, NOMA:
Stantec
Architect, Senior Project Manager, and K-12 Studio Leader
https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-geldres/
Jeremy Dwyer, AIA:
CannonDesign
Vice President
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-dwyer-aia-8ab0948/
Emily Czarnecki:
JCJ Architecture
Design Principal
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-czarnecki-a9863212/
Jennifer Grafton, AIA, ALEP & Melissa Martin:
SCHRADERGROUP (Jennifer) & New Holland Elementary School (Melissa)
PA PK-12 Market Segment Leader (Jennifer) & Principal (Melissa)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifergrafton/
Episode 343 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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This episode, hosted by Matt Rogers and Katie Jubenville, features conversations from the A4LE Midwest Great Lakes Regional Conference in St. Louis. Guests compare favorite landmarks to the Gateway Arch, then dig into what "radically student-centered" design means, sharing stories about maximizing impact beyond simple building replacement, engaging students and communities in the design process, and what separates schools that merely function from those that truly transform their communities.
Our guests, in order of appearance:
Josh Chism, PE, CEM:
Capital AE
President
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshchism/
Nicole Esser Dryden:
Plunkett Raysich Architects, LLP
Senior Associate
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-esser/
Philip Riedel, AIA:
NAC Architecture
Principal, PK-12 Sector Leader
https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-riedel-aia-a72b3522/
Brad Erwin:
Paragon Architecture
President
https://www.linkedin.com/in/braderwin/
Jeff Vandel:
North Kansas City Schools
Executive Director of Facilities
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-vandel-8b8a1ab/
Roger Bearup:
Grandville Public Schools
Superintendent
https://www.linkedin.com/in/roger-bearup-1432b8112/
Nicholas Kent:
Plunkett Raysich Architects, LLP
Partner
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-kent-a3604211/
Dr. Stephanie Loane:
CSO Architects
Senior Associate
Brenton C. Hite, AIA:
CSO Architects
Principal (Brenton) & Senior Associate (Stephanie)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brenton-c-hite-aia-70704838/
Episode 342 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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This episode features conversations recorded at the A4LE Southern Regional Conference in Austin, Texas, hosted by Dr. Brian McCraw and Nick Marmolejo. Guests dig into themes like community-driven design processes, trauma-informed design, furniture and flexible learning spaces, the overuse of "learning stairs," strong architect-educator partnerships, and what truly makes a school thrive versus merely function.
Our guests, in order of appearance:
Jody Sergi, AIA, LEED AP:
Kirksey Architecture
Partner and Director, PK-12 Practice
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jody-sergi-aia-leed-ap-0005a53/
Cody Boyd, AIA:
PBK
Senior Principal
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cody-boyd-aia-98368a35/
Olivia Graf:
Architecture for Education
Partner / Design Principal
https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-graf-7a0a8065/
Katie Becker:
JLG Architects
Architect and K12 Planner
https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiebecker1/
Gary Armbruster, FAIA, ALEP:
MA+ Architecture, L.L.C.
Owner
https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-armbruster-aia-alep/
Easy Foster, RTSBA, FAIC, CPC, LEED AP:
Conroe Independent School District
Executive Director Planning & Construction
https://www.linkedin.com/in/easyfoster/
Brad Hunt:
JLG Architects
K–12 Strategy & Partnerships
https://www.linkedin.com/in/brad-hunt-b14264286/
Sloan McLain:
Austin Independent School District
Administrative Supervisor of Learning Space Integration
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sloan-mclain-25a26b21/
Episode 341 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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This episode, hosted by Katie Jubenville, takes listeners on the road to the A4LE Southeast Regional Conference, featuring conversations with architects, educators, and facility planners about creating better learning environments. Guests discuss what it means to be "radically student-centered," the messages school buildings send to students and teachers, exciting trends in school design, and how to elevate teacher practice and gauge whether a school is thriving.
Our guests, in order of appearance:
Paulette Myers:
McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture
Architect
https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulette-myers/
Matthew Pierzchala, AIA, NCARB, ALEP, WELL AP:
Larson Design Group
Client Leader | Senior Architect | Education Planner
https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-pierzchala-aia-ncarb-alep-well-ap-8976311a/
Dr. Burke Royster:
Greenville County Schools
Superintendent
https://www.linkedin.com/in/burke-royster-b9436b56/
Robert Oetting:
Beaufort County School District
Chief Operations Officer
https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-oetting-a9742514/
Sophia Tarkhan AIA, NOMA, LEED AP, Fitwel Ambassador & Kate Edwards, AIA, NCARB:
Cooper Carry
Project Architects
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophia-tarkhan-aia-noma-leed-ap-fitwel-ambassador-64792a12/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kate-edwards-aia-ncarb-937a167/
Joseph Campbell, MS:
Charleston County School District
Construction Procurement Supervisor
https://www.linkedin.com/in/joseph-campbell-ms-741b61b8/
Aimee Eckmann, FAIA:
Perkins&Will
Firmwide K-12 Practice Leader
https://www.linkedin.com/in/aimee-eckmann-faia-269a584/
Episode 340 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, Dr. Sabba Quidwai, CEO of Designing Schools, joins the Better Learning Podcast to explore how educators, students, and communities can navigate AI with hope instead of fear. Drawing on her own path from history teacher to Apple to education consultant, she shares how districts like Roseville Joint Union High School District are bringing students, staff, and community members together to co-design AI-era graduate profiles — and why courageous leadership, shared culture, and storytelling matter more than any specific technology.
Takeaways:
- Hope is a teachable skill, not just a feeling — and it's the root of agency.
- Design with people, not for them — Roseville built a graduate profile in just three sessions by including students, staff, and community.
- Culture and story precede innovation — courageous leadership matters more than any specific tool.
- Students need shared context, not just a voice, or they'll default to asking for rigid rules.
- Local business partnerships make AI literacy real and practical without big budgets.
About Dr. Sabba Quidwai:
Episode 339 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Jessica Westerduin talks with Amanda Vottis, an architectural designer at Mosaic Architects with over 12 years of experience in K-12 educational design. Amanda shares her winding path into school architecture, her philosophy of "radically student-centered" design, and a deep dive into the multi-year Saratoga Springs School District project — a "legacy" renovation initiative built on an educational plan shaped by community input, teacher feedback, and student voice. The conversation explores how thoughtful design (learning stairs, breakout spaces, informal student areas) can transform how kids feel about school, and why understanding student behavior and needs matters more than just filling classroom walls.
Takeaways:
- Design starts with people, not walls. Instead of asking "what does this classroom need," Amanda asks "what do your students need to be successful" — shifting conversations from storage and outlets to real student experience.
- Community alignment sustains long-term projects. Saratoga Springs' educational plan, built through summits, surveys, and teacher/student input, has guided nearly a decade of phased renovations back to a shared vision.
- Dream big before scaling back. Exposing districts to ambitious ideas (like learning stairs and dedicated informal spaces) helps them aim higher instead of defaulting to "practical" but uninspired designs.
- Every student learns differently — design should reflect that. Just as teachers and coaches adapt to different learning styles, school spaces need variety to support how each student thrives.
- Ownership and pride change student behavior. When students feel a space belongs to them, they take care of it and use it — evidenced by the pride shown in Saratoga's new fitness center and cafeteria.
About Amanda Vottis:
Amanda is an Architectural Designer and Accredited Learning Environment Planner with Mosaic Associates Architects. With over a decade of experience, Amanda specializes in designing innovative learning environments for K-12 public schools, colleges, and universities in New York. Collaborating with clients from initial project conception through completion of construction, Amanda enjoys helping clients design projects that align with their unique educational goals and community needs.
Amanda volunteers for the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) New York Chapter Board, serving as past President, and co-captain for Mosaic's CANstruction team.
Episode 338 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, Jeff Kubiak sits down with Dr. Heather Sánchez, Deputy Superintendent of the Bellevue School District in Washington, to explore what it looks like to lead a large public school district from both the instructional and operational sides of the house. Drawing on 26 years in education — from a border-town middle school teacher in New Mexico to overseeing HR, finance, facilities, transportation, and more — Dr. Sánchez shares how Bellevue is centering community voice in everything from strategic planning to building design, and why the most transformative ideas often start with a simple "what if?"
Takeaways:
- Walk both sides of the house. Coming from instruction into operations gives Dr. Sánchez a rare ability to connect learning directly to logistics.
- Listen before you build. The best designs — buildings, programs, strategic plans — start with community voice, not a blueprint.
- Systemize the fires so you can dream. Clear crisis protocols free up the mental space leaders need for long-term vision.
- Small ideas, big impact. The Bellevue Welcome Center started with one hallway conversation. Transformation often does.
- The students are already ahead of us. They're bolder, more creative, and more advocacy-minded than ever. Follow their lead.
About Dr. Heather Sánchez:
Dr. Heather J. Sánchez is a high-impact and systems-focused K–12 executive known for delivering measurable academic results while leading complex organizations with precision, clarity, and vision. With more than 20 years of experience leading high-performing school systems, she strengthens academic outcomes, ensures operational excellence, and expands access to innovative learning opportunities. In her role as Deputy Superintendent, she provides executive leadership across district operations, human resources, and finance and business services, aligning organizational strategy, talent, and resources to deliver on the district's strategic plan and drive measurable results for students.
Dr. Sánchez oversees a comprehensive portfolio that includes financial stewardship, human capital strategy, facilities and capital programs, student services, and enterprise operations. She is recognized for her ability to integrate long-range planning, fiscal discipline, and organizational effectiveness with a clear focus on teaching and learning. Her leadership ensures that budgets, staffing models, and operational systems are tightly aligned to district priorities, enabling schools to deliver high-quality instruction and strong student outcomes.
Previously serving as Chief of Schools and Chief Operating Officer, Dr. Sánchez led districtwide improvement efforts that resulted in measurable gains in early literacy and mathematics, while strengthening instructional coherence and expanding access to accelerated learning, dual language programs, STEM opportunities, and student choice. She has a strong track record of advancing innovation and ensuring systems evolve to meet the diverse needs and aspirations of students and families.
Across leadership roles in Washington, Colorado, and New Mexico, Dr. Sánchez brings a rare combination of financial acumen, business-minded leadership, and deep educational expertise. She has served at every level of the PK–12 system, including classroom teacher, instructional coach, school principal, Director of Teaching and Learning and Accelerated Programs, Executive Director of Schools, Chief of Schools, Chief Operating Officer, and now Deputy Superintendent, gaining experience across elementary, middle, high school, and district systems levels. Grounded in this comprehensive background, she maintains a strong commitment to students, families, and educators, prioritizing clarity, communication, and a supportive, high-expectations culture. She is known for building trust with boards and communities, navigating complex challenges with sound judgment, and delivering results through disciplined execution.
Dr. Sánchez holds an Ed.D. in Educational Leadership and Policy, a Master's degree in Curriculum and Instruction and Educational Leadership, superintendent certification, and principal and teacher certifications. She has been nationally recognized through Chiefs for Change (Future Chiefs) and Women Leading Ed (Emerging State Executives). Her honors include the Washington Association of School Administrators Doyle E. Winter Excellence in Leadership Award and the Washington State School Achievement Award.
Originally from New Mexico, Dr. Sánchez is committed to academic excellence, responsible governance, and future-ready systems that prepare every student for success in college, career, and life.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-heather-s%C3%A1nchez-22171136/
Episode 337 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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Mark Barga talks with Larry Levato, veteran educational architect at Crabtree, Rohrbaugh & Associates, about what it really takes to design schools that serve students, teachers, and communities alike — and why the process matters as much as the product.
Takeaways:
- Design for teachers too. Educators spend more time in school buildings than students. Great design treats teaching as a craft that deserves a professional environment.
- Listen before you design. Client relationships and deep listening are the foundation of every successful project — not design vision alone.
- Slow down to get it right. Larry's biggest "risk" was pushing back a project timeline. When COVID hit mid-construction, that decision saved the project.
- Schools can lead change, not just reflect it. Even traditional communities can be guided toward more innovative learning environments when trust is built over time.
- Legacy is about people, not buildings. Larry measures success by how much he's elevated the architects, clients, and educators around him — not by square footage or awards.
About Larry Levato:
Earning a Bachelor of Architecture and Fine Arts from Rhode Island School of Design in 1988, Larry has worked with K-12 educational clients over the course of his 34 year career. He joined Crabtree, Rohrbaugh & Associates in 2010 and continues to work with our K-12 educational clients throughout Maryland and Pennsylvania. Larry is the current A4LE President-elect, appointing committee positions and focusing on the creation of a stellar conference which include host city selection, school building tours and keynote speakers as well as conference theme. As Principal, he focuses on overall firm management as well as collaboration with project managers in establishing project standards and Best Practices as well as advising on educational programming and planning which are implemented throughout the architectural studio.
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawrencelevato09191992/
Episode 336 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Jessica Westerduin sits down with James Liebman, senior associate at HMFH Architects, to explore how thoughtful school design can elevate student wellbeing, foster belonging, and support great teaching. Drawing on 30 years in architecture — from higher education to K–12 — James shares how the physical environment either supports or hinders learning, and how architects can create spaces that truly center students. Using the Maria Weston Chapman Middle School in Weymouth, Massachusetts as a case study, James walks through the design decisions that shaped one of the largest middle schools in the state into a place where students feel seen, supported, and inspired.
Takeaways:
- Student-centered design starts with listening. Every design decision — from natural light to furniture flexibility — should trace back to how students will actually use and experience the space. Architects must ask questions, sit with uncertainty, and let what they hear shape the design.
- Break large schools into smaller communities. The "concentric rings of support" strategy used at Maria Weston Chapman Middle School shows how architecture can combat the anxiety of scale by creating nested communities — from a team of ~100 students up to a grade, and then the whole school.
- Early visioning documents anchor every future decision. A district-wide educational plan created at the start of the process serves as a reference point throughout design, ensuring that smaller decisions continue to reinforce the bigger goals — and giving districts a durable consensus to build on.
- Architecture supports behavior; it doesn't create it. Great teaching and learning are already happening. Well-designed spaces — with good acoustics, natural light, adaptable technology, and flexible furniture — don't manufacture engagement, they remove barriers to it.
- Adaptability and budget are not opposites. Long-lasting schools require flexible spaces, but that doesn't mean endless square footage. Smart sequencing of spaces, movable furniture, and robust materials can create adaptable environments without exceeding budgets or losing funding votes.
About James Liebman:
James Liebman is a Senior Associate at HMFH Architects, a women-owned architecture firm nationally recognized for innovative, sustainable, and student-centered school design. With 29 years of experience, James skillfully balances stakeholder input, public budgets, and accelerated schedules to deliver K-12 schools that enhance student well-being and reflect the communities they serve.
As Project Manager for the LEED Gold-certified Chapman Middle School, he led design and construction administration for this 1,470-student facility, the largest middle school in Massachusetts. James earned his Bachelor of Science in Architecture from the University of Virginia and his Master of Architecture from the University of Pennsylvania.
Episode 335 of the Better Learning Podcast
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Mark Barga sits down with Dr. Tim Matlack (superintendent), Ken Bonkoski (director of facilities), and Phil Leinbach (architect, EM Architects) to tell the story of Antietam School District's response to a catastrophic flash flood on July 9, 2023 — and how a small, resource-limited district turned disaster into opportunity.
Episode Takeaways:
- Crisis demands rapid, creative pivoting. When floodwaters destroyed 110,000 sq. ft. of educational space housing grades 7-12 and the district office — with FEMA providing zero financial assistance — the team had to improvise immediately. Students were relocated to a church, a neighboring elementary building, and eventually modular units, all while school opened on time that fall.
- Institutional trust is the foundation of effective school construction. With a decades-long relationship between the district and EM Architects, the team could move fast without losing alignment. Phil's advice: don't discard your architect like swapping doctors — that institutional knowledge of budgets, building history, and community context is irreplaceable.
- Flood-resilient design is possible, not just theoretical. The new Stony Creek Elementary is being built eight feet above the breach point of the 2023 flood, with solid creek-facing walls, storm water infrastructure, and a simplified rectangular footprint — giving the community genuine confidence without making promises nobody can guarantee.
- A strong school culture is built on shared purpose, not just shared hardship. Staff, neighboring districts (Exeter SD), community volunteers, and the National Guard all rallied around the district. Tim credits the faculty's family-like culture — which predates the flood — as the reason the district bent but didn't break.
- Flexibility is the greatest ability in school design and leadership. Phil's maxim: "Be like Gumby — bend, don't break." Ken's approach: don't get overwhelmed by the mountain in front of you; prioritize logistically, stay calm (mostly), own your mistakes, and keep moving. Tim's anchor: shared values around student outcomes are what let a team push through frustration and disagreement.
About Dr. Tim Matlack:
It was a singular honor for Dr. Timothy A. Matlack to rejoin the Mounts community in the role of Superintendent. From 2007-2022, he was fortunate enough to serve in a number of roles within the Antietam School District.
For ten years, Dr. Matlack taught at the Middle-Senior High School in the Language Arts Department. For the next five years, he was given the opportunity to be an Assistant Principal K-12, Athletic Director and Curriculum Supervisor. In that time, he came to understand Antietam for the unique, supportive and tenacious community that it is.
From 2022-2024, while he was the Director of Teaching and Learning at Tulpehocken Area School District, he thought often of Antietam and leapt at the opportunity to return as the Superintendent.
About Ken Bonkoski:
Ken Bonkoski is a facilities and maintenance professional based in Reading, Pennsylvania, known for his dedicated service in public education. He serves as the Facilities Manager for the Antietam School District, where he oversees building operations and ensures a safe, functional environment for students and staff.
In addition to his work in education, Bonkoski is the owner of KB Construction, a company he founded in 1996. Through decades of hands-on experience, he has built a reputation for quality craftsmanship, reliability, and attention to detail across a wide range of construction and maintenance projects.
Bonkoski gained wider recognition after being selected as a 2026 Pennsylvania RISE (Recognizing Inspiring School Employees) Award honoree, a distinction that highlights non-teaching school staff who make exceptional contributions to their communities.
Colleagues and community members praise his strong work ethic and commitment. He is known for going beyond his standard responsibilities—often arriving early and staying late—to keep school facilities running smoothly and to support both students and staff.
About Phil Leinbach:
Philip began his career at AEM Architects in 1991 as a graduate architect and received his PA registration in 1994. He joined ownership of the firm in 2000 and ascended to President in 2012.
Philip's background is in construction having worked for the family construction company prior to attending college. For over 35 years, his architectural philosophy has centered around the concept that the greatest design is worthless if it cannot be constructed effectively and efficiently by the skilled contractors in the local marketplace. He is a hands-on professional focused on creating programmatic and operational value for his clients and providing responsive construction administration that is critical to the success of all projects.
Episode 334 of the Better Learning Podcast
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In this episode, Matt Rogers sits down with Candice Leinneweber, Director of Design at MA+ Architecture and 2025 EdMarket NextGen Award winner, for a wide-ranging conversation about what it takes to design schools that truly serve students. Candice shares her winding path — from a family bakery in San Diego, to an accounting class that sent her running toward architecture, to teaching college courses for seven years before becoming a licensed architect. The conversation digs into how her dual training in architecture and interior design shapes her approach to K-12 spaces, what it really means to design for security without creating a prison-like atmosphere, and the exciting Oklahoma Aviation Academy project currently under construction in Norman. Candice also shares her work chairing an AIA committee building a framework to expose K-12 students to careers in architecture and design.
Takeaways:
- Design with the "why" first. Candice's core approach — whether working with a client, a contractor, or a student — is to keep asking why until you understand the real goal. That clarity is what separates a decision that holds up 20 years from one that just looks good on day one.
- Security and joy aren't opposites. A recurring challenge in K-12 design today is creating spaces that feel open, welcoming, and engaging while also meeting rigorous safety requirements. Candice describes threading that needle on the Oklahoma Aviation Academy by designing for visibility, hiding places in emergencies, and an inviting open atmosphere simultaneously.
- Meet students where they are. Whether through student surveys, post-occupancy research, or thoughtful space programming, truly student-centered design means designing for the full spectrum of learners — the quiet kid, the kinesthetic learner, the future engineer, and everyone in between.
- Flexibility is the best hedge against an uncertain future. Rather than betting on what education will look like in 30 years, Candice designs spaces that can be rearranged, reprogrammed, and adapted — so a learning stair can be a tour stop, a study group, and a pickup class depending on the day.
- Exposure is everything. Candice's AIA committee work is rooted in her own experience: she didn't discover architecture until late in college because she simply didn't know it was attainable. Creating pathways for students to shadow architects, visit job sites, and see what the field actually looks like can change the trajectory of a career.
About Candice Leinneweber:
Candice Leinneweber serves as Director of Design, integrating mentorship and leadership into the firm's design culture while guiding innovative K–12 education projects. She champions collaborative engagement with school stakeholders to deliver thoughtful, user-centered environments that support learning and community impact. Candice also chairs a K–12 architecture awareness initiative with The American Institute of Architects, partnering with local school districts to expand access to architecture and engineering careers through tours, site visits, and curriculum integration.
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Episode 333 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Jeff Kubiak sits down with Katie Hylton, Director of Business Support Services for San Bernardino County Superintendent of Schools and newly elected CASBO president. Katie shares her unexpected journey from animal science major to school business leader — starting as a part-time attendance clerk and warehouse worker in Barstow, all the way to overseeing operations for a county office of education. The conversation explores how behind-the-scenes operational work directly impacts student learning, the importance of connecting business services staff to the "why" behind their work, and what it truly means to build radically student-centered learning environments.
Takeaways
- The invisible work matters. Clean, safe, well-maintained facilities directly affect student focus, comfort, and academic success — even if no one notices when it's done right.
- Connect your team to the why. Katie makes it a priority to get operations staff out to school sites so they can see the students they're serving. Whether it's delivering adaptive equipment or volunteering at a reading rally, that human connection transforms how people show up for their work.
- Mentorship opens doors. A warehouse mentor who taught Katie to drive a forklift became the reason she landed her first full-time job. Find your people, ask questions, and build your network — especially through organizations like CASBO.
- Be creative with resources. Tighter budgets require forward thinking. COVID funding was an opportunity to invest in long-overdue infrastructure like touchless fixtures and keyless entry — small changes with lasting impact.
- Ask students what they need. Flexible furniture, natural light, wellness spaces, and collaborative areas aren't just trends — they reflect what students actually need to thrive. Including student voice in planning builds both better spaces and student pride.
About Katie Hylton:
Katie Hylton is a seasoned education business leader with over three decades of experience in K–12 operations, procurement, and facilities management. As Director of Business Support Services for the San Bernardino County Superintendent of Schools, she oversees vital operational and fiscal functions supporting schools across the region. A longtime CASH and CASBO member, Katie is known for her collaborative leadership and passion for sharing knowledge as a presenter and speaker. A lifelong learner, she enjoys leadership programs that foster growth and reflect her dedication to strengthening educational communities.
Episode 332 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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In this episode, host Jessica Westerduin sits down with Regan Shields Ives, principal and studio leader at Finegold Alexander Architects, and Amy Vachon, principal at Gladstone Elementary School in Cranston, Rhode Island. Together, they explore how deep collaboration between educators, students, and architects shaped the design of Gladstone's new school building — one built around project-based learning, flexible spaces, and student voice. From visioning sessions with kids to co-teaching trials and curiosity centers, this conversation is a masterclass in what it looks like to truly put students at the center of every decision.
About Regan Shields Ives: Regan is a Principal and studio leader for Finegold Alexander's educational and cultural projects. She is passionate about design for education and creating spaces that are welcoming, safe, and supportive of students, teachers and administrators. Regan is a true consensus builder, leading school communities and large stakeholder groups to collaborative and cost-effective solutions. She is past President for the New England Chapter of the Association for Learning Environments.
About Amy Vachon:Amy is Principal of Gladstone Elementary School. Under her leadership, the school prioritizes students' academic and social emotional skills so that they are prepared to succeed in their futures. Amy's goal is to promote a safe school environment that is based on respect, kindness, and high academic achievement.
Episode 331 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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In this episode, Yuri Calderon, Assistant Superintendent of Business Services at Orange Unified School District, discusses what it truly means to lead with students at the center — even from the business office. Yuri shares his philosophy of removing the "business hat" and instead focusing on aligning every dollar and resource as close to the classroom as possible. He reflects on lessons learned across his career in Santa Barbara, small and rural districts, and now Orange Unified, making a compelling case for why small districts are often the most innovative. Yuri also dives into the power of replicating and iterating on great ideas, what a thriving school actually looks like when you walk through the doors, how to align vendor and architect partnerships around what matters most for kids, and why reading — not AI summaries — remains his go-to tool for continuous learning.
About Yuri Calderon:
Yuri serves as the Assistant Superintendent of Business Services for Orange Unified School District, leading all financial and operational functions for a 42-school system with an annual budget exceeding $400 million. He oversees budget development, multi-year financial planning, and fiscal strategy to maintain long-term structural stability in a complex public funding environment.
Yuri also partners with the Superintendent and Board of Education to drive strategic decision-making, strengthen organizational effectiveness, and ensure transparent, data-informed governance. He is committed to building high-performing systems that maximize resources in support of student success.
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ycalderon@orangeusd.org
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Episode 330 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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In this episode, Dr. Todd Cutler, Superintendent of Lake Tahoe Unified School District, discusses what it truly means to build schools that transform communities. He shares his belief that education shapes the future of entire communities, not just individual students, and reflects on his journey through three superintendencies to find what matters most in school leadership. Dr. Cutler highlights the district's innovative career tech education programs, dual enrollment partnerships with Lake Tahoe Community College, and a recently passed bond focused on creating flexible, engaging learning environments. He also opens up about the importance of high expectations paired with genuine care, the power of student voice in shaping classroom design, and why celebrating wins is something education doesn't do nearly enough.
About Dr. Todd Cutler:
Dr. Todd Cutler became the Superintendent of Lake Tahoe Unified School District on July 1, 2020. He came to South Lake Tahoe from Winters Joint Unified School District where he served for five years as the Superintendent.
Dr. Cutler grew up on the southeast shore of Lake Tahoe and attended Zephyr Cove Elementary School, Kingsbury Middle School and is a graduate of George Whittell High School. After high school graduation he attended New Mexico State University where he was an Academic All-American Football player. He received his B.S. degree in Secondary Education from NMSU. Todd went on to earn his Masters in Education Administration from the University of Phoenix, and lastly earned his Doctorate degree in Educational Leadership from Nova Southeastern University.
Dr. Cutler began his career in education teaching and coaching at both the middle school and high school levels in Gardnerville, Nevada. He began his school administration career in 1998 and has served in an array of positions. He has been a Dean of Students, Assistant Principal, Principal, School Improvement Analyst, Administrative Coach, Deputy Superintendent, and Superintendent. Along with Winters, Dr. Cutler has served as Superintendent of the Lassen Union High School District and Johnstonville Elementary School District in Susanville, CA.
Along with Dr. Cutler's educational and professional experience, he has demonstrated a commitment to be involved with the communities he has lived and worked. Examples include serving as the Mayor of Fernley, Nevada and volunteering as a site director for Inner City Games in Las Vegas, Nevada. He was a member of Rotary and a member of the Rocklin Education Excellence Foundation.
Todd has a philosophy of collaborative leadership. He understands the importance of engaging all stakeholders in the education process. He is committed to doing what is best for students and has a proven track record of improved student achievement under his service.
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Episode 329 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, David Marshall, CSC Contract, Grant and Operations Manager for the Center for Schools and Communities — a division of the Central Susquehanna Intermediate Unit based in the Harrisburg area — brings a unique vantage point to the conversation: an engineering background, 16 years in corporate America, 12 years as a facilities director, and now seven years as a business manager. That combination of technical, operational, and financial experience shapes everything about how he approaches his work.
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Episode 326 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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In this episode, Maureen Oakley, a school business professional at Pottstown School District in Southeastern Pennsylvania, brings a refreshingly candid and relatable voice to the conversation about what it's like to build a career in school finance — and why the field is at a critical inflection point. A South Jersey native and lifelong Philly sports fan, Maureen stumbled into school business the way many do: looking for a job with a pension, landing in payroll, and discovering that working close to kids in a mission-driven environment was far more satisfying than corporate accounting.
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Episode 327 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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In this episode, Nicholas Erickson, Director of Technology Services at Waynesboro School District in South Central Pennsylvania, shares what it's like to be the person responsible for everything with a plug — from pencil sharpeners to AI and robotics. With 18 years in education, 16 of them at Waynesboro, Nick offers a grounded and collaborative perspective on how technology serves as the connective tissue that holds a modern school district together.
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Episode 318 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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In this episode, Wayne Gehris, Chief Financial Officer for the Reading School District, delivers one of the most compelling full-circle stories in this entire PASBO conference series. A proud Reading graduate (class of '93) who attended a high school of 5,000 students before heading to nearby Albright College, Wayne spent 17 years in public accounting before getting a call that would change everything: Reading was on the verge of a state takeover, and a team was being assembled to turn it around. Twelve years later, he's still there — and the work is anything but finished.
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Episode 328 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Siobhan McMahon, Deputy Executive Director of the Association of School Business Officials (ASBO) International, pulls back the curtain on the organization that supports roughly 11,000 school business professionals across North America. She shares how ASBO works behind the scenes — not in classrooms or districts, but providing the tools, resources, professional development, and advocacy that allow school business officials to do their jobs effectively.
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Episode 317 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Lori McCoy, Director of Food Services at Colonial School District in the Philadelphia suburbs, brings a refreshingly different perspective— one focused not on budgets or buildings, but on what students eat, how they eat, and why it matters deeply for learning. A registered dietician with nearly 20 years in the role, Lori oversees food service operations across seven schools serving 5,700 students daily, managing everything from breakfast and lunch programs to catering, vending, kitchen equipment procurement, and staff HR.
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Episode 325 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Sidney Clark, School Business Manager at Shanksville-Stonycreek School District in rural South Central Pennsylvania, offers a heartfelt look at what it means to serve one of the smallest school districts in the state — just 285 pre-K through 12th grade students. He shares how the tight-knit, community-centered environment shapes every financial decision he makes, treating all 285 students as his own kids.
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Episode 316 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Ellen Darlington, Director of Solutions and Customer Success from C&A Scientific, discusses the company's mission to provide affordable, high-quality hands-on STEM learning kits for K–12 students. She makes a compelling case for why physical, tactile learning experiences — like that classic exploding volcano — are irreplaceable, and why the neuroscience clearly supports hands-on engagement over screen-based learning.
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Episode 315 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Scott A. Chappell, Business Administrator at Derry Area School District, brings a deeply personal perspective to school finance — he's a graduate of the very district he now leads. That full-circle story shapes everything about the way Scott approaches his work, from understanding the community's values to feeling a genuine sense of pride and responsibility every time a dollar is spent.
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Episode 324 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Brian Pawling, Director of Business Administration at Radnor Township School District in Delaware County outside Philadelphia, shares his unconventional path from aspiring history teacher to 25-year school business veteran. What started as a first job out of college in the business side of a school district turned into a career he never planned — one that took him from small rural districts with 1,200 students to large suburban districts with over 12,000, and eventually to Radnor, where he oversees finance, facilities, food service, transportation, and virtually all operational functions of the district.
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Episode 323 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Jason McMillen, Director of Business Programs and Services at Appalachia Intermediate Unit 8, shares his unexpected journey from aerospace engineer to school business leader with over 17 years of experience. He explains the role of Pennsylvania's 29 intermediate units, originally created to provide special education services, and how they continue to support school districts across the state.
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Episode 314 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
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In this episode, Dr. Marcia Stokes, Chief Financial Officer for Harrisburg School District, brings a truly remarkable breadth of experience to the conversation — having worked in school finance and operations across a Native American reservation in New York, post-Katrina New Orleans, and now one of Pennsylvania's most challenged urban school districts. Her career is a testament to the power of adaptability, mission, and the belief that you don't have to be from a community to fight for it.
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Episode 322 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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In this episode, Randy S. Williams, Sr., M.Ed., Director of Transportation for Wilson School District in Pennsylvania, discusses the often-overlooked role that school transportation plays in shaping students' daily experiences. He shares his journey from 34 years in transportation to pursuing his educational doctorate and superintendent certification at Wilkes University, driven by a desire to give back to the field.
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Episode 313 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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In this episode, Joseph P. Lubitsky, Director of Administrative Services at the Chester County Intermediate Unit, brings over three decades of experience in school business operations to a wide-ranging conversation about peer networks, stewardship, and what it really means to support learning from the business side.
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Episode 321 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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In this episode, Dr. Joni Mansmann, Director of Business & Finance at Canon-McMillan School District, shares her remarkable journey from Mellon Bank in downtown Pittsburgh to nearly two decades leading school business operations — armed with a teaching degree, a doctorate in education, and a deep passion for the mission of public schools. She's living proof that school business officials are far more than budget managers.
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Episode 320 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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In this episode, Cassandra Renninger, AIA, of The DRAW Collective, brings a Pittsburgh-based architect's perspective to the conversation about school design, long-term facility planning, and the evolving relationship between educators and the built environment. With decades of experience designing K–12 schools across the region, Cassandra offers a candid and thoughtful look at what it really takes to create spaces that serve students well — not just at ribbon cutting, but for generations to come.
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Episode 319 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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What if the way you lead a school could speak to every student, teacher, and family who walks through the door?
In this episode, Carla Cummins sits down with Superintendent Chris Mason of Quitman ISD in East Texas to explore what happens when a leader brings 22 years of diverse education experience — from coaching junior high kids to navigating federal programs — to the challenge of reimagining what a small rural school district can become. From his unexpected pivot out of criminal justice to championing mental health access and radical transparency, Chris shares how great school leadership isn't about having all the answers on day one — it's about listening, showing up, and building a culture flexible enough to become whatever students and teachers need it to be.
Takeaways:
- Leadership starts with presence, not a plan: Great leaders don't arrive with the answer on day one — they show up, build relationships, and earn the trust that makes real change possible. Being present and being available are two very different things, and both matter.
- Transparency isn't a strategy — it's a standard: When you say you're going to be open, you have to actually be open. Sharing the why behind decisions, inviting input at every level, and making sure your actions match your words is the only way to build a culture people believe in.
- Student-centered means all students, always: It can't be student-centered when it's convenient. From food service workers to bus drivers, every adult in a building has the opportunity — and the responsibility — to be a champion for a kid. That's not a talking point; it's a non-negotiable.
- Change takes slower than you think — and that's okay: For a leader who loves rearranging the desks, the hardest lesson is that going fast means going slow first. Front-loading information, finding early adopters, and giving people time to sit with new ideas is the only way change actually sticks.
- Student voice is the next frontier: Listening tours and staff surveys are a start — but the most underutilized asset in any school district is the students themselves. Building formal structures for student feedback isn't a nice-to-have; it's how you close the gap between what adults assume and what kids actually need.
- Community investment follows community trust: A $30 million bond doesn't pass because the superintendent asked nicely. It passes because 45 community members spent three months understanding exactly where the district stood and where it could go — and then became its biggest advocates.
About Chris Mason:
Christopher "Chris" Mason serves as Superintendent of Quitman ISD, where he leads with a steady focus on student outcomes, fiscal stewardship, and community trust. With 22 years in public education—10 years as a teacher and coach and 12 years in campus and district administration—Chris brings a practitioner's mindset to executive leadership. His experience in the classroom and on the field continues to shape his belief in visible leadership, strong culture, and high expectations for both students and staff.
In May 2025, Chris led the successful passage of a $30 million bond, reflecting the community's confidence in the district's direction and its long-term facilities vision. The bond initiative focused on strengthening infrastructure, enhancing student learning environments, and positioning Quitman ISD for sustainable growth while maintaining responsible financial oversight.
Throughout his career, Chris has been known for clear communication, data-informed decision-making, and a commitment to developing leaders at every level of the organization. He prioritizes relationships with teachers, families, and community stakeholders, understanding that strong schools are built through shared ownership and trust. Under his leadership, Quitman ISD remains committed to its vision: educating every child, every chance, every day."
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-mason-8b0815230/
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Episode 312 of the Better Learning Podcast
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What if the spaces we design for learning could speak to every student who walks through the door?
In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with Patricia Culley, Principal at Bohlin Cywinski Jackson, to explore what happens when an architect brings nearly two decades of diverse design experience to the challenge of reimagining K–12 learning environments. From her circuitous path through higher education and cultural institutions to championing outdoor classrooms and biophilic design, Patricia shares how great school architecture isn't about imposing a vision—it's about listening, iterating, and creating spaces flexible enough to become whatever students and teachers need them to be.
Takeaways:
- The design process is iterative, not prescriptive: Great architects don't arrive with the answer on day one—they guide clients through many rounds of exploration, often turning initial assumptions on their head before arriving at something that truly reflects the community's values
- Stakeholder diversity is your greatest design asset: Surveys, workshops, and hands-on engagement tools serve different audiences differently—the key is building a process that captures meaningful input from faculty, administrators, students, and the broader community, not just the loudest voices in the room
- K–12 owners often don't know how to use space as a tool—yet: Unlike higher ed clients who come in with clear needs, K–12 educators sometimes need help seeing how the built environment can actively support pedagogy; the architect's job is to create a shell flexible enough that teachers can make it their own once they're in it
- Nature is the great equalizer: Outdoor learning environments aren't an amenity—they level the playing field across abilities, backgrounds, and learning styles, and biophilic design principles belong in every school conversation from day one
- Variety sparks innovation—even for the firm itself: BCJ's intentional choice to stay a generalist practice means lessons from residential intimacy, healthcare, and cultural institutions all cross-pollinate into how they think about school design—because at the core, every typology is about how humans interact with the built environment
- Flexibility is the ultimate future-proofing strategy: For projects that span fifteen-plus years from visioning to ribbon-cutting, opinions will change, leadership will turn over, and priorities will shift—building adaptability into both the physical design and the process itself is the only way to stay aligned with the community's evolving needs
About Patricia Culley:
Patricia Culley is a principal with Bohlin Cywinski Jackson, an award-winning national architecture firm that excels in celebrating the spirit of place. Her approach to architecture centers on the balance between thoughtful, community-driven design and environmental consciousness. Patricia is a sustainability leader within BCJ and an active voice within the industry.
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Episode 311 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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What if the spaces we design for children today could shape how they learn for a lifetime?
In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with Dr. Greg Taranto, Superintendent of Canon-McMillan School District, to explore what happens when a growing district seizes the opportunity to reimagine elementary education. From an unexpected career pivot out of cardiac rehab to leading one of Pennsylvania's fastest-growing districts, Greg shares how Canon-McMillan is building more than a new school—they're building capacity for full-day kindergarten, balanced classrooms, and a future where every child feels like they belong.
Takeaways:
- Growth is an opportunity, not just a challenge: When your district is expanding rapidly, use construction projects to solve multiple problems at once—new capacity, balanced class sizes, and the launch of full-day kindergarten across the entire district
- Full-day kindergarten must look different than first grade: The extra time isn't about adding more academics—it's about structured play, developmentally appropriate practice, and giving interventions a head start before gaps widen
- Large buildings can still feel small: A "school within a school" neighborhood model ensures that even in a thousand-student facility, every child is known by name and every teacher is part of a tight-knit team
- Invest in teachers because they're "in the game": Administrators support from the sidelines, but teachers are the ones with students every day—involve them from day one on design, furniture, and classroom layout decisions
- Fiscal transparency builds community trust: When you show stakeholders exactly how much you've saved, how much you're borrowing, and what the long-term plan looks like, they see the value—especially once they can walk through the finished building
- Get kids outside and off screens: The research is clear—sunshine, movement, and unstructured play stimulate learning neurons. Outdoor learning spaces aren't a luxury; they're essential to how Canon-McMillan thinks about child development
About Dr. Greg Taranto:
Dr. Greg Taranto is a visionary and results-driven educational leader with extensive experience in K–12 administration, currently serving as Superintendent of the Canon-McMillan School District since July 2024.
His 27 year career in education includes roles as Assistant to the Superintendent, Middle School Principal, Assistant Principal, Teacher and Coach. He is also an Adjunct Faculty member at Pennwest University, teaching in Superintendent & Principal Leadership Programs since January 2012.
Dr. Taranto has received numerous accolades, including Pennsylvania Principal of the Year (2012), Outstanding Research Publication Award (2012), and the Frank S. Manchester Journalism Award (2013). He has an extensive list of publications and professional presentations covering topics such as structured literacy, social media, leadership, and educational initiatives.
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Episode 310 of the Better Learning Podcast
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What happens when you realize education has never really been designed for students?
In this episode, Jeff Kubiak and Carla Cummins sit down with Dr. Kelly May-Vollmar, Superintendent of Desert Sands Unified School District in La Quinta, California. With 34 schools and 27,000 students, Dr. May-Vollmar has built a district culture rooted in student voice, community trust, and relentless accessibility. From volunteering as an art teacher in her daughter's first grade classroom to leading a $675 million bond measure, her journey reflects a simple but radical belief: students deserve a seat at the table.
Takeaways:
- Student voice isn't optional—it's the foundation: From superintendent advisory panels to climate surveys with open-ended questions, Desert Sands builds systems that actively solicit and act on student input—because kids know what authentic work looks like and when adults aren't being transparent
- Trust is built through consistent presence: Attending every PTO and booster meeting, hosting "Coffee with Kelly" events, and sitting in staff lounges during lunch aren't PR tactics—they're how you understand what your community actually needs
- Eliminate barriers, not just friction: Borrowed from the Savannah Bananas' "fans first" philosophy, the district's "students first" framework has staff asking themselves in real time: "Are we creating a barrier? We can't do that."
- Alignment isn't top-down—it's everywhere: Board priorities (academic proficiency, future focus, warm and welcoming environments) cascade through every division, every professional development session, and get reported on quarterly with defined metrics
About Dr. Kelly May-Vollmar:
Kelly May-Vollmar, Ed.D. is the proud Superintendent for Desert Sands Unified School District (DSUSD), serving approximately 27,000 students. Throughout her over 20 years in education Dr. May-Vollmar has held many different roles and served in numerous capacities. Dr. May-Vollmar has served on the CoSN Digital Equity Educator Advisory Panel and is the co-chair of the National Chief Technology Officer Council and the AASA/CoSN Empowered Superintendent's Advisory Committee. She is currently a CoSN Board Member. In 2026 Dr. May-Vollmar was named a Superintendent to Watch by the National School Public Relations Association and in 2025 she was named one of the top 100 Innovators in Education by District Administration. In 2024 Dr. May-Vollmar was honored to receive the DALI Women of Distinction Award and the CalSPRA Superintendent to Watch award. Kelly was also awarded the CA CITE Educational Leader of the Year award in 2019 and the Association of CA School Administrators State Technology Administrator of the year in 2019. She is passionate about bridging the divide that often exists between curriculum and technology departments as well as bridging the digital divide for all students. To this end she is thrilled to have led her district to launch their own LTE Network to address the digital divide and to be awarded the CoSN Digital Equity Award in 2021.
Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-may-vollmar-ed-d-ab844678
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Episode 309 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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What if the buildings we design for learning could shape communities for generations?
In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with David Schrader, Principal at Schrader Group (now part of Cord Coplan Macht), to explore what it truly means to design schools that serve as community centers. From an unlikely start designing correctional facilities to walking through Alcatraz with drooped shoulders, David shares how he found his calling in academic design—and why he believes every school should feel like a town green surrounded by spaces where learning happens.
Takeaways:
- Start with the learner, not the line item: When districts lead with conversations about students and learning processes rather than dollars and timelines, you know you're stepping into something transformative
- True partnership means going on the journey together: The best projects span years—sometimes decades—of relationship building, surviving multiple boards and administrations while staying rooted in community values
- Flexibility isn't a buzzword—it's a warehouse mentality: Build simple structural bays where walls can move; combine that with modern furniture, and you've created adaptable environments the fifties never imagined
- Watch how industry thinks about space: The most forward-thinking work environments drip down through higher ed into K-12—and ideally, should start in pre-K and lift with learners throughout their journey
- The best buildings are community centers that happen to teach: Twenty years from now, success isn't about the design holding up—it's whether the building still feels like the heart of its community
- Design for timelessness, not trends: Avoid the puke-green glazed tile of one era or the split-face block and standing seam roofs of another—build something that can't be pinpointed to a decade
About David Schrader:
Principal, Academic Programmer, Planner, and Designer
For 35 years, David's professional experience has been focused on the design of next generation educational facilities. David acts as Principal-in-Charge and leads the design team throughout the project duration to develop and execute design solutions that achieve all client goals.
His ability to create a vision with his clients has fostered significant success for all involved including the client, the design team and the public-at-large. "Partnership in design is key to creating a better designed environment for each client."
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Episode 308 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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What if a school could rebuild not just itself, but the community's trust and identity?
In this episode, Carla Cummins and Nick Marmolejo sit down with Erica Thompson, Business Development professional at Wells Building Systems, to explore how schools serve as the heartbeat of their communities. From her unexpected journey through accounting and Colorado's early marijuana industry to becoming a passionate advocate for K-12 construction, Erica shares how building schools is about far more than bricks and mortar—it's about creating spaces where students discover who they are.
Drawing from her work across Colorado's diverse communities, Erica reveals how the built environment shapes student identity, why schools are "networking machines," and how one Denver neighborhood fought to reclaim their closed high school—and won.
Takeaways:
- Teamwork makes the dream work: Radically student-centered design means shifting from "me" to "we"—creating environments where students learn to build their teams and cultivate lifelong relationships
- Schools are networking machines: Beyond academics, schools create micro-communities—band kids, athletes, robotics crews—where students form identities and connections that last decades
- Research the community, not just the building: Understanding demographics, attending town halls, and reading master plans reveals what each unique community truly needs from their school
- Strategic, not sacrifice: When budgets tighten, stay rooted in your district's mission—make strategic decisions rather than compromising what students deserve
- Measure success by who comes back: When Montbello High School reopened after a decade, 1,100 of 1,200 freshman seats filled immediately—proof that communities will invest in spaces that invest in them
- Design for generations: Today's students become tomorrow's parents and grandparents—build schools that honor the past while serving futures you'll never see
About Erica Thompson:
My career began with an ambitious plan to become a nuclear engineer, which quickly
pivoted (after an honest math check) to accounting. I earned my CPA license at 22 and
began auditing small to mid-sized banks during the very exciting years of 2007 to 2014.
That experience led me into the emerging medical marijuana industry, where I helped
companies create GAAP-compliant accounting practices in a world needing it.
Reconciling cash without banks was as unconventional as it sounds, and it taught me
adaptability, creativity, resilience, and humor.
While entrepreneurship sparked my interest in sales, it was construction manufacturing
that truly shaped my career. I entered the industry as a Sales Representative at General
Shale, where I helped amplify regional brick sales and adopted my guiding motto:
Teamwork Makes the Dream Work. Under the mentorship of Mark Stutz and later Jared
Rabin at Rio Grande, I learned the power of solution-based selling. Shifting from
providing products to solving real problems. These mentorships taught me to build long-
term, developmental relationships, one of which ultimately led me to Wells.
Today, I serve in Business Development at Wells, where I focus on connecting with end
users to gather insights, identify market opportunities, and support strategic growth.
Surrounded by strong leadership, including Dan Parker, I've found my professional
home. This role naturally led me to A4LE and a passion for learning environment
spaces that do far more than house education; they anchor communities, shape
generations, and serve as points of connection. I highlight leadership throughout my
story because my journey has never been just about "me". It's a collective we. None of
this happens alone. Teamwork Makes the Dream Work.
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/erica-thompson-cpa-csi-cdt-141906172/
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Episode 307 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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What if the buildings we design for students could shape not just how they learn, but who they become?
In this episode, Jeff Kubiak and Carla Cummins sit down with Jesse Miller, Managing Senior Principal at PBK Architects, to explore how K-12 architecture can transform education from the ground up. From designing Compton High School alongside Dr. Dre to creating spaces where students don't want to leave, Jesse reveals how thoughtful design decisions today can impact generations of learners for the next century.
Drawing from over two decades designing schools across California, Nevada, and Texas, Jesse shares how truly radically student-centered environments are built through vision, community input, and asking one essential question: will this make a student's daily experience better?
Takeaways:
- Design for a hundred years, not today: Schools must outlast current pedagogy—ask what education looks like 70 years from now, not just what works in 2026
- Every square foot matters: From corridor nooks to bathroom design, if a student will experience it, it deserves intentional thought
- Put learning on display: Create environments where students can "shop their future" by seeing what peers are creating and achieving across campus
- Include every voice: Teacher workshops reveal current needs, but student workshops unlock what's truly possible—get both perspectives before a single line is drawn
- Flip the script on control: Traditional schools were optimized for managing students; radically student-centered schools support how they learn, move, collaborate, and belong
- Measure success by who stays: When kids don't want to leave campus at 9 PM, you've designed something right
- When learners thrive, communities flourish: This is the heart of radically student-centered design
About Jesse Miller:
With over twenty two plus years of expertise in architectural design and sustainable solutions, I currently serve as Managing Senior Principal at PBK overseeing the West Region, where I contribute to innovative and sustainable civic and education projects. I currently lead over 260 design and engineering professionals committed to elevating our clients places and spaces into environments beyond imagination. My previous leadership role as Regional Sector Leader for DLR Group allowed me to drive impactful design strategies in the California K-12 sector, leveraging my skills in design research and sustainable architecture.
Certified as an architect by the California Architects Board and holding credentials as a LEED Green Associate and DBIA professional, I am dedicated to fostering collaborative environments that prioritize sustainability and innovation in educational spaces. My mission is to create designs that inspire learning and positively impact communities.
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Episode 306 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
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What if your school building wasn't just a place where learning happens, but one of the most powerful teachers in the room?
In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with Anne Fullenkamp, Senior Director of Creative Experiences at the Children's Museum of Pittsburgh, to explore how thoughtfully designed spaces can spark curiosity, boost confidence, and expand what students believe is possible. From hallways that invite discovery to classrooms that adapt to every learner, Anne reveals how architecture can quietly shape mindsets, behaviors, and futures.
Drawing from her accidental journey from practicing architect to museum exhibit designer—where she's spent nearly two decades living alongside her own designs—Anne shares how truly student-centered environments are built through empathy, collaboration, and treating schools like the laboratories they can be.
Takeaways:
- Buildings as learning tools: Design schools that actively participate in learning, not just house it—every wall, hallway, and corner can tell a story
- Start with "what if": Center design charrettes on how spaces will look and feel, not just how many seats you need
- Remove barriers to curiosity: Create environments where teachers can respond in the moment without calling facilities for a work order
- Make movement matter: Balance gross motor and fine motor experiences throughout the day—even the hallways can serve learning
- Design for adaptability: Treat schools like museums—plan for environments to evolve with changing pedagogy and technology over 50+ years
- Budget smarter, not bigger: You don't need massive investments to start—make small bets, experiment with a corner or underused classroom first
- When learners thrive, communities flourish: This is the heart of radically student-centered design
About Anne Fullenkamp:
Anne Fullenkamp, Associate AIA, LEED AP, Senior Director of Creative Experiences, Children's Museum of Pittsburgh
With more than 25 years of experience in the museum design and architectural fields, Anne is responsible for design and execution of museum experiences at the Children's Museum of Pittsburgh. In her role as Senior Director of Creative Experiences, she oversees the Museum's permanent exhibits and collections, artist residencies, traveling exhibit program, design consulting and other business development programs, leading complex design teams consisting of artists, scientists and researchers.
Since joining the Museum of Pittsburgh in 2006, Anne has served as lead designer, contributing to the on-going development of the Museum's Play with Real Stuff design philosophy for informal learning environments that advocates for authenticity in all museum experiences. In addition, she is leading the Museum's universal design initiative, working with cultural organizations in Pittsburgh to advise on best practices for update the physical amenities to help make the city a hub for accessibility in the arts. As part of this work, she was part of the team to coordinate the implementation of Universal Design practices on the Museum campus, that resulted in MuseumLab, a major capital project on campus, receiving isUD certification from the University at Buffalo, School of Architecture and Planning's Center for Inclusive Design and Environmental Access (IDEA Center). Anne is the point person for ongoing research with the IDEA Center in the application of universal design principles on our campus. Likewise, she has received training from in the IDEA Center in the practice of universal design and continues to pursue continuing education opportunities in the discipline.
In recent years, Anne's work in inclusive design practices has expanded to include her design consulting work with K-12 schools. As part of the Museum's vision to transform education, Anne serves as an experience consultant for school districts, teachers and architects to help maximize the informal learning opportunities within the formal school environment, focusing specifically on the convergence of social-emotional learning and STEAM curriculum with overall health and wellbeing of the school community.
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Episode 305 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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What if your school building wasn't just a place where learning happens, but one of the most powerful teachers in the room?
In this episode, Jessica sits down with Susan Morgan to explore how thoughtfully designed spaces can spark curiosity, boost confidence, and expand what students believe is possible. From hallways that invite discovery to classrooms that adapt to every learner, Susan reveals how architecture can quietly shape mindsets, behaviors, and futures.
Drawing from her own journey where she helped design her Montessori school as a child to leading innovative projects across the country, Susan shares how truly student-centered environments are built through empathy, collaboration, and bold "what if" thinking.
Takeaways:
- Buildings as learning tools: Design schools that actively participate in learning, not just house it
- Start with "what if": Invite all stakeholders to reimagine possibilities before focusing on constraints
- Remove barriers to curiosity: Create environments that support natural learning instincts rather than limiting them
- Make opportunities visible: Use spatial connections so students are exposed to disciplines they might not otherwise discover
- Design for adaptability: Treat schools like museums—plan for environments to evolve with changing pedagogy and technology
- When learners thrive, communities flourish: This is the heart of radically student-centered design
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Episode 304 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Carla Cummins and Jessica Westerduin speak with Courtney Ter-Velde, K-12 Project Manager and Interior Design Specialist at LaBella Associates, about radically student-centered design in educational spaces. Courtney shares her unique journey from musical theater performer and sociology major to interior designer specializing in K-12 education. She discusses her passion for working with smaller rural districts where design impact resonates deeply throughout the community, including a playground project that transformed a district that hadn't seen updates in 30 years. The conversation explores how schools can be spaces where students find safety, develop trust, and discover their sense of self—going far beyond just improving educational outcomes. Courtney also reflects on the balance between technology and traditional learning methods, noting research supporting pen-and-paper learning alongside digital tools.
Takeaways:
- Schools shape more than academics: Design spaces where students can find safety, build trust, and develop their sense of self
- Support educators too: Create environments that empower teachers to focus on their vital work
- Ask deeper questions: Build trust with stakeholders to move beyond surface-level conversations about storage and into meaningful dialogue
- Every project deserves full attention: Budget size doesn't determine the level of care—smaller districts often see the biggest community-wide impact
- Balance technology thoughtfully: Integrate digital tools while respecting research on pen-and-paper learning and diverse learning styles
- People are our greatest resource: Collaborate across disciplines—designers, manufacturers, educators—to create truly successful spaces
About Courtney Ter-Velde:
Courtney Ter Velde, NYS CID, is K–12 Project Manager and Interior Design Specialist and in the Architecture Division at LaBella Associates, in their Rochester, NY location. A graduate of Rochester Institute of Technology with over thirteen years of industry experience, she specializes in educational programming, space planning, standardization, visualization, and evidence-based design that supports social-emotional learning, wellness, and equity. Courtney is an Accredited Learning Environment Planner (ALEP) and LEED Green Associate, bringing expertise in educational visioning, community engagement, pre-design planning, and sustainable, student-centered environments. She currently supports multiple school districts across the western NY region, guiding projects from pre-referendum through construction, including capital improvement initiatives focused on safety, accessibility, technology integration, and flexible, future-ready learning spaces.
A recognized leader and advocate for educational design, Courtney is a former New York Chapter President and current Northeast Region President-Elect of the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE), where she advances interdisciplinary collaboration and industry engagement. She serves on the Monroe 2 BOCES Student Foundation Board, mentors students through the IIDA Explorer Program, and contributes to professional discourse through conference presentations and publications. Through her design work, leadership, and community involvement, Courtney is dedicated to creating healthy, inclusive, and inspiring environments that elevate learning and positively impact the next generation.
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/courtneytroytervelde/
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Episode 303 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Jessica Westerduin and Carla Cummins speak with Sarah Dirsa, principal at KG&D Architects, about radically student-centered design in educational spaces. Sarah shares her unique journey from English teacher to architect, explaining how her teaching experience in Florence and St. Louis shaped her approach to creating flexible, individualized learning environments. She discusses innovative projects featuring collaborative zones, adaptable classrooms, and spaces that foster student agency and ownership. The conversation emphasizes the importance of listening to stakeholders, meeting learners where they are, and designing schools that evolve beyond traditional classroom models to prepare students for future careers and technologies.
Takeaways:
- Listen first: Understand pedagogical goals and community needs before designing
- Meet learners where they are: Accommodate diverse learning styles with flexible spaces
- Challenge assumptions: Reimagine schools beyond traditional classroom models
- Design for choice: Create varied zones for individual, small group, and collaborative learning
- Think ahead: Build adaptable spaces for evolving technology and teaching methods
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Episode 302 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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Register for the live stream here!
Kevin Stoller and Matt Rogers are building anticipation for a live stream event on February 2nd at 2 PM Eastern—and they're keeping it mysterious. They promise this announcement will be unexpected and game-changing for anyone in educational design, school leadership, and construction. If you're not there, you'll be behind the curve.
The hosts also reflect on their 2025 season exploring school movies like Billy Madison and School of Rock. For 2026, they're pivoting to tackle real industry problems while keeping the fun alive, with themes tied to their big February reveal. Mark your calendar and register—this is one you can't miss.
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Episode 301 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In Adam Sandler's Billy Madison, an immature heir's journey back through grade school becomes a wild, comedic exploration of learning, privilege, and the power of second chances. As Billy stumbles from kindergarten to high school, the film asks: what does it really mean to grow up, and how do our experiences in school shape who we become? And for educators, how can humor, humility, and a willingness to start over help us connect with students—and ourselves—on a deeper level?
Through Billy's misadventures, the eccentric cast of teachers and classmates, and the absurd challenges he faces, we see the importance of perseverance, the value of community, and the unexpected lessons that come from embracing failure. The movie reminds us that transformation—whether in a classroom, a school, or a person—often begins with a willingness to be vulnerable, to laugh at ourselves, and to try again.
On this first-ever live audience recording of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller is joined by Brian Schoch and Katelyn Forcucci, along with responses and insights from multiple audience members. Together, they explore what Billy Madison reveals about education, leadership, and the messy, joyful process of learning at any age.
Takeaways:
- Growth in education isn't always linear—sometimes it takes a few detours, mistakes, and a sense of humor to get where we need to go.
- Privilege and opportunity can shape our educational journeys, but real learning requires humility, effort, and support from others.
- Teachers and classmates play a crucial role in helping us overcome setbacks and discover our strengths.
- Embracing failure and starting over can lead to deeper understanding, resilience, and empathy.
- Laughter and playfulness can break down barriers, build community, and make learning more meaningful for everyone.
- The live audience's questions and reflections add fresh perspectives, reminding us that learning is a shared, ongoing adventure.
Join us for this lively episode as we blend comedy, education, and real-time audience energy to uncover the lessons hidden in Billy Madison's outrageous return to school.
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Episode 300 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, Julia Miller from Playful Learning Landscapes discusses how her team co-designs playful, student-centered learning spaces in public areas like parks and bus stops. She emphasizes the importance of including children's voices in every step of the design process, using evidence-based principles, and fostering community engagement to create fun, meaningful learning experiences for all kids.
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Episode 298 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Celeste Karier of FGM Architects joins Katie Jubenville to discuss designing radically student-centered educational spaces. Celeste shares how her team gathers input from both students and adults, uses surveys and prototypes, and encourages real-world feedback to create environments that support academic and social-emotional needs. The conversation also touches on the evolving role of technology and the importance of adapting to future changes in education.
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Episode 297 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Ronni Jarvis, Educational Solutions Manager at Alumni Educational Solutions, joins Lauren Glunz to discuss the importance of radically student-centered learning environments. Ronni shares real-world examples of how flexible furniture and thoughtful classroom design can support collaboration, student comfort, and engagement. (Here's an example of this!) The conversation highlights the value of giving students ownership of their space and predicts that student-centered approaches will become the standard in education over the next decade.
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Episode 296 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Dr. Lennie Scott-Webber joins Matt Rogers to discuss the importance of radically student-centered learning environments. Drawing on her extensive background in education, design, and research, Dr. Scott-Webber shares insights on how space, neuroscience, and universal design principles can transform learning experiences. The conversation highlights the need for collaboration between educators, students, and designers, and emphasizes the value of flexible, inclusive spaces that support engagement, well-being, and future-ready skills.
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Episode 295 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, David Shulkin joins Matt Rogers to discuss the journey of creating radically student-centered learning environments. David shares insights from his experience leading school renovations, emphasizing the importance of student choice, meeting diverse needs, and engaging all stakeholders in the design process. The conversation highlights the challenges and rewards of change management, the value of flexible spaces, and the need to prepare students for an evolving future.
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Episode 294 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Dr. Erin Reilly-Sanders joins Nick Marmolejo to discuss what it means to be radically student-centered in education. Erin shares insights from her work in educational design and teaching, emphasizing the importance of flexible, inclusive learning environments and the shift from traditional teacher-centered models to more collaborative, student-focused approaches. The conversation highlights real-world examples and practical ideas for creating spaces where students are empowered to lead, explore, and thrive.
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Episode 293 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Dr. Amira McLemore Wolfson, CEO of Pace School, joins Matt Rogers to discuss creating radically student-centered learning environments for students with autism and social-emotional needs. Amira shares how thoughtful classroom design, flexible spaces, and collaboration with staff and students lead to improved learning, well-being, and engagement. The conversation highlights the importance of evolving educational spaces to meet diverse needs and support student growth.
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Episode 292 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, interior designer Sukanya Walsh from Quinn Evans joins Matt Rogers to discuss the importance of creating student-centered learning environments. Sukanya shares her approach to designing flexible, collaborative spaces that adapt to students' evolving needs, highlights the value of involving students and educators in the design process, and reflects on trends shaping the future of educational spaces.
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Episode 291 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Dr. Brian O'Keefe, assistant superintendent at Wheaton Unit School District 200, joins host Katie Jubenville to discuss radically student-centered education. Dr. O'Keefe shares insights on recent school renovations, including flexible classrooms and innovative lighting designed to support student well-being and learning. The conversation highlights the importance of adapting to diverse student needs, fostering strong teacher-student relationships, and always prioritizing what's best for kids in a changing educational landscape.
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Episode 290 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Matt Rogers interviews Dr. Kirsty Montgomery, head of school at Avery Coonley School in Downers Grove, Illinois. Dr. Montgomery shares her perspective on radically student-centered education and discusses how thoughtful design decisions—like centralizing student support services—can positively impact student well-being and learning. The conversation explores the school's historic campus, the importance of community and student input in campus planning, and the commitment to sustainability and future-focused education. Listeners gain insight into how inclusive, intentional design and long-term vision can create a supportive and innovative learning environment for generations to come.
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Episode 289 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Matt Rogers interviews Patrick Smith, principal of Aspen Ridge Elementary School, about the process of designing and opening a new, radically student-centered school in Osseo Area Schools, Minnesota. Patrick shares insights on involving students, staff, families, and the community in the planning process, the importance of innovative learning spaces, and the district's commitment to collaboration and inclusion. The conversation highlights the excitement and challenges of building a school focused on amplifying student voices and preparing for the future of education.
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Episode 288 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Matt Rogers interviews architect Tracy Hucul from Quinn Evans Architects. Tracy shares her insights on radically student-centered design, emphasizing the importance of listening to students, creating diverse and inclusive learning environments, and giving students agency in shaping their educational experiences. The conversation explores how educational spaces are evolving, the impact of AI on learning and design, and the need for adaptable solutions that reflect the unique needs of each community. Tracy also discusses her work in CTE spaces and the importance of approaching every project with an open mind and heart.
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Episode 287 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Matt Rogers welcomes guest Dave Broz, professor at Columbia College Chicago and former global educational space designer. They discuss the importance of radically student-centered design, the shift away from "average" solutions, and how flexible, adaptable environments can better support diverse student needs. Dave shares insights from both his teaching and design experience, highlighting the evolving role of technology and the value of designing to the edges to create truly inclusive learning spaces.
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Episode 286 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, David Cupolo shares insights on designing student-centered learning environments. The conversation explores the importance of collaboration, flexibility, and listening to student voices in the design process. Key takeaways include the value of creating spaces that adapt to diverse needs and the impact of thoughtful design on student engagement and success.
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Episode 285 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, interior designer Jesse Readlynn discusses the importance of creating student-centered learning environments. He shares insights on giving students more choice and autonomy, the challenges of renovating traditional school spaces, and the value of early collaboration and community engagement in the design process. The conversation highlights the need to break from the status quo and involve students directly to create spaces that truly support their learning and well-being.
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Episode 284 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, host Kevin Stoller interviews Jeannie Haubert, Executive Director of LEARN. Jeannie shares insights from her experience in higher education, highlighting how student-centered design decisions—like creating welcoming student lounges—can foster community and improve learning outcomes. The conversation also explores the mission of LEARN, which connects academic research with K-12 decision makers to support evidence-based practices in education.
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Episode 283 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Jonathan Stanley Director of Strategy for Tarkett North America, joins Kevin Stoller to discuss the challenges and opportunities in creating radically student-centered schools. They explore the importance of early collaboration, effective storytelling, and community engagement in school design and renovation projects. The conversation highlights how thoughtful planning can help avoid missed opportunities and ensure that new educational spaces truly serve students and their communities for generations.
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Episode 282 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Kevin Stoller and Kelsey Jordan discuss the importance of including all voices—students, staff, families, and the community—when designing educational spaces. They explore how thoughtful communication, change management, and understanding diverse needs can help create more engaging, student-centered environments. The conversation highlights the challenges and opportunities in transforming schools to better support learning for everyone.
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Episode 281 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Robin Randall, director of the learning practice at Legat Architects, discusses the importance of radically student-centered design in educational spaces. She shares insights on creating inclusive, evidence-based environments that support all learners, including neurodivergent students. Robin highlights the impact of thoughtful design on student well-being and behavior, and emphasizes the value of involving students in the design process to foster curiosity and success.
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Episode 280 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Matt Rogers interviews Stephanie Matthews, Executive Director of A Tribe for Jazz. Stephanie shares how her nonprofit uses jazz and arts integration to create culturally relevant, hands-on STEM learning experiences for students. The conversation explores the importance of centering student voices, embracing technology, and connecting education to real-world career paths. Stephanie highlights the impact of immersive programs like Jazz Lab and discusses the evolving role of student-centered learning in preparing youth for the future.
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Episode 279 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Victoria Morlan speaks with Ashley Gould and Carol Crutchfield from Beaufort County School District about radically student-centered design in education. They discuss the importance of prioritizing students' needs in classroom and facility planning, involving the community in school projects, and creating flexible, play-based learning environments. The conversation highlights memorable moments of student engagement in newly designed spaces and the value of collaboration between educators, administrators, and families.
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Episode 278 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Matt interviews Lauren Frye, an architect and educator at Forsyth Country Day School. Lauren shares her unique perspective on radically student-centered design, drawing from her dual roles in education and architecture. She discusses the importance of involving students in the design process, listening to their needs, and creating flexible, inclusive learning environments. The conversation explores how schools can prioritize student well-being and creativity, and the ongoing challenge of helping educators adapt to new, student-focused spaces.
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Episode 277 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Matt Rogers interviews Samantha Blum, a senior interior designer at FGM Architects and recent Next Gen award recipient. Samantha shares her journey from healthcare to education design, emphasizing the importance of people-focused, experiential spaces that support student well-being and learning. She discusses the concept of radically student-centered design, offering insights and examples from her work on how flexible, collaborative environments empower both students and teachers. The conversation explores the evolving role of design in education and the impact of fostering agency and adaptability in learning spaces.
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Episode 276 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Dr. Noel Schmidt discusses his radically student-centered approach to school design and education. He emphasizes the importance of involving students in the planning process, from visiting other schools for inspiration to actively participating in design meetings. Dr. Schmidt shares innovative features implemented based on student feedback, such as slides and ninja gyms in elementary schools, flexible learning spaces, and abundant natural light. He also highlights the prioritization of instructional spaces over athletic facilities and the value of extensive community engagement. The episode showcases how putting students at the center leads to creative, future-focused educational environments.
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Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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Challenged to plan and design sustainable and resilient learning spaces that encourage innovation, critical thinking and collaboration, these young designers have broadened the potential of a school by connecting excellence in design with excellence in education. Their rigorous research, exceptional teamwork and eco-friendly solutions not only meet the needs of students, but address the economy and society of the future, enabling them to master the skills they need to take on the challenges of a world defined by change.
In this episode, recorded at the LearningSCAPES conference, Better Learning Podcast co-host Matt sits down with several teens from Desert Mirage Elementary School that participated in the SchoolsNEXT Design Challenge. They share challenges they had while designing their school, and the biggest success they found after it was over.
Award of Excellence - High School: Discovery High School: OAS Jasmine Wieringa, An Luu, Zac Tricola, & Ella Tretheway Discovery High School | Camas, WA
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Award of Excellence - Middle School: Lakeview Middle School: E-STEAM High School Learn More
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Episode 275 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, architect Rebecca Baibak of Integrus discusses her approach to designing Radically Student Centered™ learning environments. Rebecca shares how listening to students of all ages shapes innovative school spaces, from outdoor courtyards to flexible indoor-outdoor areas.
She highlights the importance of involving both students and educators in the design process, encouraging site visits and open-minded thinking. Rebecca also addresses the need to empower teachers to use new facilities creatively, ensuring that both students and staff can thrive in evolving educational spaces.
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Episode 271 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Matt Warren, Deputy Superintendent for Lexington School District Two in South Carolina, discusses what it means to be radically student-centered in education. He shares his commitment to prioritizing student well-being and individualized support, and reflects on the importance of strong relationships within schools. Matt also recounts the challenges and successes of leading a district-wide furniture replacement project, highlighting the value of teamwork and careful planning in large-scale educational initiatives.
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Episode 268 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Dr. Krystal L. Clemons, founder of Our Village Consulting, discusses the importance of centering students, families, and communities—especially those who are marginalized—in educational planning. She shares her strength-based approach to engagement, the need to truly listen and partner with communities, and highlights her successful youth leadership program that empowered students to find their voices and make a difference.
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Episode 274 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Carey Upton, Chief Operations Officer of the Santa Monica-Malibu Unified School District, shares his insights on radically student-centered learning. Carey discusses the shift from traditional, teacher-driven education to empowering students to find their own ways of learning.
He highlights the importance of flexible learning environments, the challenges of change among teachers, and the need to encourage all students to step outside their comfort zones. The conversation explores how facilities and pedagogy can work together to support more engaged, well-rounded learners.
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Episode 270 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Colleen Martinez, president of Visions In Planning, shares her journey from architectural design to educational planning, emphasizing the importance of radically student-centered spaces. She discusses the need to listen to all stakeholders, especially in rural communities, and highlights the value of inclusive, future-focused school design that meets the needs of both students and educators in New Mexico.
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Episode 273 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, guest Philip Riedel, an architect and global board member for A4LE, discusses the importance of radically student-centered design in schools. He shares insights on involving students in the design process, learning from post-occupancy evaluations, and adapting spaces to better serve both students and teachers.
Philip highlights innovative approaches to privacy and safety in school locker rooms and restrooms, emphasizing the need for thoughtful design and community buy-in. The conversation explores the challenges of implementing new ideas in traditional systems and the ongoing evolution toward more inclusive, student-focused learning environments.
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Episode 269 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Peter Sharma, a sustainability consultant with Stantec, to discusses radically student-centered design in educational spaces. Peter shares his approach to creating inclusive, sustainable environments by focusing on the unique needs of every student and integrating sustainability from the earliest stages of design.
The conversation covers the importance of addressing embodied carbon, climate resiliency, and the evolving expectations of future generations. Peter also reflects on industry shifts driven by environmental standards and the need to meet climate goals for the benefit of students and communities.
Listen to the last episode of the Better Learning Podcast that Peter was on, where Kevin and Peter discussed the movie 'Metal Lords'.
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Episode 272 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, interior designer Katherine Wiley shares her journey from growing up abroad to designing educational spaces in Texas. She discusses the importance of creating learning environments that are truly student-centered, emphasizing empathy, emotional well-being, and community involvement. Katherine explains how thoughtful design—considering factors like lighting, acoustics, and flexible spaces—can enhance student performance and well-being. She also reflects on the need for early and ongoing conversations about student needs in educational design.
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Episode 259 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, architect Michael Kelly of KCBA Architects shares insights from his decades of experience designing educational spaces in Pennsylvania. Michael discusses the evolution of school architecture, emphasizing the importance of creating flexible, student-centered environments that foster excitement and collaboration.
He reflects on lessons learned from past projects, the value of community and educator input, and the need for adaptable spaces to meet the changing needs of students and teachers. The conversation highlights the challenges and rewards of renovating older schools, the impact of thoughtful design on learning, and the importance of ongoing dialogue between architects, educators, and communities.
Episode 266 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Ryan Orr, principal at KCBA Architects, talks about his career journey from intern to leader and his perspective on creating radically student-centered learning environments. Ryan shares insights from his experience in education-focused architecture, emphasizing curiosity, mentorship, and the importance of empowering students to take charge of their learning. The conversation also explores how emerging technologies like AI may shape the future of student-centered design.
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Episode 267 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, architect Aaron Jobson shares how he designs flexible, student-centered learning environments that adapt to changing needs. He discusses the importance of engaging students and communities in the design process, creating spaces that support a variety of programs, and building for long-term sustainability. Aaron also highlights the value of real-world learning opportunities and the impact thoughtful design can have on both students and their communities.
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Episode 262 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, architect Jennifer Grafton shares how she brings a student-centered mindset to school design, even when resources are limited. She discusses the importance of seeing spaces from a child's perspective, engaging students, staff, and communities early in the process, and encouraging educators to embrace change. Jennifer emphasizes that even small shifts can disrupt the status quo and help create more meaningful, student-focused learning environments.
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Episode 261 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, principal emeritus Lorne McConachie discusses his decades of experience designing student-centered schools, emphasizing the importance of personalization, flexibility, and trauma-informed design to create learning environments that truly serve every child.
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Episode 265 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Jeff interviews Lydia Burns, an architect and designer from Bassetti Architects in Portland, Oregon. Lydia shares her insights on creating student-centered school environments, emphasizing the importance of engaging students directly in the design process.
She discusses creative strategies for gathering student input, such as surveys, hands-on workshops, and design thinking curricula. Lydia highlights a standout project where students in a CTE (Career and Technical Education) program collaborated on designing and building a tiny home, which was later donated to a homeless village. Throughout the conversation, Lydia underscores the value of including diverse voices—students, staff, alumni, and community members—in school design, and reflects on the sense of ownership and pride students gain from participating in these projects.
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Episode 264 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, architect Kevin J. Walsh discusses the importance of making educational spaces truly student-centered. He shares how his team involves students, staff, families, and communities early in the design process to ensure all voices are heard. Kevin explains how listening, gathering feedback, and adapting to changing needs help create learning environments that are flexible, inclusive, and responsive to those they serve.
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Episode 260 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, architect Angel Hosband shares how student-centered design transformed a high school in Bakersfield, California. By creating open, collaborative spaces for both students and teachers, the school fostered a stronger sense of community and support—even in a challenging environment. Angel also discusses the importance of inclusive design for students with additional needs, emphasizing the value of flexibility, empathy, and holistic thinking in educational spaces.
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Episode 263 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, host Nick welcomes Danny Sewell from Muso and his innovative creation, Juice Bot. The conversation covers Danny's cross-country journey, the inspiration behind Juice Bot, and the importance of making learning both accessible and fun.
Danny discusses the concept of being radically student-centered, emphasizing the need to prioritize students' diverse learning needs, celebrate cultural and linguistic diversity, and use technology to enhance access and engagement. The episode explores the role of music, imagination, and "serious fun" in education, highlighting how tools like Juice Bot can foster creativity, inclusivity, and lifelong learning. Danny also shares thoughts on balancing technology with imagination, the value of boredom, and the importance of empowering teachers as the "secret sauce" in education. The episode wraps up with resources for connecting with Danny and Juice Bot online.
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Episode 255 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Brian Proctor, a former educator and now architect at Ratio Design, discusses the importance of radically student-centered school design. Drawing on his experience as a principal and designer, Brian emphasizes listening to student voices, creating flexible and future-ready learning spaces, and challenging traditional adult-driven decisions. The conversation highlights the value of community involvement, adapting to evolving technology, and ensuring that educational environments truly serve students' needs now and in the future.
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Episode 257 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, Kevin interviews Stefee Knudsen, principal at Bora Architecture and Interiors, about designing radically student-centered high schools. Stefee discusses the challenges and opportunities in creating flexible, inspiring educational spaces that adapt to students' needs, highlighting the importance of long-term vision, community investment, and innovation in school design.
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 253 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, host Jeff interviews John Pfluger of the Cunningham Group about the award-winning design of Rock Ridge High School and two elementary schools in Minnesota. John shares the philosophy of "Dancing with the Yeti"—embracing challenges with creativity and collaboration—and discusses how student-centered design and a deep connection to the local landscape shaped these innovative educational spaces.
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Episode 252 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, Jeff Kubiak interviews Robert Dillon, an influential educator and author known for his work on intentional school design and Radically Student Centered™ learning.
Robert shares insights from his experience as a teacher, principal, and parent, emphasizing the importance of adapting education to meet students' needs and creating modern learning environments. He discusses the value of common language in education, translating research into practice, and advocating for better learning spaces, especially for communities with limited resources.
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Episode 251 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, Michelle Klosterman, Assistant Head of School at Forsyth Country Day School, discusses what it means to be "radically student centered" in education. She shares her journey from biomedical engineering to education, emphasizing the importance of making every decision with students' needs at the forefront.
Michelle describes how independent schools can be more agile in implementing innovative learning spaces and highlights the impact of involving students in the design of their environments. She also reflects on the evolving needs of students, the importance of self-regulation, and the necessity for educators to adapt as students change over time. The conversation offers practical insights into creating learning environments that truly prioritize and empower students.
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Episode 258 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, architect Jeremy Ortiz of Archis discusses the importance of radically student-centered school design. He explores how thoughtful planning, flexibility, and understanding diverse learning needs are essential for creating effective educational environments. Jeremy and the host reflect on the evolving role of technology, the value of hands-on and personalized learning, and the resurgence of career and technical education (CTE) pathways. The conversation emphasizes lifelong learning, the need for multiple educational paths, and the irreplaceable human element in education.
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Episode 254 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, interior designer Courtney Ter-Velde shares her approach to creating student-centered learning environments. She emphasizes the importance of involving students in the design process, understanding their unique needs, and integrating technology thoughtfully. Courtney discusses recent projects, including a new accessible playground, and highlights how technology like VR can enhance both student engagement and design feedback. The conversation underscores the value of listening to students and adapting educational spaces to support diverse learning styles and future needs.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
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Episode 256 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In Pixar's WALL-E, a lonely robot's quest to clean up a deserted Earth becomes a sweeping meditation on sustainability, technology, and the human spirit. As WALL-E and Eve spark change aboard the Axiom, the film asks: what does it take to break free from comfort, complacency, and the status quo? And how can educators plant the seeds of curiosity and responsibility in a world shaped by screens, systems, and inertia?
Through the eyes of WALL-E, the Captain, and the humans rediscovering their planet, we see the power of small acts, the danger of losing connection, and the hope that comes from daring to do things differently. The movie reminds us that transformation—of people, schools, or even the world—often begins with a single spark, a question, or a leader willing to make a bold decision.
On this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller and co-host Carla Cummins are joined by Ron Lamarre and Megan Brown to explore what WALL-E reveals about education, leadership, and the urgent need for change in how we learn, build, and care for our communities.
Takeaways:
- True change in education and society starts with leaders willing to challenge the status quo and act with conviction.
- Comfort and convenience can stifle curiosity, connection, and growth—educators must help students (and themselves) break out of complacency.
- Every system, from schools to cities, is shaped by the values and choices of its people; small actions can tip the balance toward regeneration and hope.
- Fostering empathy, critical thinking, and a sense of responsibility prepares students not just for tests, but for life on a changing planet.
- Like WALL-E, educators can be the spark that helps others rediscover wonder, care, and the courage to build something better.
About Megan Brown:
Megan Brown
AIA, CPHD, LEED AP BD+C
Associate, FA Energy Team Manager
Megan brings a diverse range of project experiences in various typologies, including laboratories, higher education, civic and cultural projects. Many of these undertakings have been unique and highly technical, such as research greenhouses, cleanrooms, and aerospace engineering labs.
Megan's true passion lies in high-performance buildings, building science, healthy materials, and embodied carbon studies. As a Certified Passive House Designer, she is eager to apply this knowledge to all future projects. She is constantly mindful of the pressing need to reduce carbon emissions in the built environment. Megan thrives on delving into research and technical details to discover more sustainable construction methods.
Megan's initial fascination with architecture stemmed from her love of physics, dating back to her high school days of building egg drop models and toothpick bridges. Her very first architectural drawing, crafted around the age of 10, featured a three-level circular house, complete with spiral staircases. It may have had a few inefficiencies!
Outside of the office, you'll often find Megan in the great outdoors, enjoying quality time with her family and fluffy dog amidst the lush forest behind their home.
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganwbrown16/
About Ron Lamarre:
Ron Lamarre
AIA, ALEP, ALA, LEED-WELL AP, MCPPO, NCARB
Senior Associate, Architect, Accredited Learning Environment Planner
As an architect focused on the planning and design of inspiring and meaningful environments that encourage life-long learning, Ron's success has always been attributed to listening to clients, colleagues, industry partners, and all members of our community. He believes leading the process that creates memorable places and spaces is an honor; requiring constant innovation found in continuous research to understand and implement evolving technologies that enable long-lasting value and a sustainable future. When Ron is not "doing", he's learning, whether the easy way through researching the success of others or the hard way by re-doing failed improvement attempts on his camp in Maine.
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronlamarre/
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Episode 250 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In Can't Hardly Wait, a graduating class gathers for one unforgettable night — a chaotic, emotional, and often hilarious collision of cliques, identities, and expectations. Beneath the 90s nostalgia and party anthems, the film poses a timeless question for educators: how do young people find belonging and purpose in a world so quick to label and divide them?
Through characters like Preston, Amanda, and Denise, we see the tension between perception and authenticity — between who students think they should be and who they truly are. The movie reminds us that every learner is in their own process of discovery, and that connection and empathy can transform even the most uncertain transitions into opportunities for growth.
On this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Carla Cummins and new co-host Jessica Westerduin sit down with Jay Doherty to unpack what Can't Hardly Wait reveals about identity, belonging, and the powerful role educators play in helping students write their next chapter with confidence and hope.
Takeaways:
- Every student carries a story beyond the surface — belonging starts when educators listen deeply.
- Transitional moments, like graduation, can spark reflection, growth, and the courage to reinvent oneself.
- Schools that embrace diversity of thought, emotion, and identity prepare students for more than success — they prepare them for life.
- When educators foster genuine connection, they help students see that they're already enough, just as they are.
About Jay Doherty:
Jay Doherty is a K–12 Design Principal, Project Architect, and Certified Educational Planner (ALEP) at Lavallee Brensinger Architects in New England. He is passionate about designing educational and inspiring spaces that nurture the next generation of thinkers and doers.
Jay's favorite place to be is at the intersection of art and science—a place where creativity and logic meet. He finds joy in the balance between these disciplines, whether it's expressed through thoughtful architecture, a well-composed piece of music, a carefully crafted beverage, or a beautifully made film.
In addition to his work as an educational architect, Jay is a dedicated film enthusiast and critic. He served as Executive Director of the SNOB (Somewhat North Of Boston) Film Festival for over a decade.
Learn More About Jay Doherty:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jpdoherty3/
Learn More About Lavallee Brensinger Architects:
Website: lbpa.com/
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/lavallee-brensinger-architects
Facebook: facebook.com/LavalleeBrensingerArchitects
Connect with host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Connect with co-host, Jessica Westerduin:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-westerduin-b75454267/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 249 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In Real Genius, a group of brilliant college students are pushed to their intellectual limits in a high-pressure, high-stakes environment. But beneath the humor and chaos, the movie explores a question educators still wrestle with today: what happens when learning becomes more about achievement than curiosity?
Through characters like Chris Knight and Mitch Taylor, we see two sides of education collide - rigid academic systems versus authentic discovery and joy in learning. Their journey reminds us that genius isn't just about intelligence. It's about passion, purpose, and the freedom to explore without fear of failure.
On this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we sit down with Rob Wroble to uncover what Real Genius teaches us about creativity, intrinsic motivation, and how educators can nurture curiosity rather than compliance in today's classrooms.
Takeaways:
- True learning happens when students are encouraged to explore, question, and create — not just perform.
- The pressure to achieve can stifle innovation; curiosity and autonomy unlock it.
- Environments that celebrate experimentation and play can lead to breakthroughs far beyond the traditional definition of "genius."
- Educators who trust students to take risks build confidence, creativity, and a lifelong love of learning.
About Rob Wroble:
Rob is a principal and chairman of the board at Legat Architects. He is an accomplished project manager with over 30 years of experience in all phases of programming, project management, design and construction. As the studio director for Legat's Oak Brook office, he not only leads many of the firm's significant educational projects, responsible for client communication, planning, design, cost estimating, scheduling, and consultant management, but he also mentors the next generation of architects in his office. His educational portfolio has specialized in the evaluation, planning and renovation of district-wide school facilities to maximize their life cycle and reduce maintenance costs. Rob has led multi-campus, capital improvement projects for numerous school districts throughout the Midwest. Some of Rob's most notable projects include the A.E.R.O. Therapeutic Center and the Laraway School. The A.E.R.O. Therapeutic Center is a special education cooperative composed of eleven member school districts. The facility is designed for students ages 3-22 who have neurodiversities. The process to create the facility was highly collaborative and research-based. This lead it project to receive two very prestigious awards: Illinois Association of School Boards Award of Merit and the Chicago Building Congress Award of Merit: Education. The other notable project that Rob project managed was the Laraway School, where post-occupancy research was able to determine that the building taught kindness. This facility also received two notable awards: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) – Midwest Great Lakes Region John H. Shaw Award and the Brick Industry Association Brick in Architecture Bronze Award.
Learn More About Rob Wroble:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-wroble-83839518/
Learn More About Legat Architects:
Website: https://www.legat.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/legat-architects/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/legatarchitects/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/legatarchitects/
Twitter: https://x.com/Legat_Architect
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/LegatArchitects
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 248 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Sometimes the best insights about learning don’t come from research studies or professional development - they come from the stories we see in pop culture.
In Ferris Bueller’s Day Off, a high schooler skips class for one unforgettable adventure across Chicago. But beneath the comedy, Ferris is doing something educators talk about every day: he’s owning his learning.
His day is filled with exploration, curiosity, and authentic experiences — the kind that research shows actually drive deeper engagement and motivation. He chooses his goals, designs his own path, and orchestrates moments that are memorable and meaningful.
So what does Ferris Bueller have to do with education today? His story reminds us that when students are given agency, when they feel trusted to take risks and explore, learning becomes more than memorizing content - it becomes an experience that sticks.
On this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we take a closer look at what Ferris Bueller can teach us about student voice, ownership, and the environments we create for students to live, explore, and discover who they are.
Takeaways:
- When students have ownership over their learning, they’re more motivated, curious, and invested in outcomes. Just like Ferris designing his own day, students thrive when they can set goals and make choices.
- Real-world experiences, exploration, and hands-on challenges can teach skills that traditional lessons alone can’t. Schools that provide flexible, authentic opportunities create lasting learning.
- While Ferris’ day was spontaneous, there’s a lesson for educators: students flourish when they have a mix of guidance and autonomy, scaffolding their growth without limiting exploration.
About Nathan Strenge:
Nathan Strenge is a Senior Learning Designer at Fielding International and the co-founder of Exploration High School in Minneapolis, a public school for public good. He also serves as co-president of the board at What School Could Be and is a Community Lead at HundrED.
In all his work, he helps advance learner-centered education that prioritizes authentic experiences, deep learning, holistic safety, and trusted relationships. With over a decade as a teacher and now years of global design and leadership work, Nathan brings both heart and strategy to reimagining schools as places where joy, curiosity, and connection are at the center of every learner’s experience.
Learn More About Nathan Strenge:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-strenge-3232b326/
Twitter: https://x.com/nathanstrenge
Learn More About Fielding International:
Website: https://fieldingintl.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/fielding-international/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/fieldingintl/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fieldingintl/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ5Wzn_wGRNs99rDD8EH3lg?
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 247 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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Sometimes the best lessons don’t come from textbooks or classrooms... they come from the stories we see on screen. In Metal Lords, a coming-of-age Netflix film, two high school outsiders form a heavy metal band in hopes of competing in the “Battle of the Bands.” What starts as a quest to play loud music quickly turns into a journey of self-discovery, belonging, and resilience.
So how does a movie about teens rocking out connect to education? At its core, Metal Lords highlights what we talk about so often on the Better Learning Podcast: that schools are not just about content, but about creating spaces where students can express themselves, collaborate, and feel valued. The characters in the film struggle with identity, acceptance, and confidence — the same challenges many of our students face every day. When schools provide flexible environments and opportunities for students to pursue their passions, they’re not just teaching academics, they’re helping students discover their voice.
In our podcast, we often ask school leaders, educators, and designers: What should students feel when they walk into a learning space? Metal Lords gives us one answer: students should feel like they belong. Whether through music, art, or academics, the best school experiences help students connect with something bigger than themselves.
And maybe that’s the real message for all of us in education: sometimes the path to “better learning” starts when we let students turn up the volume on who they really are.
Takeaways:
- Connection and acceptance are critical for motivation. When students feel seen and valued, they’re more likely to take risks and fully engage in learning.
- The power of teamwork in the movie mirrors what happens in classrooms: collaborative projects help students develop creativity, problem-solving, and communication skills.
- Just as the concert venues and rehearsal spaces impact the band’s journey, school design and classroom setup can support or hinder student engagement and creativity—a core idea we explore on the Better Learning Podcast.
About Peter Sharma:
Peter Sharma is a senior sustainability consultant and Carbon Lead for Stantec’s Education sector, where he champions holistic sustainability, embodied carbon reduction, and health and wellbeing in learning environments. With over a decade of experience in the building industry —including numerous K-12 projects—Peter brings a deep understanding of how sustainable design can shape healthier, more inspiring spaces for students and educators alike.
Peter is driven by a deep commitment to leaving behind a healthier, more resilient world for his daughter and future generations. He believes that thoughtful design must serve both people and the planet, and that true sustainability is built through collaboration—creating learning environments that uplift communities, foster connection, and stand the test of time.
A recognized leader in the building industry, he was honored with the Emerging Green Leader award by the Alberta chapter of Canada Green Building Council (CAGBC) in 2018 for his commitment to advocating, educating, and practicing green buildings. Peter joins the podcast to explore how sustainability and wellbeing aren’t just about buildings—they’re about the people inside them, and the bold ideas that can rock the system.
Learn More About Peter Sharma:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/prateekat/
Learn More About Stantec:
Website: https://www.stantec.com/
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/stantec
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StantecInc
Twitter: https://x.com/Stantec
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stantec/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 246 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Released in 2007 and inspired by true events, The Great Debaters tells the story of Wiley College’s debate team in the 1930s, led by Professor Melvin B. Tolson. At a time when segregation and systemic injustice were defining forces, this small but determined team rose to national prominence, even going head-to-head with Harvard University. More than a story about competition, the film highlights the role education plays in empowerment, resilience, and giving students the courage to use their voice.
We dive into the plot and memorable moments, then run through a series of award-style categories that let us talk about teachers, iconic scenes, and even one-liners. And of course, we wrap up with the big question: what real-world lessons can educators, leaders, and communities take from the movie?
Takeaways:
- Professor Tolson shows how a teacher or mentor can push students beyond their perceived limits, instill belief, and prepare them for opportunities they may never have imagined possible.
- Winning debates required the team to challenge, support, and trust each other. Education at its best fosters collaboration, preparing students for the challenges of the real world.
About Jeff Johnson:
Jeff Johnson brings over 30 years of experience in Pre-K–12 and Higher Education design, serving as a trusted voice in shaping impactful learning environments. His expertise spans referendum planning, educational programming, design, project management, and construction administration.
As Director of Educational Planning at PBK Architects, Jeff leads with a deep commitment to understanding each district’s mission and vision. He collaborates closely with stakeholders to develop next-generation learning environments that are innovative, functional, and community-focused. From concept through construction, Jeff ensures that every project aligns with both educational goals and budget realities.
Learn More About PBK Architects:
Website: https://pbk.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/pbk-1/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pbkarchitects/
Twitter: https://x.com/PBKArchitects
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pbkarchitects/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 245 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
What does it take to bring out the best in a group of individuals and transform them into something greater than the sum of their parts?
In this episode of our school-related movie review series, we dive into Miracle (2004), the powerful retelling of the 1980 U.S. Olympic hockey team's unbelievable upset over the Soviet Union. It’s a story of vision, discipline, belief, and building a culture of excellence—all themes that deeply resonate in the world of education today.
Joining us for this conversation is Bryan Benway, someone who brings a unique and dynamic perspective to the table. Bryan grew up near Lake Placid, the very town where this historic miracle on ice took place. He spent years as a hockey broadcaster in the Central Hockey League and now serves as Director of Marketing at Bartlett Cocke General Contractors—one of the most respected education-focused construction firms in Texas.
But before transitioning into construction, Bryan spent several impactful years in public education as the Director of Communications for Boerne ISD, where his leadership earned the district nearly 50 statewide awards. With a career that has spanned storytelling, school communications, sports broadcasting, and educational construction, Bryan is the perfect guest to help us explore the parallels between Miracle and the everyday work of school leaders and educators.
From coaching a team to believe in themselves, to navigating doubt, adversity, and pressure with resilience—Miracle is more than just a sports film. It’s a reflection of what great educational leadership looks like: setting a clear vision, building trust, and pushing students and teams to achieve more than they ever thought possible.
Takeaways:
- Coach Herb Brooks wasn’t looking for the best players—he was looking for the right ones. In schools, it's not always about the top-performing individuals, but about how the team works together to support every student.
- Brooks had a bold and unconventional vision, and he never wavered from it. Strong educational leaders similarly need to set a clear direction, especially when leading change or overcoming obstacles.
- The infamous “Again!” scene shows how accountability and pushing through discomfort can prepare teams for real-world pressure. In classrooms and school systems, structure and consistent expectations help students and staff thrive.
- Brooks told his players, “Great moments are born from great opportunity.” Educators create those moments every day—when they believe in students, when they champion a struggling learner, or when they stand up for what’s right.
- The miracle happened in Lake Placid—a town with deep personal roots for our guest, Bryan Benway. It’s a reminder that the spaces we create (in schools, stadiums, or communities) can hold meaning and inspire greatness when people feel connected to them.
About Bryan Benway:
Bryan Benway brings nearly 20 years of award-winning experience in communications to his role as Director of Marketing at Bartlett Cocke General Contractors. Since joining the company in October 2024, he has led the Marketing Department to earn the SMPS San Antonio People’s Choice Award for the 2024 holiday card design.
Prior to Bartlett Cocke, Bryan served as Director of Communications for Boerne ISD, where his leadership earned the district nearly 50 awards from the Texas School Public Relations Association (TSPRA). His individual accolades include being named a 2020 Hill Country 40 Under 40 honoree by the Economic Development Corporation and receiving the Schreiner University Rising Star Award in 2016.
Bryan’s diverse background also includes serving as District Director for Texas State Representative Kyle Biedermann and as a National Host for Yahoo! Sports Radio, where he hosted a nightly talk show broadcast on more than 800 stations nationwide, including SiriusXM.
Learn More About Bryan Benway:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-benway-50b8b073/
Learn More About Bartlett Cocke General Contractors:
Website: https://www.bartlettcocke.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/bartlett-cocke-general-contractors/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 244 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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What happens when the challenges students face outside the classroom overshadow everything happening within it?
In this episode of our school-focused movie review series, we dive into Rich Hill—the 2014 Sundance Grand Jury Prize-winning documentary that offers an unfiltered look into the lives of three teenage boys growing up in rural Missouri. The film captures the challenges they face in poverty-stricken homes, unstable environments, and a school system struggling to support them.
Joining us to break down the themes and realities of Rich Hill is a special guest - Dr. Julie Williams, a school superintendent at Fayetteville Public Schools who brings invaluable insight into how schools are navigating similar struggles across the country. Together, we explore what the film gets right, what educators can learn from it, and how it pushes us to think differently about the role schools play in students' lives beyond academics.
Takeaways:
- Rich Hill shows how hunger, housing insecurity, and mental health challenges often come before homework. For schools, this underscores the need for trauma-informed practices and wraparound services.
- The boys in the film don’t just struggle in school—they struggle to show up, to stay focused, to feel safe. Educators are reminded that consistency, structure, and relationships are just as essential as curriculum.
- The film highlights how cycles of poverty are perpetuated by factors outside any one school’s control—but it also shows the power of local leadership and community partnerships in starting to break those cycles.
Learn More About Julie Williams:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjulierwilliams/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 243 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
It’s easy to remember Annie for its catchy tunes and iconic optimism. But what if we told you this classic musical also offers a surprising amount of insight into our education system? In our latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we take a fresh look at the 1982 film adaptation of Annie through the eyes of school designers and changemakers.
From the harsh institutional feel of Miss Hannigan’s orphanage to Daddy Warbucks’s transformative environment where Annie’s potential flourishes, the movie mirrors a central truth we see in schools every day: the physical and emotional environment matters. We break down key scenes like the group routines, the classroom-like discipline, and the contrasting settings Annie experiences to explore how learning environments shape behavior, engagement, and opportunity.
Whether you're an educator, school leader, architect, or just a fan of classic cinema, this conversation is a reminder that when we create spaces and systems built on care, flexibility, and belief in kids’ potential, anything, even the impossible, becomes possible.
Takeaways:
- The stark contrast between the cold, institutional orphanage and the warm, opportunity-filled mansion mirrors how learning environments affect student mindset, behavior, and engagement. Just like Annie, students thrive in spaces where they feel valued and safe.
- Miss Hannigan’s rigid, top-down approach reflects outdated models of control in education. In contrast, the trust and autonomy Annie gains in Warbucks’s world show how empowerment fosters confidence, creativity, and curiosity—traits every modern classroom should support.
- Annie's story reminds us that students often just need one adult to believe in them. Teachers, principals, and support staff can play this vital role—especially for students facing adversity.
About Olivia Graf:
As the design visionary and thought leader responsible for conceptualizing innovative learning environments at A4E, Olivia leads the practice in planning, programming and the overall design direction of the firm through an interactive and collaborative process. She believes that outstanding projects begin with a clear concept and should balance aesthetics with curriculum-based innovations to create expressive and functional 21st century educational environments that feature hands-on/ minds-on maker spaces, transdisciplinary settings, and project-based learning.
Her commitment and involvement extend through every phase of the design process. Olivia is also on the Leadership Group of the American Institute of Architects’ Committee on Architecture for Education (AIA-CAE) and is a frequent speaker at education-focused conferences, including the California STEAM Symposium, California School Business Expo (CASBO), EDspaces, NSTA, and AIA-CAE.
Learn More About Olivia Graf:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-graf-7a0a8065/
Learn More About Architecture for Education (A4E):
Website: https://architecture4e.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/architecture-for-education-incorporated/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Architecture4e/
Connect with host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Connect with co-host, Matt Rogers:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-rogers-profile/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 242 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
What if a group of students created their own college because no one else would accept them?
That’s exactly what happens in the 2006 movie Accepted, where a handful of students—rejected by every school they applied to—decide to take matters into their own hands. They invent a fake university, build a website, rent a building, and unknowingly attract hundreds of other students who also felt pushed out by the traditional system. What starts as a lie quickly transforms into something surprisingly real: a student-led, curiosity-driven learning environment where everyone is accepted for who they are.
On the surface, it’s a comedy. But underneath the jokes and wild antics is a powerful question that feels more relevant today than it did nearly 20 years ago: Is college really necessary for every student—or has the system become more about tradition and conformity than about helping kids thrive?
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we explore the message behind Accepted and how it mirrors a growing sentiment in education: that we need to rethink what success looks like, who gets to define it, and how we create learning environments that put students first. Whether you're an educator, parent, school leader, or just someone who’s ever asked “Why do we do it this way?”, this episode is for you.
Takeaways:
- While the movie delivers plenty of laughs, it also challenges the rigid, one-size-fits-all structure of traditional higher education. It asks: What happens to students who don’t fit the mold?
- With rising tuition costs, student debt, and alternative career paths, many students today are questioning the traditional college route. Accepted sparks conversations about whether higher education is serving students—or just serving the system.
- The fictional South Harmon Institute of Technology thrives because students have control over their learning. This aligns directly with modern education movements that prioritize student agency, passion-based learning, and flexible pathways to success.
- At its core, Accepted is about belonging. When students feel safe, supported, and seen, they’re more likely to engage, take risks, and grow. That’s a message that transcends comedy and it’s the foundation of good education.
References from the Episode:
Malcolm Gladwell – Why You Shouldn’t Go to Harvard
Differing Minds: Considering Neurodiversity in Educational Spaces
About Emily Wright:
Emily J. Wright is a registered architect with over 15 years of experience, an undergraduate degree in biochemistry, a background in clinical psychology, and experience teaching English abroad. Although neurotypical herself, her father, brother, husband, and their three children are neurodivergent. She believes buildings and spaces have a profound impact on our functioning and well-being.
Learn More About Emily Wright:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-wright-aia-leed-ap-69a91781/
About Laura Smyles:
Laura Smyles has over 12 years of experience as an Architect and Educational Planner with Grimm + Parker. As the daughter of a 25-year-long career public school teacher, she brings her unique perspective to educational design along with her direct experience of working with several school systems across the DMV. Mom to three under 5, she is especially familiar with the importance of creating an environment that improves emotional regulation - for kids and adults alike.
Learn More About Laura Smyles:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-smyles-aia-well-ap-251b9945/
Learn More About Grimm + Parker Architects:
Website: https://www.grimmandparker.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/grimm---parker-architects/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GandPArchitects
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gp_architects/
X: https://x.com/gparchitects
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 241 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
If you’ve ever rooted for the underdog, Hoosiers probably lives rent-free in your head.
The 1986 classic isn’t just about basketball—it’s about second chances, small-town pride, and what happens when people start believing in themselves and each other. Set in 1950s Indiana, the film follows a high school basketball team no one expects to win… until they do.
In this episode, we explore why Hoosiers continues to resonate in classrooms and communities alike. From Coach Norman Dale’s controversial methods to the redemptive arc of Shooter, the town drunk turned assistant coach, there’s no shortage of teachable moments. At its core, Hoosiers is a story about grit, growth, and the undeniable impact of mentorship.
Whether you’re an educator, a coach, or just someone who still gets chills watching the final game, this episode breaks down what Hoosiers has to say about leadership, trust, and building belief in unlikely places.
Takeaways:
- Coach Dale’s insistence on fundamentals—and his refusal to compromise—highlights the tension between tradition and transformation in education and leadership.
- Shooter’s redemption arc is a powerful reminder of the importance of giving people a chance to rise when others have written them off.
- The tiny gym, the limited roster, the towering opponents—it all reinforces the idea that success isn’t about size, but about heart, unity, and vision.
- "Don’t get caught up in the size of the arena"—a lesson for educators and students alike. Great things can come from the smallest places when expectations are high and support is strong.
About Dr. Deborah Kerr:
Dr. Deborah Kerr is proud to serve as Superintendent of St. Francis Public School District, where she is leading a bold vision to become the best version of SFPSD yet. With a deep commitment to student-centered, equity-focused, and future-driven education, Dr. Kerr is focused on building strong partnerships with staff, families, and the community.
Through her listening and learning tour, she’s discovered a shared passion for diversity, dedication to student success, and an unwavering belief in the potential of every learner. Her mission: to help every student discover their strengths, passions, and purpose—and prepare them for a future they choose.
Learn More About Dr. Deborah Kerr:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-deb-kerr-7b2aaa19/
Learn More About St. Francis Public School District:
Website: https://www.stfrancisschools.org/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/StFrancisSDWI/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stfrancissd_wi/
X: https://x.com/StFrancisSDWI
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 240 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
If you grew up in the '90s, there’s a good chance Matilda made you believe two things: libraries are magical, and adults DEFINITELY don’t always know best...
The 1996 movie, adapted from Roald Dahl’s classic book, gave us a hero who wasn’t loud or flashy - but smart, kind, and quietly powerful. Oh, and she had telekinesis. So yeah, iconic.
In this episode, we dive into why Matilda still hits all these years later. From the hilariously awful Wormwoods to the nightmare-fuel that is Miss Trunchbull, it’s a story that balances dark humor with real heart. But beyond the fantasy, there’s something incredibly real about a kid discovering her voice and the courage to use it.
Whether you’re an educator, a parent, or just someone who remembers rewinding the chocolate cake scene way too many times, this one’s worth revisiting. Join us as we unpack what Matilda can still teach us about agency, learning, and the power of finding just one person who believes in you.
Takeaways:
- Miss Trunchbull’s classroom is fear-based, while Miss Honey’s is nurturing, and that contrast highlights just how much learning environments shape students’ confidence and curiosity.
- Miss Honey shows the life-changing impact a caring, attentive educator can have. A single person believing in a student’s potential can rewrite their story.
- Bruce Bogtrotter vs. the giant chocolate cake is one of the most memorable scenes in Matilda—and not just because it’s grossly hilarious. It’s a perfect metaphor for standing up to power. What starts as a cruel punishment turns into a full-on moment of triumph, as the entire student body silently shifts from fear to cheering him on.
About Charlotte Nienhaus, AIA:
Charlotte Nienhaus is an architect at ISG based in southern MN with 10 years of experience in the industry. She specializes in education design and enjoys helping school districts maximize student environments through architecture. Through the years, Charlotte has completed projects from small interior renovations all the way up to complete K-12 new builds and has found a niche in working with smaller rural school districts to help bring the same opportunities to those students as larger districts are able to offer.
Learn More About Charlotte Nienhaus, AIA:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlotte-nienhaus-aia-848ba8104/
Learn More About ISG:
Website: https://www.isginc.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ISGInc1973
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/isginc1973/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/isginc/
X: https://x.com/isginc1973
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 239 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
When High School Musical 2 premiered on Disney Channel in August 2007, it shattered records with over 17 million viewers tuning in on its first night — making it the most-watched cable movie at the time.
Trading school hallways for summer jobs at a posh country club, the film dives deeper into the personal growth of its characters, especially Troy Bolton. As he’s tempted by opportunities that could shape his future, he starts to drift from his friends and Gabriella, leading to heartfelt moments like “Gotta Go My Own Way” and the now-iconic (and meme-worthy) “Bet On It.” With a vibrant setting, high-energy choreography, and a soundtrack that defined a generation, the movie balances summer fun with themes of loyalty, ambition, and staying true to yourself.
What sets High School Musical 2 apart from the original is its emotional depth and visual glow-up. From Sharpay’s hilariously over-the-top “Fabulous” to the sun-soaked golf course showdowns, the movie feels bigger and bolder while still holding onto the sincerity that made the first film a hit. For many fans, it remains the best in the trilogy - not just for the catchy songs, but for how it captures the confusing transition between teenage fun and adult choices. At its core, it's a feel-good reminder that success means little if you lose yourself along the way.
Takeaways:
- Unlike the first movie, High School Musical 2 explores personal ambition and integrity. Troy’s internal conflict between chasing opportunity and staying loyal to his friends adds emotional depth that resonates with viewers growing up alongside the characters.
- The entire movie takes place in a wealthy country club, with Troy and his friends working as staff while Sharpay enjoys every luxury. This creates a visible tension between socioeconomic classes - particularly when Troy is offered elite opportunities at the expense of his peer group.
- The summer setting shows that learning and personal growth don’t pause when school is out. How we support students in extended learning environments (internships, summer programs, real-world exposure) can have lasting impact.
- Gabriella choosing to walk away from what doesn’t align with her values is a powerful example of student agency. When schools give students meaningful choices in their learning and extracurriculars, they’re more likely to take ownership of their growth.
About Erin Jennings, IIDA, AIA, NCIDQ, NCARB:
Erin Jennings, IIDA, AIA, NCIDQ, NCARB is an Architect, Registered Interior Designer, and Principal for Luminaut, believing that design is just as much about the way something looks as it is about how it functions. Her commitment to that philosophy has yielded the award-winning designs of numerous university, library, and k-12 projects. Her design efforts are motivated by a desire to create conscious impact on the end-user experience. Community environments are the spaces in which Erin’s leadership skills and her interdisciplinary approach have had the most positive influence on the greatest number of people.
She’s highly involved in industry and community organizations both regionally and nationally, and through regular attendance and speaking engagements at thought-leadership conferences. She currently serves on advisory boards, closely monitors building trends, space planning techniques, and continually studies and tests innovative products, all while keeping the protection of the public at the forefront of mind. As the Immediate Past President of the International Board of Directors for CIDQ, she closely collaborates with industry regulatory partners from NCARB, CLARB, and NCEES. She has demonstrated industry advocacy experience as a Past President for the IIDA Indiana Chapter and Past Chair for the AIA National Interior Architecture Knowledge Community.
She’s knowledgeable, meticulous, and advocates relentlessly on behalf of her clients and their end-users. Erin’s continued deep-rooted passion subsists in mentoring young professionals, and most recently, teaching students in the collegiate setting. As an Adjunct Instructor of Interior Design at the College of Architecture & Planning at Ball State University, she strives to bridge the disciplines of architecture and interior design, not to advocate that one can do another, but to advocate the value-add when the two work in harmony with one another.
Erin has committed her life and career to advancing the design industry. From her dual degreed experience at Ball State, to the licensing and certification process for both interior design and architecture, she strives to engage at the highest level. Her main focus: Fostering passion and compassion through elevating the human experience within the built learning environment.
Learn More About Erin Jennings, IIDA, AIA, NCIDQ, NCARB:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erin-jennings-iida-aia-ncidq-ncarb-3a23b111/
Learn More About Luminaut:
Website: https://luminaut.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/luminautarchitecture/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/luminaut/
Connect with Host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 238 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
What if your first day of school wasn’t just nerve-wracking, but something you’d spent your entire life preparing for? That’s the reality for Auggie Pullman, the main character in Wonder (2017), a film that tells the story of a young boy with facial differences entering a mainstream school for the first time.
In this episode, host Kevin Stoller, co-host Carla Cummins, and guest speaker Brian Proctor took a deep dive into the film - not just as a touching family drama, but as a case study in education. From peer relationships to teacher support to the role of school culture, Wonder gives us a lens through which we can evaluate how schools succeed - or fail - in creating inclusive, student-centered environments.
The panel explores the film’s central themes of belonging, identity, and the dynamics of family and friendship. They dive into character development, examining how each person - Auggie, his sister Via, classmates like Jack Will, and school leaders - represents a different experience with acceptance and adversity. The conversation also touches on kindness, leadership, bullying, and the growing influence of social media in school dynamics. Guest Brian Proctor, who transitioned from education leadership to a role in school architecture, shares his perspective on how physical space contributes to emotional safety and inclusion.
Takeaways:
- Family dynamics play a crucial role in shaping children’s emotional and social growth.
- The principal’s leadership style showcases how kindness and character education can take priority over rigid rule enforcement.
- Quotes from the film, like “When given the choice between being right and being kind, choose kind,” leave a lasting emotional impact.
- Social media is a double-edged sword—it can amplify support, but also bullying, shaping students’ daily realities.
About Brian Proctor:
With 25 years of experience in public education, Brian Proctor joined Ratio as an Associate Principal and Education Planner, bringing new perspectives and thought processes to projects as he serves as a bridge between K12 clients and design teams. Brian offers unique and relevant insights based on his first-hand experience within education organizations, including years of leadership as an elementary school principal and as a key contributor to the design and development teams of multiple school renovation and construction projects.
Drawn to Ratio’s values-driven culture and community-focused team, Brian shares a passion for personal growth and positive impact. He connects people through fun and energetic communication that comforts and engages and encourages active participation. His work focuses not only on the social and emotional wellbeing of students and staff, but also on purposeful design that supports all learners. By simplifying situations and spaces – reducing barriers and minimizing anxiety – schools become fun and nurturing spaces where kids feel a sense of autonomy and support, and love to learn.
Brian is a caring and energetic connector who gains his own personal fulfillment by sharing with others and spreading joy – often supported by a closet full of entertaining costumes. Devoting as much time as he can to gathering with family and friends, Brian is dedicated to cultivating partnerships, nurturing relationships, and building better communities – and to taking life one day at a time, making sure to stop along the way to have fun.
“If we’re asking teachers and kids to be innovative in their learning and problem solving, then we need to be innovative too.”
Learn More About Brian Proctor:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianproctor2022/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 237 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we dive into the iconic 1989 film Lean on Me, starring Morgan Freeman as the unforgettable Principal Joe Clark—a tough, uncompromising, and deeply committed educator who is called in to rescue a failing inner-city school on the brink of state takeover.
Set in Eastside High School in Paterson, New Jersey, the film dramatizes the true story of how Clark used controversial, often militant methods to confront violence, low academic performance, and deteriorating morale. But underneath the shouting, chain-wrapped doors, and expelled drug dealers lies a message about courage, leadership, and believing in students when no one else will.
Joining host Kevin Stoller for this breakdown is Dr. Brian K O’Keeffe, who brings an educational leader’s perspective to the real-world challenges reflected in the film. Together, they explore what Lean on Me gets right—and wrong—about education reform, school culture, and the role of school leaders today.
Takeaways:
- Lean on Me reminds us that strong leadership often requires making bold, unpopular decisions. Principal Joe Clark’s extreme methods may have sparked controversy, but his unwavering commitment to student success lit a fire for change.
- Clark’s toughest love came from a deep belief in his students’ potential. This episode highlights how powerful it can be when educators see beyond circumstances and treat students as capable of excellence - sometimes before they believe it themselves.
- Before any academic improvements can happen, a school must rebuild its culture. The film shows how restoring order, setting expectations, and cultivating pride in the school community were the essential first steps. The same applies in today’s schools—culture drives outcomes.
About Dr. Brian K O'Keeffe
From finishes to space planning and furniture selection, Thea collaborates with project team members, consultants, district staff, and stakeholders to develop interior design solutions that enhance their school’s design and align with the district’s educational goals. Thea balances design expertise with end user advocacy to facilitate focus group sessions and synthesize feedback, creating spaces that reflect a learning community’s unique identity. Learn More About Dr. Brian K O'Keeffe:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-o-keeffe-ed-d-sfo-22348719/
Learn More About Community Unit School District 200:
Website: https://www.cusd200.org/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/district200
Twitter: https://x.com/cusd200
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cusd200
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 236 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we’re breaking down the 1986 comedy Back to School, where Rodney Dangerfield plays a loud, lovable millionaire who enrolls in college to reconnect with his son and shakes up the entire campus in the process.
Joined by guest Thea Wayburn from BRIC Architecture, host Kevin Stoller and co-host Carla Cummins take a deeper look at how the film portrays higher education, student life, and the meaning of "fitting in." Part of our ongoing series dissecting school-related movies, we explore what this over-the-top comedy reveals (intentionally or not) about learning environments, relationships, and how schools support, or fail to support, belonging and growth.
Takeaways:
- Rodney Dangerfield’s character may be unconventional, but his experience highlights the importance of creating inclusive environments where students of all backgrounds feel like they belong - something schools and universities are still working to get right today.
- While Back to School leans into comedy, it also touches on deeper issues like academic elitism, outdated teaching methods, and the value of real-world experience, sparking a conversation about what learning should look like in modern education.
- The movie challenges the idea that there’s only one “right” way to succeed in education. We discuss how schools can better support alternative learners and value life experience alongside academic achievement.
About Thea Wayburn
From finishes to space planning and furniture selection, Thea collaborates with project team members, consultants, district staff, and stakeholders to develop interior design solutions that enhance their school’s design and align with the district’s educational goals. Thea balances design expertise with end user advocacy to facilitate focus group sessions and synthesize feedback, creating spaces that reflect a learning community’s unique identity. Learn More About Thea Wayburn:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thea-wayburn-9b3a16256/
Learn More About Pfluger Architects:
Website: https://www.bric-arch.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bric.arch
Twitter: https://x.com/bric_arch
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bric_arch/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 235 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we dive deep (pun intended) into Finding Nemo - the animated adventure that’s equal parts heartwarming, hilarious, and insightful. As part of our series on school-related films, we explore what this Pixar classic can tell us about the student experience, the importance of trust and independence, and how schools can support every kind of learner on their journey.
Joining host Kevin Stoller is co-host Carla Cummins and special guest Brenda Swirczynski from Pfluger Architects, bringing both educational and design perspectives to the table. Together, they unpack the film’s themes of overprotection, resilience, and growth — and how those same challenges show up in real-world school environments.
From Marlin’s struggle to let go, to Nemo’s need to prove himself, the conversation begins to ask: What can educators, school leaders, and architects learn from this undersea tale? How can schools create environments where students feel safe to explore, fail, and thrive?
Takeaways:
- Marlin’s instinct to shield Nemo from danger mirrors how schools and parents can sometimes overcorrect in the name of safety.
- Just as Nemo’s “lucky fin” made him different — but not less capable — the conversation highlights the importance of designing spaces and systems that accommodate a wide range of learners, abilities, and personalities.
- From Dory’s unorthodox support to the Tank Gang’s teamwork, the film underscores the power of collaboration — a theme echoed in the episode’s discussion around how architects, educators, and designers must work together to build student-centered spaces.
About Brenda Swirczynski
Brenda is a lifelong educator with experience in a variety of educational applications. As a classroom teacher, outdoor educator, and university instructor, she has had the privilege to collaborate with varied audiences on multi-disciplinary projects. Brenda possesses expertise in designing curricula, inquiry-based learning, and educational experiences for audiences with diverse backgrounds. Brenda received her Bachelor’s degree in Education and Master’s in Environmental Science from the University of North Texas. She is a graduate of Cohort 9 of the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) Advanced Academy, earning her Learning Environment Planner (ALEP) accreditation. She continues her design work with individuals who are equally passionate about supporting educators and their students as the Educational Facilities Planner at Pfluger Architects. Finding Nemo is one of her top 10 movies favs of all time! Learn More About Brenda Swirczynski: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brenda-swirczynski/
Learn More About Pfluger Architects:
LinkedIn: https://pflugerarchitects.com/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 234 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, we’re diving into the wildly popular teen comedy Superbad — one of the most iconic (and ridiculous) high school movies out there. As part of our series on school-related films, we’re looking at what Superbad got right about the student experience, what it totally blew out of proportion, and why it still hits home for so many people.
Superbad follows two inseparable best friends, Seth and Evan, as they navigate their final days of high school — chasing parties, popularity, and one last shot at leaving their mark before graduation. Beneath all the chaos and crude humor is a surprisingly real look at teenage friendship, insecurity, and the awkward (and often hilarious) leap into adulthood — a sneak peek at one of the hot takes from our episode!
We unpack the awkwardness, social dynamics, and over-the-top moments — and ask what it all says about how pop culture portrays school life. It's part movie breakdown, part education lens, and all about what we can learn (and laugh at) when Hollywood takes on high school. What does it say about student relationships, social dynamics, and the overall high school experience? How do movies like this shape the way we think about education — and how students think about themselves? We’re not taking it too seriously (it is Superbad, after all), but we are looking at what educators and school leaders can learn from how pop culture reflects — and distorts — the real student experience.
Takeaways:
- Superbad, like many teen comedies, exaggerates for laughs, but it also influences how students, parents, and even educators view the high school experience.
- Behind the chaos and crude humor, Superbad highlights a very real truth: students crave meaningful friendships and validation during a time of major life transitions.
- While Superbad doesn’t show much of the classroom environment, it reminds us how much of student life happens in between classes — in the social spaces. It's a good reminder that learning environments need to be designed for connection, mobility, and authenticity.
- Laughing at the awkwardness and absurdity of adolescence helps us connect to students’ experiences. Movies like Superbad give us an opportunity to talk about real issues — like peer pressure, insecurity, and self-discovery — in a more approachable way.
About Nick Duffy
Nick has spent nearly 20 years in education with over a decade as a school principal, focused on serving and leading students, staff, and systems in the Eastern Iowa area. He has experience facilitating meetings large and small with effective communication to prioritize consensus building, conflict resolution, and problem solving. Nick’s background includes collaborating with leadership teams to set priorities and focus areas that works toward the organizational goals and action plans, along with adjusting resources as needed. He values people-based and culture-impact principles in his decisions, and brings this perspective to the every table to foster a positive environment for all stakeholders. Learn More About Nick Duffy: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/npduffy/
About Ken Hagen, AIA, ALEP
As a senior project architect and K-12 Region Leader at OPN Architects, a Midwest design firm with five studios, Ken has spent most of his 23 years of practice designing student-centric spaces. His recent experience includes multiple new high schools, master planning and implementation for several districts, a new performing arts center for a school district, and a re- imagined visitor experience at a performance venue for a university. He also led the transformation of a university’s center for advanced engineering. In planning and designing spaces for both students and educators – from pre-K to postgraduate – Ken has an approach that is rooted in integrating pedagogy, design, and function. He finds inspiration in the intersection of materials and experiences. Color, texture, and lighting create mood and are a muse for both the designer and user. Learn More About Ken Hagen, AIA, ALEP:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ken-hagen-aia-alep-50a047a/
Learn More About OPN Architects:
LinkedIn: https://opnarchitects.com/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Episode 233 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller is joined by co-host Carla Cummins and guest speaker Brian Parker, AIA, ALEP—Vice President of K-12 at MHTN Architects—for a quirky and insightful conversation centered around the 2004 classic Napoleon Dynamite. As one of only two Accredited Learning Environment Planners in Utah, Brian brings a unique design perspective rooted in empathy, student agency, and unlocking the potential within every learner.
Napoleon Dynamite follows the offbeat story of an awkward high schooler navigating friendship, identity, and self-expression in rural Idaho. Through the lens of this oddball comedy, Kevin, Carla, and Brian explore deeper themes of inclusion, overlooked potential, and the importance of designing learning spaces that honor the individuality of each student. They reflect on how schools can be more than institutions—they can be launchpads for confidence, creativity, and quiet greatness, especially for those who don’t always fit the traditional mold.
Takeaways:
- Just like the characters in Napoleon Dynamite, students don’t all fit into a standard mold—and that’s something to celebrate. School environments should support individuality and provide room for students to be unapologetically themselves.
- When students feel seen, heard, and valued—whether in the classroom or the cafeteria—they’re more likely to engage and thrive. Designing for belonging is just as important as designing for function.
- Like Napoleon, many students have gifts that aren't always loud or obvious. Educators and designers should look for ways to highlight and support those quiet strengths.
- A little levity and creativity go a long way in helping students (and educators) feel connected and human. Schools don’t have to be stiff to be successful.
About Brian Parker, AIA, ALEP
Brian has dedicated his career to designing spaces that support the engagement of students and teachers in the learning process. He is one of roughly 100 Accredited Learning Environment Planners in the United States – and one of two in the State of Utah. His design talent, expertise, and leadership style inspires innovative solutions as he leads the MHTN K-12 team in developing educational facilities. Learn More About Brian Parker, AIA, ALEP:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianparkerarchitect/
Learn More About Co-Host, Carla Cummins
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 232 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller is joined by co-host Matt Rogers and guest speaker Mason Pashia, Partner (Storytelling) at Getting Smart Collective, for an energetic and thought-provoking conversation centered around the 2003 cult classic School of Rock. Known for his work amplifying the voices of educators and change-makers through storytelling, Mason brings a fresh and imaginative lens to how we think about student engagement, creative expression, and nontraditional learning paths.
School of Rock follows the story of Dewey Finn, a struggling musician who finds unexpected purpose—and unleashes unexpected potential—when he poses as a substitute teacher and transforms a class of rule-following prep school kids into a rock band. Together, Matt and Mason explore the film’s deeper themes of passion, authenticity, and belonging in education. They reflect on how schools can create space for students to discover their identities, pursue what excites them, and challenge conventional measures of success—all while staying grounded in a mission to serve and empower every learner.
Takeaways:
- School of Rock highlights how stepping outside traditional curriculum and teaching methods can unlock student potential and engagement in surprising ways.
- Dewey Finn's enthusiasm for music becomes the bridge that allows students to connect with their interests—and with each other. Educators can harness this same power by leading with passion.
- The film underscores the importance of allowing students to have a say in their learning journey. When students are given autonomy, they rise to the occasion and take ownership of their growth.
- Matt and Mason explore how School of Rock challenges rigid definitions of success and encourages schools to recognize diverse forms of excellence—not just academic achievement.
About Mason Pashia:
Mason Pashia is a Partner (Storytelling) at Getting Smart Collective. Through publications, blogs, podcasts, town halls, newsletters, and more, he helps drive the perspective and focus of GettingSmart.com. He advocates for data and collective imagination and uses this combination to launch campaigns that amplify voices, organizations, and missions. With over a decade in the storytelling sector (including brand strategy, marketing and communications, and the arts), Mason is always striving to inspire as well as inform.
Learn More About Mason Pashia:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/masonpashia/
Mason's Substack: Featuring Weekly Original Music and Poetry
Learn More About The Getting Smart Podcast:
Website: https://www.gettingsmart.com/podcast/
Catching Up: A New Podcast from Getting Smart
The Third Horizon of Learning
Flipping the Script: Hollywood’s Role in Changing Depictions of Learning Environments
About Matt Rogers:
Matt Rogers is a dynamic professional deeply committed to advancing the education industry through innovative strategies and impactful initiatives.
As the Communications Manager at Kay-Twelve, he leads transformative efforts in education by revolutionizing physical learning environments and improving education through the use of media. His dedication has earned him recognition as Kay-Twelve’s Core Values Employee of the Year in both 2021 and 2022, and also positioned him as one of the inaugural winners of the NexGen Awards in 2023.
Matt joined the Kay-Twelve team in 2019 as an intern while attending Fisher College of Business at The Ohio State University. Matt’s multifaceted approach extends beyond his role at Kay-Twelve; he serves as the lead Producer for the Better Learning Podcast where they facilitate enlightening discussions that break down the silos of physical space, leadership, and culture in education.
Learn More About Matt Rogers
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-rogers-profile/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 231 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
What is a Green School?
When people hear “Green School,” they often picture solar panels, school gardens, or maybe a greenhouse out back. While those are pieces of the puzzle, the full picture is much more powerful.
A Green School integrates sustainability into every aspect of the learning experience: from the design of its physical space to its curriculum, culture, and community impact. It’s a school that not only teaches sustainability but lives it, showing students, educators, and families what a healthier, more equitable future can look like—and empowering them to lead the way.
In our latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we dive into why Green Schools matter now more than ever. With nearly 100,000 public schools across the U.S., the stakes are high. School facilities don’t just house students—they influence how well they learn, how healthy they are, and how connected their communities feel.
We explore the current challenges in school infrastructure, including the startling reality that many buildings still lack basics like proper ventilation or air conditioning. These gaps disproportionately affect underserved communities and create barriers to learning and well-being.
A Green School aims to change that. By reducing environmental impact, improving health and performance, and delivering sustainability education, these schools set the standard for how we treat each other and the planet. They become catalysts for change—transforming not just students, but entire communities.
Takeaways:
- Green Schools go beyond solar panels and gardens. They integrate sustainability into curriculum, culture, and community.
- Millions of students attend outdated schools every day — with nearly 100,000 public schools across the U.S. and over 7.5 billion square feet in need of modernization, the learning environment is failing to keep pace with student needs.
- School leaders play a critical role in long-term sustainability. Partnering with experts who prioritize healthy, future-ready design ensures that new school buildings serve students and communities for decades to come, not just on day one.
- Schools can take advantage of available tax credits and funding by prioritizing sustainable building practices.
About The Guest Panelists:
Jana Silsby, DLR Group
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jana-silsby-450b7a13/
Phoebe Beierle, U.S. Green Building Council:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phoebebeierle/
Sara Ross, UnDauntedK12:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarajross/
Connect with episode host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
The Energy, Carbon, and Sustainability in K-12 Education Symposium
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Where: Washington DC
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Episode 230 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Carla Cummins is joined by co-host Victoria Morlan as well as architect and education advocate Don Baus for a powerful conversation around the 1988 film Stand and Deliver. With decades of combined experience in designing and supporting student-centered environments, the two explore how the true story of Jaime Escalante continues to challenge and inspire today’s educators, designers, and school leaders.
Set in a struggling East L.A. high school, Stand and Deliver follows math teacher Jaime Escalante as he empowers his students to defy expectations and succeed in AP Calculus—despite systemic barriers and cultural doubt. Victoria and Don dig into the film’s themes of belief, rigor, and resilience, connecting them to their own work helping schools design spaces where students feel seen, capable, and empowered to succeed.
Don, Charleston Office President for architecture firm Little and a longtime champion of inspiring learning environments, brings a unique design perspective to the discussion. Together, he and Victoria reflect on what it truly means to curate spaces and systems that allow every student to rise—and the ongoing responsibility educators and designers have to ensure equity, access, and inspiration are built into every learning experience.
Takeaways:
- Jaime Escalante's unwavering belief in his students’ potential shows how a single educator's confidence can transform lives and outcomes.
- When we set the bar high and provide support, students often exceed what others believed possible.
- Recognizing and valuing diverse backgrounds helps educators design learning experiences that truly resonate.
- Thoughtful school design - both physical and emotional - can inspire students and help them thrive.
About Don Baus:
As past president of AIA Charleston, Don is deeply rooted in South Carolina and champions the delivery of Little’s promise to elevate client performance while advancing the firm’s reputation in thought leadership, innovation and breakthrough ideas throughout the state.
Don has more than 26 years of industry experience on regional projects including K-12 education, higher education, civic, healthcare and mixed-use. He has successfully led teams through all facets of project development from conceptual design through construction, always with a focus on client success and design excellence.
Learn More About Don Baus, AIA, LEED AP:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/don-baus-22b445a/
Learn More About Little Diversified Architectural Consulting:
Website: https://www.littleonline.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/little-diversified-architectural-consulting/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/littleonline_
About Victoria Brooks Morlan, CPSI, ECLPS:
Victoria Brooks Morlan came to Kay-Twelve with 25 years of experience in the education space. She has worked with schools and architects throughout the Carolinas, Virginia and Georgia, helping to develop innovative learning environments for students of all ages.
A teacher by education, Victoria has a unique ability for connecting with her clients while seeking to provide them with a holistic solution to foster innovative, collaborative and pedagogy-driven learning environments.
Learn More About Victoria Brooks Morlan, CPSI, ECLPS:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoria-morlan-cpsi-eclps-54787456/
Learn More About Kay-Twelve:
Website: https://kay-twelve.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kay-twelve-com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kay_twelve/
Connect with episode host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Episode 229 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, Carla Cummins is joined by her daughter Jennifer Cummins and special guests Candace Seda and Stephanie Seda for a fun and thought-provoking dive into Disney’s 2006 cultural phenomenon High School Musical. With a multigenerational panel of educators, designers, and education advocates, the group explores how the film’s catchy tunes, teen drama, and feel-good message intersect with real-life high school experiences.
Set at the fictional East High School, High School Musical follows Troy Bolton and Gabriella Montez as they challenge stereotypes, break out of their expected roles, and redefine what it means to belong. The conversation goes beyond choreography to unpack deeper themes of identity, student voice, peer pressure, and the often rigid boxes students are placed in.
Carla, Jenny, Candace, and Stephanie reflect on how the film’s message of “breaking free” still resonates with students today. They discuss the importance of cultivating environments where young people feel seen, safe, and empowered to pursue their full potential—whether on the court, in the lab, or on stage. Together, they celebrate the magic of student-centered learning while confronting the real challenges schools face in living that out.
Takeaways:
- Students are more than stereotypes. Just like Troy and Gabriella, students thrive when given the freedom to explore interests outside of their “assigned” labels. Schools should nurture the whole child—not just the athlete, the scholar, or the artist.
- When students try something outside of the norm, they need allies—peers, teachers, and parents—who encourage them to break free from expectations and find their voice.
- Culture eats curriculum for breakfast. A strong, inclusive school culture is the foundation for student growth. The environment at East High showed how cliques and unwritten rules can restrict potential.
- Candace reflected on how High School Musical—with its vibrant sets, energetic common spaces, and distinct zones for different student identities—influences how designers think about school environments today. The film reminds us that the physical space of a school tells a story. When designing schools, it’s not just about functionality; it’s about creating places where students feel inspired, seen, and connected.
About Candace Seda, NOMA, AIA, NCARB:
Candace Seda is an Atlanta-born architect with almost a decade of professional experience in the K-12, higher education, civic, and medical office sectors. She earned her B.S. Arch and M. Arch from the Georgia Institute of Technology, specializing in graphic design and sustainability. As the daughter of an educator, she channels her passion for education and community to create inspiring learning environments, positively impacting the educational experience for future generations. Candace leverages her graphic design expertise to craft visually compelling and cohesive spaces through experiential graphics.
Known for leading conversations on inclusion and equity, Candace aims to make quality design accessible to those historically excluded or overlooked, benefiting both clients and industry professionals. She accomplishes this through her work at Craig Gaulden Davis Architecture, organizations like VANOMA and Diversity Architecture, as well as her design firm Candace Seda Design.
About Stephanie Seda:
Stephanie Seda, a 26-year-old 5th-grade teacher based in Athens, GA, is deeply committed to empowering Black and Brown students to become confident leaders. With a strong passion for Social Studies education, Stephanie strives to make history come alive for her students, encouraging them to engage with the world around them.
Outside the classroom, Stephanie is an avid reader and TV enthusiast, always ready for a thoughtful conversation. When she's not teaching or discussing the latest book or show, you can find her singing or roller skating, embracing her creative side and enjoying life to the fullest.
Learn More About Craig Gaulden Davis | PBK
Website: https://cgdarch.com/
Learn More About Candace Seda, NOMA, AIA, NCARB:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/candaceseda/
Learn More About Jennifer Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-cummins-/
Connect with host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Episode 228 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Kevin Stoller is joined by longtime educator and podcast host Steve Miletto to unpack the 1984 film Teachers, a gritty dramedy that offers an unflinching critique of the American public school system. Directed by Arthur Hiller and starring Nick Nolte, Teachers dives headfirst into the dysfunction, bureaucracy, and burnout often hidden behind school walls.
Set in a troubled urban high school, the story centers on idealistic teacher Alex Jurel, who’s caught between his desire to make a difference and a system that seems determined to maintain the status quo. With subplots involving a mentally ill teacher who was never removed, a student lawsuit, and apathetic staff, the movie blurs the line between satire and sobering reality.
Kevin and Steve discuss how many of the themes from Teachers—such as disengaged leadership, systemic failure, and student disillusionment—still resonate in today’s schools. Their conversation explores what’s changed (and what hasn’t) in the decades since the film’s release, the importance of strong school culture, and how educators can lead with purpose in the face of institutional challenges. It’s a raw and honest discussion about the role of teachers, the need for systemic change, and the heart it takes to truly connect with students.
Takeaways:
- Teachers (1984) offers a satirical yet sobering critique of the American public school system, many of which still resonate today.
- The character of Alex Jurel represents the struggle of passionate educators trying to make a difference within a broken system.
- The episode explores how authentic relationships and emotional intelligence are still the most powerful tools educators have.
- The discussion underscores the mental health toll on both students and teachers in rigid, outdated school environments.
- Despite the challenges, the film and the conversation both reinforce why committed, caring educators matter more than ever.
About Steve Miletto:
Steven Miletto, EdD has been an educator in Georgia(US) for 38 years. He has served public school families as a history teacher, assistant principal, high school principal, and RESA (Regional Education Service Agency) Executive Director in the Heart of Georgia RESA (8 years) and now with North Georgia RESA (3years). In 2009, he was the Georgia Principal of the Year and a finalist for NASSP/MetLife National Principal of the Year in 2010. In 2007 he received the Atlanta Braves/AT&T Educator of the Year Award. His focus in education is to help kids achieve their dreams.
Learn More About Steve's Podcast, Teaching Learning Leading K12
Website: https://www.stevenmiletto.com/episodes/
Learn More About Steve Miletto
Website: https://www.stevenmiletto.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenmiletto/
Twitter: https://x.com/SRMiletto
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKFLbruqt3wFKTMQg56gDtg
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 227 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Mean Girls, directed by Mark Waters and written by Tina Fey, is a cult classic teen comedy based on Rosalind Wiseman’s book Queen Bees and Wannabes. The film humorously yet accurately portrays the harsh realities of high school social dynamics, focusing on cliques, peer pressure, and the impact of popularity on self-identity.
The story follows Cady Heron, a homeschooled girl navigating the cutthroat social hierarchy of public high school life after moving from Africa. As she infiltrates "The Plastics," the school’s most popular clique, Cady faces a moral dilemma that tests her values, self-image, and relationships. Though often comedic, the movie sheds light on serious issues like bullying, conformity, and the challenges of adolescence.
In this episode, Kevin Stoller, Nancy Shapiro Rapport, and Steven Shapiro discuss the movie through the lens of parenting and education. They explore the challenges faced by kids and parents in today's society, particularly focusing on the mental health crisis and the breakdown of family structures. The conversation delves into character analyses, the impact of school environments, and the importance of emotional health in raising children.
Takeaways:
- Consistent, intentional conversations about values and behavior are essential for raising resilient, emotionally healthy children. Small, deliberate actions can lead to significant, long-term results.
- A strong family culture, built on open communication and shared values, can help children navigate social pressures and define their identity. Parents need to engage in ongoing discussions about kindness, respect, and self-worth.
- Technology has fundamentally changed how teens communicate and form relationships. Setting boundaries around device use and fostering in-person connections can help counteract the isolating effects of screen time.
- Adolescence is a time of self-discovery, and social interactions can be intense and confusing. Understanding the pressures teens face helps parents provide better support.
- Schools can support parents by reinforcing positive behaviors and values, while communities can provide a support network for parents navigating the challenges of raising children.
- Comedy can be an effective way to connect with teens, understand their world, and initiate meaningful conversations. Movies like Mean Girls use humor to highlight real issues in adolescence.
About Steven Shapiro:
Steven Shapiro is a veteran school reimaginer, with over 30 years of K-12 classroom teaching experience, 15 concurrent years as a high school humanities program director, and four years as a district leader of experiential learning. Steven is the host of the acclaimed podcast Experience Matters. He delivers keynote presentations on topics including supporting parents in the digital age, addressing the youth mental health crisis, and designing authentic learning experiences. Steven and his wife Susan are the proud parents of three adult children.
About Nancy Shapiro Rapport:
Nancy spent the majority of her 34-year public-education career as a school counselor, supporting students and parents in navigating the challenging “middle years.” Her leadership roles in professional development and crisis management showcased her ability to identify needs, empathize with various stakeholders, and deliver results.
As a certified Hudson Institute coach, Nancy has extensive training in coaching and human development. She has taught courses on learner mindset and question thinking, helping adults pursue a life of curiosity, inquiry, and possibility. Nancy brings a wealth of experience in both child and adult learning to her role as co-founder of Our Family Culture. Most importantly, she is the proud parent of two adult children, Emily and Jacob.
Learn More About Our Family Culture:
Website: https://ourfamilyculture.org/
Connect with Steven Shapiro:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-shapiro-experience-matters/
Connect with Nancy Shapiro Rapport:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancysrapport/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 226 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Few movies capture the essence of leadership, teamwork, and adaptability quite like Top Gun.
While it’s a high-octane film about elite fighter pilots pushing their limits, the lessons it offers extend far beyond the cockpit—straight into the world of education. Just like Maverick and his fellow aviators must embrace continuous learning, mentorship, and resilience, educators and school leaders face the challenge of preparing students for an ever-evolving future.
In this review, we’ll break down the powerful parallels between Top Gun and education, exploring what it means to foster a high-performance learning environment where every student can take flight.
Takeaways:
- Just like Top Gun pilots constantly train and refine their skills, educators must embrace ongoing professional development to adapt to new teaching methods, technologies, and student needs.
- Maverick learns from his instructors and teammates, just as students benefit from strong teacher-student relationships. Great educators inspire, challenge, and support students to reach their full potential.
- While Top Gun pilots start as fierce competitors, they quickly realize success depends on working together. In education, collaboration among teachers, administrators, and students creates the best learning environments.
About Stacey Waxtan:
Stacey tells her client’s story with every selection, building a user experience with intention, form, and delight. A New York City native with a touch of Minnesota nice, she leads the HUNT Interiors Team with style and grace, developing concepts with client direction and overarching themes. Stacey orchestrates collaboration across disciplines, champions new technologies, and supports a true team environment that celebrates the best ideas.
As inspiration is paramount to design, Stacey has traveled to conferences and art exhibits in Paris, Milan, Tel Aviv, Tokyo, and across the United States. Mentoring high school and college students, Stacey strives to inspire the next generation of designers and architects to lead with a design story, and always from the perspective of the end user.
Stacey is passionate about community building and art in public spaces. She's a member of AIA, serves as Board Member on the Community Design Center of Rochester, is a repeat team member [and runway model] in the AIA Rochester Product Runway Fashion Show, and practices ballet whenever possible.
FF&E Procurement Revisionism Series
- Episode 1: Seeing Furniture as an Active Participant in the Learning Environment
- Episode 2: How to Select the Right Solution and Ensure Buy-In
- Episode 3: Furniture Procurement Doesn't Have to Be Hard or Scary
What is The End of Average Concept?
Learn More About HUNT EAS:
Website: https://www.hunt-eas.com/
Connect with Stacey Waxtan:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stacey-veolette-waxtan-87503a6/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 225 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this special episode, we take a nostalgic look back at the early recordings that sparked our popular movie review format. This episode is a fun compilation of guests sharing their favorite school-related movies and TV shows, along with their thoughts on what’s realistic — and what’s not — about those stories.
Our guests represent voices from across the country, including Pennsylvania, Utah, Texas, Missouri, Montana, Arizona, Wisconsin, California, Florida, Indiana, Iowa, Illinois, North Carolina, Oregon, Kentucky, New York, Connecticut, Minnesota, and Rhode Island. Each guest answered two key questions:
- What is your favorite school-related TV show or movie?
- What is unrealistic about that movie or TV show?
The answers ranged from heartwarming classics to laugh-out-loud comedies and inspiring dramas. Here’s a breakdown of the most mentioned titles:
- School of Rock - 6 mentions
- Abbott Elementary - 4 mentions
- Remember the Titans - 2 mentions
- Grease - 2 mentions
- The Sound of Music - 1 mention
- Dead Poets Society - 1 mention
- Home Alone - 1 mention
- Annie - 1 mention
- Welcome Back, Kotter - 1 mention
- Dangerous Minds - 1 mention
- Summer School - 1 mention
- Top Gun - 1 mention
- Stand and Deliver - 1 mention
- To Sir, With Love - 1 mention
- Ferris Bueller's Day Off - 1 mention
- Fast Times at Ridgemont High - 1 mention
- Most Likely to Succeed - 1 mention
- Gilmore Girls - 1 mention
- Glee - 1 mention
- The Long Game - 1 mention
- A Christmas Story - 1 mention
- Billy Madison - 1 mention
- The OC - 1 mention
- The Breakfast Club - 1 mention
- I Love Lucy - 1 mention
- Friday Night Lights - 1 mention
- Yesterday - 1 mention
- Old School - 1 mention
- Boston Public - 1 mention
- Freedom Writers - 1 mention
- Ted Lasso - 1 mention
- Back to School - 1 mention
Whether you're a fan of inspiring educators, unforgettable student antics, or heartwarming school stories, this episode is packed with entertaining insights from guests who know education best. Tune in to hear what your peers are watching and maybe add a few new titles to your must-watch list!
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 224 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
What Do The Incredibles and Educators Have in Common?
In our latest Better Learning Podcast episode, we dive into The Incredibles (2004) and uncover powerful insights for educators. Just like Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl face lawsuits that restrict their powers, teachers often feel held back by red tape and policies that limit their ability to innovate in the classroom.
We explore how educators can break free from these constraints, unlocking their creativity, adaptability, and empathy to make a bigger impact. Plus, we break down fun film moments that mirror real-life school experiences.
Takeaways:
- Everyone wants to be special and normal at the same time
- Teachers aren't the only adults that can have an impact
- Everyone has their own superpowers
- Different is okay
About Mercedes Johnson:
In 1995, Mercedes Ramirez Johnson narrowly survived a commercial airplane crash that killed 160 people, including her parents. She presents her proprietary Second Chance Living concept, an innovative mindset and approach with a proven track record, to organizations such as General Electric, ExxonMobil, Microsoft, NASA, Chevron, and the various branches of the US Armed Forces.
Before becoming a speaker, Mercedes spent nearly a decade in high-level sales in the pharmaceutical and medical software industries. A record-breaking, multimillion dollar producer, she became the youngest female and sole Latino account executive at Cerner Corporation. She is an active leader in philanthropic organizations advocating for special needs children and children’s health initiatives, notably for Make-A-Wish and The National MPS Society. Mercedes and her story have been the subject of considerable national and international media coverage.
About Katie Riley:
Katie Riley’s extensive career reflects a strong dedication to transforming education, particularly for students with diverse learning needs. With 25 years of experience in various educational settings, including public and private schools, and her work in parish schools, she has built a reputation as an educator passionate about making a difference for all students.
Her journey began in the challenging but rewarding environments of Chicago Public Schools and Dallas Independent School Districts, where she was determined to improve educational outcomes for students with different learning styles. As her career progressed, her expertise expanded, and she took on leadership roles as an educational consultant and an administrator of high-impact schools in Dallas.
Katie continues her deep commitment to innovation in education and a drive to advocate for students who may otherwise be overlooked. She is currently an educational consultant who works with schools and families to help ensure all students find an environment where they can be successful.
Connect with Mercedes Ramirez Johnson:
Website: https://www.mercedesramirezjohnson.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mercedes-ramirez-johnson-5536234/
X: https://x.com/MRamirezJohnson
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 223 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
What happens when competition goes way too far?
In this episode, we dive into Battle Royale—the cult classic that makes The Hunger Games look like a friendly school fundraiser—to uncover any connections to education. Joined by TikTok movie reviewers BrandonToksMovies and Ben Treadway, we break down the film’s themes of competition, authority, and survival—and how they (thankfully, in a less deadly way) mirror the struggles students face in real life.
Can we actually learn anything from this extreme scenario to improve schools? How does this dystopian scenario reflect the pressures students face today? Tune in as we try reading between the lines and figure out what Battle Royale can teach us.
Takeaways:
- The teacher on the very first day sets the tone for how the class is going to be run
- Creating connection creates care
- Don't pit students against each other, foster connection and growth together
- As a teenager, hormones run the show
Brandon and Ben are the hosts of The Cinemast Podcast, a film podcast where they discuss both new and favorite films from two different perspectives, Ben is the everyman and Brandon is the cinephile. In addition to the podcast, Brandon creates movie-related content on TikTok and Instagram under the username @brandontoksmovies. They both live in Arizona with their families. Check Out The Cinemast Podcast: Website: https://brandontoksmovies.com/
Connect with BrandonToksMovies:
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@brandontoksmovies
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brandontoksmovies/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BrandonToksMovies
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 222 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
It’s 1987. The surf’s up, the sun’s out, and high school teacher Freddy Shoop is about to have the summer of his life… until he’s roped into teaching remedial English to a group of students who would rather be anywhere else.
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, Kevin, Eric, and Mark crack open Summer School, the cult classic that blends outrageous 80s comedy with a surprisingly insightful take on teaching, student motivation, and the eternal struggle between fun and responsibility.
We break down what makes Mark Harmon’s Mr. Shoop one of the most unexpectedly relatable teachers in movie history—does his unconventional, rule-breaking approach make him a terrible educator, or the kind of mentor students actually need? We also dive into the misfit classroom of 80s archetypes, from the horror-obsessed duo of Chainsaw and Dave to the overachieving student with test anxiety, and discuss how these characters still reflect real-world education challenges today.
Takeaways:
- Connecting with students has a huge impact
- Sometimes you need respect from students before they like you
- Have fun and be yourself
- Take the five seconds to say something individualized to a student
Connect with Eric Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esstoller/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 221 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Can one teacher change the course of a student’s life? Can curiosity survive in a system that prioritizes conformity?
October Sky is more than just a heartwarming story about a boy and his rockets—it’s a powerful look at the impact of education, ambition, and the struggle between dreams and expectations. But how accurately does it reflect today’s schools?
Are students still discouraged from pursuing unconventional paths? Do educators still have the power to ignite change? In this review, we’ll break down what October Sky gets right (and where it misses the mark) when it comes to the modern classroom.
Takeaways:
- Curiosity and inquiry are still not be nurtured in schools
- Project based learning allows students to be self directed and follow their passions
- Dreaming doesn't get you where you want to be- action is required
- Just don't quit! - Advice from Michael
- Having a network helps when you get stuck
About Michael Duncan:
An award-winning superintendent and longtime champion of education transformation, Dr. Mike Duncan is the President and CEO of Battelle for Kids.
Mike was one of the longest-serving superintendents in the state of Georgia, leading Pike County Schools for 18 years from 2005 until his retirement in 2023. He worked diligently to reimagine educational opportunities and implement enduring transformation for all students in Pike County. He spearheaded the creation of their Portrait of a Graduate and worked to achieve the district’s mission of developing creative problem solvers.
Mike was honored as the Georgia Superintendent of the Year in 2021. Under Mike’s leadership, Pike County Schools was actively engaged in EdLeader21, the national network of Battelle for Kids, for more than a decade during his superintendency. Mike is also the co-founder and co-designer of the Georgia Deeper Learning Network for Workforce Readiness and Economic Prosperity. An educator at heart, Mike has served as a high school principal and a middle school teacher and principal. He holds a doctorate in educational leadership and a master’s degree from the University of Georgia, along with a bachelor’s degree from Georgia Southern University.
Learn More About Battelle for Kids:
Website: https://www.battelleforkids.org/
Connect with Michael Duncan:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-duncan-edd/
Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 220 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Radio is a powerful example of why being different doesn’t mean being wrong—and how society often struggles with that distinction.
Based on a true story, the film follows the relationship between high school football coach Harold Jones (played by Ed Harris) and a young man with an intellectual disability, James Robert “Radio” Kennedy (played by Cuba Gooding Jr.). Initially an outcast in the community, Radio is taken under Coach Jones’s wing, gradually becoming a beloved figure at the school.
The film ultimately teaches that just because someone doesn’t fit traditional expectations doesn’t mean they’re wrong or less than. True strength lies in compassion, and real leadership is about lifting others up rather than shutting them out. Radio encourages us to rethink our biases and embrace people for who they are, not just for how they compare to societal norms.
Takeaways:
- Education should be student focussed
- Everyone should have a chance to learn
- One person can change a community
About Meredith Watassek:
Meredith Watassek joined Stantec as an Education Planner after more than 24 years in Education. The last nine years of her career as an educator, she served as Director of Career and Technical Education (CTE) for the sixth largest school district in Texas. Meredith has guided dozens of Stantec clients through the engagement process on projects while simultaneously leading planning and specifications development for future academic spaces.
Several of her most recent projects include School Master Planning for Alvin Community College, visioning and design of the Career and Technical Education Center for Lamar CISD, and School Master Planning and Specifications for Salteaux First Nations in Saskatchewan, Canada. Before joining Stantec, Meredith oversaw Stantec’s design and execution of the James Reese Career and Technical Education Center for Fort Bend Independent School District in Sugar Land, TX, defining program and project scope for the new facility.
With a rich background in CTE, Meredith can communicate with educators in a way that architects cannot; because she’s been in their shoes, at the front of a classroom, managing both success factors and the student experience. She believes that learning environments shape a student's experience, even if just passively. It is inside schools that students develop beliefs about their ability to be successful. For this reason, Meredith maintains that designers, planners, architects, and contractors have a responsibility to provide the most nurturing environment possible for students.
Connect with Meredith Watassek:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/watassek-meredith-a561b23a/
Twitter: https://x.com/MWatassek
Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 219 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
The hit series Ted Lasso isn’t just about soccer—it’s about leadership, culture, and the power of belief. On a special episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we sat down with Superintendent Heidie Ciesielski to break down the show’s biggest lessons and how they apply to education today.
From Ted’s optimism to his ability to build a strong, student-centered culture, we explored how school leaders can create environments where students and educators thrive. The series highlights the importance of trust, resilience, and the impact of mentorship—qualities that define great school leadership.
Whether you’re an educator, administrator, or just a fan of the show, this episode offers a fresh perspective on how the Ted Lasso mindset can shape the future of learning.
Takeaways:
- There's leaders in all of us
- Parents have a huge impact on their kids- so impact them for good
- Be curious, not judgmental
- There are many different ways to be a good leader
- It's never too late to be a good person
About Heidie Ciesielski:
Superintendent of Fenton Area Public Schools - 26 years in education - previous middle school MASSP principal of the year - previous Executive Director of Teaching and Learning with FAPS. Passionate about organizational leadership, and valuing those that work in the district you lead.
Connect with Heidie Ciesielski:
Fenton Area Public Schools Website: https://www.fentonschools.org/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidie-ciesielski-ed-s-b29527131/
Twitter: https://x.com/HeidieC24
Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 218 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Trevor Muir, an inspiring keynote speaker who celebrated the power of storytelling in education and an avid Harry Potter fan, sits down with host Kevin Stoller and co-host Carla Cummins to dive into the real-world connections between education and the beloved book series. They explore the different teaching styles depicted in Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone, the importance of building strong relationships with students, and how elements of the wizarding world can inform and inspire today’s learning environments.
At last year’s LearningSCAPES conference, we had the pleasure of connecting with Trevor Muir, an inspiring keynote speaker who celebrated the power of storytelling in education. His keynote emphasized how authentic engagement empowers students, even through challenging times, by integrating real-world projects. From screening interviews with WWII veterans to creating helpful guides for recent immigrants, his approach demonstrated the impact of learning beyond the classroom. Now, we just need to provide agile spaces to support this type of transformative learning.
Tune in to this magical conversation as we explore how the world of Harry Potter can inspire real-world educational practices.
Takeaways:
- Everyone has their own superpowers
- It's important to be intentional when sorting students
- Caring for your students is one of the most impactful things you can do
About Trevor Muir:
Trevor is a teacher, author, creator, and co-founder of the New Teacher Academy. His books The Epic Classroom, The Collaborative Classroom, and New Teacher Mindset have helped teachers worldwide to create purposeful and dynamic learning experiences. Trevor has taught in middle, high school, and college classrooms, as well as pre-service teachers at Grand Valley State University. He was a national faculty member for the Buck Institute for Education and his work has been featured in the Huffington Post, Edutopia, EdWeek, and WeAreTeachers. Trevor's inspiring and informative videos have been viewed over 30 million times. At the heart of Trevor’s work is the conviction that every student has the potential for greatness, and that every teacher can be equipped to unlock that potential.
Connect with Trevor Muir:
Website: https://www.trevormuir.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theepicclassroom
Twitter: https://x.com/TrevorMuir
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/epicclassroom/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/TrevorMuir
Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Episode 217 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, Kevin Stoller and Carla Cummins as co-host, welcome Dr. Michael Cardona, superintendent at San Marcos School District in Texas.
Today's movie is 'The Breakfast Club,' a classic movie from the 80s that dives into the cliques in high school. As always, they give out various awards, including a new category, "Where Are They Now?", which discusses where the characters would be in their lives. They also share personal anecdotes from their own educational experiences and discuss current challenges and innovations in their respective educational roles.
Takeaways:
- Parents have an impact on the classroom and student experiences
- You never truly know who someone is until you dive deeper
- Everyone makes mistakes, but everyone can learn from them
About Dr. Michael Cardona:
The San Marcos CISD School Board named Dr. Cardona as Superintendent of Schools in 2016. During his time in San Marcos CISD, Dr. Cardona has implemented a dual language program, expanded AVID districtwide, implemented GEAR Up grants affecting five cohorts of students, and created an Early College model within San Marcos High School. This past year SMHS graduated 39 students who earned their Associate’s Degree before high school graduation. During the 2024-2025 school year, San Marcos CISD and Texas State University signed a historic MOU that will place juniors and seniors who meet eligibility onto the university campus for concurrent enrollment with all expenses covered by the university and school district.
Dr. Cardona and team have extended the Career and Technical Education program to offer 21 career pathways of studies and added a state-of-the-art STEAM Center on the San Marcos HS campus as part of the 2017 Bond. Dr. Cardona is known as a leader who believes in whole child development. San Marcos provides whole family supports through SEL counselors on all secondary campuses along with Community Schools on every campus.
While leading SMCISD, Dr. Cardona also earned his PhD in Education at Texas A&M University College Station. Both Dr. Cardona and his wife, Laura, have taken in all of San Marcos over the last 8 years and Laura is a key member of the San Marcos Mermaid Society. Dr. Cardona’s oldest son, Mac, attends Texas State University while his youngest son attends Parents have an impact on the classroom and student experiences Colorado School of the Mines. Dr. Cardona and Laura’s daughter attends Texas State University. In their spare time, Dr. Cardona loves traveling and playing with his five Corgis.
Connect with Dr. Michael Cardona:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-michael-cardona-21a51420/
X: https://x.com/mcardona1989
Connect with co-host, Carla Cummins:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Connect with host, Kevin Stoller:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
Connect with San Marcos Consolidated ISD
Website: https://www.smcisd.net/
Episode 216 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, Kevin Stoller chats with Dr. Aspasia Angelou, a superintendent in Arizona. She highlights her role as a superintendent and the various initiatives she is leading in her school district.
Dr. Angelou shares her background, growing up with Greek immigrant parents, and discusses how her early experiences shaped her drive to pursue education. She talks about her journey navigating educational challenges with limited family support.
She also elaborates on the unique challenges of leading a unified school district without a high school and the legislative and logistical hurdles she faced in Arizona. She explains how she tackled these issues, including passing bonds for school funding and creating new high school facilities.
Dr. Angelou discusses her approach to integrating innovative programs in her district, such as coding for young students, diverse extracurriculars like archery and agriculture, and designing a new high school from scratch with community input.
Takeaways:
- There is always a way if you are determined enough.
- It's important to find a balance between honoring tradition and looking for innovation.
- It is critical for kids to understand technology, but it is also important that they have social experiences and play-based learning early.
About Dr. Angelou:
Dr. Aspasia Angelou is the daughter of immigrant parents and a native of Seattle, Washington, where she graduated from the University of Washington. She moved to Texas as an educator and teacher trainer in advanced placement, and then to Oklahoma as a school administrator for 8 years.
Dr. Angelou served the students, teachers, and community of Tulsa Public Schools as director of high school design in 2019, leading 4 schools through a redesign project. She is passionate about creating equitable learning environments, opportunities, and outcomes for all students.
Her entire career has been committed to serving in Title I urban schools. She was named Oklahoma High School Principal of the Year in 2017 for the academic gains made by her students during her tenure in Oklahoma City. Despite challenges, they made great gains are recognized as a Model Professional Learning Community School by Solution Tree.
Connect with Dr. Angelou:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-aspasia-angelou-25667099/
X: https://x.com/aspasiaangelou
Nadaburg USD #81:
Website: https://www.nadaburgsd.org/leadership
Episode 215 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
In this episode, Kevin is joined by Dr. Parul Minhas. They discuss the movie "Freedom Writers", and dive into many facets of the movie, and discuss some award categories such as "Modern Remake" and "Class Clown".
They discuss the significance of teacher-student connection, classroom environment, and transformative educational practices. Drawing parallels from Dr. Minhas' experiences, they highlight the importance of empathy, breaking down racial barriers, and innovative teaching approaches that resonate with every child's unique background.
About Dr. Parul Minhas: Parul Minhas, Ph.D. Director of Research and Digital Innovation, Education Design International (EDI) Dr. Parul Minhas is a leading expert in educational design, co-authoring influential books like A New Language of School Design and Building Minds: Designing Learning Spaces for Connection and Coherence. As the Director of Research and Digital Innovation at Education Design International, she is passionate about creating nurturing learning environments that support children's well-being. Her work in salutogenic design, neuroarchitecture, and biophilic spaces has significantly shaped the industry. With years of experience as an educator and researcher, Dr. Minhas is a sought-after speaker, sharing her insights on the global stage.
Connect:
Email: parul@educationdesign.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-parul-minhas/
Episode 214 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/ Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website_
As we close out 2024, it’s time to reflect on an incredible year of growth, innovation, and connection for the Better Learning Podcast. This year, we’ve continued to explore new ideas, challenge conventional thinking, and amplify voices that are driving meaningful change in education.
As we gear up for the new year, our commitment to pushing boundaries and creating impactful content remains stronger than ever. Stay tuned for exciting series, collaborations, and events designed to inspire and empower our community of listeners.
Thank you for being a part of our journey this year. Here’s to another year of learning, growing, and transforming education—together.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
Episode 213 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In today's polarized society, the role of education leaders has never been more critical. As the landscape of communities becomes increasingly divided, the challenge of fostering unity within schools and districts grows more complex. Education leaders are not just administrators; they are role models, guiding students, staff, and families toward a shared vision of collaboration and respect.
Schools are microcosms of society, reflecting the diversity and challenges of the larger world. Education leaders play a pivotal role in creating environments where students feel valued, staff feel supported, and communities feel heard. This responsibility goes beyond managing resources or enforcing policies—it’s about inspiring trust, building bridges, and fostering a culture of inclusion.
Leading in a polarized society is no small task, but the rewards are profound. By prioritizing unity and modeling inclusive leadership, education leaders can create a ripple effect that extends far beyond the walls of their schools. Together, we can transform division into understanding and build communities where every individual feels empowered to contribute.
Are you ready to take the next step in fostering unity within your educational community?
Takeaways:
- Promoting Active Listening: Encourage open dialogue where all voices are heard, ensuring that diverse perspectives are respected and valued.
- Leading by Example: Demonstrate behaviors that reflect empathy, respect, and a commitment to unity, setting a tone for others to follow.
- Building Collaborative Relationships: Strengthen partnerships with families, community members, and local organizations to foster a sense of shared responsibility and purpose.
- Focusing on Shared Goals: Highlight common aspirations, such as student success and well-being, to bring stakeholders together despite differing viewpoints.
About Erin Kane:
Prior to serving as Superintendent, guest speaker Erin Kane was serving as the Executive Director of Schools for American Academy, a charter public school in the Douglas County School District that serves almost 3,000 students across three campuses in preschool through eighth grade. Ms. Kane led the effort to found American Academy back in 2004. Under her leadership, American Academy expanded to include additional campuses and a preschool program. In 2016, she led the Douglas County School District as the Interim Superintendent.
Ms. Kane returned to the leadership role at American Academy in the fall of 2018. Under her leadership, the district’s academic scores increased, employee morale improved, turnover decreased and the annual spending deficit was eliminated.
Prior to joining American Academy, Ms. Kane spent nearly a decade in the high technology industry in project development, project management, education, consulting and practice management. She holds a Master’s degree in Public Administration, along with an engineering degree in Applied Mathematics and Computer Science, from the University of Colorado. Ms. Kane is a Colorado native who has resided in Douglas County with her family for more than two decades.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
Episode 212 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
What makes Friday Night Lights more than just a football movie?
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we explore how this iconic film captures the heart and soul of high school football in West Texas, delving into the emotional struggles, community pressures, and personal triumphs of the Permian Panthers.
They discuss the reality of the high school sports culture portrayed in the movie and how it compares to today's context in Odessa, Texas. They discuss various categories for the movie, such as "Modern Remake", "Realistic and Unrealistic", and "The John Keating Character".
From lessons in resilience and teamwork to the cultural impact of the game, we uncover why this story continues to inspire and resonate far beyond the field. Whether you’re a sports fan, an educator, or simply love a powerful narrative, this episode is one you won’t want to miss!
Takeaways:
- The essence of a quality coach or teacher is the ability to motivate and encourage your students or athletes
- Having a common passion as a community is unifying
- It's up to adults to help create engaging opportunities for students
About Dr. Scott Muri:
Dr. Muri joined the Ector County ISD family as Superintendent of Schools on July 1, 2019. Prior to that, he spent four years as the Superintendent of Schools for Spring Branch Independent School District in Houston, TX. During that time achievement gaps narrowed in all academic areas while overall student achievement rose. He fostered innovation in the system by incorporating the redesign process to transform the student learning experience.
Prior to taking over at Spring Branch ISD, Dr. Muri served as the Deputy Superintendent of Academics in Fulton County Schools in Atlanta, Georgia, a large school district with 96,000 students and 100 campuses.
Before joining FCS in Atlanta, Dr. Muri spent five years with Charlotte‐Mecklenburg Schools in Charlotte, North Carolina. His roles included Area Superintendent, Zone Superintendent, and Chief Information Officer overseeing research and evaluation, along with technology infrastructure and instructional technology innovation.
Dr. Muri’s educational experiences include serving as one of the first National Board Certified Teachers in the United States, high school principal, and administrator at Disney’s Celebration School in Celebration, FL.
Throughout his career, Dr. Muri has demonstrated a passion and ability for leading change, driving organizational effectiveness, and significantly improving student achievement while closing achievement gaps. With a focus on collaboration and excellence, Dr. Muri creates a positive and effective teaching and learning environment.
Education & Certifications:
- Educational Doctorate, Educational Leadership, Wingate University, Matthews, North Caro lina2011
- Master’s Degree, Public School Administration, Stetson University, Deland, Florida, 2001 National Board Certified Teacher, Early Adolescence/Generalist, The National Board for Professional Teaching Standards, 1994
- Master’s Level Work in Public School Administration, Appalachian State University, Boone, NC
- Bachelor of Arts in Intermediate Education and Middle School Education, Wake Forest University, Winston‐Salem, NC, 1988
Episode 211 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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What is your favorite school related tv show or movie?
In this episode, we feature our annual compilation of interviews conducted at the EDSpaces conference in Houston. This year, with a twist of breaking down the best tv show and movies related to education! Our guests were asked two key questions:
- What is your favorite school related tv show or movie?
- What is unrealistic about that movie or tv show?
The guest list includes 3 people from Pennsylvania, 2 from Utah, 5 from Texas, 5 from Missouri, 2 from Montana, 3 from Arizona, 2 from Wisconsin, 3 from California, 2 from Florida, 1 from the states of Indiana, Iowa, Illinois, North Carolina, Oregon, Kentucky, New York, Connecticut, Minnesota and Rhode Island.
Here are the tallies for each of the movies mentioned:
School of Rock - 6
Abbott Elementary - 4
Remember the Titans - 2
Grease - 2
The Sound of Music - 1
Dead Poets Society - 1
Home Alone - 1
Annie - 1
Welcome Back, Kotter - 1
Dangerous Minds - 1
Summer School - 1
Top Gun - 1
Stand and Deliver - 1
To Sir, With Love - 1
Ferris Bueller's Day Off - 1
Fast Times at Ridgemont High - 1
Most Likely to Suceed - 1
Gilmore Girls - 1
Glee - 1
The Long Game - 1
A Christmas Story - 1
Billy Madison - 1
The OC - 1
The Breakfast Club - 1
I Love Lucy - 1
Friday Lights - 1
Yesterday - 1
Old School - 1
Boston Public - 1
Freedom Writers - 1
Ted Lasso - 1
Back to School - 1
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Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
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Episode 210 of the Better Learning Podcast Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode, host Kevin Stoller alongside guests Dr. Michael McDowell and Aaron Eisberg, discuss the movie 'Dead Poets Society'. They explore its themes of conformity, success, and educational transformation while drawing parallels to modern-day educational challenges and experiences.
They also give various awards to the movie, such as Most Realistic and Unrealistic aspects and who could replace Robin Williams in a modern remake. They also discuss the changes that could occur if it was remade today.
The episode wraps up with insights into Michael and Aaron's innovative visual book project aimed at transforming educational practices.
Takeaways:
- Being passionate about your work changes education for kids
- Being unorthodox can have a positive impact
- You can be successful and be yourself
About Dr. Michael McDowell:
Michael McDowell, EdD was a public school educator for eighteen years serving in the roles of classroom teacher, academic and athletic coach, school principal, assistant superintendent of personnel and instruction, and superintendent. During his tenure as a superintendent, his school district received state and national accolades including the National Blue Ribbon Award which recognized their work for student performance and mental health and well-being in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic by the U.S. Department of Education. Dr. McDowell serves on educational boards, served as a college professor, and has worked for non-profit organizations to enhance student learning around the world. Over the course of his career, Dr. McDowell has authored bestselling books, created professional learning programs and workbooks, provided keynotes and workshops, and provided practical tools and resources for thousands of teachers and leaders on almost every continent around the world. A prolific author and consultant, Dr. McDowell is recognized as one of the leading authorities on integrating innovative and impactful practices into schools. Dr. McDowell co-founded Hinge Education and offers keynotes and executive coaching to heads of school around the world, where he partners with educational leaders to implement high leverage strategies that will enhance teaching and learning in classrooms, schools, and systems.
Socials:
X: @mmcdowell13 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelmcdowell13/
About Aaron Eisberg:
Aaron Eisberg is an international facilitator and an expert in project-based learning, instructional design, and professional development for K-12 educators. With a career that began as a teacher in K-5 classrooms, he has since advised schools and systems on creating rigorous instruction and empowering student voice. As the Director for the Center for Excellence at Napa New Tech High School, Aaron leads professional learning and fosters a student-centered culture focused on academic and 21st-century outcomes. He has a passion for project-based learning and partners with educators globally. Aaron holds degrees in Natural Science and Elementary Education and is a long-standing member of the PBLWorks National Faculty as well as consultant with The Core Collaborative. He is now sharing his experiences and insights as an author.
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Episode 209 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners: Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/ EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/ Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller speaks with Dr. David Dumon, the superintendent of Altar Valley School District in Tucson, Arizona. Dr. Dumon shares his background, from his early school experiences and decision to go into education to his current role as a superintendent.
They discuss the challenges and rewards of educational leadership, the importance of striving for academic excellence while maintaining a supportive environment for students and staff, and the innovative approaches Dr. Dumon has taken to address teacher shortages and community engagement. They also covers Dr. Dumon's career progression, the significance of morning routines, and the impact of external pressures such as school labeling on education.
Takeaways:
- The importance of being visible
- Providing teachers with the skills need to succeed
- Not everyone ends up in education the same way
- Community involvement strengthens the school culture
- There’s more to a school than the labels
Dr. David Dumon serves as the superintendent of Altar Valley School District. He began his career in 1995 as a social studies teacher at Alhambra School District in Phoenix. In 2000, Dr. Dumon started his administrative career at Surprise Elementary, a K – 8 school, in Dysart Unified School District. He spent the next 14 years in Dysart, most of which was as the principal at Surprise Elementary. His school’s achievements were recognized in 2012 when he was selected for the Arizona School Administrator, Distinguished Administrator Award – Elementary Division and honored as a finalist for the Rodel Exemplary Principal Award.
As superintendent of Altar Valley, Dr. Dumon has focused on ensuring schools run efficiently and allocating resources appropriately, while always considering what is best for kids. Dr. Dumon is committed to maintaining small class sizes and offering free, full-day pre school and kindergarten. In 2022, Dr. Dumon was awarded the All Arizona Superintendent Award for Small Districts and completed his certification for American Association for School Administrators (AASA) National Superintendent Certification.
Dr. Dumon is a three-time graduate of Arizona State University where he received his bachelor, master, and doctoral degrees. He lives in Tucson with his wife, daughter, and two dogs.
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Soundbites: “What’s one small thing someone can do to change their school?”
Episode 208 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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Is your furniture shaping the way students learn?
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller welcomes Amanda Hastings, NCIDQ, ALEP, IIDA, Senior Interior Designer at SLAM Collaborative. Together, they dive into the critical role of furniture in shaping educational environments and its impact on students, teachers, and communities.
Amanda’s passion for creating dynamic, student-centered learning spaces shines as she shares her approach to furniture design in schools. With nearly two decades of experience and a client-centered philosophy, she emphasizes that furniture should do more than complement design—it should guide it.
Takeaways:
- Furniture should guide the design, not just follow it.
- Engaging teachers early in the design process is crucial.
- Quality furniture impacts student learning and engagement.
- Educating decision-makers on furniture value is essential.
- Community involvement can drive educational improvements.
- Building a positive school culture is as important as the physical space.
- Collaboration among designers, educators, and communities is key.
Amanda’s approach to interior design is both thoughtful and deeply client-centered. With almost two decades of experience in designing inclusive environments, she brings a wealth of expertise to her work, particularly in the public-education sector. Amanda’s design philosophy is rooted in connection—she prioritizes building relationships with clients to understand their unique needs and visions and values understanding the "why" behind every design decision. Her designs are conceptually grounded, blending creativity with the personality of the client to create engaging, dynamic spaces where everyone will thrive.
Her recent completion of the ALEP program in 2023 was driven by her passion for designing educational environments, and equipped her with expert knowledge and an enhanced desire to not only create student-centered spaces that enrich their learning experience but also to bring this knowledge to the clients and communities she works with.
Sound Bites:
"Furniture should guide the design, not just follow it."
"We need a cultural shift in education."
"Seeing furniture in person makes a huge difference."
"The furniture world can be confusing."
"The transformation of schools is the best part."
Follow Amanda Hastings on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-hastings-shea-ncidq-alep-iida-ba603755/
Learn More About The SLAM Collaborative
Website: https://slamcoll.com/
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Episode 207 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Transcript
Kevin Stoller (00:06.754) Welcome to the Better Learning Podcast. My name is Kevin Stoller, host of the show, and we're always looking at how we can improve education from a variety of different aspects. We've been really digging into the furniture aspect and how much it impacts the space over some recent episodes, and I've been having a lot of conversations. So that's why my guest today, Amanda Hastings. Amanda, how are you doing?
Amanda Hastings
Very good. Thank you for having me.
Kevin Stoller
Yeah. And so why don't you give a little bit of just like your intro and the firm you're with and what your role is. And then we're just going to go back because we were having conversation and that's really I want to get back to really just the conversational part of it.
Amanda Hastings
I am a senior interior designer at the SLAMM Collaborative based in Connecticut. We have firms all over the country, but mostly the public ed work that we do K-12 schools is in Connecticut and out of our Rhode Island office, Connecticut office.
Mostly just Connecticut and Rhode Island are where we focus. I've been working on public ed for most of my career. So probably like the 18 years or so. And again, mostly Connecticut. And yeah, it's become one of those things where I just kind of fell into doing schools because the firm I worked for before did it. And then it just has become a passion of mine where now I solely do K-12 public school work.
And it is something that I'm definitely passionate about, like the learning environments and the furniture aspects of that. Last year I completed the ALEP program, which was tremendously insightful. And it kind of blew my mind that like, how do you get to this point in your career where you're working on school so far? And there was so much information there to learn. I kind of makes you feel bad of like, my God, I wish I had known this like 15 years ago and was working, you know, towards these things at that point and understanding the reasons why behind everything that we're doing. So at this point, I really feel like it's important to, for me to share that knowledge with either other designers in my firm or, you know, definitely with the clients, but like would love to like find a way to kind of bring more of the information out to the general public. Cause you just, I just feel like, not everybody understands what we do, why we do it, and how the classroom is impacted by design.
Kevin Stoller (02:21.068) I love it. Yeah, perfect. And we have talked because I've been trying to, I wanted to interview a lot of people, not on the podcast. I've been interviewing, I think I'm at somewhere in the mid-upper 30s or 40s people just being like, from your perspective, what's the best practices of the projects that you're doing? What's the best way to make sure that the furniture is incorporated so that
that the intent of the space and the culture and the teaching and the pedagogy, everything aligns. So when they go into that space, that it really makes the impact that we're seeking. And you were the ones that we were getting pretty deep in the weeds. So I'm like, you know, we need to really get the details in on an episode like this. So I was just starting to tell you before we recorded this, one of the things that I've gotten from it is that
We did a three part series that's going to be coming out by the time this one goes, it will be there. So people can go back and listen to it. I'm really looking at the why it matters and then more of like the how and some of the best practices. But what I've been landing on, it does feel like the best, the best case scenario is typically when it is a team collaborative approach and that furniture is really looked at very early in the process. And it sounds like your view on that is very similar on that. What I mean, from your point of view, like what what's the best case for you? Like if you were going to guide a district through this, how would you guide them through the process?
Amanda Hastings
I think so. First, I'm going to say when I first started working on schools, a lot of times like the interior designers wouldn't even be involved until like, you know, like all the spaces are laid out, you're coming in halfway through the design. And that to me, I'm like, how, how is that helping that, you know, like, like the furniture is not something that should just follow the design. It should be helping to guide it. like, you know, whether you're setting up a classroom or an office or a media center, catering those, that design to what that space is, is so important. So like, I think that has definitely evolved with the work that I've been doing. And, you know, this was a long time ago. like being an advocate for getting into your designers and the people that are doing the programming and planning involved very early on and making sure that they are part of that space planning.
And before, maybe even before you're talking with the client, just using your best practices to kind of figure out how do these spaces work so that when you do have those initial conversations with the client, you've already brought the design to a certain point where you know how it functions, know how, know, the, you know, essence of like a media center. So you can talk them through what you're showing to have that conversation. But I feel like sometimes, you know, if the design doesn't have the ability to bring that conversation to life, that's where you're, you're struggling at first. So making sure that you truly are embedded in the design from the beginning to be able to have those conversations. how early?
Me, I'm usually when the project starts, when we go to the interview is when we kind of start having that conversation. And then, you know, when it's SD, the beginning of very schematic designs of just working for me, working with our programmers. They do a lot of space planning and just even making sure they understand what the size of a classroom needs to be, what you know, what you need in there to have those dynamic layouts that if.
desks are all just facing forward in a room. Like you might not need as much space as you do if you're moving them around and having flexible furniture. really making sure that everyone who's working on the project understands the why you need certain square footage or why you need visibility to the media center or visibility to other places to kind of activate those things. I think so very early on, as soon as we start the project, we're having these conversations.
Kevin Stoller
Yeah. So as I've been talking to people and just coming off LearningSCAPES and, you know, and when a recording this, we're heading into EDspaces. Like it's all like I feel like this is a topic that just keeps coming up and went probably because I'm bringing it up. But but also because I feel like it is like we're at that moment in like the industry. Yeah, we're getting this momentum like where if you would have said 10 years ago, like these newer products were coming out and like we were recognizing that they make an impact and we were putting it in, but then the teachers weren't kind of coming along. And now I feel like we're addressing that that was recognized and now we're doing a better job as an industry of getting the teacher voices and bringing them along on professional development. So now I feel like the last step to like really get this is, is how do we kind of get the team approach to go in earlier?
To do this and it really comes around like just like the earliest conversation of like let's be talking about furniture very early. us it definitely helps when you have a school district or you have a city that's already you know up on that information and they're pushing for it so you know it's much easier obviously when you don't have to educate everybody that's on the project for like, is this so great? When they come to you with that, that makes it so much easier. So we've definitely seen more push. Like for example, a Rhode Island project that we just did, I just had to write an entire letter to be submitted with my furniture package to explain to them the entire process along the way and how we engage staff and what we did to make sure that they were educated. And that's a new thing. Like we've never had to do that with any of our furniture packages before. So now it's being brought from that state review to say, hey, this is important and we want to make sure that you're doing it. So show us how you did that. So that to me is exciting because, you know, it doesn't feel like you're out here just like pushing forward and on your own that really it's coming from, you know, the important people that are funding these projects. So. Yeah, I always use this like that bell curve that if you look at like an industry, like a product life cycle, like I felt like, you know, like we were like kind of those trendsetters and then the early adopters and now we're we're at the point where if we're not at the early majority we may even be further along where I think this is like the majority is recognizing what's going on which is exciting.
So this is where I'm at and I'd love to get your take on this. I feel like there have been two camps of when it actually comes down to more of like the mechanics of how how furniture is approached on a project. There's kind of the camp that I would say is more than kind of the more traditional approach of like, we're going to build a spec and we're going to bid it out. And that's typically going to be like roughly six months prior to a school opening. Maybe they'll get a little further ahead. Maybe it'll be nine months. But and then there's this other camp.
And that's more of like, we're going to pick our partner early on. We're going to do some type of valuation and pick our partner first before we pick the products. Have you had experience with either one of those or is yours typically some type of hybrid?
Amanda Hastings
A little bit of a hybrid. Mostly bidding. A lot of times it comes from the client. They sort of dictate what it is.
In Connecticut, you have the option of either using a state contract or going to bid. But you're limited by who's on the state contract. And thankfully, a lot of the school products are, but not necessarily everything. And then there's limits to that. So it's working around that contract system. But we kind of do a hybrid thing in my office where even if we go to bid, we're limiting what the product could product is, so you're not just opening up to anyone providing you anything and then kind of having to vet it and work with the client to figure out on the end, know, are these chairs comfortable? Like, does this one match this one? Are they equal in ergonomics and durability? We kind of dictate upfront, like, here are your three things that we've already vetted that these ones, here's your basis of design that we know that we want and two, that we will accept, and that is it. So we kind of control exactly where getting it.
It's not a perfect system. Ideally, we would love to just go work with VS and get the VS chair or work directly with Smith's systems and get exactly what we want. But for me, it's always been very hard because it's not always up to me of how we can do that. Working within the parameters that I have, we try very hard to make our own rules to make the system work for us.
Kevin Stoller
Yeah. And it is, I mean, you're 100 % right from what I'm...been hearing from everyone. It is so dependent on each state and what the requirements are. And then obviously, sometimes the districts have different preferences in there. Yeah, and I think that's, that's the piece to me that is probably like the, the next wave of the conversations that we that be next proving how do we do this? Yeah, of the how we do this because yeah, because because I do think that that's where we're at right now. Like, like, this is the moment where we need to have the discussions of like, is furniture a commodity? Or is furniture, you know, an integral part of the learning environment? Because you know, the reality of it, like, if you have to put three equals, on there. They're never quite equal. if you start mixing and matching, it doesn't have the same design intent where if it was all the basis of design, or if you can say, hey, this is exactly what I want, you can actually pick that and the district can actually pick this is what we want on there. that's why you like
Yeah, if I'm going to put my my experience on it, it's like, man, when you can do that, you're going to have a much better result. You're going have this collaborative approach. You're going to know exactly what you're getting. You're going to know the pricing upfront. You're going to say like, hey, we are not going to be, we're not going over budget and we can now decide what is the most important thing. So if we want to put more of our resources into a certain, a certain part of the school or certain ones, we can now
like collaboratively make those decisions versus putting a bid out and then trying to piece it all back together once we get all these bid prices. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely would help them, you know, maintain the level of what you want in the end, which I feel like sometimes like, not, know, our struggle is sometimes, sometimes not everyone really understands the value of the furniture, no matter what you say. And everyone has, you know, their things that they think are the most important, whether it be an architectural item or something for the custodial, like a very expensive piece of equipment for a custodial. And so it's weighing those things where everyone kind of comes in there with their own opinions. so furniture is not always the top priority for everyone. sometimes we get the, we'll just use the existing chairs and desks and they're all attached to each other and it's fine. They're in good condition. And you just think like, no, no, please.
Like, let us figure out like a way to work with the budget and work with what you're getting. And, you know, if you can truly get what you want in the end, like that would definitely help them. you know, it's always that struggle of like not everyone sees that furniture as the priority based on, know, whatever they're coming to the table with there. Yeah. So is it, is it the biggest obstacle if I'm hearing you right is more of like the education of the client? I would say, yeah, the education of the people that
make the decisions. Not necessarily, you it's not always teachers who are making decisions. A lot of times it's, you know, people that are part of the building committee, the Board of Ed, superintendents, like, you know, they all kind of have a lot of influence because they are the ones that make the financial decisions. So it's us bringing our expertise to them so they understand that this is something valuable that they should be putting their money into and why, right? What, from your point of view, what would be like if you can wave a magic wand to make this better or to make sure these projects have a bigger impact, what's the biggest thing that you think is getting in your way?
Amanda Hastings
I think honestly, people just are very unaware of the furniture world. They don't really understand what is available to them or why behind furniture design and how the classrooms function.
I feel like a lot of times, you know, like a board of ed or a building committee is parents or people that are retired and they're kind of doing this as, know, on the side. So a lot of times they're not even working in the schools or they're not necessarily like seeing what it's like living in those classrooms. They feel like a lot, like the people that come to the table don't necessarily know all the stuff that we deal with on a daily basis or necessarily the stuff that the teacher's dealing with on a daily basis. some way, if there was a way to get more education out there to those, that tier of people that are invested in the schools. I think it would really help, you know, people, not only us, but obviously the schools and school systems and all the way down to the students, because those people would be advocating for it at that level. And earlier on than even like the architects and designers are involved in the play, you know, and they're, they're putting this together to get the funding for these projects in the beginning, if they set that as a priority.
before it even becomes a project. I think that is key in getting better furniture. Yeah. I always think of it it's in a lot of ways, it's almost like a cultural shift. like, how do you, yeah, how do you? And to generalize, a lot of times people on the building committee are older because they have more time. They're retired. And they don't know what's happening in current furniture design or classroom.
concepts and you know a lot you know there's a lot of people who are educated but sometimes you're like I've had the same desk back then like what's the matter you know that attitude and you're like no let me tell you let me explain you know it's some of those things that you you do encounter which you know also make you frustrated yeah you can do better
Kevin Stoller
Yeah, all right. So that's a good perspective because that's what I'm yeah like in my mind like I'm only dealing with with this all the time So maybe we maybe we still do need to drive home or that why and show it, you know, put it in a bunch of different Formats for them because I'm always trying to think I'm like, know, like, know, like is it you know, like
They may not be the ones that making the decisions, but I think they definitely can have a voice in what those decisions are. And it is directly benefiting their kids. So I that's, don't know how they would get educated on this, but I feel like that's probably a missing link of like people that don't necessarily know what's happening. All right. You're hitting like one of my passion points right here. Did we, did we talk about, the nonprofit and the docu-series last time we talked that we were working on? Okay. All right.
I'm going to tell you about it. And you could. But that was one of the things that I'm like, you know what, we really need to bring the communities on like like we're working on this more from like the industry side. But wouldn't it be awesome if it was more the demand side of like the communities were coming to the school saying, why, why aren't we doing this? So we just our team just spent a lot of time thinking about like, how do we like like like what does make those cultural changes? And we kept landing of like it's like it's the media and entertainment industry. Like most major movements and things that have happened, it's because there's been a movie or a TV show or something. And I always come back to the show Fixer Upper with Chip and Joanna Gaines. Super entertaining ship. Not everyone has farmhouse. Exactly. Everyone has shiplap on their walls now. They completely changed the way homes and...
you know, in the US are designed. And so, yeah, so we've been trying to look through that and be like, how do we do that? How do we do it in an entertaining way where it's not, you know, just for people who are normally interested in schools? So we started a nonprofit with, you know, with other partners, and we're always looking for more for more people to come along with this called Second Class Foundation. That was... that's really rooted in how do we improve education through the use of media and storytelling? And one of the first projects we're doing is we found this amazing film crew to do a docu-series and they did the first episode, which is really powerful. It's really well done. I would definitely recommend everyone watch it. It's not that long. It's like nine minutes long, but it hits home like...
really of like, yeah, I've heard people say it's heartbreaking. And I'm like, yeah, just know that's the first that's only the first episode. Sometimes you need that, like a little bit of that. Yeah. He's honest to like, get the point across. Right. Yeah, I keep saying like, we have a mapped out like 10 episode series. And it's like every good story it it has to show the transformation.
So the first one is really heartbreaking and it's really like kind of showing a really dire need of a school in Idaho. But our intent is to weave other stories in around the country and show like others like, I mean, Cranston schools are great example of you look at some of the things that they're doing in that district and to be able to showcase, be like, look, this is what some schools in the country are doing.
And some districts are working towards and being able to weave some of these stories and these narratives, but really wrapped around really good character development in there. I know it's a big thing. mean, I'll show you. Yeah. I mean, I'll send you the link, but, you know, secondclassfoundation.org is is for the listeners and we can put the link in there. But yeah, I keep coming back to them like I don't know how else to get other people in to it other than trying to meet them where they're at. And, you know, and the intent is how do we put content like Netflix quality types of things that when they're sitting down at night saying, what am I going to watch? They actually watch something like this. The TikTok world and the, you know, Instagram reels and getting that so that you're sharing it. The next person is sharing it. I have no idea if I can start that, but like that, you know, that's like the world it seems like everything is like spurred from right but like how to get that going with beyond just our industry. yeah. So digging into like what you do on an everyday basis, you have a very good working knowledge of like, what products are out there and the why behind it. I mean, what are the things that
that you wish other people knew or had the viewpoint, either if they're just starting out or they haven't done as many schools or? I think it like like for me, like going to Ed spaces and really seeing and having that like, like not just having like a sales rep come and kind of give you the pitch, but like really seeing the furniture and feeling it and sitting in it. And like it's amazing how that actual small act of like
Kevin Stoller (23:03.674) bringing a sample chair to a client and having them sit in a student chair that is ergonomic and does have movement and they instantly get it. Like they're like, my God, like this is what the students should have, I understand. So I feel like anyone who's new to that, just like getting out there and like seeing the furniture in person and like hands-on and testing it and sitting in it and like just getting involved in that, like seeing it in person. Like there's so many things, know, like
pictures and images of classrooms and all of that you can see online. But I feel like it doesn't really resonate until you're trying it out yourself. So that to me is like step one. If you're going to do school design, like go to EdSpaces or go to showrooms or go to a factory tour, go and like see, you know, get the spiel, but also get to test it yourself so you understand. Yeah. What was the moment for you like when it clicked?
Amanda Hastings
I think, you know, like I'm I'm a BS person. I
Like I love our, VS dealers, Robert Lord, and they are fantastic. So working with them, our VS prep and just, I distinctly remember when you say video, like David Stubbs, the video that they had done of like school in Hawaii and just how transformative it was. And then just going to their factory and seeing that in person. And then not only just understanding the why behind the, the design and like how the classroom functions, but also like the integrity of how the furniture is made, the durability, which is huge in schools. Like that's a huge thing. You know, they get this furniture usually once for 50 years. So how is it going to hold up? And, you know, is it going to be suitable for kids in high school who are like rough and tough on it and all, and like just being able to like sit in it and test it and see like how this is made and how does this really benefit the school on
you know, a very wide variety of ways, whether it's budget or like I durability or comfort or flexibility or, you know, future proofing for how does this evolve over time? They were very integral in that for me of just kind of getting that message and that, you know, it's not just being dedicated to them, but then seeing how does that work with other people and how are other companies evolving? Because I feel like in the past 10 years,
Like definitely in the past 15 years, a lot of other companies have come along and a lot of other companies have definitely evolved what they're offering for furniture. I think following in that trend, right? Like there was not a lot of the same stuff back 10 years ago that there is now that you have way more options for what you can do with the classrooms, sit to sand desks and chairs that are different ways of sitting and those things and just being excited for what's evolving.
Kevin Stoller
Yeah, totally, totally agree. Yeah, I feel like that story component of really that understanding of of the why behind it is so important. To me, I remember like distinctly in that video, I think it's not just the furniture, right? Like it's showing the classroom that the kids are sitting on the floor and they're like having like a soft spot where they're leaning against the chair or
sitting underneath the desk. So it's not always like the in the box that you're picturing of like, how does this desk work? But hey, can someone sit under this? And now all of sudden, it feels like a cozy spot. And they're leaning against a soft seating in the room. And how are they using that differently? it's not just about the one function that you think that that piece of furniture has, but how can that whole classroom kind of be an inviting and exciting place for kids to be engaged? Yeah, yep. Love it. Yeah.
That to me is like a perfect example of like, man, like there are these resources that just so desperately want to help on these projects that to be able to work with them and bring people in and do that. How often are you either approach like what's it like from your point of view when people are
calling you about furniture or you're trying to learn about furniture because one of the things that I've been learning from these interviews is that the furniture world can be confusing of like, who are the distributors? Who are the manufacturers? Who does what? Like, what are the contracts? who has access to what? Have you figured that out yet? I I feel like I know that more so just because of working on the school projects.
Kevin Stoller (27:40.078) I don't think it says, you the people in my office that do furniture for higher ed or corporate don't really understand that as much as I do because I constantly have to work with bids and who is a dealer and what's a manufacturer and what manufacturers are on state contract and with who and like that level is a little bit more intense, I think in like the public ed world than it is in other areas. So I feel like I do have a good understanding, but sometimes it, you know, it's hard to tell
what's the sales pitch versus what is the genuine, and you kind of have to like, just, you know, do your research and be open-minded, but also, you know, keep those questions in mind. you know, sometimes you just see, well, maybe you just copied the last person's because they're so successful. And so is that really what, like, what your furniture is bringing or, you know, like, it's just kind of being aware of, I don't know, you know, the whole spiel behind it sometimes. It's not always.
all just about like the furniture and the classrooms, but sometimes it's a sales pitch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, you know, like that I've been in the furniture world, you know, on this for 15 years now. And there's definitely, you know, there are definitely people who like are in it and care about, and I would say a lot in our industry are, and then there's some where it is clearly they're just trying to sell stuff. and I think on my end,
making sure that your client kind of understands the integrity of the products that we kind of are promoting and the dealerships and the manufacturers who do have their best intentions and wanna be there for the long run. And like why that might be something that you're selecting versus somebody else that might be less expensive or why you're selecting one company or one chair over another.
that it's not for on us, you it's not just about the sales pitch, but there is that whole breadth of reasoning behind it. So, you know, it kind of helps us to understand all of that behind the scenes because it's very hard to sell the wide your client without understanding the difference between, you know, the whole spectrum of every chair that's out there and like what sets one apart from the other.
Kevin Stoller
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Completely. It's a, yeah. I, yeah, I think this is another one that I'm like,And I think the furniture industry, and I'll put myself in that category of like, think we can be doing a better job coordinating and not making, I mean, I know there's always going to be a competitive component to it, but I know enough of like the people in this industry and the best ones don't have that competitive mindset. They have this collaborative mindset.
And, and that's my hope is that, you know, like we're genuinely in this because we want to create better learning environments. that is our goal. of you out there who have that passion that comes through, right? Like you, it's very easy to see who's passionate about this and, and, you know, versus like what is just a sales pitch. that passion is definitely a driving force that like, resonates with on the design side of these for me.
Yeah, yeah. And that's what's the part that's encouraging to me is that I think the ones that are like really getting involved like at a deeper level of this, whether it's in, you know, the A4LE community or the Ed market, you know, and, you know, the corresponding conferences on there. What else are you looking at? Like, what are the things that are either headaches to you or... And then I'm gonna...
ask you the converse there when we wrap up. I am going to say a hundred percent every project, every single time budget is always the biggest hurdle. You know, sometimes you are very limited on what you have. Sometimes there's other things that get pushed into the furniture budget. So it's not just your typical furniture. So you're dealing with a lot of different aspects. And I, I feel like that and as prices are rising and things are more expensive, but sometimes those budgets have been increased.
to deal with inflation. That's always a struggle on our end of how do you provide exactly what you think they need when the budget just kind of feels like it's fighting you all the time. And like, where is it that you can kind of pull back or like, what can you do so that you're not compromising the integrity of what they're getting in the classroom or what the students are getting for furniture, but how do you balance that with like keeping on budget that every single time is the hardest part. Yeah, how are you seeing like the budgets?
Kevin Stoller (32:28.39) be assigned? Are they taking percentage of the job costs or are they looking at per square foot or some other? A lot of times I'm not involved when they're set, but I think They just give you that budget and say, this is what you can echo over. I think the way they do it in Connecticut is it's a certain amount per student. If you have 600 kids, 600 times, I don't know what the number is, whatever that number is.
And then that's what you kind of across the board. We've had challenges where they're like, we have 600 students. But really, the school is planned for 800 students. And you're like, that budget didn't actually cover the new school. That covered your existing school. then it's those challenges. But I think for me, it's always understanding, what is that budget in the first place? So that can really think about what's the best thing that we can do. For me, it's always
What's the best that we can get them, the most that we can get them within that budget that, that, you know, allows them to have like the greatest school possible. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Now on the positive side, what, keeps you going? What do you, what do you love about this work? Like, what are the things that get you excited about or really find fulfilling? Yeah. First of all, this, like having other people, like it, I feel like it's been a newer thing for me to like after doing the A-Lab and being a little bit more involved in like the,
that world that there are other people out there who are doing this too. I feel like people are excited about it. So that is, I'm so excited about that. Cause usually being the only one in my office for the past 10 years that worked on Public Ed, I felt like, you know, I have other designers and other firms that I know, but like, there's not that community for me. So like having a community now has been fantastic. Also, you know, like so many of these schools haven't been touched in 50 years. And when you see what their classrooms look like, what the,
chairs that they're sitting in that like, know, the art teacher has a closet. She doesn't have a classroom. She has a cart and that is it. And what, when you're working on these projects and they get to see that like, not only do I have like an entire classroom, like it's full of amazing things. Like that excitement is the best part. Like what the possibilities of what those teachers and students and like community have, like that is the best for me. And like, that's why I kind of.
Kevin Stoller (34:51.514) decided that like public ed really was like my favorite thing because it was just so different than doing like a corporate job or working on, know, like a higher ed. They're like amazing, cool projects. But for me, like that transformation that you have when you go from a school that literally you've had the more, know, the ceilings are crumbling on them. The like, the walls, the doors don't work. The windows don't, you know, like there's all these things that they're living in these horrible spaces. And when they ask you like,
Will I be able to turn on the lights in my room or can I come into my classroom and like not have to wear my coat in the winter? And then you say, well, of course. And then also here are all the other things that you could have like your, you know, here's the furniture options and here's like how this space is going to work. And here's like the view of the, you know, forest outside. It gets so excited. And that to me is the best part. Like that. And user. That's really cool. Well, thank you for the work you're doing.
Because I do think like you're finding, like you said, the community. I'm totally with you. mean, this community of it, it's there is a like a specialness to to this of like this type of work that is just different from other sectors. And it's really cool to to find this community that does generally care about it and kind of give that like.
extra attention to it and recognize like this is this literally is life changing. Like how lucky are we that we to do work like that? Yeah, like the entire community. has been to school. Most everybody you know has a connection with school, you know, so I feel like it's like everybody gets excited about it because they understand it. It's a part of everybody's life for the most part. So yeah, yeah. So yeah, I appreciate that. All right. Anything else I should be asking you that I didn't ask you about? gosh.
I mean, you know, I could keep talking, Yeah, I'm just, I just think it's exciting that in this time that they're, like I said, there's, there's motion, right? It's moving forward and it's just getting better all the time and more education and more information out there that, you know, broader communities are understanding about this. And it's just, it's going to make not only the schools better, it's going to make our designs better. It's just, yeah, a lot to come. That's exciting. So. Yeah. Very cool.
Kevin Stoller (37:07.782) All right. Well, to the listeners, if you have not hit subscribe wherever you're listening, just hit subscribe and betterlearningpodcast.com is the hub for everything. I mean, this is our community. So it is, you know, like being able to really look at this, figure out how we can do a better, but then also, you know, like having that broader view of like, yeah, learning environments are a big part of this, but it's also like, we're looking at education as a whole of like, we all are recognizing we want to give the best opportunities for every kid. And it's pretty cool. have a community like that, that we get to interact with. So, Amanda, thank you.
Amanda Hastings
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.
Kevin Stoller (37:58.874) Views and opinions expressed on the Better Learning Podcast are those of myself as an individual and my guests and do not necessarily represent the organizations that we work for, the Association for Learning Environments, K-12, Education Leaders Organization, or Second Class Foundation.
Are you ready to revolutionize the way your school thinks about furniture?
In our FF&E Procurement Revisionism Series, we’ll explore how integrating flexible, student-centered furniture into your classroom designs can enhance engagement and foster better learning outcomes. Plus, learn how to overcome the hurdles of traditional procurement processes to streamline the journey from concept to installation.
Episode 3 of 3: The EXECUTION
In Episode 3 of the FF&E Procurement Revisionism Series, guest speaker Brad Kiehl demystifies the furniture procurement process, highlighting strategies to make it more efficient and stress-free for schools.
This episode covers the value of involving furniture dealers early, allowing them to work alongside design teams to ensure alignment between educational goals and furniture needs. Brad explains how early collaboration can help districts avoid common challenges, such as misaligned bids and inconsistent quality, while also simplifying logistics through a single point of contact for delivery and installation.
Takeaways:
- Early involvement of furniture dealers
- Best practices for the procurement process
- Benefits of cooperative contracts
- Simplifying delivery and installation through a single point of contact
Brad Kiehl has been working in the educational community for public and private entities for over 25 years and is currently the Director of Educational Planning for HTK Architects. Over the course of his educational career, brad has gained experience in all phases planning, design, construction and being an owner's representative.
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Episode 206 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Are you ready to revolutionize the way your school thinks about furniture?
In our FF&E Procurement Revisionism Series, we’ll explore how integrating flexible, student-centered furniture into your classroom designs can enhance engagement and foster better learning outcomes. Plus, learn how to overcome the hurdles of traditional procurement processes to streamline the journey from concept to installation.
Episode 2 of 3: The HOW
In Episode 2 of the FF&E Procurement Revisionism Series, guest speaker Carey Upton dives into the critical steps for selecting and integrating the best furniture solutions in schools. This episode covers the essential role of "test-driving" furniture options through workshops and demo products to make well-informed choices that meet classroom needs.
Carey also highlights the importance of gathering feedback from teachers and students to ensure the selected furniture enhances learning environments effectively.
Takeaways:
- The importance of trialing furniture before making decisions
- Ensuring teacher and student buy-in
- Continuous professional development and support
- Gathering and utilizing feedback for continuous improvement
Carey Upton is the Chief Operations Officer with the Santa Monica – Malibu Unified School District where he oversees Facility Improvements, Maintenance & Operations, and Facility Use. His journey to supervising school facilities might seem unconventional having devoted the first part of his work life directing Shakespeare, teaching and managing theaters.
Carey’s broad range of experiences has led to a passion for creating engaging learning environments. Carey has overseen modernizing and building new school buildings at the sixteen schools in the district, including the Discovery Building at Santa Monica High School that was short listed for the 2022 World Architectural Festival award.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennie-scott-webber-phd-2594a912/
The FF&E Procurement Revisionism Series on the Better Learning Podcast
Episode 205 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Are you ready to revolutionize the way your school thinks about furniture?
In our FF&E Procurement Revisionism Series, we’ll explore how integrating flexible, student-centered furniture into your classroom designs can enhance engagement and foster better learning outcomes. Plus, learn how to overcome the hurdles of traditional procurement processes to streamline the journey from concept to installation.
Episode 1 of 3: The WHY
In our first episode of the series, we explore the transformative impact of considering furniture as an integral part of the learning environment. We have discussions that focus on how movement, student choice, and rapid student-owned solutions drive engagement for both students and teachers.
Takeaways:
- The role of furniture in promoting movement and flexibility
- Success stories from educators who have adopted this approach
- Early inclusion of furniture in design processes
- Challenges faced and solutions implemented
Dr. Lennie Scott-Webber is a Thought leader in the research and design of learning places and space, with a profound belief in the evidence that the design of space matters for learning outcomes, and passionate about the unanswered solutions that leave students behind in their learning.
Eliza Loyola is a former Elementary School Teacher and Principal at Austin Independent School District in Austin, Texas. She helped lead the rebuild process at the district and was an advocate for change while going through the furniture procurement process during the renovation project.
Follow Dr. Lennie Scott-Webber on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennie-scott-webber-phd-2594a912/
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eliza-loyola-0702541b0/
The FF&E Procurement Revisionism Series on the Better Learning Podcast
Episode 204 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
At this year’s LearningSCAPES conference in Portland, our team at the Better Learning Podcast had the incredible opportunity to sit down with a diverse group of educators, architects, designers, and thought leaders from across the nation. We wanted to get to the heart of what "Radically Student Centered™" means from different perspectives, so we asked all our guests two key questions:
- What does Radically Student Centered mean to you?
- How does that phrase apply to the work you do every day?
The answers we received in this compilation episode were as varied and insightful as the guests themselves, each highlighting unique ways the concept of centering students drives innovation in education.
Our guests included:
Chuck Saylors
Vice President, JM Cope Construction
Rosemary Park
Educational Planner, SMMA
Abby Dacey
Architectural Principal, Mahlum Architects
Andy Cottrill
Associate Principal, Hutteball + Oremus Architecture
Séamus Kelly
Associate Principal, Mithun
Laura Durgerian
Senior Associate, Mithun
Jeffrey Mann
Facilities Planner, Bethel School District
Brian Parker
Vice President / K12 Director, MHTN Architects
Tina McKone
Project Manager, DLR Group
Meredith Watassek
Senior Educational Planner, Stantec Architect
Irene Nigaglioni
President, IN2 Architecture, Inc.
Andy L'Esperance
Director of School Projects, Goode Van Slyke Architecture
Sean O'Donnell
Principal + K12 Practice Area Leader, Perkins Eastman
Wayne Reynaud
Principal / Texas K-12 Practice Leader, HKS, Inc.
Sarah Knize
Associate Principal, Ratcliff
Leonardo Gonzalez Sangri
Global Practice Director for Education, HKS, Inc.
Ken Crawford
Executive Director of Support Services and Athletics, Ogden City School District
Sandi Massey
Chief of Leadership and Professional Development, Houston Independent School District
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 203 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Are you a new school leader wondering how to create learning spaces that truly engage students and foster success?
In the latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, Dr. David Cupolo, principal of St. James Intermediate School, shares valuable insights on the profound impact of school design on student engagement. In his conversation with Kevin Stoller, Dr. Cupolo highlights how thoughtful learning environments can transform education and offers essential lessons for new leaders navigating this journey.
Dr. Cupolo also explores how instructional leaders can drive change by focusing on both physical spaces and the school culture. He underscores the idea that a well-designed building must be paired with a culture that prioritizes student growth and active listening. When students feel heard and supported, they thrive in environments that encourage collaboration, exploration, and a genuine sense of excitement for learning.
For new school leaders, this episode is filled with actionable tips, from the importance of understanding the "why" behind school design decisions to embracing flexibility in both space and teaching. Whether you're aiming to enhance student agency, foster collaborative learning, or simply reimagine your school's layout, this conversation provides the guidance you need to take the first steps.
Takeaways:
- Schools should be designed with the needs of students in mind.
- Creating engaging learning environments can reduce boredom and increase student success.
- Student agency is essential for effective learning.
- Research can guide the design and use of educational spaces.
- It's important to reflect on the 'why' behind educational practices.
- Building a positive school culture is as important as the physical space.
- Listening to students can provide valuable insights into their learning experiences.
- Homework often has minimal impact on student learning outcomes.
Dr. David Cupolo has 18 years of experience in educational leadership as a building principal, including eight years at a cutting-edge, non-traditional facility; I offer a blend of practical experience and academic insight. Recently, I earned a Ph.D., during which my dissertation research delved into how instructional leaders understand and engage with the concept of 'learning thrill,' utilizing a framework developed by esteemed educational researcher John Hattie. The results of my research have profound implications for the design and renovation of school facilities and classrooms, highlighting crucial conditions that facilitate learning. I have presented on the topic of flexible learning environments at various conferences, most notably at three Association for Learning Environment (A4LE) Conferences, including the 2024 Southeast Region Conference this past April.
Sound Bites:
"You can have beautiful buildings and be an ugly culture."
"Kids want to collaborate and explore."
"We need to trust kids and listen to them."
"Learning thrill can be developed in schools."
Follow David Cupolo on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-cupolo-6b4a1623/
Read David's Article Designing for Learning Thrill
Spaces4Learning Article: https://spaces4learning.com/Articles/2024/07/09/Designing-for-Learning-Thrill.aspx
Episode 202 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website
Kevin Stoller (00:07.454) It's another episode of the Better Learning Podcast. I am excited about our guests today because we talk a lot about furniture and use and we can talk about it from like the designers and from the architects and what we do supporting education from the outside. But it's always good to get the perspective of the principals and the ones that are actually like using the spaces and hearing from the teachers and the students and being able to have that lens to it. So I'm excited to bring in Dr. David Capolo.
I screwed it up, I? Did I announce it? Did I pronounce it?
David Cupolo
It's Koo-pal-o! It's all good.
Kevin Stoller
Yep, and he's a principal at St. James Intermediate School in Horry County in South Carolina. Just for the audience, because I'll give you a little behind the scenes, I'm horrible at pronunciation and making sure I do it. And whenever I get it stuck in my head, it's so hard to switch it.
David Cupolo
It's why I don't read names at award ceremonies.
Kevin Stoller
I know because I'll get it stuck and I'm afraid I'm gonna mess up and I'm not the expert of that Yeah, I'm the worst. I'm like give me a script and I'll and I'll screw it up. So yeah, but but I really wanted to talk about from your perspective of where you got to what you're talking about like the thrill and getting rid of the boredom, but I want to start really from the from the very beginning for you and I want to hear what was school like for you.
David Cupolo
So I knew how to play the game. I knew how to be successful in school. And honestly, if I had a relationship and you built curiosity and made connection with me, it was an A. If you did not, I was a B for bye-bye, that type of thing. And C for see you later. It all depended. And came from a family of engineers and I chose to go into public teaching and education, which is great. But I think I was not...
That curiosity and connection for me in learning was not built in the area of math. was just too much of that skill and drill. so, but I played it well, you know, went on to college in Version, New Hampshire, and then a few master's degree at NC State. And that's where I really learned how to learn.
Kevin Stoller (02:33.058)
So talk about that, that learning to learn. What sparked that for you?
David Cupolo
I think it was, again, professors who allowed that agency, me to have that agency and explore the interests that I had, they gave the structural framework, but you really had to go do the work yourself and, you know, find those connections and challenge you. And I think there's the principle of Goldilocks, right? You know, that Goldilocks effect. And I think that had the right enough challenge and also the right enough support, but also the right enough freedom to, you know, take my learning further.
Yeah, kind of push me.
Kevin Stoller
OK. All right. So you usually when I when I talk to administrators, school leaders in there, there's like the big transition moments. There's the first one be like making that decision. Hey, I want to go into education. And then that typically puts them in a classroom. And then there's that second moment where they're like, you know what? I think I want to be outside of the classroom. I can have a different impact as an administrator. What were those moments like for you?
David Cupolo
Yeah, so I came into education teaching alternatively. I was not certified. I was working for a lessons called which transition program in Rhode Island and the police refer to something causing trouble. They have a different a, but these kids are just needed some more guidance, right? You know, and so I found out there was a lot of jobs teaching in North Carolina. So I moved down, taught special ed.
And it was interesting, my boss at the time said, you're a middle school teacher. I won't give a recommendation for anywhere. He goes, you connect with those kids. And I did it in, you know, in that timeframe, I quickly realized I want to have a bigger impact, you know? And I realized I could, I think. The students taught me so much that I realized, wow, what they're teaching me, I need to share it and need to use to impact other kids in other classrooms. So administratively, and you always have that principle that I think says,
Hey, you should go and be an administrator. And I had a couple of those who did that and lo and behold, quickly moved into assistant principal roles. And now I'm in my, going to year 19 as a...
Kevin Stoller
19 years. That's awesome. First.
David Cupolo
Thank you. Thank you.
Kevin Stoller (04:54.062)
I mean, we're, we're record, we're recording right now at the beginning of, of August, even though it doesn't, it won't release until later, but you're getting, you're getting ready for the next round of teacher students coming through. What's going through your mind right now?
David Cupolo
So teachers come back on Thursday, you know, and again, I'm like that teacher the first night, night before the first day of school. You have those jitters, but you're excited. You know, I'm excited to see what the year can bring. At my school grades five, six. So we'll have a new group of fifth grade students coming in, you know, and get to know those students and seeing what impact we can have on them.
You know, setting that foundation and framework for I go back to the student is the most important part of this building. Without them, we would not be here. You know, and this year we're kind of kicking off and be the one, be the one, you know, and how can you be the one? I entered the school year with, you know, saying, I'm going to reflect on how can I be the person I want to work with? And then this year, so now it's kind of tying it up that we're coming back.
How can I be the one I want to work with and be the one for those students? So I'm kind of wrapping my head around those thoughts and gear up. Yeah. So is a pretty typical every year you're coming in with like a new theme and a new direction that you really want to build in throughout the culture? So, yeah, I think yes and no. I always try to tie in on what we've always done, you know, and we always revisit the vision. We always...
revisit our beliefs, you know, and going back to this is what we believe and that is it, that we can be the one for those students and all students, when I say all, A, capital L, capital L, even the kid from that neighborhood is Ken Williams to say, you know, they deserve the best and, you know, they know that and I'm an amazing staff that go in every day and give it all for those kids. But, you know, just kind of tying it all together as we keep going along and just improving.
Kevin Stoller
Right. So talk more about kind of how you got this interest and at what point did you recognize how much the learning environment was really impacting the work that you do with that idea of like school is there for the kids?
David Cupolo
Yeah. So, you know, as I moved into my career, one of my dreams was I realized I wanted to open up a new school. And, you know, that'd be a cool thing to do and actually only had was in my second year in this Horry County. I'd been a principal in North Carolina and I figured, you know, it might not come along because only been at this school I was at short period. And, you know, they selected me to open up this school which is a different design model. There was only a few others in the state but it was a state of the art facility and, you know, it's net zero net positive energy in.
It looks like a mall, literally glass walls on the inside, collaboration spaces. But there was no schools like it. You know, we visited some different models to see what it was like. And every time you go to school, you know, I want to talk to the kids. I can do the tour with the adults, you know, and I can see. And one student, I can remember the school said, said, so how does this work with the glass and everything? You know, I'm an ADHD adult. How does it work? And I said, they said, it's like the zoo effect. I said, what's that?
They said, I see you, you see me, I'm gonna do my thing. I'm like an animal in the zoo, you're watching me and I'm in my element. I said, that is awesome. I said, okay, this will work. So, but I remember, and we entered the school, we got the keys and a Friday night teachers were coming back that Monday morning and my whole staff had never ever come together. And so we hadn't even been in the building. But I remember visiting while it was dirt. I bought a hard hat, scraped up a vest and a clipboard. And I went in like I was part of the construction crew just to see, you know, this process.
And finally I figured out who I was from meetings. But, know, trying to envision what this could be for kids and what environment we could create. Because you can have beautiful buildings and be an ugly culture, right? You know, so what can we really create for kids? And every parent meeting, I would start off with schools are built for kids. You know, this is their place. This is not our place. We serve them, so it was great. And coming into the building and really trying the collaboration spaces. So our first day back with teachers, I had my people spread out in the building doing different small PD sessions to see the acoustics, to see how it worked. And with teachers, I said, you can use the collaboration spaces. I didn't say there were rules to it. But I did say is let's let kids rise to the challenge.
Kevin Stoller (09:40.014) For sure. So I just want to set the stage a little bit. So that school opened about eight years ago. So 2016 definitely because so many people that are listeners of the show are involved with the design of schools. And that was definitely on the earlier side because what you're describing is pretty much the... I don't want to say the standard. Hopefully it's at least more closely aligned with that versus the traditional model that doesn't allow that flexibility and that collaboration. So you guys are going in. How involved were you in the process or was that coming from the district level? Who was really driving that vision of saying, we're going to build this new school. Have this opportunity of a lifetime. What was that like for you?
David Cupolo
So I came on the back end and it was more of the, know, decision-making. And I really think that net positive really was a big key for the school board, you know, and the design and the potential. So I don't know the conversations that we had about what pedagogy, you know, what we could do with in the classroom. I did help pick out desks and make sure the sizes were right for what we needed and chairs. But as far as, you know, how do you use it? It wasn't there, you know, it really wasn't. And that was my experience. So kind of fumbled through it with our staff, but more or less talking to kids and seeing how teachers were using it and kids. And I remember, I remember the first teacher that sent kids out to work in the collaboration space. like, wow, how's it going?
She goes, I don't know. go, well, let's see. And I fist bumped her, you know? And then the glass, I said, it's writable. I didn't say you had to use it. I didn't say you couldn't. Said it's writable.
You know, teachers started really using it, that's the fourth, you know, the fourth teacher, second, third teacher in the room using that students love working out those problems on the glass or, you know, anchor charts on the glass. And it was just kind of working with teachers and seeing how students should respond and then conversations with students. You know, I wish I had more on the front end I could speak to. I think now I offer a whole lot more to be able to say, hey, this is this is how we evolve.
Kevin Stoller (12:04.802) Well, that's why I wanted you to go through it because that's very typical in this industry, very typical in that there was a decision made at the district level or someone on the board or somebody said, hey, we're going to go this direction. But they're not always pulling in kind of the site leaders and teacher students perspective as they're doing that. Now, as an industry, we're getting better at doing that earlier on. But your experience is like very typical where you're almost like handed a building and now saying, go figure out how to use it.
David Cupolo
Yeah, Friday night at 7:20. got the key. Teachers show up on Monday. Yeah, here you go. Yeah. So, so you definitely embraced it hearing like that. And you know, you had teachers that do, were there ones that that fought it or, or saying like, man, I just wish I had my old space back. You know, there were some, there was a couple.
And they may have realized it wasn't necessarily their fit. But I remember one teacher who is interesting because she, this school's meant for older students and not these students. And I'm like, but look, they're doing it over there. And finally, it took a little while and she embraced it. And she actually retired, but said, thank you for giving me, my last two years was so enjoyable with my kids because of the, what we have here and what we're able to do and the way the building is being used in those spaces. So that was pretty cool.
Testament for her who was, you know, it was, it was a shift. Yeah. Yeah. Which I don't blame anyone changes hard. mean, if you've been doing something for a long time, one way, and then have to shift that quickly to a different way, that that's a tough change. It really was, it really was. And, know, and I'm a, I'm a research person. I'm a research geek.
I've known John had his visible learning work for years and those in education. If you don't know him, you better know him because what he writes about and the research he has people do, it's what works in schools. So that was part of that other foundation was, know, teachers necessarily don't want to know about the research right away, but kind of bringing it in and introducing them, okay, well, here's what the research says about student discussion and the impact. And here's cooperative learning. And here's how we can use the furniture and how to tweak it and better practice and tighten it up. you know, and trying to take that learning to another deeper level.
Kevin Stoller (14:24.268) Do you mind talking through a little bit of Hattie's research? It is important for us to understand the research band because a lot of us who are supporting it, who may not come from education background, whether it's on the architecture side or on the industry supporting education, the more educated we could be, the better.
David Cupolo
Right. And I think one of my, some of my favorite conversations are people in the industry and architecture in outfitters because of that, you know. And so his, again, that research out there shows what's effective, you know, homework has little impact on student growth and academic success. Class size.
You know, we learned during COVID, might be different if you have hybrid, but you had to do some other things well for it to be impactful, right? You know, and that's the piece. have to just, you have to learn the strategies and the research behind it. But yeah, so Hay and Greg Donahue proposed a conceptual learning model, skill, thrill, which was a synthesis of that research and visible learning of what worked. And oftentimes, surface deeper transfer, right? And we're often, we know in classrooms there's surface level learning and kids aren't engaged and we sit in rows, you know, and there's that boredom piece that I found, you know, and Cornwell in 2000, it was only two years ago, the art of only two years ago and how boredom has led to what a third of high school dropouts to half, you know, that's an issue, that's a crisis, you know, and that's something we can fix and that's where design and use.
Just because you put the kit desk together doesn't mean they're going to collaborate, right? You know, you got to use it effectively, but that's that research. So I want to study what learning thrill was, you know, it seemed like it just rhymed with skill and will. And, you know, it was perfect. So nobody had studied it. So I kind of talked to South Carolina structural leaders and how do you perceive and conceptualize it? Then what does it look like? What does it sound like in the classroom? Take me to those places and describe it.
And they described these deep, engaging experiences for kids. They were collaborating. were experiencing almost student agency. They were driving their learning. The teachers were just fostering that real environment for those students. But again, inductive learning, project-based learning, and thinking about how we design and materials and use of materials and how. Because teachers, it's about time, right?
Adam and Eve's teacher said, I don't have enough time to plan for them. It's just the way it is in education. We know that. So what can we do to help those teachers design rooms and make smoother transitions and furniture that's flexible so I can just easily maneuver it so I can do this over here. But then those learning spaces for students, what are they comfortable? Where are they more comfortable in taking their learning to a deeper level and really getting that thrill experience, you know?
Kevin Stoller
Yeah. Do you mind giving some examples of like where, because the space, how much that changes, like those concrete examples, I think are the stories are always good for people to hear to be like, hey, this is a kid that maybe 10 years, you know, in your first 10 years of being a principal may have had a different experience versus now what they have in that flexible learning environment that they're in now.
David Cupolo
Sure. Yeah, I remember when we all think and it was a few weeks into the school year. And this is this really hit me this this moment. So under the stairs of cement blocks in my school and this is sprinkler system. And there's a student like to work under there. But one day he's kind of just pulling on hanging on the pole. Nothing can do. What are you doing? He goes, What do mean? I said, You're pulling on the fire thing. It's sprinkler system. I go, Do you know what happens if that breaks? And he goes, No.
I go, neither do I, but I have a feeling it has a lot of water, a big bill and fire trucks. I go, go to your room. He goes, do I have to? And I was like, my, I sound like a parent. I'm like, tell you what, go for 50 seconds, just come back. Please don't do that again. We good? He's good. I said, we fist bumped. But then I started like, wow, I need to pay more attention to this, you know, and those students. And soon as I tell you, this is my space that I feel more comfortable on the floor in the corner on that pillow. Or, you know, our media center is open space and there's different furniture. And, you know, you struggle with custodian on whose furniture it was. Well, they're putting their feet on it. I go, it's theirs. Like, you know, that's their space. This is where they're comfortable learning. And it was transferring. Those teachers are like, wow. And they rose to those occasions, you know.
I've seen students who come to that school with behavioral records. And part of that culture is that this is your place, this is your space, and it's a safe space. And it's interesting, I was having a conversation last Friday with one of my teachers, last Thursday. She talked about the desk, how each kid doesn't own that desk. Remember how we had our desk and you had your name on it? Yeah, for sure. It's not my desk, it's our area.
And I can go work with other kids in another area and students who might not sit in that row traditionally can work together with other students in that respect and that safe place and that safe space that they need. You know, and allowing them that opportunity. And I think that's the other key, you know, is that setup that we've seen from non-traditional rows to collaboration and even with the technology of sharing through Google Chromebooks and Google Docs and things of that nature. Yeah. So can you expand on that more as a principal who has gone through that process and now to a principal who may be getting ready to open a new school or a totally different space and their staff is coming back right now or they're in the process and it's going to be in the next six to 12 months?
What are those lesson learns? would be that advice that you would give to them? Because they're going to have the same things. They're going to have the teachers that are going to be like, well, what do mean the student doesn't know the space? What do you mean that, you know, like I'm not upfront and, you know, and things aren't sitting in straight rows. What are those things that you would share with others? You know, I start with the why. That's when we opened the school, I got a book for the staff to go back to our why.
And, you know, and we had our individual, why are you teaching? Because I knew teachers were gonna struggle. knew just because you got the keys doesn't mean it's complete, right? Let's be honest, there's still gonna be work being done. And those can interfere and things out the air conditioning, right? It's just gonna get adjusted. And those are things that matter to teachers, you know, and all the pressure on teachers now. So really looking at the why and the student and then what can you do for the student? because everybody in education to help kids to work with kids and help kids be successful. I think that's the first piece is trying to build that collective vision. I started with the collective teacher efficacy has the biggest research effect size on student achievement, 1.36.
And coming together really looking at involving teachers in that process. then setting up some structures, you gotta have some structures, but don't be completely tied to them because you're going to get to know the environment and allow teachers to mess up, allow kids to mess up.
Kevin Stoller
Yeah, which we all know is the best way to learn, but we struggle. want to step in. Well, that's good. mean, are there, as somebody who values research and is constantly looking at that, what research do you wish would be done at this point? What would be really helpful for you, or what are the questions that you would wanna try to answer?
David Cupolo
You know, I talk to kids a lot and you know, it's one of the tough parts for researchers is doing research, talking to students, right? Because that's that big, you know, there's always those epic things in there and you know, I started with the check-in system with the company in Australia, Versha Learning. And one of the things I wanna know is what are you learning today? Ask kids, what are they learning? Yeah, you your kid at home, what'd you learn today? Nothing.
Or this, well, I know what you did, you know, but what are you really learning? And I found that, you know, students couldn't really articulate. And then teachers like, well, you talked to so-and-so, of course they couldn't tell you. Well, I don't know that that was the answer, you know. So we started looking at that. And one of the things we found is students were bored, but they also weren't clear about what their learning was. But they also wanted discussion. They wanted to talk to their parents and they wanted to collaborate.
You know, they were telling us what they wanted through that check-in. John Hattie actually, it's a quote that says on their site, it's the best classroom data I've ever seen. You know, and really I would love to learn more about students, what leads to thrill for them and how they experience that learning because it's not often. You know, go to watch schools when it gets out of high school practice, right?
Kids are practicing skills, they're acquiring skills, they're consolidating it, they're adding, they're learning, they're dispositions, persevering, and then there's that thrill. And we see in band when they get to perform in chorus, and very rarely do we get to see in those academic classrooms, but it can't exist, and that's what I've kind of studied. But I wanna know more from students of what can we do to help you, what can the environment do to help you? What do you need more of? We kind of know some of it, like I said, from that check-in. And it was, we want to be able to have more discussion. We want to be able to ask more questions. We want to be able to explore. We want to be able to collaborate. So those things, I would love to delve more into that research and study the environment they're in.
Kevin Stoller
Yeah. What does your gut tell you if you're going to have a hypothesis on that of saying, you know what I think this would work or this would be a benefit?
David Cupolo
I think those flexible environments and collaborative spaces where students feel safe and they feel valued and they have agency and when you give them opportunities for curiosity and connections to each other, I think that they're gonna say, that's what I want, that's what I need. And that's the world of today, honestly.
Unfortunately, as you see the research, you go through school and by the time you become a senior, you're very little engaged and it's scary. I know. And you can be like, we can all be engaged in something and it can be low level too, right? I've been engaged, but that's really tasks. I'm just completing a task. I'm not really into it, part of it's a curricular issue on the educator side. That's part of that stack curriculum. We got those tests and all of those things, and I'm not saying there's not some value there. But our learning is not going deep enough and we need to be able to transfer that learning.
Kevin Stoller (26:24.782) I think you're right. I mean, my experience would be the same that if I was going to say like, maybe there's not perfect research that shows it this way, but my gut and from what I've seen from being around this enough and just knowing kids and watching it, is.
Right, they do. They want the agency. They want to be able to collaborate. They want to work with their peers. They want to have meaningful projects. that, yeah, and that for me is always the hard part because I'm the one that wants to challenge the status quo and be like, well, if you know that, why don't we start doing that? Like, what's preventing us from doing that? And I get it. There are a lot of limitations of what we can do without having the data and without having, you know, like the laws and all the legal and all the things that are coming down from state level and district level. But my gut is with you on that too, is that if we actually listen to the kids, they know what they want.
David Cupolo
Yeah. they do. They do. And I was glad I had a professor said study thrill, nobody studied it, because that's tough to do a dissertation when there's no prior research you know, on that one topic. But I was, I really knew I was onto something there. So, you know, developing a framework for instructional leaders and how to, how can we work with teachers to increase learning thrill, you know, that's kind of still tweaking it. Because I believe it can be done even in the status quo, but we do have to push those understandings, you know, and trust kids.
Cause they don't respond right. You know, and they're to mess up. We all did. Yeah. And that's probably the best thing for him is to mess up. Right. I sat in the principal's office a couple of times in my life. It's nothing wrong with that.
Kevin Stoller (28:46.284)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so are you, so as far as like studying thrill, like, and do, so are you actively engaged in that? Like what? Cause I talk through like what your journey has been around this concept of thrill and education.
David Cupolo
So right now, know, finalizing my dissertation and kind of working with, again, virtual learning. Phil Stubbs is my thought partner. Shout out to Phil. He's with Virtual Learning. He's a brilliant mind, and kind of really fine tuning a framework for instructional leaders to kind of look at those things. Inductive learning. So what does the environment look like? Teacher authority. They've got to... to clarify Ed, that they're really tweaking right now that's coming out. And it's been a great journey that'll give teachers back time and make things more clear for students, but also look at a learning progression. So it's kind of like expert to Jedi, you know? So students can see this is where I need to head with my learning. And if I want to be a thrill and I want to be a transfer, this is where it's at. But then how could...
giving them the opportunity to say, is how I can show and meet success criteria. Instead of just answering questions on a test, show me how you can, this is the level, show me that you were at that level. And that was a neat piece. When kids could articulate with three points of what they were learning and where they were going, then they had 68 % more positive emotions responses, just in that one factor.
So I worked with my staff on that and we found, wow, the boredom, you when you look those wordles, bored got smaller and smaller and smaller and excited and enthusiastic, you know, and anxious reduced, you know, there wasn't that cognitive overload that kids feel. So there's a lot there that we're, you know, working on writing and getting out there, trying to share that message and do some presentations and
All those things.
Kevin Stoller
Yeah, very cool. Yeah. Well, that people need to hear it. Yeah. People need to be able to do that. So yeah, thank you for doing that work. I want to hear it before we wrap up here. I want to hear. The eight year journey into the new facility, what, what are the things that you have changed or like if you did it over again, you wish you, it would, the building would be different or the learning environment be different for those people who are going through it right now because that's obviously one of the big benefits of of education is we're so willing to share and help people so that the next project is always better for the first for the kids and the teachers in the future.
David Cupolo
So, you know, for me, it was interesting right now the struggle is furniture. So we have these, you know, funky shaped collaboration tables for kids can sit at and I've grouped teachers that would prefer those in their classroom than the desks that connect together, just basically the four desks that have cool little shapes that connect together. They want these tables. And I'm just, they say it's more functional, more space in my room to maneuver. It's still not their desk. It's our table in that mindset. That's something to look at, you know, because they really believe it's helped their classroom.
And I think just kind of look into the spaces and how do you use them and what structure do you provide kids for? It's for this use, know, using it understood that it's for learning, that it's not just, you know, hanging out. And kids did a great job with that, but that's just a little suggestion, you know, keep in mind, and this is our space for this and really having to understand this is where you apply yourself. This is where, you know, your collaborative place.
This is for your discussion. You know, because we didn't have that, you know, campfires was not a word when I came out, you know, we did cooperative learning structures. I think that's a great training to have Cagan cooperative learning structures because it really tightens up how to, so kids can't hide in those environments still, because that's another piece we don't want to, we don't, and I don't mean physically hide, but I do, you know, educationally hide. I was good at that.
I could sit in the back right corner last seat if I could and just, you know, kind of do my thing and then do what I needed to do, get out of class. But I think, you know, my best advice, have a plan, have a vision, have a group of people, your people who you believe will be the key people to really move that transition and look at the space. And I would love to visit schools and say, hey, this is your space. This is how it worked for us. This is how it didn't. This the space that was designed in the school that we don't use that I wish was something else, right? And that's the architecture side. When I was going through my Ed specialist degree, because I didn't understand how architects design schools. So part of my internship hours were with the architecture, because I want to know why did you do that? Why did you put this there? Then, know, look, those transitions, that's going to be an issue right here. Student transitions, that's, you you need to think about that because this crossway, cross paths, that's something else I would say, and look at your schedule and look at where kids are maneuvering based on the design.
We have, criss cross applesauce traffic, you know, and it can be kids and kids, you know, we don't necessarily want to apply it, but we just want, you know, get where you need to be hugging, go hug and go, hug and go, especially after COVID.
Kevin Stoller
Yeah. Yep. For sure. Yep. Yeah. And whether it is that way finding or something on the floors to help guide that traffic flow. Cool. Well, thanks for doing that. Thanks for sharing that. Anything else that I should be asking you that I haven't asked you about that you think would be useful for our audience?
David Cupolo
You know, I just think having educators and principals at the table, I don't know the conversation that had. It seems like it's getting better, but understanding pedagogy, understand research. I've presented in a couple of AFRL conferences and, you know, I enjoy it and was, you know, sharing the research and the pedagogy to understand this is how it's used in the classroom. This is how the teacher will use it. And this is why, and this is the research says this is effective. You know, I think that that knowledge would be beneficial. Okay. This is why we want students to discuss. This is why we want cooperative learning. This is the impact it has. You know, and one of the activities I do is I put up some of the effects, things that impact learning can be have a strong effect or very little. And it's always interesting that items that come up like homework, that very little impact, but we all hop on our kids about it. Like you got to tell them it really doesn't have impact, you know, unless it's really taking learn further, you know?
The things that are like, we've heard this research for so long and we know it, but man, I can tell you from like the parent experience, our schools are not learning that they keep sending the homework home and it's still like that nightly battle of, then I'm sitting here knowing this research that the homework really doesn't matter. I live it. Yeah. Yeah. I live into my house, you know, and now we know more about digitalized content and personalized learning, which is better. I think research will help tweak that homework. In fact, says a little bit more.
you know, because it's more meaningful to students if it's used the right way. They understand this is where you fill in your gap and this is how it's going to benefit you. But yeah, no, that's frustrating to know. We know the right stuff and we still struggle getting it in place. Yeah. Well, I just heard a story of Chick-fil-A how, and seems like recently they've dropped this, at least once by us, but they used to have, you knew if you went to a Chick-fil-A,
And they would say, may I serve you today? And you knew that was the way. And they ask them, how long did it take to get that idea, that simple line of having everyone ask about that? my pleasure. I think it was the end of it was when they say, pleasure. Instead of saying thank you or yeah, they'll say, my pleasure. How long did it take to get everyone in the organization to do that? Guess how long they said it took them?
Six years. Six years to get like everyone to just say that one my pleasure, like just to answer like, that my pleasure. And it's a reminder of like how long it takes to get even simple changes all the way through a system. And yeah, to so to do it, we may know the research, but man, it takes a little time, unfortunately, as much as we want to try to have that urgency to say like, Hey, this kid only goes through school one time. Let's try to it right for them.
Kevin Stoller (38:12.632) Well, that's, know, and for me, it's gentle constant pressure because compliance, you know, I'm one of those, the status quo doesn't always work for me.
David Cupolo
And, but that gentle constant pressure of what works, you know, hey, try this, try this, you know, it takes hold, but it takes time. You got to have that patience to realize, you know, and organizations go through those challenges, you know, and you kind of peak excitement and then dip down and then, all right, let's get back on track again, you know, but it does it. didn't think six years though. been my pleasure. That's a long time. Two words. right.
Kevin Stoller
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In the latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller dives into a thought-provoking discussion with experts Bruce Levine, Sean O'Donnell, and Heather Jauregui on the profound connection between education and design. The episode unpacks how collaboration between architects and educators can reshape school environments, positively influencing student outcomes and community engagement.
Takeaways:
- Education policy and design can significantly impact student outcomes.
- Collaboration between architects and educators is essential for effective school design.
- Indoor environmental quality (IEQ) plays a crucial role in student comfort and performance.
- Modernized schools positively influence community perception and engagement.
- Investment in school facilities is an investment in the future of communities.
- Research supports the connection between school design and educational outcomes.
- Schools should be designed to be inviting and supportive learning environments.
- Advocating for funding is critical to improving educational facilities.
Bruce Levine, J.D., from Drexel University, highlights the role of education policy and design in shaping the future of communities. Sean O'Donnell, of Perkins Eastman, sees schools as the heart of community life, advocating for the integration of civic architecture with sustainable, high-performing design. Heather Jauregui adds to the conversation with her passion for sustainability, emphasizing how the wellness of students and the planet are intertwined in the design of resilient schools.
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In the milestone 200th episode of the Better Learning Podcast, special host Kevin Foote sits down with Dr. Andi Fourlis, superintendent of Mesa Public Schools, to dive into a conversation about innovation in education. As the leader of Arizona's largest school district, Dr. Fourlis shares her unique journey from classroom teacher to educational leadership and how her passion for teaching has shaped her vision for transforming student learning experiences.
The centerpiece of their discussion revolves around Mesa Public Schools' groundbreaking team teaching model, an approach designed to leverage shared expertise among educators. This model fosters a sense of belonging among students, enhances student engagement, and has proven effective in improving teacher retention—a growing challenge in education today. Dr. Fourlis and Kevin also explore the role of collaborative learning spaces and partnerships, particularly with Arizona State University, in making these educational innovations possible.
Takeaways:
- Team teaching allows for shared expertise among educators.
- Collaborative learning spaces enhance the team teaching experience.
- Personalized learning is essential for student engagement.
- Partnerships with universities can drive educational innovation.
- Redesigning working conditions is crucial to retain teachers.
- The future of education relies on collaboration and flexibility.
Andi Fourlis is the superintendent at Mesa Public Schools. Her career began in 1992 as a teacher in the Washington Elementary School District in Phoenix. She joined the Scottsdale Unified School District in 1996, where she spent 19 years as a teacher, director, executive director and assistant superintendent. In 2015 she joined the Arizona Science Center as the chief learning officer. In 2017, she joined Mesa Public Schools as the assistant superintendent of teaching and learning and later served as deputy superintendent.
Andi Fourlis has received numerous awards, including the Horace Mann Ruler of the Month Award in 2019, the Kathy Hunt-Ullock Award for Middle Level Advocacy in 2013, and Teacher of the Year Award at Royal Palm Middle School in 1994. She is a graduate of Valley Leadership Institute Class 38 (2017).
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Episode 200 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Kevin Stoller (00:01.288) Welcome back to the better learning podcast. My name is Kevin Stoller I'm the normal host of the show, but we have another Kevin Kevin foot who's gonna be stepping in and Leading the conversation with dr. Andy for lists She is the superintendent of Mesa Public Schools the largest district in Arizona and I'm bummed that I wasn't part of this conversation I was really looking forward to it. But as you listen to the episode they talk a lot about their team Teaching approach had they've been doing in conjunction with Arizona State University. So it's really fascinating. So listen in. I hope you learn a lot from this and here you get to hear Kevin Foote and Dr. Andy Forless.
Kevin Foote (00:46.85) Hello, how are you? Good, how are you? I'm a different Kevin.
Dr. Andi Fourlis
That is just grand, no troubles at all. So I'm Andy Forlund, Superintendent in Mesa Public Schools. I am an Arizona native. I began my educational career in Mesa Public Schools at Lowell Elementary. I'm starting kindergarten at Lowell. And I became a teacher because I loved to play school ever since I was a little girl.
I was trying to arrange and rearrange, whether it was stuffed animals, my brother, the neighborhood kids, I was always organizing them into some type of a classroom. And so I spent fond memories of being a toddler and then growing up always playing school.
I got super excited about going to kindergarten and I planned for my first day of kindergarten for a very long time from what I was going to wear to what my lunchbox was going to look like, what my backpack would look like and so on. So my mom took me to kindergarten and off I went and she picked me up at the end of the day. So excited to hear about, my gosh, Andi, how was your first day of school? You've been waiting this for so long. Well, I started crying. I pitched a fit in the car. I said it was the worst day of my life.
And I remember her face was just blank. Like, how could this be the worst day of your life? And mom, you did not tell me that I was not going to be the teacher today. So I went to school and I was four. I was turning five in December. I went to school to kindergarten as a fourth as a four year old. Yeah. I was going for one reason. That was to be the teacher.
I have had this idea that I was going to be a teacher because I always wanted to arrange people and things so that they can learn. And so as long as I can remember, I was always going to be a teacher in the back of my mind. Then I went to school, so I'll answer another one of the questions. So school for me was, it was a great place. I learned quickly. I had lots of questions. I kept thinking about how it could be different, how it should be different.
And as I went through school, I never raised my hand. And when people ask me, Andi, what do you want to be when you grow up? I never said a teacher. kept thinking, I don't want to do it like this. I want to do it differently. And it wasn't until I had the opportunity to take some college courses that like an introduction to education, I thought, OK, this is what I'm going to do with my life. I can't way that it currently is.
I don't have to live in the status quo. So I've always had one goal and I've always been in the service industry. I was a waitress all through high school and college to pay my way through college. And I realized that serving other people was something that I was good at and that it contributed to a better life for me and others.
Kevin Foote
I love it. I love it. Very, very similar backgrounds, you and I. I'm not going to get into mine, but very, very similar. I was one of those weird ones that always knew I wanted to be a teacher. So what got you into administration, whether it was principal or eventually now in superintendency, what was your guiding light for that?
Dr. Andi Fourlis
Well, I will tell you that I never thought that I would ever leave my classroom.
I taught third grade, sixth grade, seventh grade, and then eighth grade. And it was a sixth grade classroom that I had district leaders come into my classroom and ask me if I was interested in mentoring other teachers. And I said, sure, I've always mentored other teachers. They said, yeah, but this would be a full time job where you step out of your classroom and for maybe three years or so work in our new teacher induction model and bring in our new secondary teachers. And really get that complemented to strong instructional practices and so on.
I said, interesting. Okay, I could do that for a little bit. And then I never went back. So that was in 2000. And so here we are, 24 years later, I've not gone back into a classroom. I still have samples of student work that I'm ready to use someday. But I've back. So it was a tap on the shoulder to move into teacher leadership. And my journey has been through teacher leadership. I've never been a building principal or assistant principal.
My journey was being an instructional coach and then to a director of professional learning and a director of recruitment.
Kevin Foote
That's great. That's an interesting path. That's very unique compared to general superintendents. They've usually gone the principal path. So that's a very interesting path like that.
So I've done some research into it. I've actually...you know, we've designed some schools and stuff within the ASU model of the team teaching and everything. And I wanted you to talk some more about that. I was able to listen to another podcast you were on and I've just, I loved it. Loved it. I was like, guys, this is right. I love hearing about this.
Dr. Andi Fourlis
Okay. Yeah. So, you know, I would say like, I'm sorry to be redundant, but I know you probably love talking about it.
And this is a, you know, maybe a bigger, different audience. So, if this is, you know, maybe architects or designers or somebody maybe in my industry on that end could hear more about what the team teaching model is for, like, for me, I'm all about it I was in the classroom. Maybe somebody who's never really been in the classroom. What does that look like?
So when we think about our experiences in schools and being a one-on-one school is that people usually identify by saying, well, this was my third grade teacher. Well, my fifth grade teacher had the most impact on me. My seventh grade English teacher had an impact on me. That is the typical experience that most students have in American public school system.
When we think about team teaching is when you start students start to identify this is the team of teachers that I am working with and it is beyond the one teacher one classroom model. Then the majority of my career I had the great benefit of working on a team. I was not just one teacher trying to serve all of my children. I was always on a team. I started in third grade and that was a team taught class and I did my teaching and then taught there.
And then I moved into, there was a couple of years at the very beginning that I was a one teacher in one classroom. And I was a middle school team. And then when I moved to the Scottsdale Unified School District, I was also in a three person team, sharing a roster of 150 students. And we were co-designing deeper and more personalized learning. Those are all fancy words I have now, but I would have never been able to use.
1896 is when I started this work. School teaching is when there are a group of adults, teachers sharing their expertise to co-design instruction for a common roster of children that they serve. So, the public schools, our definition of a team is at least two teachers sharing a roster of students designing learning outcomes for them.
Kevin Foote
Awesome. Now, just piggybacking on that, are there...How rare is this in Arizona? Are there other districts that are doing this? Did you get the model from, I know ASU, Arizona State's kind of guiding it, but did you get to see any other districts in action that are doing this?
Dr. Andi Fourlis
So yeah, there are other districts that are implementing team teaching. And like I said, my own career, I started in 1991 and thinking about what we knew about middle school, adolescent design.
It was, middle schools were based on teams of teachers bringing their academic knowledge, working with other teachers to serve children. So this is not a model that's new at all. In fact, team teaching, we can go back into our history books and look at even our former superintendent, Dr. Jim Saharis talking about team teaching in the 1970s. So this is not a new concept. What's new about team teaching today, is that we are using it in an environment of high levels of accountability. Because I believe that we started moving to the one teacher one classroom under the era of No Child Left Behind.
No Child Left Behind talked about things like the highly qualified teacher, the appropriately certified teacher. And when it started breaking down classrooms by certification of who was highly certified to teach these students, and we had such a focus on that that we really aligned one teacher to typically a class of 25 to 30 students. And so No Child Left Behind came in with high levels of accountability to the teacher. And so team teaching, any type of collaboration, I believe, started to fall to the wayside.
Kevin Foote
Yeah. OK. And I love what you talked about there where it's taken it from that middle school model or the junior high model where that's essentially what you're doing. And why can't we do top down with that? I love that. It's so important to talk about when we talk about the next education workforce teaming model, it is more than just a team of teachers. When we're truly talking about teaming, we are opening up learning opportunities for students by bringing in community partners, by community educators, rethinking the role of an instructional assistant.
Even in today's world, here we are in 2024, rethinking the role of technology on a team. What role does this piece of technology play in integrating into the learning needs of students?
Dr. Andi Fourlis
So it's taking all of your resources and arranging for learning for students and it is beyond the scope of just the certified teachers in that classroom. It's wrapping adults around the needs of children.
Kevin Foote
Yes. I love that. And you you could see creating a strong workforce that knows how to work with, let's say, different types of bosses and all the varying learning styles and teaching styles that go along with, you know, I'm sure somebody in their career at some point were like, there's a boss that I just didn't work well with or I really like working for him or her and things like that. So I think this is a good start to that to get them to understand it at a young age.
How do you function within, how does this team teaching model function within like the learning environment, like the actual spaces? Can you explain how Mesa's done it or if you've seen another district, like how do they make it work with if you do have a space that's been designed and furnished for that and everything, and then a space that's not, how do they make that work? I'd love to hear both sides of it.
Dr. Andi Fourlis
So collaborative learning spaces are very important for teaming. And I will tell you that we have intentionally designed spaces for collaboration for teaming in Mesa Public Schools. And we also have teaming that is alive and well their physical design is not super conducive, but they make it work.
So I'll give you another example. At Westwood High School, all ninth and 10th graders are on teams, and those are bigger kids, and they need bigger spaces. And so we have some potentially designed space where walls have come down. They've got movable chalkboards, whiteboards throughout the room.
So kids are working on different projects. They're in and out of this collaborative space. At Stevenson Elementary, every child is on a team and they are beginning in first grade as a multi-grade team. And so the doors between classrooms are able to be opened. They look just like they're very large doors with the glass in between them and they- Storefront, if you will.
So students are moving from classroom to classroom within a pod. never walk outside. They are all inside the building between classes. We have others that students have to walk outside to the classroom next door. So there's lots of different ways. And but what is most important is not that we're just moving kids, but what is the purpose and the intent behind the movement? And that needs to be artfully designed.
We are moving kids around to get what they need to improve their learning outcome. So sometimes they need additional English language arts time. Sometimes they need more mathematics time. Sometimes they're going into innovation space because they're working in a project. And so they, at Stevenson Elementary, all students set their own intentions and learning targets for the day and then monitor those and then build their schedule with the guidance of the adults around what their game will look like. And so they have to be able to move.
Kevin Foote
Okay, I love that.
Dr. Andi Fourlis
That's one very last thing, have to be able to move. I love getting them up and moving. I'd also like to add that it's really important for our teams to build a community of learners. And so when the majority of our teaming models, at the beginning of the day, the entire grade level or grade bands at three, four, for example, at Stevenson, they meet in the morning for what they call family time. They all come together. Other schools, it might just be the entire third grade. They come together in the morning and they check the health and wellness of the community. That's what they do, but then they move on. At Stevenson, we have larger groups of children.
So another added feature is that we have audio enhancement. So all of the teachers use microphones and they're in the classroom. And that's been a modification so that all children can learn even in a large space.
Kevin Foote
That's great. I love that. I love that. what successes have you seen? And again, this is kind of like a two-part. What successes have you seen academically as well as socially? Because there's so many I want to hear from you firsthand. What successes have you seen in both those aspects?
Dr. Andi Fourlis
So we have what our strongest indicators are around students have a sense of belonging. So they know where they belong, have an identity and they have more than one adult that they can connect with every single day. So while you might be assigned to Mrs. Smith and in third grade and teacher one classroom model, you and Mrs. Smith may not see eye to eye on things.
And so in our teaming model, students have a lot of opportunity to connect with the expertise of multiple adults, including their teachers. So there's higher level of sense of belonging and confidence amongst our students that are in teams.
The other is that what we're paying attention to building their confidence and efficacy for how they can be self-directed learners, those early on indicators are that they're feeling more confident. And being self-directed, when we take a look at our teachers, their retention rates are higher and their job satisfaction is higher in the team. Because it's always nice to know that we're in this together, right? I don't just go in and say, 28 students and me, let's go do this. We're all in this together. And it's a lot of co-planning and it's using expertise. We have teachers that have a background and are really great in math instruction. They take the lead on planning and designing mathematics lessons and design. The same reading specialist on a team taking the lead for that particular team. So they're sharing their expertise. And we often see that if a teacher is going to be out, need the substitute for a doctor's appointment or something on a team, oftentimes they don't even get a substitute or the substance provides just, you know, like supervision and support so the kids don't miss a beat.
So we're also seeing learning outcomes are increasing. They've been paying attention to reading. So they are outpacing their peers in literacy development. And in our high schools, we're paying attention to Algebra 1 for our ninth grade. And we're seeing that students on teams are outperforming our students who are not on teams in Algebra 1.
Kevin Foote (18:50.83)
Love it. Awesome. Something that I heard you say in a previous quote you made was that you're looking to create more personalized learning. And that's like the one thing that jumped out at me because I remember when I was in the classroom, that was always my goal is for all, know, sometimes I had 32 third graders or whatever, know, but that was a big class, but, you 25 to 30 kids, try to know something about all of them, like what makes each of them tick and feel like having that team teaching models makes that so much easier.
You started teaching a little before me, like differentiated learning was the buzzword at the time. And so when I heard you say personalized, I'm like, I think that goes a little further. I love to hear that. So I don't if you want to elaborate on that a little much. That's just something I wanted to say. I thought it was pretty awesome.
Dr. Andi Fourlis
We know the research around differentiated instruction that we differentiate by process product, right? And for learning, but within our kids are so different and we have an incredibly diverse community. So we need to make sure that not only is it differentiated, that instruction is differentiated, but it is also personalized where we are building, students have agency that they are building the what's in it for them in their learning.
That takes it a little bit deeper than differentiation, because usually you differentiate for groups of kids. You look at personalization... it's a sliver of the solid research on why we differentiate. But this is saying that kids are setting their own goals. They're mastering their own goals. Elementary is very foundational. And English language arts, mathematics, and science, and social science. When we get into high school, that also looks at what is their career and college path that is personalized to them. It's not just the typical subject areas. It's like, no, I am on a path. I know that I want to pursue a degree in engineering. So my path is going to be different and I need to be engaged in an agent of my own learning towards that pathway.
Kevin Foote
I think it's a perfect piggyback on the next thing. what's something you think that, or a couple of things that Arizona State's helped with? How do you think we can help work with future teachers on this, specifically college of ed students at our major universities, things like that? Are there some tips you'd have for them? And then also how is Arizona State help with that?
Dr. Andi Fourlis
Well, what has been so helpful for us in our partnership with Arizona State University is the way that I think about our relationship is that ASU is the innovative university, a research-run university, and we are the laboratory to try those ideas, collect information, talk about what's working with boots on the ground and how they're constantly working together to make adaptations based on research and then based on implementation. And so to me, that's perfect model.
The other is that Arizona State University is keeping this conversation alive beyond Mesa Public Schools.
We have a crisis across the nation and the crisis of the teacher shortage. That's one long as I mentioned that I left my classroom in 2000 to be a new teacher induction specialist to help induct new teachers and then go out and recruit new teachers. So we've been at this for 24 years that we've been trying to solve a teacher. I think it's time that we're done admiring this problem and really digging down into why are teachers not choosing teaching?
And especially in 2024, it's because the teaching job is incredibly isolating and it's inflexible. So if we can build some collaboration and flexibility into the teaching profession, that is one step closer to solving the teacher shortage problem. A phrase that I say, oftentimes, if teachers are not leaving the profession, they're leaving their working conditions. And working conditions is something that we can control. And so let's control what we can control and let's redesign those working conditions. And my belief is that if we do that, the theory of action is that we will chip away at the teacher shortage.
Kevin Foote (23:38.798)
Awesome. I think that I have one more question, but you just answered it was how can people who are gonna hear this podcast help? And what are recommendations on what others do? But I feel like you nailed it in the head before I even got there.
Dr. Andi Fourlis
And I think the other thing is that what can ASU do with those that are choosing the teaching profession? Designing their instruction and the experiences that free service teachers have. If free service teachers are coming in and working and learning in isolation. That doesn't set them up for success when they come into our school district with teaming model. So what I really appreciate around our relationship is Dr. Basile and I are constantly calibrating. What are we doing in classrooms in Mesa Public Schools? And how does that trigger pre-service learning and vice versa?
Kevin Foote
Nice. I love it. love it. Well, thank you for your time today. I don't want to keep you too much longer.
I think we'll just go ahead and wrap up here and thank you again for all you do. And that's a big job with the biggest district in Arizona. So appreciate your time.
Dr. Andi Fourlis
The joy every day. We have so much opportunity to preserve the teaching profession and to create great outcomes.
Kevin Foote
Awesome. Thank you.
Kevin Stoller (25:09.986) The views and opinions expressed on the Better Learning Podcast are those of myself as an individual and my guests and do not necessarily represent the organizations that we work for, the Association for Learning Environments, K-12, Education Leaders Organization, or Second Class Foundation.
In this insightful episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller welcomes Emmy Beeson and Jennifer Fuller to discuss the vital connection between school design and educational success. The conversation dives into the challenges schools face as they strive to innovate, as well as the pivotal role architects play in supporting educational missions. Together, they emphasize the importance of collaboration between educators, architects, and communities to create learning environments that truly enhance student engagement and foster creativity.
The episode sheds light on how architecture can—and should—support a school’s curriculum and mission, with both Beeson and Fuller sharing their perspectives on aligning design with educational goals. They also highlight the significance of involving the entire school community in the design process, ensuring that spaces reflect the needs of students and educators alike.
Takeaways:
- The goal is to provide every child with the best opportunity to succeed.
- Personal experiences in education shape future leaders.
- Rethinking school design is crucial for educational transformation.
- Shared vision is essential for successful facility planning.
- Community engagement is vital for educational success.
- Facilities should reflect the desired student experience.
- Leadership stability is important for long-term change.
Emmy supports district leaders to develop a shared vision, build capacity toward that vision, and align communication and decision making to the shared vision. She also guides district leaders on long-term implementation and systems sustainability, including succession planning. Emmy brings more than 20 years of educational experience, having served as superintendent at Ridgemont Local Schools and Tolles Career & Technical Center. She has truly lived the work she now brings to school districts around the country, offering a first-hand understanding of everyday challenges faced by leadership.
Jennifer Fuller is a principal at Fanning Howey, an architecture, interiors and engineering firm specializing in the design of learning environments. As an architect, Jenn has the drive to take on the biggest jobs and the leadership skills to help everyone perform at their highest level. Jenn’s clients love how she blends her own thought leadership with a listen-first approach to planning, engagement and design.
Sound Bites: "We want every kid to have the best opportunity." "I watched teachers come back to life."
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Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 199 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, Kevin Stoller sits down with renowned architect Raymond Bordwell to discuss their personal experiences, the art of architecture in school design, and the importance of collaboration in education. After a light-hearted chat about haircuts and podcast setups, they dive deep into Ray's career, his passion for architecture, and his journey into the field.
Ray shares key insights on integrating operational needs into school design and the significance of creating adaptable, flexible buildings that can meet future challenges. He highlights the power of asking better questions and considering different perspectives to find innovative solutions in educational spaces. Drawing from his experience in both public and private K-12 school projects globally, Ray emphasizes the importance of early collaboration between educators, architects, and furniture partners in the design process.
Ray also reflects on his 30+ years in architecture, touching on some of his successful projects and his approach to planning and programming. He encourages school leaders embarking on new construction or renovation projects to be thoughtful, surround themselves with people who understand their vision, and share success stories that demonstrate the impact of integrated design. The conversation is packed with valuable takeaways for anyone involved in school planning or design.
Takeaways:
- Consider operational needs in school design to create more efficient and adaptable spaces.
- Asking better questions can lead to innovative solutions and a deeper understanding of client needs.
- Incorporate flexibility and adaptability into building design to accommodate future changes.
- The planning and programming stages of architecture are crucial for creating a strong foundation for a project.
- Exploring different perspectives and experiences can lead to new ideas and approaches in design. Be thoughtful and surround yourself with people who understand your vision when embarking on a new school construction or renovation project.
- Involve furniture partners early in the design process to ensure integrated and functional spaces.
Ray has been a leader in planning K-12 schools around the globe for over 30 years. Before joining JCJ Architecture as the National Community Market’s Leader, he led planning and design services for public and private school campuses across the United States and around the globe; building an international reputation as the Global Market Sector Leader at two of the nation's largest architectural practices.
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Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 198 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Kay-Twelve - https://www.kay-twelve.com/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
In the latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, Alex Demczak, a former SEC quarterback turned entrepreneur, speaker, and author, joins host Kevin Stoller for an engaging conversation about the profound influence educators have on students’ lives and the importance of leadership in shaping future generations.
The episode dives deep into both personal experiences and big-picture insights, as Alex and Kevin discuss the lasting impact that teachers and coaches can have—both positive and negative. With touching anecdotes about their own school experiences, they explore how educators can build meaningful relationships with students by showing integrity and making long-term investments in their success. These reflections are a powerful reminder of the responsibility and opportunity that come with the role of an educator.
Beyond the classroom, Alex and Kevin highlight the changing landscape of K-12 education post-pandemic, providing valuable insights for parents navigating tough decisions around school choices. They explore public and private schools, homeschooling, and trade schools, as well as how the rising costs of college are reshaping the way parents think about higher education. Their conversation goes beyond academics, emphasizing the ultimate goal of raising responsible, service-oriented adults.
From the power of mentorship to the value of storytelling in education, this episode is packed with takeaways for educators, parents, and anyone interested in the future of education.
Takeaways:
- Educators have the power to make a significant impact on students' lives and should approach their role with love, service, and care.
- Building trust and investing in students on a personal level can have a lasting positive effect.
- Educators should strive to be trustworthy and demonstrate integrity in their actions.
- The teaching profession needs to be more appealing and supportive to retain talented teachers.
- The rising cost of college education and the changing landscape of higher education are influencing parents' decisions about their children's future.
- Mentorship and learning from experienced individuals in the field are valuable for personal and professional growth.
- Storytelling is a powerful tool in education, allowing for the sharing of experiences and the creation of meaningful connections.
Alex Demczak is a former SEC quarterback for the Missouri Tigers. Alex graduated with a degree in Communication and a minor in Business. Alex is a keynote speaker, entrepreneur, and author who challenges businesses, schools, and teams to maximize their impact.
He is the best-selling author of The Sale with Jon Gordon. The Sale delivers an invaluable lesson about what matters most in life and how to achieve it. The business fable teaches four lessons about integrity to create lasting success. The Sale has been endorsed by Dave Ramsey, Ed Mylett, Michael Porter Jr., Jamie Kern Lima, and others.
Alex is also the author of Thrive U. The inspirational book is a collection of stories from 100 collegiate and professional athletes from across the country. Alex has been mentored by Jon Gordon for the past 8 years and is part of his core leadership team.
Sound Bites:
"A teacher or a coach will impact more people in one year than the average person will in a lifetime."
"People just need that human connection and they need to be encouraged." "We're not trying to raise kids. We're trying to raise adults."
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Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 197 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Kay-Twelve - https://www.kay-twelve.com/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
In this insightful episode, Kevin Stoller dives deep into the world of student-centered school design with architects Laura Smyles and Emily Wright. The conversation is centered around creating inclusive learning environments that support all students, with a focus on neurodivergent learners. Laura and Emily share their personal journeys into educational architecture, emphasizing how crucial it is to address the unique sensory and movement needs of students.
By incorporating furniture experts early in the process, schools can optimize design solutions that meet the diverse needs of students, ensuring that every child has a supportive space to thrive.
Takeaways:
- Designing schools should prioritize the needs of neurodivergent students and create inclusive learning environments.
- Movement and sensory processing should be supported through the use of furniture and classroom layouts.
- Acoustics play a crucial role in creating a conducive learning environment, and reducing visual clutter is important for minimizing sensory overload.
- Spaces that provide both prospect and refuge are important for students to feel safe and regulated.
- Involving furniture experts early in the design process can lead to better outcomes and avoid budget and design issues.
Emily J. Wright is a registered architect with over 15 years of experience, an undergraduate degree in biochemistry, a background in clinical psychology, and experience teaching English abroad. Although neurotypical herself, her father, brother, husband, and their three children are neurodivergent. She believes buildings and spaces have a profound impact on our functioning and well-being.
Laura Smyles has over 12 years of experience as an Architect and Educational Planner with Grimm + Parker. As the daughter of a 25-year-long career public school teacher, she brings her unique perspective to educational design along with her direct experience of working with several school systems across the DMV. Mom to three under 5, she is especially familiar with the importance of creating an environment that improves emotional regulation - for kids and adults alike.
Follow Emily J. Wright on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-wright-69a91781/
Follow Laura Smyles on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laura-smyles-aia-well-ap-251b9945/
Learn More About Grimm + Parker Architects:
Website: https://www.grimmandparker.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 196 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Kay-Twelve - https://www.kay-twelve.com/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Empowering women in education is crucial for fostering innovation, diversity, and leadership in the field. Building up women in this sector not only enhances the quality of education but also creates a more inclusive and supportive environment for students and educators alike.
By championing women’s advancement, we ensure that diverse perspectives shape educational practices and policies, leading to richer and more equitable learning experiences.
The latest Better Learning Podcast episode focuses on the Bold Women Collective, a platform dedicated to supporting women in the education market. This collective provides a vibrant and safe community where women can connect, share experiences, and grow together. It addresses the need for a dedicated space where women can authentically engage, build meaningful relationships, and benefit from mentorship and networking opportunities.
Takeaways:
- The Bold Women Collective provides a safe and supportive community for women in the education market to connect, learn, and grow together.
- The collective serves as a catalyst for positive change, fostering diversity and equality within the education sector.
- The collective encourages mentorship and networking opportunities to support women in their personal and professional growth.
Panelists:
Carla Cummins, Kay-Twelve
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carla-cummins-01449659/
Kay-Twelve: https://www.kay-twelve.com/
Jolene Levin, K-12 Advocate and Consultant
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jolenelevin/
Darlene Akers, Akers Business Solutions
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darlene-akers-b6b2a35/
Akers Business Solutions: https://akersbusiness.com/
Dr. Deb Kerr, Superintendent at Francis Public School District
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-deb-kerr-7b2aaa19/
Francis Public School District: https://www.stfrancisschools.org/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 195 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Kay-Twelve - https://www.kay-twelve.com/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Justin Baiardo, Executive Director and Founder of Explore Academy, joins us to share the groundbreaking model of his charter school, where the focus is on offering students a truly individualized learning experience.
At Explore Academy, students are given the unique opportunity to choose from different versions of every class, allowing them to pick the teaching style that best suits their needs. This student-centered approach pairs students with teachers based on learning styles, fostering an environment where both can thrive.
What sets Explore Academy apart is its commitment to student choice and teacher creativity. As Justin explains, "The school could be around for 10,000 years and no two students would ever share the same educational pathway." This model empowers students with the autonomy to shape their education, while teachers are encouraged to innovate in their instructional methods.
Explore Academy's journey began with a high school program but has since expanded to include middle and elementary schools. The goal remains steadfast: to prepare students for college and provide them with a strong foundation in both academic and life skills. However, unlike many institutions that push for rapid expansion, Explore Academy is focused on stabilizing its current schools, ensuring quality education, and maintaining their student-centered philosophy.
Takeaways:
- Explore Academy offers different versions of every class, allowing students to choose the teaching style that works best for them.
- The school focuses on preparing students for college and providing them with a strong foundation in academic and life skills.
- The model allows teachers to be more creative and individualized in their teaching methods.
- Parents appreciate the level of individuality and choice that the school provides for their children's education. Explore Academy is focused on stabilizing their current schools and maintaining their philosophy of student-centered education.
- They prioritize offering quality education and ensuring student excellence over rapid expansion.
Justin Baiardo is the founder and executive director of Explore Academy - Albuquerque and co-founder of Explore Learning Systems. Over the past several years, he has worked to bring the beginning network of Explore Academy schools into existence while implementing a novel and innovative educational model seen nowhere else in the country.
Visit Explore Academy's Website: https://www.explore.academy/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 194 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Kay-Twelve - https://www.kay-twelve.com/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
In the latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller sits down with John Gamba, the Entrepreneur in Residence at Penn GSE, for a thought-provoking conversation about the intersection of education and entrepreneurship. John shares his rich background in the field, discussing the challenges and opportunities in bringing edtech products to market, the impact of AI in education, and the growing need for competency-based education and social-emotional learning.
Key highlights from the episode include John’s insights on the literacy crisis and the innovative strategies being employed to improve reading comprehension. The discussion also emphasizes the importance of supporting teacher well-being and resilience, tackling the mental health crisis in schools, and the ethical considerations of AI in education. Additionally, John dives into the critical elements that contribute to the success of an edtech product and the pivotal role of a founder in driving that success.
Takeaways:
- The importance of addressing the literacy crisis and finding innovative ways to improve reading comprehension in students
- The need to prioritize teacher well-being and resilience to create a more sustainable and effective teaching workforce
- The significance of addressing the mental health crisis in schools and providing support for students' well-being
- The potential of AI in education, while also considering the ethical implications and ensuring data privacy
- The key elements of successful edtech products: engagement, pedagogical alignment, and ease of adoption
John Gamba is a serial entrepreneur who has founded, funded and led several education technology ventures and non-profit programs over his 30 year career. A graduate of the University of Pennsylvania, Mr. Gamba started his career as a strategy consultant for KPMG where he performed research and published articles for NASA related to the commercial development of space. He was later recruited to serve as a senior executive at two digital marketing agencies, one of which went public in 1998.
Follow on John Gamba on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johngamba/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Johngamba7
Penn GSE Website: https://www.gse.upenn.edu/about-penn-gse/catalyst
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 193 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Kay-Twelve - https://www.kay-twelve.com/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
The COVID-19 pandemic has left a lasting impact on students, with many still grappling with significant learning losses and declining enrollment. As schools nationwide strive to help students recover, district leaders are increasingly turning to innovative school design to boost academic performance and foster student success.
In a recent episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we explored this critical topic with a special focus on how the physical environment can play a pivotal role in reversing these trends. One of the highlights of the conversation was the potential to bring on Melissa Turnbaugh as a guest in an upcoming episode. Melissa is the Partner for National Education and Innovation at PBK, the nation’s largest K-12 architectural firm, with more than 16 years of expertise in the planning, design, and management of educational facilities across the country.
PBK’s impressive track record, with over 42 years of experience and 18,000 completed projects, positions Melissa as a leading voice in the industry. She brings a wealth of knowledge on how thoughtful school design can be leveraged to address the challenges schools are currently facing, including declining enrollment trends and the need for enhanced learning environments.
Takeaways:
- School design is increasingly being used as a tool to boost academic performance and student success.
- With 42 years of experience and 18,000 projects, PBK is at the forefront of addressing national educational challenges through innovative design.
- Students continue to struggle with learning loss and declining enrollment post-pandemic.
Melissa brings more than 17 years of specialized expertise in the planning, design, and management of educational facilities for both public and private institutions. She is driven by a belief that all students should have equitable access to innovative indoor and outdoor learning environments.
With her role as the National Education and Innovation Leader, Melissa serves as a resource and advocate for research-based, student-centered, and purpose-driven learning environments. In her career she has worked on a variety of projects ranging from the youngest learners in early childcare centers to advanced academics in career and technical high schools all while building meaningful, long-term relationships with clients.
Follow on Melissa Turnbaugh on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissa-turnbaugh-59b38835
Website: https://pbk.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 192 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Changemakers Eric Sheninger and Nicki Slaugh take this episode into a deep dive into the transformative power of leadership in education. As seasoned change-makers, they discuss the critical importance of initiating and sustaining change that leads to real, tangible results in schools.
One of the most compelling parts of the discussion is their exploration of a student-centered approach. In an era where one-size-fits-all education is increasingly outdated, Eric and Nicki advocate for a system that prioritizes individual needs, fosters a culture of trust, and encourages collaboration. They share insights on how leaders can cultivate a culture where empathy and trust become the foundation for a positive school environment.
But the road to change isn’t always smooth. Eric and Nicki acknowledge the challenges of getting everyone on board with new initiatives and the tough decisions that sometimes need to be made. Yet, they offer practical advice for navigating these obstacles, stressing the importance of storytelling in showcasing the reality of what happens in schools.
Takeaways:
- Leaders need to ask the right questions and challenge conventional wisdom to initiate and sustain change in education.
- Change in education requires courage, risk-taking, and a willingness to challenge the status quo. Empathy and trust are essential elements of effective leadership.
- Not everyone will be on board with change, but it's important to create conditions that empower the majority.
- Difficult decisions may need to be made to ensure the best outcomes for students.
- Educators should tell their own stories and showcase the reality of what happens in schools.
Eric works with schools throughout the world, helping educators meet and exceed their potential to improve outcomes for learners. He is the founder and CEO of Aspire Change EDU, a collaborative consultancy designed to provide personalized support to all educational systems. Prior to this, he was a teacher and the award-winning Principal at New Milford High School. Under his leadership, his school became a globally recognized model for innovative practices. Eric oversaw the successful implementation of several sustainable change initiatives that radically transformed the learning culture at his school while increasing achievement.
Nicki Slaugh stands out as a trailblazer in the field of educational transformation. Through her efforts, she has established a school culture dedicated to customizing learning experiences for individual students, cultivating a positive atmosphere,highlighting the importance of STEM education, and purposefully integrating technology to unleash each student’s potential. As a secondary principal, Nicki’s forward-thinking leadership has transformed a conventionally structured school into one that advocates for personalized, competency-based learning, attracting nationwide attention.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"Comfort is the enemy of progress."
"Empathy, trust, those are the intangible elements of leadership."
"You will not get everyone on the bus."
"How do you create the conditions to empower the majority?"
Follow on Eric Sheninger on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esheninger/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EricCSheninger
X: https://x.com/E_Sheninger
Website: https://ericsheninger.com/
Follow on Nicki Slaugh on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicki-slaugh-a396155b/
X: https://x.com/nickiatquest
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/principal_nickislaugh/
Website: https://www.nickislaugh.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 191 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
The latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, hosted by Kevin Stoller, dives deep into the science of reading and the transformative shift in teaching methods. The conversation revolves around the history of reading instruction, highlighting the pitfalls of the balanced literacy approach and the crucial role of phonics and decoding skills.
A significant theme in this episode is the need for urgent change in literacy instruction, driven by solid evidence and the success of structured literacy approaches. The discussion also touches on the hurdles educators face when implementing new methods, often met with resistance from established systems and publishing companies.
Takeaways
- The dominant teaching method of balanced literacy has not been effective in teaching children to read.
- Phonics and decoding skills are crucial for reading success.
- Implementing change in the education system can be challenging due to various factors, including financial interests and resistance to change.
- Open and compassionate discussions are essential for moving the field of literacy forward. The shift from balanced literacy to structured literacy has been driven by the need for evidence-based practices and improved student outcomes.
- Professional development is crucial for teachers to effectively implement structured literacy instruction.
- Parents play a vital role in advocating for their children's literacy education and should trust their instincts if they feel something is not right.
- There is a need for urgency in improving literacy instruction and trying new approaches to meet the needs of all students.
Faith Borkowsky, the founder of High Five Literacy, LLC, is an internationally respected and sought-after literacy consultant, certified dyslexia practitioner, and award-winning author and speaker. She has over thirty-five years of experience in literacy instruction - as a classroom teacher, reading and learning specialist, regional literacy coach, administrator, and private tutor.
Judy Boksner has over 25 years of New York City Education experience as an educator, classroom teacher, coach, and reading specialist. Judy works with teachers and children all throughout areas in Brooklyn, the Bronx, and Greenwich Ct. She has extensive training in evidence-based methodologies such as Orton Gillingham, Wilson’s Fundations, and The Hochman Method, also known as The Writing Revolution.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"We got it wrong in a lot of ways."
"Good readers could read words in isolation."
"It was a curriculum disability rather than a learning disability."
"A lot of kids weren't making the progress that they needed, even with one-on-one instruction."
"The easy conversations where everybody's in a silo talking about the same thing, agreeing with each other every single time saying, yeah, you're right, you're right. Those aren't the kind of conversations that are actually going to shift the needle."
"When you are teaching in those upper grades, you just can't understand why kids are coming up to you not reading."
Follow on Faith Borkowsky on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/faithborkowsky/
Follow on Judy Boksner on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/judy-boksner-478b5118/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 190 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Are you passionate about education and literacy? If so, this episode of the Better Learning Podcast is a must-listen! Titled The Power of Reading Proficiency, this episode dives deep into the urgent need to improve reading skills across the United States.
Brandon Cardet-Hernandez shares his journey in education, from growing up in a group home to becoming the president of Mrs. Wordsmith. He emphasizes the importance of reading proficiency and the impact it has on a person's life. Brandon discusses his experiences as a special education teacher, working in school reform, and serving as an education advisor for Mayor Bill de Blasio.
They also discuss the confusion surrounding the science of reading and the need for a more comprehensive approach to literacy education. They explore the challenges in the current education system and the importance of personalized learning and low-stakes testing. Brandon emphasizes the need for collaboration and creative solutions to ensure every child has the opportunity to succeed in reading.
Takeaways:
- Reading proficiency is crucial for success in life, and access to reading materials and support can greatly impact a person's educational outcomes.
- Educators often enter the field to address personal experiences or to make a positive change in the education system.
- Collaboration between different stakeholders, including policymakers, schools, and families, is essential for improving education.
- The work of Mrs. Wordsmith focuses on improving reading skills through phonics, vocabulary, and explicit instruction.
- The science of reading includes phonemic awareness, phonics, fluency, and vocabulary, all of which are crucial for reading comprehension.
- School boards play a crucial role in shaping education policies and should prioritize literacy as a key focus area.
A recognized leader and changemaker, Brandon has spent his career working to reimagine the systems, structures, and tools that accelerate opportunity and close achievement gaps. Brandon previously served as the Senior Education Advisor to former New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and as the Director of Strategic Initiatives for the NYC Department of Education. A former special education teacher, Brandon has sat at the helm of two high schools, leading both institutions through transformational change.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"Half of young people in the US are reading below grade level."
"We need to be putting a level of urgency on reading and literacy because our schools are failing in this area."
"We're focused on the science of reading, which includes phonemic awareness, phonics, and explicit instruction around vocabulary."
"We need to recognize that the six hours and 20 minutes of a school day may not be sufficient for every child."
Follow on Brandon Cardet-Hernandez on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandoncardethernandez/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brandoncardet/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/BrandonCardet
Boston Public Schools Website: https://www.bostonpublicschools.org/Page/1030
Mrs. Wordsmith Website: https://mrswordsmith.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 189 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
Matt Beaudreau and Kevin Stoller have had transformative journeys through the traditional education system, ultimately leading them to create alternative, student-centered educational models. Drawing from their experiences, they emphasize the importance of fostering curiosity and engaging in meaningful conversations within the learning environment.
In their conversation, Matt and Kevin address the challenges and opportunities in the evolving education landscape. They acknowledge the high demand for alternative education options and the need for systemic change within traditional schools. Parental involvement is highlighted as a crucial component in this shift, with parents playing an active role in their children's education.
Matt shares the hurdles faced in making their programs accessible to all, advocating for a broader shift in mindset to embrace these new educational models. By focusing on the holistic development of students and the involvement of families, Matt's work represents a reimagining of education that seeks to reseed freedom in our children and nation through comprehensive family education.
Takeaways:
- The traditional education system often prioritizes playing the game of school rather than fostering genuine learning and growth.
- Alternative models like Acton Academy and Apogee focus on learner-driven education, curiosity, and good conversation.
- Parents play an active role in the educational process, and their own learning and growth are important as well.
- Finding and building communities of like-minded individuals is crucial for creating and sustaining alternative educational models.
- The traditional school system needs to change
- There is a religious affinity for the current school system that hinders change
As a Keynote Speaker, Consultant, and Coach to organizations around the world, Matt Beaudreau's clients have ranged from Wells Fargo, Honeywell, and Lockheed Martin to American Eagle, Cedars-Sinai and the United States Air Force. Matt has a reputation as a provocative thought leader in educational and personal development practices. He is a two-time featured TEDx speaker and he was named Corporate Trainer of the Year at Stanford University, having spoken to over 250,000 people across the world.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"School for me was easy because I knew how to play school."
"School has a big, giant, clunky, disgusting system that's self-perpetuating."
Follow on Matt Beaudreau on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-beaudreau-071a5b99/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattbeaudreau/
Twitter: https://x.com/MattBeaudreau
Apogee Strong Website: https://apogeestrong.com/
Apogee Strong Foundation: https://www.apogeestrongfoundation.org/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 188 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In the latest episode of The Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller sits down with Mike Cobb, the Futurist in Residence at Forsyth Country Day School and a former member of the NEOM project in Saudi Arabia. This insightful conversation delves into Mike's remarkable journey from working in independent schools in the United States to participating in the groundbreaking NEOM project.
Mike shares his transition to NEOM, a futuristic city project in Saudi Arabia, emphasizing its ambitious vision and goals. NEOM aims to revolutionize education with personalized learning experiences, cutting-edge technologies, and a strong focus on teacher-student relationships. Mike highlights the use of facial recognition, biometric feedback, AI robotics, and social robots in enhancing the educational experience.
Designed to support NEOM employees and their families, the NEOM Community School provides a unique, flexible learning environment from infancy through the 12th grade. The school focuses on building relationships and giving students agency in their education. Its spaces are designed to be flexible, incorporating natural light and blurring the boundaries between indoor and outdoor learning. Additionally, the school's scheduling is tailored to meet the needs of employees, offering extended hours and opportunities for personalized learning.
Takeaways:
- NEOM is a futuristic city project in Saudi Arabia that aims to reimagine education and create personalized pathways for students.
- Teacher-student relationships are still the most important factor for success in education, even with the use of innovative technologies.
- NEOM utilizes facial recognition, biometric feedback, AI robotics, and social robots to enhance the learning experience.
- Mike Cobb's experience in NEOM has shaped his perspective on the future of education and his role as a futurist in residence at Forsyth Country Day School. The Neom Community School in Saudi Arabia was designed to support the employees and families of Neom, starting from infants to the 12th grade.
Mike Cobb is a visionary and results-oriented educational leader with a track record of successfully steering schools towards organizational excellence. With over 34 years of experience, he has served in various roles, including accomplished classroom teacher, division head, admissions/enrollment leader, and Head of School. He is also an international speaker and has been a key education leader in the forward-looking NEOM project in Saudi Arabia.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"The relationships between the teachers and the students were still the number one indicator for success."
"We were doing some really cool things using again facial recognition, but we were also using things where we were looking at biometric feedback to look at engagement for students in class."
"We blew up the traditional 45-minute class schedule and created a dynamic schedule that allowed for authentic learning and student agency."
"Relationships are still the most important thing in education. AI can free up time for teachers to focus on building relationships."
"The Neom Community School's spaces were designed to be flexible, bringing in natural light and blurring the boundaries between indoor and outdoor learning."
Follow on Mike Cobb on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmcobb1/
Website: https://www.neom.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 187 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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Mike Beckham's story begins in the nonprofit sector, where he developed a deep understanding of mission-driven work. Transitioning to the business world, he founded Simple Modern in 2015, a company now known for its premium drinkware and lifestyle products. Beckham emphasizes that at the core of entrepreneurship lies a desire to solve problems and bring new ideas to life. He believes that entrepreneurship is a form of creativity, where individuals get paid to solve problems and create something valuable.
A key takeaway from Beckham’s journey is the significance of a growth mindset. He shares that successful entrepreneurs are experimenters who love learning and decoding what people want. This mindset, combined with the ability to understand where to apply new knowledge, is crucial for entrepreneurial success.
Beckham stresses the importance of having a clear mission and purpose from the outset. Simple Modern’s commitment to generosity, donating at least 10% of annual profits to nonprofit organizations, is a testament to this principle. He believes that building a company without knowing its mission and purpose is like trying to drive a car without knowing where you’re going.
Mike Beckham’s story is a powerful example of how a clear mission, a growth mindset, and a commitment to values can drive entrepreneurial success. His journey offers valuable lessons for anyone looking to make a difference through entrepreneurship. Tune in to the Better Learning Podcast to hear more about his inspiring journey and insights.
Takeaways:
- Entrepreneurship is driven by a belief in a vision and a desire to solve problems.
- Having a growth mindset and a love for learning are key traits of successful entrepreneurs.
- Entrepreneurship is a form of creativity, where individuals create something new and bring it to the world.
- A company can prioritize both values and purpose, creating a unique culture and giving back to the community.
- Entrepreneurs often combine different skills and experiences to find innovative solutions. Start with a clear mission and purpose in entrepreneurship
- Embrace a growth mindset and be willing to learn and grow
- Build relationships and have a clear vision before starting a business
- Transform and adapt your business model when faced with challenges
- Create a culture of generosity and giving in organizations
Regan has worked on numerous public and private K-12 learning spaces throughout the greater New England area, including Eliot Innovation School, Gibbs School, and Leicester Middle School.
She is passionate about design for education and creating spaces that are welcoming, safe, and inspiring. She is also an advocate and thought leader in restoring and preserving our historic buildings, including adapting them for new, contemporary uses.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"Entrepreneurs are first and foremost, they're kind of experimenters that love learning and love kind of decoding what's going on and what people want and how to serve people."
"Entrepreneurship is getting paid to solve problems."
"It usually starts with survival first and then we find our way."
"Having the desire to learn and the willingness to grow plus the judgment of understanding where to apply that, that's what gets you where you want to be."
"Building a company when you don't know the mission and the purpose is like building a car while you're trying to drive it without knowing where you're trying to drive."
Follow on Mike Beckham on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikebeckhamsm/
Twitter: https://x.com/mikebeckhamsm
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikebeckham/
Website: https://www.mikebeckhamblog.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 186 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
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In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we feature special guest host Clarissa Darbone and guest speaker Merri Salazar, a project manager at Pfluger Architects. This episode delves into the fascinating world of K-12 education design, highlighting the importance of being student-centered and the power of community engagement.
Merri Salazar brings a wealth of experience working in K-12 education and shares her insights on the significance of understanding the unique needs of each district. She emphasizes that the heart of her job is designing spaces that not only support but also elevate the goals of each community.
Merri passionately discusses the value of community engagement in creating successful school projects. She shares that the projects which turn out the best are those that actively seek and incorporate community input.
Takeaways:
- K-12 education design is focused on being student-centered and meeting the unique needs of each district.
- Understanding the goals and priorities of the community is crucial in creating successful school projects.
- Engaging with the community and gathering input helps ensure that school designs align with their needs and desires.
- Budget constraints can be a challenge in school projects, but creative solutions and partnerships can help overcome them.
- The mission and purpose of an architecture firm play a significant role in guiding their work and creating meaningful experiences for students.
Merri Salazar is a detail-conscious project manager who works with project teams to ensure every unique goal and objective is met. For over five years, she has been an essential part of the Pfluger team in Houston.
Her ability to visualize and communicate ideas promotes a better understanding of design intent and enhances collaboration with the client, design team, and contractor. Merri is passionate about creating spaces that uplift and inspire, making every project a meaningful experience for its users.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"Every district has a different story. I like how they talk and listen to their communities."
"The projects that turn out the best are the ones that go out and figure out what the community really wants."
Follow on Merri Salazar on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/merri-salazar-4948b544/
Website: https://www.faainc.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 185 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller engages in a riveting conversation with Regan Shields Ives, the Principal and Studio leader for educational projects at Finegold Alexander Architects. This episode delves into the nuanced world of school design, reflecting on Regan's journey and her deep commitment to creating educational spaces that foster a sense of community and support for students, teachers, and administrators.
Regan's path to becoming an architect was paved by her traditional school experiences in the 80s and 90s, where individualized learning was the norm, and collaborative opportunities were scarce. Her early fascination with building and design naturally steered her towards architecture, where she could merge her passions for education and design.
The conversation sheds light on the significant evolution in school design. Moving away from rigid, traditional structures, modern school design now emphasizes student-centered, collaborative, and personalized learning environments. Regan discusses how Finegold Alexander Architects are at the forefront of this shift, crafting spaces that encourage interaction and creativity.
Takeaways:
- The evolution of school design involves a shift towards student-centered, collaborative, and personalized learning environments.
- Community engagement is crucial in school projects, and diverse voices, including students, educators, and the community, contribute to the design process.
- The impact of technology on architecture is still evolving, with the potential for AI to play a role in design processes.
- The legacy of architectural work is reflected in the involvement of diverse voices and the community's recognition in the design of school spaces. The importance of creating educational spaces that provide a conducive environment for students to thrive.
- The role of furniture in facilitating pedagogical change and the need for early engagement with furniture dealers in the school design process.
- The emergence of new educational models and the resilience of students in diverse learning environments.
Regan has worked on numerous public and private K-12 learning spaces throughout the greater New England area, including Eliot Innovation School, Gibbs School, and Leicester Middle School.
She is passionate about design for education and creating spaces that are welcoming, safe, and inspiring. She is also an advocate and thought leader in restoring and preserving our historic buildings, including adapting them for new, contemporary uses.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"When the community sees themselves in the school and feels as though they were part of it, that's what it's about."
"It's all about the furniture."
Follow on Regan Shields Ives on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/regan-shields-ives-aia-leed-ap-aa291147/
Website: https://www.faainc.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 184 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
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Are you ready to be inspired by one of the most influential voices in leadership and education?
In our latest podcast episode, host Kevin Stoller sits down with the remarkable Jon Gordon, a best-selling author and keynote speaker whose books and talks have transformed leaders and organizations around the world. This episode is packed with valuable insights, personal stories, and practical advice that you won't want to miss.
Takeaways:
- Jon Gordon's faith journey and how it influenced his writing and speaking career
- The crucial role of school leaders in creating a positive culture and engaging the community Positive communication is essential to fill the void and create connection.
- Difficult conversations are necessary to address issues and build commitment.
- Leadership in education is challenging, requiring principled decision-making.
- Educators have a mission to make a difference in students' lives and create a positive school culture.
Jon Gordon is a best-selling author and keynote speaker whose books and talks have inspired millions of readers and audiences around the world. His principles have been embraced by numerous Fortune 500 companies, professional and college sports teams, school districts, hospitals, and non-profits.
Jon is the author of 30 books, including 16 bestsellers and 5 children's books. His work includes the timeless classic "The Energy Bus," "The Carpenter," "Training Camp," "The Power of Positive Leadership," and his latest release, "The One Truth." When he’s not traveling for speaking engagements, Jon enjoys playing pickleball and taking long walks, where he finds inspiration for his ideas.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"I felt this incredible peace come over me and writing and speaking came to me."
"The book's (The Energy Bus) been out for 17 years and I finally got an email that said, how come you put a school bus on the cover when it's actually supposed to be a city bus?"
"Where there's a void in communication, negativity will fill it."
"I truly think this is the hardest time that we've ever had for school leaders."
Follow on Jon Gordon on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jongordonenergy/
Twitter: https://x.com/JonGordon11
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jongordon11/
Website: https://jongordon.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 183 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult Catalyst @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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A Portrait of a Graduate (PoG) is a visionary framework that defines the knowledge, skills, and attributes that students should possess upon graduating from high school. This concept goes beyond traditional academic metrics and focuses on preparing students for success in the real world.
A PoG typically includes competencies such as critical thinking, communication, collaboration, creativity, and character development. It serves as a strategic tool for schools and districts to align their educational practices with the holistic development of students, ensuring they are well-equipped to meet the demands of the modern world.
Importance of a Portrait of a Graduate
- Holistic Development: It emphasizes the development of the whole child, addressing academic, social, and emotional needs.
- Future-Ready Skills: It ensures students are equipped with essential skills required for success in college, careers, and civic life.
- Community Alignment: It fosters collaboration among educators, parents, and community members to create a unified vision for student success.
- Educational Equity: It promotes equitable learning opportunities by focusing on diverse learners' strengths and needs.
In the latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller sits down with Dr. Brian Troop, the Superintendent of Ephrata Area School District in Pennsylvania. Dr. Troop, who has been at the helm since 2013, shares his extensive journey through the education system, shedding light on the evolution of educational practices, the challenges faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the future direction of public education.
The conversation delves into the necessary shift in the education system from a focus on standardized testing to fostering essential character traits and skills. Dr. Troop emphasizes the importance of preparing students for real-world challenges by developing their critical thinking, collaboration, and adaptability. This evolution is crucial for creating a more holistic educational environment that prioritizes long-term success over short-term metrics.
Takeaways:
- Education Evolution: The evolution of the education system and the shift in focus from standardized tests to character traits and skills.
- Impact of 'Most Likely to Succeed': The impact of the film 'Most Likely to Succeed' on the education system and the community's involvement in shaping the direction of education.
- COVID-19 Challenges: The challenges faced by a superintendent during the COVID-19 pandemic and the need for flexibility and adaptability in the education system. Stability and trust are crucial in education leadership, especially during times of crisis like the pandemic.
- Community Support and Governance: Community support and board governance play a significant role in shaping the direction of educational initiatives.
- Professional Learning: Professional learning and support for educators are vital for implementing new initiatives and meeting the evolving needs of students.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"We have a higher calling to prepare kids to be successful in life."
"We took advantage of the high level of trust we had prior to the pandemic."
"If we don't have stability in the leadership, then it's really hard to implement any type of change."
Follow on Brian Troop on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-troop-955b80130/
Twitter: https://x.com/drbtroop
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 182 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Catapult Catalyst @ Penn GSE - https://catapult.gse.upenn.edu/
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How did your parents influence your career decisions? Do you think their guidance helped or hindered your career path?
Were you given opportunities to explore different career options in school? How did that impact your career choices?
What do you think is more important when hiring: a candidate's educational background or their passion and skills? Why?
Do you think today's educational system adequately prepares students for the future? How can it be improved?
In the latest episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller engages in a thought-provoking conversation with Tyler Dugar, offering a unique blend of perspectives on education from both a parent's and a corporate world's viewpoint.
Reflecting on their own educational journeys, Kevin and Tyler delve into the critical mistakes they made when choosing their career paths, emphasizing the vital importance of allowing students to explore various career options and make informed decisions for themselves.
Takeaways:
- Empower Students to Explore: Students should be encouraged to investigate different career paths and have the freedom to choose what excites them the most.
- Realistic Career Views: Schools need to provide students with honest and comprehensive insights into various professions.
- Preparation for Life After High School: The focus should be on equipping students with the necessary skills and knowledge to thrive post-graduation.
- Hiring Criteria in the Modern Workplace: Companies are increasingly valuing skills, passion, and cultural fit over traditional indicators like college prestige.
- Avoiding Career Pigeonholes: It's essential to recognize and nurture the unique talents and interests of each student, rather than forcing them into predefined career paths.
- Generational Diversity: Each generation is diverse, and it's crucial to avoid broad generalizations when considering career guidance and development.
Tyler Dugar is a leader in the consumer products manufacturing industry and has had a front-row seat to the changes in new employees’ preparedness, values, and attitudes over the last twenty years. He is passionate about hiring and training in a way that enhances company culture while improving both the products brought to market and the lives of employees and their families.
With four children between 12 and 18, educational preparedness is always top of mind. Tyler lives outside of Nashville, Tennessee with his wife and children.
Sound Bites to Ponder:
"Don't necessarily do what others tell you to do. Play an active role in deciding your career path."
"Expose kids to different career options and let them decide what makes them happy."
"The focus should be on skills, passion, and cultural fit when hiring, rather than the prestige of a college."
Follow on Tyler Dugar on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-dugar-b7851ab/
Learn More About First Quality:
Website: https://www.firstquality.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 181 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
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In our last Rising Stars episode of 2023, we feature Aaron Evans - a Kay-Twelve team member that is all about being Radically Student Centered™! The episode kicks off with Aaron reflecting on his own educational journey, sharing a poignant and personal story about growing up with ADHD. As a student, Aaron faced numerous challenges within the education system, struggles that many students with ADHD can relate to. His candid discussion about these experiences serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of creating inclusive and supportive learning environments.
As the conversation unfolds, Kevin and Aaron delve into the importance of change management in education. Aaron emphasizes the critical need for supporting teachers as they navigate new learning environments, a topic that resonates deeply given the rapid changes in educational approaches over the past decade. His insights highlight the necessity of creating student-centered spaces that are adaptable and dynamic.
One of the standout themes of the episode is the emphasis on data-driven improvement. Aaron passionately discusses the importance of capturing and analyzing data to drive continuous enhancement in education. This approach is not just about collecting numbers but about making informed decisions that can lead to real, tangible improvements in the learning experience for students.
Takeaways:
- Change management is crucial in the education industry to support teachers in adapting to new learning environments.
- Capturing data and continuously improving are essential for making a real impact in education.
- The industry has made progress in creating student-centered spaces, but there are still challenges to overcome.
- School leadership plays a vital role in driving change and implementing effective strategies.
- Collaboration between educators, architects, and furniture manufacturers is key to creating successful learning environments. Strong leadership is crucial in education to guide and develop staff and students.
- The education system is shifting towards project-based learning and technology integration.
- Parents are looking for schools that prioritize character development and emotional regulation.
- The role of educators is evolving, and there is a need to rethink class size and building utilization.
- Technology will continue to have a significant impact on education, and there is a need to adapt and embrace change.
Aaron is a professional with over ten years of experience in the education industry. He lives in San Marcos, Texas, with his wife Natalie and three dogs named Bailey, Daisy and Paisley. In his free time, Aaron enjoys traveling and trying new recipes in the kitchen. He has also become an Accredited Learning Environment Planner (ALEP) through the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE).
Aaron Evans 2023 NexGen Award Winner
Nominate a Rising Star in Education 40 and Under for the 2024 NexGen Awards
Follow on Aaron Evans on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaron-evans-alep-1892ba72/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 180 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
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Are traditional schools equipped to prepare our children for a rapidly evolving world?
In the latest episode of the Better Learning podcast, Tom Woelper and John Camp delve into a fascinating conversation about the New England Innovation Academy (NIA), an independent school that's challenging the status quo of education. With backgrounds deeply rooted in both education and entrepreneurship, Woelper and Camp built NIA and are redefining the educational landscape.
NIA isn't just another school; it's a bold experiment in fostering innovation, entrepreneurship, and human-centered design. But what sets it apart from traditional models? And how does it equip students with the skills and mindset needed to thrive in an uncertain future? Discover how the school's physical space mirrors its innovative philosophy, fostering collaboration and a sense of belonging among students.
However, this journey isn't without its challenges. Woelper and Camp candidly discuss the hurdles of moving away from traditional grading systems and the impact of college admissions on education today.
With insights from over 25 years of teaching experience, Camp brings a unique perspective to the table, emphasizing the importance of teaching what cannot be Googled and fostering a culture of hard work. Meanwhile, Woelper's extensive career in independent education shines through, showcasing his dedication to reshaping the educational landscape and serving as a beacon for innovation in schools.
Takeaways
- The New England Innovation Academy is an independent school that focuses on innovation, entrepreneurship, and human-centered design.
- The school aims to prepare students for a rapidly changing world by teaching empathy and fostering an innovator and entrepreneur mindset.
- The founders of the school have backgrounds in education and entrepreneurship and wanted to create a school that was different from traditional models.
- The physical space of the school reflects its innovative approach, with open, collaborative areas and a sense of belonging and togetherness.
- The target market for the school includes families who are dissatisfied with traditional education and want a more innovative and flexible approach. Nia Innovation Academy follows a human-centered approach to education, focusing on integrated learning and project-based learning.
- The school offers flexibility in scheduling and allows for personalized learning experiences.
- NIA uses a competency-based assessment system that de-emphasizes grades and focuses on skills and competencies.
- The college admission process still heavily influences education, but colleges are showing interest in innovative approaches to learning.
- There is a need for a shift in the K-12 education system to prioritize holistic development and individual strengths rather than solely focusing on grades and college admissions.
Camp (as he goes by), has been teaching in independent schools for over 25 years. His experience includes English and writing classes as well as interdisciplinary courses such as “The Art and Physics of Time Travel.” At St. Mark’s School, which bestowed him with The Trustees Chair and the Kidder Faculty Prize, Camp served as the Director of Experiential Learning and Associate Director of The Center of Innovation in Teaching and Learning.
Tom has had a distinguished 31-year career in independent education, most recently serving as the Head of School of Far Hills Country Day School in Far Hills, New Jersey. Prior to his tenure at Far Hills, Tom served as the Assistant Head of School and Dean of Academic Life and taught history during his 14 years at The Hotchkiss School. Tom began his career in independent school education as a teaching intern at Groton School and then as a history teacher and Class Dean at The Taft School.
New England Innovation Academy
https://neiacademy.org/
Follow on Tom Woelpher on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/j-thomas-woelper-a9009717
Twitter: https://twitter.com/twoelper
Follow on Camp on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/campsm/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 179 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
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Are you curious about the future of education and how it's being shaped by innovative leaders?
In this engaging episode, host Kevin Stoller guides us through a captivating dialogue that spans Rachel's journey from her upbringing in South Carolina to her remarkable achievements as a Rising Star NexGen Award winner. But that's just the beginning.
We uncover insights into the intricate world of school finances and funding models, gaining a deeper understanding of the challenges and opportunities that shape educational equity.
But it doesn't stop there. Kevin and Rachel venture into the future of education, exploring what success means for the next generation and envisioning the evolving dynamics of learning in a rapidly changing world.
From education conferences to the intricacies of hiring an executive director, fundraising for nonprofits to the art of parenting amidst entrepreneurial endeavors, this episode offers a rich tapestry of topics that will leave you inspired and informed.
Takeaways:
- Rachel's career path has taken her from wanting to be a fashion designer to working in law and eventually becoming a school board member.
- Financing education is a complex issue, with different states and districts relying on various funding models.
- The COVID-19 pandemic has highlighted the importance of well-maintained and innovative school facilities.
- The future of education should focus on providing opportunities and removing restrictions for students, allowing them to pursue their passions and interests.
- It is important for policymakers and stakeholders to have open and honest conversations about education funding and to prioritize the needs of students. Participating in education conferences and associations can be beneficial for networking and staying connected with industry professionals.
- Hiring an executive director with experience in education leadership can be valuable for organizations like ELO.
- Fundraising for a nonprofit can be challenging, but it is important to make the ask and leverage personal networks.
- Entrepreneurship and parenting can intersect, providing valuable lessons and experiences for children.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelwisnefski/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/DrRachelWiz
Website: https://drrachelwisnefski.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 178 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
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Are you curious about the future of education and how technology is shaping the way we learn?
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we embark on a fascinating journey into the world of project-based learning (PBL) and artificial intelligence (AI) with special guest David Ross. Join us as we delve into thought-provoking questions that unravel the potential of AI to revolutionize the classroom experience.
Takeaways:
- David Ross has a background in sports writing and transitioned to become a teacher, with a focus on project-based learning (PBL).
- COVID-19 has challenged the notion that physical attendance in school is inevitable, leading to the exploration of alternative learning options.
- AI has the potential to empower teachers by saving time on administrative tasks and providing personalized learning experiences.
- Teacher training in AI and prompt engineering is crucial for effective implementation in the classroom.
- The current landscape of AI in education is still in the early stages, with a wide range of products and possibilities. AI can assist teachers in designing curriculum and writing projects for project-based learning (PBL).
- AI has the potential to upskill students and provide equitable educational opportunities, particularly for schools in economically disadvantaged areas or rural areas.
- The use of AI in various fields, such as chatbots, graphics, and video, can enhance the learning experience for students.
- Virtual reality experiences can level the playing field for students who don't have access to resources like museums or science centers.
- Anchoring projects in the local community can engage students and make learning more relevant and meaningful.
David Ross is the former Senior Director of the Buck Institute for Education (now PBLWorks), where he wrote the PBL Starter Kit and created and directed the PBL World Conference. David later worked in Washington DC as the CEO of the Partnership for 21st Century Learning, where he coordinated the bipartisan 21st Century Learning Caucus in the United States House of Representatives.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-ross-b234b9ba/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 177 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website!
Do you ever wonder how the spaces where we learn impact our educational journey?
Or how interior design intertwines with education to create environments that foster growth and engagement?
In this conversation, Nikki shares her unique journey from the halls of academia to the forefront of interior design. Drawing from her own school experiences, she illuminates how the environment can shape learning outcomes and student engagement. From there, she delves into her transition into the professional realm, emphasizing the pivotal roles of flexibility and mentorship in personal and career growth.
As Nikki and host Kevin Stoller explore various facets of education design, they shed light on the importance of continuous research and staying abreast of industry trends. Nikki's insights underscore the significance of integrating furniture and professional development into educational spaces, elevating the learning experience for all.
Takeaways
- School environments play a significant role in student engagement and learning outcomes.
- Flexibility and mentorship are crucial for personal and professional growth.
- Continual research and staying up-to-date with industry trends are essential in education design.
- Integrating furniture and professional development can enhance the learning experience. Traveling with children can be challenging, but it's important to take time for yourself and your relationship.
- Missed opportunities for travel can be disappointing, but it's never too late to fulfill your travel dreams.
- Researching and choosing the right firm can have a big impact on your career satisfaction.
Nikki Snellinger is an interior designer with 9 years of experience in the education market sector. She has been with JCJ for 5 out of those 9 years, working on projects anywhere from pre-K to K-12 to local Boys and Girls Clubs.
Nikki works on all aspects of the project such as figuring out design solutions, making finish selections, producing construction documentation, selecting FF&E and overseeing the furniture installation. Nikki took part in designing the EDMarket classroom design for the 2022 EDSpaces furniture show in Portland, OR. Based off her experience and hard work with that project, she was nominated for the 2023 NextGen Rising Star award and was one of 16 winners.
Nikki Snellinger 2023 NexGen Award Winner
Nominate a Rising Star in Education 40 and Under for the 2024 NexGen Awards
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikkisnellinger/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 176 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website!
Heidie's journey into education was sparked by her experiences in athletics, where she discovered her competitive drive and desire to make a positive impact on others. Despite initially aiming for a principalship, she embraced the opportunity to become a superintendent as a means to broaden her influence and advocate for students on a larger scale.
One of the central themes of the conversation was the importance of maintaining a student-centered approach in the face of political pressures. Heidie shared her commitment to prioritizing the needs of students above all else, even as external forces attempt to inject politics into the educational landscape. By staying true to her core values and focusing on what truly matters – the students – she aims to create an environment where learning thrives free from political interference.
Throughout the episode, Heidie's passion for organizational leadership and her unwavering dedication to the students and staff of Fenton Area Public Schools shone through. Her authenticity and commitment to fostering a positive learning environment serve as a guiding light for educational leaders everywhere.
Takeaways
- Heidie emphasizes the importance of prioritizing the needs of students above all else, even in the face of political pressures, to create an environment where learning thrives.
- Despite initial career aspirations, Heidie seized the opportunity to become a superintendent, driven by her desire to broaden her influence and advocate for students on a larger scale.
- Heidie's journey underscores the importance of staying true to core values and embracing discomfort to effect positive change, demonstrating the transformative power of passion-driven leadership in education.
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller sat down with Heidie Ciesielski, Superintendent of Fenton Area Public Schools, for an insightful discussion on educational leadership, staying radically student-centered, and navigating the complexities of the superintendent role. With 26 years of experience in education, including stints as a middle school principal and Executive Director of Teaching and Learning, Heidie brings a wealth of knowledge and a passion for empowering those within her district.
Follow on Heidie Ciesielski on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidie-ciesielski-b29527131/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidiec24
Fenton Area Public Schools: https://www.fentonschools.org/page/superintendent
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 175 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website!
Ever wondered what drives the passion of an educator?
With a background spanning over a decade of teaching high school English across diverse settings, Katelyn Forcucci's rich experiences have shaped her understanding of the complexities of education and the profound impact teachers can have on their students' lives.
Throughout this conversation, Katelyn shares her reflections on the importance of preparing learners for the future. She emphasizes the critical role educators play in not only imparting knowledge but also nurturing essential skills that will empower students to thrive in an ever-changing world.
Takeaways
- Educators play a crucial role in preparing learners for the future and should focus on developing their skills and knowledge.
- Building strong relationships with students is essential for effective teaching and learning.
- Educators should create a positive classroom climate and provide clear expectations and procedures.
- Humor and storytelling can be powerful tools in engaging students and creating a positive learning environment.
- Education is an undervalued profession that requires dedication and a passion for making a difference in students' lives.
Katelyn spent ten years teaching high school English. She has taught: 7-12 graders in Cambridge, Intensive, Honors, and regular English classes as well as Creative Writing and Regents Prep. Katelyn started her teaching career in Upstate New York where she received her tenure. She taught 9 Honors, Cambridge, and 12th grade College Prep English in Florida. She has taught in affluent, rural, and urban settings.
Most recently, Katelyn was the Director of Education for NorvaNivel USA, LLC. She served as an Education Specialist on the Innovations Team for Charter Schools USA where she was instrumental in designing a future-ready school model. Presently, she is independently consulting.
Kelsey Jordan 2023 NexGen “Rising Stars” Recipient
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katelyn-forcucci-eds/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 174 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Education Market Association (EDmarket) - https://www.edmarket.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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From her own school experiences to her professional career in architecture and design, Kelsey Jordan underscores the pivotal role collaboration and empathy play in shaping learning environments.
In this conversation, Kelsey Jordan, an architect specializing in educational design, discusses her school experience and career decisions. Being recognized as one of the upcoming rising stars in education, she shares her passion for equity in the built environment and leveling the playing field for all students. She highlights the need for open-mindedness and reframing questions to foster creativity and innovation.
Kelsey also discusses her future predictions and the importance of storytelling in inspiring change in education. This conversation explores the importance of reaching the average person and promoting educational stories beyond the school community.
Takeaways
- Collaboration and empathy are crucial in creating better learning environments.
- Designing for equity in the built environment helps level the playing field for all students.
- Reframing questions as 'what if' instead of 'how' encourages creativity and innovation.
- Storytelling is a powerful tool for inspiring change in education. Producing entertaining content can help reach a wider audience and promote positive messages about education.
- Stories have the power to inspire change and challenge negative perceptions of schools.
- De-stigmatizing special education is crucial for creating inclusive learning environments.
- Networking with professionals from different industries can provide valuable insights and ideas for educational projects.
Kelsey Jordan is an Educational Planner and Architect who is experienced as an educational design professional with an emphasis on education and wellness. Her visions for the future of architecture involve strongly embedded ideologies on designing for equity in the built environment.
Follow on Kelsey Jordan on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelseydjordan/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 173 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
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School safety extends far beyond fortifying against external threats.
While it's crucial for schools to be secure environments, true safety encompasses more than just repelling intruders and weapons. A genuinely safe school fosters an atmosphere where students, staff, and teachers feel secure not only during emergencies but also in their day-to-day activities.
However, the conventional approach to school design often prioritizes security measures that result in a stark, "prison-like" atmospheres.
In our latest Better Learning Podcast episode, we dive deep into an often overlooked aspect of education: the design of school buildings. Imagine stepping into a classroom where every corner, every color, and every space is carefully crafted to nurture rather than hinder learning. Deepa Bharatkumar, an architect at Bassetti Architects, brings her 17 years of experience to the forefront as she shares insights into how the built environment impacts our educational experiences.
One of the key takeaways from the conversation is the importance of pre-design work and stakeholder engagement. Deepa emphasizes that successful school architecture projects are not just about blueprints and construction; they're about understanding the needs and experiences of the people who will inhabit these spaces.
But the journey doesn't end once the buildings are erected. Post-occupancy evaluation becomes a critical tool in identifying areas for improvement and informing future design decisions. By continuously refining our approach and sharing findings within the design community, we can pave the way for continuous improvement in education.
Takeaways
- Trauma-informed design is crucial in creating safe and supportive learning environments in schools.
- Pre-design work and stakeholder engagement are essential for successful school architecture projects.
- Post-occupancy evaluation helps identify areas for improvement and informs future design decisions.
- Sharing findings and resources within the design community can lead to continuous improvement in education.
As an architect at Bassetti Architects in Portland, Oregon, Deepa is deeply aware of how the built environment affects people. She sees educational design projects as an opportunity to serve some of the most important people Bassetti designs for – children.
As the mother of two, she places high importance on creating schools that are rewarding and enriching for their users and a landmark for the surrounding community. Over her 17 years in the profession, she has become an advocate for listening to students’ voices, in addition to teacher and district voices, to create spaces that address the needs of the individual and help to create equity within our educational environments.
The Bassetti Architecture Trauma-Informed Design Workbook
Bassetti Architects Website
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deepabharatkumar/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 172 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
EDmarket - https://www.edmarket.org/
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Are standardized tests truly the gatekeepers to higher education, or are they just another hoop to jump through in academics?
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, Kevin Stoller delves deep into this contentious topic with Shaan Patel, the mastermind behind Prep Expert. Brace yourselves for a conversation that will challenge your perceptions of education, standardized testing, and the road to success.
It's no secret that college entrance exams hold immense power over a student's future. Sean Patel knows this firsthand. Despite being a stellar student, he grappled with test anxiety and uncertainty when facing the SAT.
But here's the twist: Patel didn't accept defeat.
Instead, he went on a journey of self-discovery and relentless preparation, ultimately increasing his score an astounding 640 points to perfection. Patel's improvement wasn't just about acing a test; it was about shattering the myth that standardized testing is an insurmountable barrier for those who don't fit the mold.
This shows that the current system is flawed. Standardized testing, though intended to level the playing field, often ends up exacerbating inequalities. It's a game where the rules seem arbitrary, and victory eludes many deserving candidates.
In our conversation, Patel doesn't just critique the status quo; he offers tangible solutions. From reimagining the education system to prioritizing skills over scores, he lays out a roadmap for reform that's as inspiring as it is pragmatic.
Takeaways
- College entrance exams play a crucial role in the college admissions process and can significantly impact a student's chances of getting into their desired university.
- Education should focus not only on content but also on developing skills and traits such as self-motivation, hard work, and time management.
- Standardized testing provides a merit-based framework for evaluating students and can help differentiate between individuals in a system with grade inflation.
- The education system can sometimes feel like a game, with students and schools trying to navigate the rules and achieve the best outcomes. Life can be seen as a game, with individuals striving to get ahead and succeed in various areas such as business and career.
- Equal opportunity is important, but making everyone equal in outcomes may not be realistic or desirable.
- The education system faces challenges in balancing equity and access with the realities of the real world.
- Drive, grit, and self-motivation are crucial for success, regardless of one's circumstances.
Learn More About Prep Expert (As Seen on Shark Tank)
Follow on Shaan Patel on Social Media:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shaan-patel-md-mba-399bb8a4/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shaanpatel/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 171 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/ Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/ Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
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In a world where traditional educational models often fall short of engaging learners, one nonprofit is harnessing the transformative potential of media and storytelling to revolutionize education. In this episode of our Better Learning podcast, Kevin Stoller delves into the innovative work of Second Class Foundation, inviting us to reimagine education through the lens of storytelling.
Second Class Foundation isn't just another nonprofit—it's a movement. By leveraging the captivating medium of storytelling, this organization is on a mission to inspire change in education. Through their groundbreaking docu-series, 'What We Show Them,' they shine a spotlight on the remarkable journey of Valley View Elementary School in Idaho. But this series isn't just about one school—it's about weaving together diverse narratives from different communities, each with its own unique challenges and triumphs. It's about sparking conversations, challenging perceptions, and ultimately, catalyzing positive change in education.
The name "Second Class Foundation" might raise eyebrows at first glance. What does it mean? Is it a commentary on the current state of education? Or perhaps a bold vision for the future? Kevin Stoller addresses these questions head-on, explaining that the name is intentionally provocative. It challenges us to confront the realities of our education system and inspires us to strive for a future where every learner is empowered to reach their full potential.
Whether it's through volunteering, making donations, spreading the word, or exploring funding options, there are countless ways to get involved. Because when it comes to reshaping the future of education, every voice matters, and every action counts.
Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb_otBSMzAo
Takeaways
- Second Class Foundation is a nonprofit that aims to inspire change in education through media and storytelling.
- The docu-series 'What We Show Them' focuses on the story of Valley View Elementary School in Idaho.
- The series aims to intertwine stories from different communities and inspire change in education.
- The audience is invited to get involved by volunteering, donating, spreading the word, and connecting with funding options.
- Storytelling is a powerful tool for creating impactful content and inspiring change in education.
How Can I Help Support The Second Class Foundation Mission?
Watch the New Docuseries What We Show Them: https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/projects
Follow on Second Class Foundation on Social Media:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCone73bOwsNkIanKTuCfbNg
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/secondclassfoundation
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/secondclassfoundation
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/secondclassfoundation/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 170 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Want to be a Guest Speaker? Request on our website!
Despite strides towards gender equality, women have long been underrepresented in educational leadership, facing systemic biases that hinder their advancement.
In this episode, School Superintendent Lisa Leali sheds light on the pervasive biases that continue to shape perceptions of women in leadership. She emphasized that while progress has been made, there is still much work to be done in dismantling the structural barriers that prevent women from ascending to positions of power and influence.
The road to leadership is often fraught with challenges, and for women, these challenges can be compounded by societal expectations and cultural norms. From implicit bias in hiring practices to the lack of representation in decision-making bodies, women face systemic hurdles at every turn.
In addition to advocating for systemic change, Lisa emphasizes the importance of mentorship and support networks for women in leadership. She believes that by lifting each other up and sharing our experiences, we can create a more supportive and empowering ecosystem for women leaders to thrive.
What actionable steps can we take to dismantle systemic biases and create more inclusive environments for women in educational leadership?
Takeaways
- Building trust and collaboration are essential for navigating challenging situations.
- Addressing achievement gaps and improving equity should be a priority in education.
- Leaders should seek resources, learn from others, and create a culture of continuous improvement.
- Barriers for women in leadership roles need to be addressed, and the selection process for superintendents should be reevaluated.
Dr. Lisa Leali has been Superintendent of Schools for Lake Bluff Elementary School District 65 since July 2020. Dr. Leali has over 20 years of experience in public education and earned her master’s degree in Educational Leadership in 2007 from Northeastern Illinois University and her doctorate in Educational Leadership in 2010 from National-Louis University.
Her dissertation was titled “Joyful Classrooms, Successful Kids: A study in the connection between joy and learning.” Leali has served as a consultant on standards-based reporting and writing instruction for school districts in Lake and Cook Counties, has presented regionally for the Illinois Association for Curriculum Development on data and assessment and has presented nationally on the topics of instructional coaching, district leadership and superintendent evaluation.
Learn more about Dr. Lisa Leali:
Lake Bluff School District 65 Website: https://www.lb65.org/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-leali-she-her-hers-a2b0ab53/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/LisaLeali
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 169 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Have you ever pondered the essence of education?
In a world filled with standardized curricula and rigid structures, where does true learning thrive? Gary Stager, a seasoned teacher educator, voices his frustration with the prevailing state of education. His insights, shared in a recent conversation with Kevin Stoller, delve deep into the challenges and opportunities within our educational systems.
Stager's narrative is one of disillusionment with the status quo. He laments the lack of appetite for change, noting a troubling shift towards authoritarianism and fundamentalism in schools. The upheaval caused by the COVID-19 pandemic has only exacerbated these trends, pushing education further down a path of conformity.
At its core, education should prioritize the holistic development of students. It's not merely about preparing them for college or standardized tests but about fostering empathy, social capital, and critical thinking skills.
How can we, as educators, parents, and advocates, come together to foster a more empathetic and inclusive approach to learning?
Takeaways
- The current state of education is frustrating, with a lack of appetite for change and a shift towards authoritarianism and fundamentalism.
- The science of reading debate oversimplifies the complex process of learning to read and fails to consider individual differences and cultural contexts.
- There is a need for diverse models of education that allow students to fall in love with learning and pursue their passions.
- Promoting and sharing stories of successful educational models is crucial in challenging the status quo and inspiring change. Higher education is valuable not only for personal growth but also as a statistical predictor of longevity.
- The focus on college admissions has created an artificial crisis and narrowed the paths for students.
- Education should prioritize creating memorable experiences and fostering social capital.
- The current education system needs to shift its focus away from college and towards the holistic development of students.
- True conversations about education and reevaluating goals are essential for meaningful change.
In addition to being a popular keynote speaker at some of the world’s most prestigious education conferences, Gary Stager is a journalist, teacher educator, consultant, professor, software developer, publisher, and school administrator.
An elementary teacher by training, he has taught students from preschool through doctoral studies. In 1990, Dr. Stager led professional development in the world’s first laptop schools and played a major role in the early days of online education. Gary is the founder of the Constructing Modern Knowledge summer institute for educators.
Learn more about Gary Stager:
Website: http://professorgarystager.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/garystager/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/garystager
Constructing Modern Knowledge: https://constructingmodernknowledge.com/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 168 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
For more information on our partners:
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Governor Doug Ducey is known as one of America's most successful entrepreneurs and most successful governors.
In this episode, Governor Doug Ducey provides insights into the education landscape in Arizona, drawing from his background in business and politics. He emphasizes the importance of innovation and choice in the education system and discusses success stories such as charter schools and programs like Teach for America.
The conversation delves into various aspects of education, including competition, school choice, fundamental education, innovation, and the role of community colleges. Governor Ducey also touches on the future of free enterprise and economic freedom.
Takeaways
- Innovation and choice are crucial in the education system.
- Success stories like charter schools and Teach for America demonstrate the potential for positive change.
- The education establishment often prioritizes protecting its interests over student outcomes.
- Arizona's culture allows for greater innovation and change in education.
- Competition can lead to improvement in schools.
- School choice empowers parents and can enhance both charter and district K-12 schools.
- Concerns about school choice include the loss of neighborhood community and political alignment.
- Fundamental education should prioritize reading, writing, and arithmetic.
- Innovation, such as educational savings accounts and online platforms, can transform learning.
- Community colleges play a crucial role in providing affordable education and skills training.
- Economic freedom and entrepreneurship are essential for individual and national success.
Governor Ducey was born and raised in Toledo, Ohio, where he began his career in business with Procter & Gamble, and later served as CEO of Cold Stone Creamery. There, Ducey led the expansion of the ice cream franchise from one single store into a business with 1,400 locations in the United States and 10 other countries.
Elected Arizona’s 23rd Governor in 2014 and reelected by an even wider margin in 2018, Ducey successfully championed historic policy initiatives, enacting the lowest flat income tax rate in the nation, introducing a first-in-nation law that requires students to pass a Civics test before graduating from high school, knocking-down licensing requirements that stood as a barrier to work, and eliminating or improving over 3,365 regulations resulting in the equivalent of a $183 million dollar tax cut.
Ducey may be best known for pioneering Education Scholarship Accounts and universal school choice – providing every family with the opportunity to have their student attend whatever school is best for them. As the Hill reported, Arizona’s program “has become the standard that school choice advocates argue other states need to emulate.”
Legendary Conservative Columnist George Will described Ducey as the “most successful 21st century governor.”
Under Governor Ducey’s leadership, Arizona also experienced unparalleled growth with the state’s economy having boomed while the size of government has shrunk. When Ducey left office, Arizona’s government employed 5,000 less state workers than when he took office, and the state’s economy added over 500,000 private sector jobs.
Learn more about Doug Ducey:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougducey/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/DougDucey
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dougducey/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dougducey/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dougducey
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 167 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
In this conversation, Micah Miner discusses the need for change in education and the importance of relevant curriculum. He shares stories from his teaching experience and highlights the impact of AI on education.
The introduction of Apple's Vision Pro is discussed, along with its potential impact on education. The conversation also touches on the importance of social interaction in AR/VR education and the need for affordable and inclusive access to these technologies.
In this conversation, Micah Miner discusses the importance of reinventing education and connecting virtual and physical spaces. He also highlights the potential of AI and the need for safeguards to support and educate children. The conversation concludes with a focus on creating opportunities for every child and the active engagement of listeners in the podcast community.
Takeaways
- Education needs to be relevant and inclusive, with curriculum that reflects the diversity of students' experiences.
- AI has the potential to revolutionize education, but it requires thoughtful implementation and consideration of policies and procedures.
- AR/VR technologies like Apple's Vision Pro can enhance learning experiences and provide new opportunities for students.
- Social interaction and collaboration are important aspects of AR/VR education that need to be considered.
- Affordable and inclusive access to AR/VR technologies is crucial to ensure all students can benefit from these tools.
Micah Miner serves as the District Administrator for Instructional Technology & Social Studies at Maywood, Melrose Park, Broadview School District 89 near Chicago. He is a contributing writer for the American Consortium for Equity in Education and an author with Times 10 Publications.
With expertise spanning instructional technology, social studies, and equity in education, Micah is dedicated to enhancing teaching and learning experiences at the intersection of technology and social studies. His career includes roles as a classroom teacher, department chair, instructional coach, and professor.
Micah writes about emerging technologies like AI and the Metaverse, focusing on thoughtful integration that maximizes learning potential while prioritizing student privacy and equity. His insights reflect a deep commitment to expanding access and opportunity through technology.
Micah Miner Website: https://micahminer.com/
Micah Miner LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/micah-j-miner/
Micah Miner Twitter: https://twitter.com/minerclass
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 166 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
In this episode, Kevin Stoller interviews Tom Murray, the Director of Innovation for Future Ready Schools. They discuss Tom's journey in education, the challenges and rewards of educational leadership, and the importance of building trust and communication with the community. They also explore the power of relationships in education and the need to share the positive stories happening in schools. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for strong leadership and collaboration to create better learning experiences for students.
Takeaways
- Educators should share their stories and be proud of the work they do.
- Building trust and communication with the community is essential for the success of schools.
- Public perception of education should be based on the positive stories and impact happening in schools.
- Strong relationships are the foundation of effective education.
After serving at the elementary and secondary levels as both a teacher and a principal, and then at the district level, Tom now serves as the Director of Innovation for Future Ready SchoolsR, a project of All4Ed, located in Washington, D.C. He has testified before the United States Congress and has previously worked alongside that body and the US Senate, the White House, the US Department of Education and state departments of education, and school districts throughout the country to implement student-centered learning. Murray serves as a regular conference keynote, was named one of “20 to Watch” by NSBA, the “National/Global EdTech Leader of the Year” in 2018, the “Education Thought Leader of the Year” in 2017, and the “Education Policy Person of the Year” by the Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2015. His best-selling book, Learning Transformed, was released in 2017 with ASCD, and his most recent best-seller, Personal & Authentic was released in 2019. Connect with him at thomascmurray.com or @thomascmurray.
Learn more about Tom Murray:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomascmurray/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/thomascmurray
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThomasCMurrayEDU
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/thomascmurray
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 165 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Matt Hansen, an architect based in Pittsburgh, discusses the challenges and opportunities in the education sector in Western Pennsylvania. He shares his background in architecture and how he transitioned to focusing on educational design. Matt highlights the funding shortage and the need for school renovations and replacements in the region. He also discusses the importance of incorporating innovative design concepts, such as small learning communities and outdoor spaces, into school projects. Matt emphasizes the value of collaboration between architects and educators to create effective learning environments. The conversation covers the origins of the podcast and the motivation behind it. It also explores the involvement of the podcast in the A4LE community and the unique position it holds. The conversation concludes with closing remarks and a commitment to driving change in education. Takeaways * The education sector in Western Pennsylvania faces challenges due to funding shortages and outdated school facilities. * Innovative design concepts, such as small learning communities and outdoor spaces, can enhance the learning experience. * Collaboration between architects and educators is crucial to create effective and inspiring learning environments. * Furniture plays a significant role in educational spaces and should be carefully considered to support learning and engagement. The podcast started as a way to continue conversations with educators and share practical experiences. * The podcast became involved with A4LE as a way to support the community and have meaningful conversations. * The podcast's unique position allows for discussions with architects and interior designers who deeply care about education.
Matt Hansen joined IKM in 2005 and has spearheaded the firm’s efforts in growing its K-12 education portfolio. He has successfully managed over $230 million of project cost in the market sector. As the Educational Practice Leader, Mr. Hansen is responsible for leading and facilitating IKM's planning and visioning process and helping clients research and identify their facility needs. Matt is a gifted designer who employs an energetic, collaborative approach that places research-driven concepts at the forefront of his work.
Learn more about Matt Hansen:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hansen-a493968b/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 164 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
In this conversation, Kevin Stoller interviews David O'Coimin, the founder of NookPod. They discuss the importance of student-centered learning and the need for flexible learning environments. David shares the inspiration behind NookPod and how it provides a private and comfortable space for individuals to work or learn. They also talk about the challenges of taking the leap to start a new venture and the importance of surrounding yourself with like-minded individuals. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the versatility and unexpected uses of NookPod, as well as the impact of change makers in education.
Takeaways
- Student-centered learning is crucial for creating effective learning environments.
- Flexible and private spaces, like NookPod, can enhance productivity and focus.
- Taking calculated risks and surrounding yourself with like-minded individuals can lead to personal and professional growth.
- Change makers play a vital role in transforming education and improving learning outcomes.
Based between Amsterdam and Bristol, David O’Coimin is a product and experience designer, inclusivity consultant, digital nomad and social-minded founder with a passion for people, places and planet.
Operating under the mantra of 'Design For The Extreme Benefits The Mean’ and guided by the UN Sustainable Development Goals, David helps organisations to realise the full potential of their space and the people who use them, with a particular focus on micro-spaces and neuroinclusivity.
Learn more about David O’Coimin:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidocoimin/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/ddfoc
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/.
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 163 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Small rural schools often face challenges in providing diverse career training opportunities for their students. Limited resources and infrastructure can hinder students from gaining exposure to high-demand, high-wage positions upon graduation.
Recognizing the need for a transformative solution, McCamey ISD, in collaboration with three other districts, took a bold step to kick off the Permian Basin Innovation Zone (PBIZ). This initiative stems from the belief that every student, regardless of their school's size or location, should have access to quality career training.
PBIZ is not just an ordinary program; it's a Texas Education Agency (TEA) backed initiative that goes beyond traditional boundaries. The program is designed to facilitate collaboration among small rural schools, allowing them to pool resources, share students, and even exchange staff. This collaborative effort aims to create a dynamic learning environment that mirrors the real-world demands of the workforce.
PBIZ breaks down the barriers that often limit rural students. By collaborating with neighboring districts, schools can offer a broader range of trades and vocational programs. This enables students to explore and graduate with valuable skills that align with high-demand and high-wage positions in the job market.
PBIZ isn't just about providing technical skills; it's a holistic approach to education that considers the unique needs of rural communities. By fostering collaboration, PBIZ ensures that students not only receive quality training but also gain a broader perspective on the career opportunities available to them.
In this episode, learn about the transformative impact of PBIZ on rural education, gain insights into Mr. Valencia's journey and his efforts to enhance learning opportunities, and explore Elizabeth Hegi's expertise in education technology and creating innovative learning environments.
Mr. Michael Valencia is the Superintendent of McCamey Independent School District. He has served in various positions throughout his 22 year educational career. Michael began his career with Pecos Barstow Toyah ISD as a teacher and coach. He is married to his wife Ashley, and together, they share six wonderful children.
Elizabeth Hegi is with Kay-Twelve and has over 17 years experience working with school districts in Texas in the Education Technology, School Photography and Yearbook industries. Most recently she partnered with school districts to provide technology solutions to their campuses. She is excited to continue partnering with schools to assist them in creating more unique, collaborative, and effective learning spaces. She has lived and worked in the Houston area most of her life, and now resides in New Braunfels with her husband and three children.
Learn more about Michael Valencia:
McCamey ISD Website: https://www.mcisd.esc18.net/
Michael's LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-valencia-987b448b/
Learn more about Elizabeth Hegi:
Kay-Twelve's Website: https://www.kay-twelve.com/
Elizabeth's LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth3302/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 162 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Welcome to another episode of Better Learning! In the episode, we have a remarkable guest who is changing the game for people with periods. Meet Claire Coder, a Forbes 30 Under 30 awardee, a Thiel Fellow, and the dynamic Founder and CEO of Aunt Flow. Claire's journey is nothing short of inspiring.
At just 26 years old, Claire is not only a Thiel Fellow but a trailblazer in the field of menstrual equity. With Aunt Flow, she's on a mission to make the world better for people with periods. Under Claire's leadership, Aunt Flow has revolutionized public bathrooms by stocking them with freely accessible tampons and pads. The company has introduced patented dispensers in over 30,000 bathrooms, raising an impressive $17 million+ in venture capital.
Collaborating closely with education leaders and architects, Claire ensures that Aunt Flow's mission to provide freely accessible period products transcends boundaries. It's noteworthy that the push for Aunt Flow products in schools doesn't come solely from adults; rather, it's the students themselves who recognize the importance of menstrual equity in their learning environments. In this episode, discover how any school can join the movement and bring Aunt Flow's impactful initiatives to their campus, fostering an environment where every student can focus on their education without the worry of period supplies.
Learn more about Aunt Flow and Claire Coder:
Aunt Flow Website: https://goauntflow.com/
Claire's LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairecoder/
Claire's Instagram Profile: https://www.instagram.com/clairecoderofficial/
Claire's Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/clairecoder
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 161 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
In this episode of The Better Learning Podcast, we go on an exploration of the profound impact of storytelling, featuring Matthew Dicks as our guest. Since 2011, Matthew has graced stages worldwide with his captivating narratives, winning hearts and accolades along the way.
Dive into the essence of what makes a story truly compelling. Matthew unpacks the key elements that elevate a narrative, emphasizing the importance of never assuming you have someone's attention—especially crucial for educators navigating classrooms filled with diverse learning styles. He also underscores the significance of infusing entertainment into storytelling, particularly in educational settings. Discover why the ability to entertain holds the key to making a lasting impact, whether you're addressing a room full of children or adults.
Drawing from his extensive experience, Matthew sheds light on the pitfalls of assuming attention and advocates for active engagement strategies. Learn how this principle applies not only in storytelling but also in teaching, public speaking, and any scenario where capturing attention is paramount. Matthew's expertise extends beyond the stage as he delves into teaching the art of captivation. Explore the techniques he employs to empower individuals—from educators to corporate professionals—to refine their storytelling skills and create lasting impressions.
Gain valuable insights into the art of crafting compelling narratives that resonate, entertain, and leave a lasting impact—whether you're on stage, in the classroom, or addressing a diverse audience.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Episode 160 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://secondclassfoundation.org/
Kevin speaks with Vincent Spencer and Ryan Olson from Gensler - a global architecture firm - about designing unique spaces for students. Specifically, Vincent and Ryan are currently working on the Foust Robotics and Gaming Magnet School in Guilford County, North Carolina. They discuss the challenges of designing a space for such a unique school concept and offer a glimpse into how curricular considerations informed the design.
Vincent J. Spencer is a Designer Manager and Associate in the Gensler Charlotte office. He has over 17 years of experience in educational and investment commercial design. His guiding philosophy: better schools demonstrate communities care about education. Vincent is involved in all aspects of the design and construction process, from advance planning, design, and production of contract documents to quality reviews to ensure the projects meet environmental, zoning and regulatory standards. He is driven to make a difference in the lives of students, teachers, and their families.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincent-j-spencer/
Ryan Olson is a Technical Designer in the Gensler Charlotte office with more than 15 years of experience as a design lead on education, workplace, mixed-use, and building repositioning projects. With expertise in both architecture and interior design, he is able to integrate the two fields for an “inside-out” design approach. Ryan is well-versed in all aspects of the design process, and specializes in conceptual design and design experience. He is dedicated to crafting concepts that guide the design process and resonate through all phases of a project’s lifecycle.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-olson-24608aa/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Kevin speaks with Nathan Strenge - a "rogue teacher" who went on to found Exploration High School in Minneapolis - a school that strives to be a "public school for the public good". He speaks with Kevin about his transformation into a rogue teacher, the importance of student agency, and the value of authentic learning experiences.
Nathan Strenge is passionately committed to transforming education into a learner-centered experience, uniquely tailored to each individual's gifts and needs. With a decade of experience as an award-winning teacher, Nathan understands the critical role of deep relationships and authentic experiences in education. He utilizes time and space innovatively to reshape the educational landscape.
Currently a Senior Learning Designer at Fielding International, Nathan offers diverse services including learning environment design, spatial auditing, leadership coaching, and project-based learning (PBL) support. He crafts practical tools to help schools expand their initiatives, aiming for a more inclusive and adaptable educational system. Notably, Nathan has written and directed two series of short films in collaboration with Cranston Public School, focusing on Learning Communities and Project-based Learning.
Find Nathan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-strenge-3232b326/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Classical education is an approach to teaching that emphasizes the liberal arts and the study of classic literature. Erik Twist, with over 15 years of experience in classical education spaces, shares his background to make a case for classical education in our modern, fractured times. Erik highlights the importance of preparing students for college, the need for education to extend beyond basic test preparation, and the challenges faced by school leaders.
Erik Twist is the Principal Partner and President of Arcadia Education. From 2008 to 2022, Erik helped build Great Hearts Academies into the largest network of classical schools in the country. He served as president of Great Hearts Arizona from 2017 to 2022. Erik was a member of the Arizona State Board for Charter Schools from 2016 to 2021, as well as a member of the Arizona Charter Schools Association.
Erik holds degrees from Trinity University, where he studied political science, and Oxford University, where he studied theology and philosophy. Erik has been married for 20 years to Allison, and they have six children.
Find Erik on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erik-twist-697ba284/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Kevin welcomes Mike Realon to discuss his 20 years of transforming public schools in and around Charlotte, North Carolina. He shares the underlining philosophy behind the innovative Olympic High School - which has five separate career academies on the same campus. Mike also talks about the importance of understanding local job needs as a way to create a successful path forward for students.
Mike Realon has significantly impacted public education for over 20 years. His recent efforts include launching Palisades High School in Charlotte which was selected to pilot a "Green Energy & Sustainability" high school pathway and an Advanced Technology Hub. Previously at Olympic High School, he led the development of five distinguished National Academy Foundation career academies. Recognized by Microsoft as one of America's top innovative educators, Mike's approach emphasizes apprenticeships and industry partnerships, enhancing experiential learning. His initiatives at Palisades High have formed over 700 community partnerships, contributing to project-based learning. Mike's work, celebrated in major media outlets, serves as a model for educational and workforce development.
Mike's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-realon-85b9855/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Kevin speaks with Amar Kumar about his journey to becoming the founder of KaiPod Learning - a company that helps organize microschools for children all over the United States. Amar explains what microschools are, their guiding principles, and what the future holds for the parents and students who might be interested in microschooling.
Amar Kumar is an education entrepreneur who is passionate about making learning more personal, more social, and more engaging. He is the founder of KaiPod Learning, where small group learning is paired with online schools or homeschool curriculum to deliver a new type of learning experience. In his past experience, Amar was the Chief Product Officer for Pearson's Online K-12 division. He has also been a school teacher and a principal at a high-needs rural school in India.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kumaramar/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/AmarKumarEdu
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Kevin Stoller speaks Punya Mishra, an Associate Dean and Professor at Arizona State University. They explore the intersection of design and education, emphasizing the importance of questioning assumptions within the education system. They also discuss the role of reflection in learning, the coexistence of arts and STEM, and the design of learning spaces.
Dr. Punya Mishra is Associate Dean of Scholarship & Innovation and Professor in the Mary Lou Fulton Teachers College at Arizona State University. He also has an affiliate appointment in ASU’s Design School. As associate dean he leads a range of initiatives that provide a future-forward, equity driven, approach to educational research. He is internationally recognized for his work in educational technology; the role of creativity and aesthetics in learning; and the application of design-based approaches to educational innovation. He has received $9.5 million in grants; published over 200 articles and edited 5 books. With over 50,000 citations of his research, he is ranked among the top 2% of scientists worldwide and the top 100 scholars with the biggest influence on educational practice and policy. A TED-Ed educator, he co-hosts the award-winning Silver Lining for Learning webinar as well as the Value Laden and Learning Futures podcasts. Dr. Mishra is an award-winning instructor who has taught courses at undergraduate, masters and doctoral levels in the areas of educational technology, educational psychology, design, and creativity. He is also an engaging public speaker, and an accomplished visual artist and poet. You can learn more about him by going to https://punyamishra.com/.
Website: punyamishra.com
LinkedIn: PunyaMishra
Twitter: @punyamishra
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Kevin Stoller attended EDspaces 2023 in Charlotte, North Carolina. While he was there he met with dozens of designers, leaders, manufacturer, and educators. Kevin asked them all two questions: "What does radical learning meaning to you?" and "Why do you do this work?".
The voices in this episode include:
Dave Diller, Christina Counts, Chuck Rudalavage. Aimee Eckmann. Julie McLaurin, Stacey Waxtan, Shalini Bhattacharya, Dr. Robert Dillon, Victoria Morian, Tracy Hucul, Katelyn Forcucci, Asher Marcus, Hailey Wrasman, Lauren Gauthier. Charlotte Nienhaus, Rebecca Baibak, Brian Proctor, Kelsey Jordan, Sarah Brown, Dr. Tammy A. Andreyko, Jenniver Gracyalny, Christopher White, Will Anderson
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Elana Leoni (CEO, Leoni Consulting Group) talks with Kevin about the unique challenges and opportunities that both educators and professionals face as they attempt to push forward in a post-COVID environment. This episode dives into the dynamics of the education technology industry, exploring the shift from free to paid services, the impact of the pandemic on edtech startups, and strategies for engaging busy school leaders and educators.
Elana Leoni has had a significant career in improving K-12 education, notably leading marketing at the George Lucas Educational Foundation and expanding Edutopia's social media reach. She is a board member of Mt. Tam College, a prominent blogger and speaker in social media and education, and has been recognized as a top community professional. Elana introduced Edcamps to the West Coast and holds a business administration degree from Cal Poly and an MBA from Berkeley's Haas School. In her leisure time, she enjoys international travel, yoga, "old man sports," and almost anything on the water.
Find Elana online:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/elanaleoni
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elanaleoni/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elanaleoni/
Find Leoni Consulting Group online:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/LeoniGroup
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lcg-found/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leoniconsultinggroup/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Kevin Stoller discusses the integration of technology into the art curriculum with a team from Lincoln, Nebraska. The team includes Guy Trainin, a professor and principal investigator from University of Nebraska and two teachers from Art-Holmes Elementary School: Amy Spilker, a second-grade teacher, and Matt Akmudi, an art teacher. They share their experiences and insights on how they are using technology to meet the needs of their students.
Dr. Guy Trainin is a University of Nebraska-Lincoln education professor specializing in literacy, technology integration, and innovative learning with recent research in AI. He is an active digital author, blogger, and podcast host. He blogs at guytrainin@blogpost.com podcasts at tech-edge on apple podcasts and TechEdge01 on Youtube. Find him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guytrainin
Matt Auch Moedy is an Art Specialist at Art-Holmes Elementary with a master's degree in Curriculum and Instruction, skilled in Art Education and K-12 classroom management.
Amy Spilker, a dedicated 2nd Grade Teacher at Art-Holmes Elementary, brings 16 years of experience to her teaching, emphasizing creative problem-solving and collaborative student discovery.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Kevin speaks to almost 30 attendees at LearningScapes 2023 in Chicago. He asks them two important questions:
"What does Radically Student-Centered mean to you?"
"What's your 'why' for doing this type of work?"
The hope is that by hearing this tapestry of voices, you will be able to understand all of the exciting viewpoints and ideas that are percolating within the education sector. Think of this as a Sonic Word Cloud.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Challenged to plan and design sustainable and resilient learning spaces that encourage innovation, critical thinking and collaboration, a handful of young designers have broadened the potential of a school by connecting excellence in design with excellence in education. Their rigorous research, exceptional teamwork and eco-friendly solutions not only meet the needs of students, but address the economy and society of the future, enabling them to master the skills they need to take on the challenges of a world defined by change.
Yasmin Sanchez and Michelle Guerrero, two of the young designers for the award-winning Sustainable Open Learning (SOL) Academy, joined us on the Better Learning Podcast during LearningSCAPES to talk through the SchoolsNEXT Design Competition and how it helped offer them an opportunity to illustrate the kind of creativity that students bring to the planning and design process.
The competition highlights the importance of well-planned, healthy, safe sustainable and resilient schools that foster student and teacher achievement and enhance community vitality. The international annual competition, open to middle school and high school students, challenges student teams to design their learning environments to enhance learning, conserve resources, be environmentally responsive and engage the surrounding community. The multi-disciplinary solution requires students to follow a planning process from the concept phase to completion of the project, with thorough documentation. The students will present their project to a jury for review.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Welcome to Episode 148 of the Better Learning Podcast, where we embark on a remarkable journey to Kevin's hometown, Chicago, to cover the LearningSCAPES Conference. In this captivating episode, we're diving deep into the heart of education, exploring our theme for the conference and this podcast episode: "Keeping the Focus Radically Student Centered."
Chicago serves as the perfect backdrop for this important gathering, bringing together educators, students, community members, and visionaries who share our passion for enhancing education. We'll discuss why being "Radically Student Centered" isn't just a catchphrase; it's a vital mission that extends its impact beyond us to touch the lives of educators, students, and the entire community.
But that's not all! As we look ahead to 2024, we'll share our exciting plans for the Better Learning Podcast. Expect improvements in both quality and content as we continue to grow our platform. Why? Because this podcast is about more than just insightful conversations; it's a part of our larger mission to transform education worldwide.
Thank you for being a part of our journey. Subscribe, rate, and leave a review to show your support. Follow us on social media to stay updated, and remember, when it comes to education, the key is to keep it radically student centered. Tune in and stay inspired!
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Dr. Zachary Stier stops by the show to talk about the transformative power of public libraries and their significance as hubs of informal learning. Dr. Stier passionately delves into the symbiotic relationship between libraries and schools, emphasizing the collaborative efforts that bolster student growth. As schools grapple with the decision to retain or reinvent their libraries, Dr. Stier champions the irreplaceable value of these spaces as sanctuaries of exploration, play, and dialogue. Dr. Zachary Stier has been the transformative director of Children's Services at Ericson Public Library in Boone, Iowa since 2011, introducing initiatives like NASA@My Library and the equity project, Activating Community Voices. He founded consultancy firm Mr. Z and Company, LLC and is an adjunct lecturer at the University of Illinois Champaign iSchool, where he developed a course on Early Literacy and Public Library Partnerships. Dr. Stier is also involved with the Fred Rogers Institute program and serves on various state and national boards. Holding multiple degrees, he's a published author and a recognized leader in early childhood education and library services.
Zachary on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrzandcompany/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Kevin sits down with Doug Roberts from the Institute for Education Innovation (IEI), a nexus for fostering dialogue and collaboration between the education sector and school leaders. Doug, who transitioned from a high school teacher to an EdTech entrepreneur, unpacks his rich journey and sheds light on the crucial role of building nurturing relationships amongst educational leaders. The discussion ventures deep into the hurdles and pressures faced by superintendents, underscoring the pressing need for robust mentorship and leadership development programs. Tune in as they also explore the innovative strides of the Super Choice Awards program and dive into untapped market potentials like green energy solutions and fortified safety measures in schools, all aiming towards fostering a brighter future for students.
Doug Roberts, Founder & CEO of the Institute for Education Innovation (IEI), has built a remarkable career since graduating from Princeton and earning his EdM from the Harvard Graduate School of Education. Leveraging his background as a high school teacher and EdTech executive, Doug founded the IEI in 2018 to foster partnerships between school district leaders and EdTech entrepreneurs, emphasizing innovation, agility, and resourcefulness to enhance student outcomes. The IEI, which organizes conferences and supports emerging education leaders and inclusivity initiatives, is now a thriving community with over 100 members nationwide. Additionally, Doug initiated the Supes’ Choice Awards, recognizing excellence in EdTech products based on criteria like innovation and engagement. A fervent advocate for quality education, equity, and inclusion, Doug cherishes family time and roots for the Yankees, while continuously encouraging dialogues on the future of learning.
Institute for Education Innovation: https://www.instituteforedinnovation.com/
Social Links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougrobertsiei/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/DougRoberts_IEI
Email: doug@instituteforedinnovation.com
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Explore the vital role that a nurturing school community plays in fostering safe and effective learning environments. Warren Drake and Adam Smith discuss the importance of meeting students' basic needs and encouraging them to take active roles in shaping their school's culture. They delve into strategies for breaking the culture of silence, promoting open communication, and the critical role of school leaders in facilitating a safe and supportive atmosphere. Join us as we unpack the nuances of building a school community where every student feels valued, empowered, and ready to flourish.
Warren Drake is the Senior Business Development Executive at CSRS, Inc., focusing on facility resilience and student safety in K-12 education. His notable tenure as the Superintendent of East Baton Rouge Parish Schools saw significant strides in efficiency and academic enhancement, along with the successful passage of a substantial tax plan to modernize schools. Before that, he propelled Zachary Community School District to be the state's top-performing district during his 10-year leadership. Drake, an LSU alumni and recipient of several prestigious awards, is also recognized as the Magnet Schools of America Superintendent of the Year.
CSRS LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/csrs/
Adam Smith presently holds the position of Associate Superintendent at the East Baton Rouge Parish School System, overseeing the Exceptional Student Services Department. With over 20 years of service in the EBR school system, he has held various significant positions, including Interim Superintendent and Executive Director for School Leadership. His leadership has seen a substantial number of schools under his supervision achieve high progress letter grades and notable improvements, particularly in the elementary sector. Throughout his career, Smith has exhibited a steadfast dedication to the East Baton Rouge Parish community.
EBR Schools Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EBRPschools
Other episodes that touch on similar topics:
Scott Muri (2/15/23):
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2m27SS3OBdNUwESpyRAmHO?si=e8fdc54077d74d5f
Greg Hudnall (3/17/23):
https://open.spotify.com/episode/4yDhPO3lJqfAuu3edJjWy3?si=6f8ef291a20e47b7
Also, make sure to sign-up for Kerri Brady's event in the Education Leaders' Organization (ELO) titled "Together We Grow - EduSafe Transforming Education":
https://members.ed-leaders.org/landing?from=https%3A%2F%2Fmembers.ed-leaders.org%2Fspaces%2F12193822%2Fpage
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Architect Darlene Cadman and Kay-Twelve Educational Design Specialist Kevin Foote discuss the three different categories of their audience: school leaders, change agents, and professionals in the space of education. They explore the support needed for school leaders to affect the culture of their communities, the role of change agents in improving education, and the importance of architects and designers in creating effective learning spaces. They also spend some time specifically discussing the state of education in Arizona.
Darlene Cadman is the Project Director at SPS Architects. She has over 24 years in the construction industry and specializes in K-12 architecture, managing large-scale projects in both Canada and the US. Notably, Darlene led the architectural team for Alberta's first Integrated Project Delivery (IPD) and has been pivotal in advancing collaborative project delivery in Canada. Darlene's recent projects in Arizona include Geneva Epps Mosley Middle School and Hohokam Elementary School.
Find Arlene on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darlene-cadman-a2145232/
Kevin Foots is an Educational Design Specialist at Kay-Twelve. A graduate from Northern Arizona University and Grand Canyon University, Kevin has focused his work on Southwest US schools. A 3rd generation Arizonan, he has expansive knowledge across public, charter, and private school domains. Kevin has also been accredited by ALEP (Accreditation of Learning Environments Planners) which demonstrates his competencies essential to planning, designing and equipping educational spaces.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
40% of children are struggling deeply with mental health - some even to the point of contemplating the unthinkable. But why? What pressures are pushing our children to such extremes? Steve Shapiro, host of the education podcast Experience Matters, drops by to discuss the multifaceted causes - from the rigorous stress of schoolwork and college admission anxieties to discrimination and societal pressuresand. More important, they talk about what we, as a society, can do to address this crisis.
By sharing hard-hitting data from Stanford University and heartfelt personal stories, Kevin and Steve aim to break through the facade of what's deemed 'normal' in educational expectations and shine a light on what truly matters: the well-being and happiness of our young generation.
Steve Shapiro boasts over three decades in K-12 education, including roles in classroom teaching, program direction, and district leadership. A passionate advocate for high school reform, experiential and project-based learning, Steve has not only transformed classroom experiences but has also served as a keynote speaker, development coach, and mentor to teachers globally, from Ohio State University to emerging democracies like Poland and Ukraine. He hosts "Experience Matters", a podcast for educators seeking authentic, impactful learning over standardized schooling.
For more on Steve, visit https://www.steventshapiro.com
For more on Experience Matters, visit https://www.steventshapiro.com/experiencematterspodcast
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Glenn Robbins, Superintendent of the Brigantine Public School District, delves deep into the true essence of success, challenging the conventional wisdom that prioritizes prestige and academia. Drawing inspiration from David Epstein's "Range," he advocates for the unparalleled value of diverse experiences and the power of a wide perspective. Beyond just personal achievement, Glenn underscores the transformative role of impassioned leadership, emphasizing the ripple effects of enthusiasm, compassion, and collaboration throughout a community. Discover how mentors, literature, and a genuine commitment to growth can redefine the success narrative and create a vibrant environment where everyone in a school district thrives.
Where to find Glenn:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glenn-robbins-25067111b/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Glennr1809
Glenn Robbins is the proud Superintendent of the Brigantine Public School District in Brigantine, New Jersey. His passion is harnessing a district culture that thrives on positive psychology, design thinking, futurism, innovative digital spaces, technology integration, esports, cybersecurity, Social Emotional Learning Zen Dens, and Maker cultures. In addition, Glenn encourages all students to have a voice, not only in building a school culture, but also in designing student led entrepreneur opportunities.
He is the proud recipient of the National Superintendent Certification, and serves as an AASA National Governing Board Member, AASA Aspiring Superintendent Mentor, and Chair of NJASA Techspo. He has been awarded numerous administrative state and national recognitions including the NJ Visionary Superintendent Award, the Tech & Learning Northeast Innovative Superintendent Award, Digital Promise League of Innovative Schools Member, NASSP Digital Principal of the Year, and SETDA Award Winner.
Glenn has been recognized by numerous organizations for his innovative implementation methods, and has been a featured keynote speaker at numerous events focusing on leadership, culture, school/district turnaround in academic excellence through design thinking and futurism.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Are being a performer and a teacher similar? According to Joe Dombrowski (Mr. D), who was a teacher before he was a standup comedian, the two careers are very similar. Throughout this conversation, Joe talks about his experiences teaching, missing the kids but not the other aspects of teaching, the advantages of being his own boss, and using comedy to shed light on the issues in the education system.
Joe Dombrowski (aka Mr.D) took the world by storm in 2017 with a viral April Fools’ Day spelling test prank that landed him multiple appearances on the Ellen DeGeneres show. Don't get it twisted though! It takes at least 20 years to be an overnight sensation! Joe has been doing stand up comedy since he was eight years old in his third grade talent show. He's never stopped! Since Joe's rise to fame, he has been traveling the globe with his stand-up comedy which often highlights his crazy life as an elementary school teacher. When he’s not getting creative on screens and stages, Joe spends his time in Seattle, Washington producing his podcast “Social Studies” where he recaps absolutely insane stories from teachers all over the world.
Follow Mr. D on Twitter (or any other social platform) with the handle @mrdtimes3.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
As we look to understand both the present and the future of education, this week we're thrilled to welcome Laura Boyd. She's a middle school Spanish teacher and she shares her experiences in a public school in 2023. Laura discusses her journey into teaching, including her experience with Teach for America and her passion for incorporating technology in the classroom. She also highlights the challenges and adaptations she faced during the COVID-19 pandemic as well as the practices that she finds useful to engage her students.
Laura Boyd is a Middle School Spanish Teacher for the Franklin Special School District. She completed the two-year Teach for America program and currently holds a master’s degree in education with a focus on World Language and Spanish. Starting my tenth year as a Spanish teacher in Tennessee. Passions include edtech, sel, and teacher voice. Currently holds a Masters Degree in Education with a focus on World Language and Spanish. Passion for a classroom that produces superior learning as well as student development. Enjoys training teachers about educational technology.
She serves as related arts team leader, grant team representative, and Spirit Night coordinator, and mentors first-generation college students with Tennessee Achieves. Technology presenter at the district, local, and state levels. Avid runner and high-energy personality with a passion for a classroom that produces superior learning as well as student development.
Find Laura on Twitter, YouTube, and Instagram: @technologylaura.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Our educational system is not simply comprised of children with their teachers and administrators. The whole educational system is supported by the work of people in the for-profit spaces: software engineers, architects, publishers, and furniture designers and manufacturers. In this episode, Kevin Stoller speaks with Fōmcore Founder, Jeremy Leffring. They talk about how a company Fōmcore helps make a difference, their shared mission of improving education, and what a service-guided company behaves.
For more on Fōmcore, visit https://fomcore.com/.
Jeremy Leffring is the Co-Owner of Fōmcore, a company that specializes in soft-seating, aimed at promoting collaboration, connection, learning, and creativity in K-12 environments and beyond. Jeremy's journey in the foam business started in 1983 when his father founded a foam fabricating company. Alongside his business partner, Jeff Zack, Jeremy officially launched Fōmcore in November 2017. Before venturing into business, Jeremy was a PE teacher and spent over 25 years as a coach. When not working with the Fōmcore team, Jeremy can be found coaching his kids, boating, surfing, or spending quality time with his wife. Jeremy's passion for coaching and business is driven by his desire to influence the lives of those around him positively. He feels blessed to have the opportunity to be a blessing in the lives of others.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Educator and author E. D. Hirsch talks with host Kevin Stoller about his views on the state of education. He shares his thoughts on the connection between reading skills and cultural literacy, the correlation between reading skills and future income, and the importance of shared knowledge.
E.D. Hirsch, Jr., founder and chairman of the Core Knowledge Foundation and professor emeritus at the University of Virginia, is an esteemed voice in education reform, championing equal educational opportunity. Originally a literary critic and English professor, Hirsch was prompted towards education reform when he observed the impact of students' background knowledge on their reading comprehension. This led to his concept of cultural literacy, which asserts that effective reading comprehension requires extensive background knowledge in addition to basic decoding skills. Hirsch established the Core Knowledge Foundation in 1986 and quickly gained renown with his book, "Cultural Literacy: What Every American Needs to Know," which topped the New York Times bestseller list for over six months. His subsequent publications, including "How to Educate a Citizen: The Power of Shared Knowledge to Unify a Nation," continually advocate for the use of common, coherent, and sequenced curricula in public schools, particularly from preschool to grade 8.
Core Knowledge Foundation: https://www.linkedin.com/company/core-knowledge-foundation/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Is education in need of reform or complete revolution? What's the difference?
Those are some of the questions that are tackled in this episode. Kevin Stoller is joined by Professional Learning Partnerships' Chief Learning Officer, Julis Skolnik. She shares her knowledge on how brain science could be used to shape education and she discusses how bridging the philosophical gap between education and entrepreneurship could make a world of difference for children.
For more on Professional Learning Partnerships, visit https://www.learningpartnerships.org/.
To reach out to Julia, find her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliaskolnik/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
In this very special episode, Host Kevin Stoller chats with Jolene Levin. Jolene is the Executive Director of the brand new education-oriented nonprofit, The SecondClassFoundation. This organization was founded around the idea of changing the ways we view and talk about education online, in print, and in movies and television shows. They discuss her journey into the world of education and share their excitement for what The SecondClassFoundation can bring to education.
Most importantly, SCF is looking for collaborators to help bring this mission of changing narratives around education to fruition. Visit www.secondclassfoundation.org to find out how you can help.
Jolene Levin is the Executive Director of the SecondClassFoundation. She is a passionate advocate for educational innovation with over a decade of experience shaping diverse learning environments. Known for her transformative work at NorvaNivel where she aided schools in shifting towards agile learning spaces, Jolene brings a wealth of understanding to the future direction of education. Committed to reimagining how education is perceived and experienced, Jolene leverages her broad portfolio of successful case studies to create inclusive learning spaces attuned to evolving student needs.
At the SecondClassFoundation, she continues her mission to improve education by leveraging media as a powerful tool. The foundation is actively engaged in various projects aimed at enhancing current learning spaces and amplifying their impact through the creation and dissemination of entertaining and meaningful stories via media channels. Through her leadership at the SecondClassFoundation, Jolene strives to challenge outdated perceptions of classrooms and revolutionize education for the benefit of students, educators, and communities alike.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
In order for a community to buy into what a school distract wants to do, it has to be engaged in the process. While that might sound impossible, the guests on this episode are proof that there is a productive bridge that you can build between a community and its schools. Joining the podcast are Tom Parent, Meg Parsons, and Heidi Neumueller from Saint Paul Public Schools. They talk about the power and possibility of inviting stakeholders into the process of school design. They share a broad vision for interacting with the community as well as specific ideas that have helped them shape their schools for the better.
To see what the panel is talking about during the podcast, visit the following two pages:
https://www.spps.org/Page/41681
https://www.spps.org/Page/34076
Tom Parent, AIA, serves as the Executive Director of Operations and Administration for Saint Paul Public Schools, Minnesota's largest urban school district, where he oversees 9 departments and numerous staff. His primary focus is on the involvement of communities in strategic planning of built environments, an effort that earned him recognition from the International Association of Public Participation. He is a licensed architect with significant experience in educational and non-profit settings. His credentials include being a 2013 Hubert H. Humphrey Policy Fellow at the University of Minnesota.
Margaret (Meg) Parsons, FAIA, NCARB, ALEP, LEED AP BD+C, ALEP, is a licensed Architect and Principal at Cuningham, a 320-person firm with six US locations. Since 1989, she has focused on educational projects, assisting schools with facility planning and community engagement, and leading efforts on numerous projects including the Facility Master Plan for Saint Paul Public Schools. She was elevated to the American Institute of Fellows (FAIA) in 2020 and is an Accredited Learning Environment Professional (ALEP) through A4LE. Parsons, who's licensed in 14 states, is a published author, former guest lecturer at San Diego State University, and serves as the National Council of Architectural Registration Boards (NCARB) Region 4 Board Director, and the Board Chair of Cuningham.
Heidi Neumueller brings a combination of commitment, drive, and sensitivity to each project. She is adept at leading immersive workshops, engaging with clients and user groups, to transform their vision and needs into active environments for learning. Heidi is leading conversations across the country based on her research of the key design components that contribute to safety and security of inclusive restroom design. Heidi is the 2018 recipient of the AIA Minnesota Young Architect Award.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
When the pandemic hit, every educator in America was impacted. Schools were physically closed and there was a frantic push to transform entire curricula designed for in-person learning into virtual experiences that would benefit children. In 2021, Janine and Jeff Yass started The Yass Prize to honor some of the educators who worked tirelessly for students. Since then, their work has grown to include honoring educators, schools, and initiatives who provide STOP-enabled education for students.
The Vice President of the Yass Prize, Caroline Allen, joins us for this episode. She outlines the goals of the Yass Prize and explains what it means to be a STOP school.
The Yass Prize & STOP Award Initiative The Yass Prize for Sustainable, Transformational, Outstanding and Permissionless education is a rapidly growing effort to find, reward, celebrate and expand best-in-class education organizations from every sector, in every state, and to create unprecedented partnerships that accelerate impact with the speed and urgency our students deserve.
In 2022, the Yass Prize organization awarded $20 million to winners, alumni and special state initiatives. Read more about them here and encourage others to apply. The 2023 application is now open and submissions must be received by 11:59 PM ET on Saturday, July 15, 2023.
For more information, visit www.yassprize.org.
Caroline Allen is the Vice President of the Yass Prize, and leads the team with managing and executing the application process, judging process, awardee announcements, and accelerator bootcamp. Prior to joining the Yass Prize team, she spent eight years in the classroom, teaching Special Education and elementary general education in Massachusetts, including at the nationally recognized Edward Brooke Charter School in East Boston. She is a Teach For America alum and has extensive experience working with teachers, families, community members and school leadership in the areas of professional development, teacher coaching, strategic vision planning and differentiation to meet the diverse needs of all learners. Caroline received her undergraduate and Masters of Arts in Teaching (MAT) degree from Hobart and William Smith Colleges.
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caroline-grace-allen/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/carolinegraceallen
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/caroline.dosky
Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/CarolineGAllen1
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Scott Meyer has a very unique background. He has a master's degree in Philosophy, Peace, and Conflict Transformation and he now works in the world of AI. He's the perfect guest to come speak about what's happening currently in education and how we can prepare ourselves for the future. Scott emphasizes the importance of embracing one's uniqueness and taking the "weird route" in life. He also talks about the potential for AI in education.
Scott Meter writes, teachers, and consults on AI adoption across industries. He's a Rosetta Stone for making complex tech understandable and useful. He created Five Minute AI (http://fivemin.ai/.), providing quick tutorials to help people live well and work smart with AI. His courses apply AI in specific industries such as non-profits, creative agencies, and education. You'll find him exploring the future of learning and AI through podcasts, essays, and videos at Ed3.gg.
For more on the Collaborative Learning Network, visit https://www.collaborativelearningnetwork.com/.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Our world feels chaotic and divided. That's the bad news. The good news is that the next generation of leaders are sitting in classrooms right now and we have an opportunity to prepare them for the future. Kelly Smith, founder of the microschool Prenda, joins the show to discuss the future of education and how we can break out of our silos to do the work that needs to be done. They also talk about Kelly's new book, "A Fire to be Kindled" which explores the idea that humans have the potential to solve all of our world's problems if we focus on education and personal growth.
For more on Prenda, visit https://www.prenda.com/.
For more on Kevin's new book, visit https://www.prenda.com/a-fire-to-be-kindled-book.
For more on the Collaborative Learning Network, visit https://www.collaborativelearningnetwork.com/.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
This episode beings together a roundtable of nutrition and school experts to discuss the complexities of nutritious school meals, the impact of changing dietary regulations, and innovative approaches to food education. They also explore potential changes in the area of school and nutrition, such as enhancing fruit and vegetable procurement and advocating for universally-funded meals.
Our panelists are:
Scott Anderson is a retired educator with a long history in education and food service. He now travels the nation sharing stories about food service programs through Scott's Free Lunch. Find out more at https://www.scottsfreelunch.com/.
Lindsey Hill is the founder of MenuLogic K12 and has extensive experience as a school nutrition director. She is passionate about using technology to improve school nutrition programs and empower operators with financial and operational knowledge. Find out more at https://menulogic-k12.com/.
Dr. Lennor Johnson is the Superintendent/President of Imperial Community College District, with a career dedicated to helping underserved students achieve their educational goals. He has played a crucial role in implementing programs to support students from diverse backgrounds. Find Lennor at https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennor-m-johnson-ed-d-0a395935
Kirsten Reitzammer is the director of student nutrition at Allen Independent School District. As a registered dietitian, she is committed to finding innovative ways to serve and satisfy the student population. Find Kirsten at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirsten-reitzammer-ms-rdn-55685147.
Karen Weintraub is a respected health reporter for USA Today and other leading publications. She has extensive experience in reporting on public health issues, particularly in the areas of childhood obesity and nutrition. Find out more about Karen at https://www.karenweintraub.com/.
Conor Doyle is the Digital Marketing Manager at AmTab. Learn more at https://www.linkedin.com/in/conor-doyle-465034118/.
For more on the Collaborative Learning Network, visit https://www.collaborativelearningnetwork.com/.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Research on education isn't in short supply, but being able to shuffle through the research and apply it within your building can be very daunting. With so much energy being invested into understanding the practices that will help our students and teachers succeed, how can an administrator or teacher make sense of all of it?
In this episode, we speak Dr. David Vroonland, former superintendent and the Executive DIrector of LEARN: The Learning Environments Action Resource Network. Dr. Vroonland discusses the future of schools and how LEARN aims to help superintendents stay informed and connected with important research. He also touches on the importance of action and collaboration in shaping the future of education.
Dr. David Vroonland, is serving as the first Executive Director of L.E.A.RN – an organization dedicated to providing districts, at no cost, access to research, resources and experts in the categories of Access, Safety, Health, Innovation and Sustainability. Prior to this role Dr. Vroonland was a public school educator for 36 years, with 7 of those years as Mesquite ISD’s Superintendent of Schools and 6 of those years as Frenship ISD’s Superintendent of Schools. Dr. Vroonland has been recognized with multiple awards including Region 10’s Superintendent of the Year, the Association of Texas Professional Educators’ Administrator of the Year and the Texas Educational Support Staff Association Administrator of the Year.
If you want to help support LEARN, feel free to reach out to Dr. Vroonland at dr.vroonland@gmail.com.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
It is easy to identify some of the challenges and opportunities in education. Actually doing something about it is much harder. Even with no formal background in education, Tanya Sheckley identified some opportunities for change and ended up founding UP Academy: an elementary lab school that engages children's senses wonder and curiosity by focusing on their academic, emotional and physical growth through a differentiated learning and project-based curriculum. In this episode, she talks about how she found herself starting a school, what her goals are, and what is happening next.
Tanya Sheckley is Founder and President of UP Academy, an elementary lab school which values innovation, empathy and strength and incorporates a unique neuro-development program for children with physical disabilities. Tanya's vision and mission show it's possible to celebrate differences, challenge what's broken in the American education system, and that all children can receive a rigorous well-rounded education. She is an Edupreneur, Author of Rebel Educator: Create Classrooms of Imagination and Impact and host of the Rebel Educator podcast. She speaks frequently on the future of education and entrepreneurship. She is a rebel educator who works with new and existing schools to question the status quo and develop innovative student experiences through inclusion and project-based learning.
For more information on Up Academy, visit www.upacademysf.com.
For more on Tanya Sheckly, visit www.tanyasheckley.com.
For more on the Collaborative Learning Network, visit https://www.collaborativelearningnetwork.com/.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Daniel Burrus, a futurist and author of the book "Anticipatory Organization", joins the podcast to discuss the importance of education and his passion for teaching. Rather than simply managing "crises" in the education sector, Burrus provides insight into utilizing his methodologies for solving problems. He emphasizes the idea of understanding the future by accurately anticipating it using a proven methodology.
Daniel Burrus is considered one of the World’s Leading Futurist Speakers on Global Trends and Disruptive Innovation. The New York Times has referred to him as one of the top three business gurus in the highest demand as a speaker. He is a strategic advisor to executives from Fortune 500 companies helping them to develop game-changing strategies based on his proven methodologies for capitalizing on technology innovations and their future impact. He is the author of seven books, including The New York Times and Wall Street Journal best-seller Flash Foresight, as well as the international best-seller Technotrends. His latest book, The Anticipatory Organization: Turn Disruption and Change Into Opportunity and Advantage , is an Amazon #1 Hot New Release for Business.
To get a FREE copy of his book, visit www.theaobook.com.
For more about Daniel Burrus, visit www.burrus.com.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
With a world that is changing at an breakneck pace, Susannah Johnson and Nick Salmon ask a simple question that could uppend our education system: what if K-12 education wasn't just about getting ready for college? Three for Community, their new initiative advocates that high school graduates spend three years in service to others instead of attending college. Susannah and Nick hope that this change would disrupt the treadmill churn of getting as many kids into college redirect the focus to human development, creating a better education system, and increasing opportunity for success.
Susannah Johnson is the Founder of Individualized Realized, LLC., consulting services, Personalized Learning Project, teaching global cohorts of learners, and IMPACT Bound, education reimagined. Working in partnership with What School Could Be also helps Susannah fulfill her main aim of igniting passion and purpose in education by meeting schools where they are and mapping out a transformation journey.
For more on Susannah, visit https://www.individualizedrealized.com/.
Nick Salmon is the founder and president of the Collaborative Learning Network. He is a ninth-generation educator focused on educational facility planning, professional development of educators and design support for future-flexible learning environments that cost less to design, build, own, operate and maintain. He is the world’s first self-certified educational furniture whisperer- capable of coaxing the greatest potential out of the unruliest school furnishings.
For more on the Collaborative Learning Network, visit https://www.collaborativelearningnetwork.com/.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
The world of education is constantly changing and it is hard for teachers and administrators to keep up. Futurist and author Pascal Finette shares his insights on the impact of these changes on the classroom. Topics include ChatGPT, AI, the pandemic, human reaction to disruption, TikTok as a learning platform, and how to look for early glimpses of what the future may hold.
Pascal Finette is the co-founder of be radical, EY’s wavespace Advisory Board Chair, and Jury Chair for Science and Innovation Management at Falling Walls Foundation. Previously he held leadership positions at Google.org, Mozilla, and eBay, built technology startups, and launched a Venture Capital firm. He is the posse leader at TheHeretic.org, and the cofounder of the Women’s Impact Alliance.
For more on Pascal's book, visit https://disruptthebook.com/.
For more on Pascal himself, visit https://www.finette.com/.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
The world of education is constantly changing and it is hard for teachers and administrators to keep up. Futurist and author Pascal Finette shares his insights on the impact of these changes on the classroom. Topics include ChatGPT, AI, the pandemic, human reaction to disruption, TikTok as a learning platform, and how to look for early glimpses of what the future may hold.
Pascal Finette is the co-founder of be radical, EY’s wavespace Advisory Board Chair, and Jury Chair for Science and Innovation Management at Falling Walls Foundation. Previously he held leadership positions at Google.org, Mozilla, and eBay, built technology startups, and launched a Venture Capital firm. He is the posse leader at TheHeretic.org, and the cofounder of the Women’s Impact Alliance.
For more on Pascal's book, visit https://disruptthebook.com/.
For more on Pascal himself, visit https://www.finette.com/.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Whether it is his struggles with a reading disorder or his fight against cancer, Merril Hoge has spent his entire life overcoming the odds. Before Merril Hoge played eight seasons in the NFL, he got his degree in education. Since then, he has mentored countless young people through his charitable work and his own coaching. In this episode, Merril shares his experiences in the classroom and on the football field and how it’s important to help kids “find a way”.
Merril Hoge is an eight-year NFL veteran and a former analyst for a variety of ESPN programs. Hoge is an inspirational speaker, who speaks all over the country, impacting people and companies to grow through self-reflection and taking action to Find Their Way. He is also on the board of the Chuck Noll Foundation for Brain Injury Research and was a member of the NFL Mild Traumatic Brain Injury Committee. In 2018, Hoge helped launch Your Call Football and is the author of Find a Way: Three Words That Changed My Life and Brainwashed: The Bad Science Behind CTE and the Plot to Destroy Football. Hoge continues to find new ways to make a positive impact with his mind, heart, and energy. Whether that be through his educational work, advocacy, or motivational engagements, he is a force for positive change and inspiration. He lives in Fort Thomas, Kentucky.
Learn more about Merril Hoge at www.merrilhoge.com
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
One way to support teachers as they continue to improve their skills is to provide them with instructional coaching. While it might seem like an administrator is the ideal person to provide this, today's guest explains that there is a difference between being an effective coach and being an effective administrator. Dr. Amy Illingworth explains the difference between an administrator and a coach and also shares some of her favorite techniques to help coach teachers.
Dr. Amy Illingworth currently serves as the Assistant Superintendent of Educational Services for the Encinitas Union School District in Southern California. Throughout her career Amy has served as a teacher, a literacy coach, a vice principal, a principal, and a director, at the elementary, middle, and high school levels. In addition, she has taught administrative preparation courses at the graduate college level for aspiring leaders. Amy is an avid blogger and write about her love of reaching, teacher, learning, and coaching. In fact, her book, The Coach ADVenture: Building Powerful Instructional Skills That Impact Learning, celebrates her love of coaching, and making an impact in teachers’ practices on behalf of student learning. Amy is originally from New Jersey, so she can talk fast about all of these subjects with anyone willing to listen!
You can learn more about Dr. Illingworth at her blog: https://reflectionsonleadershipandlearning.com/
More information on her book can be found here: https://reflectionsonleadershipandlearning.com/coach-adventure/
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Find out more about Kevin at https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
For more episodes of the Better Learning Podcast, visit https://www.betterlearningpodcast.com/
Who made this episode possible?
Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) - https://www.a4le.org/
Education Leaders' Organization - https://www.ed-leaders.org/
Second Class Foundation - https://www.secondclassfoundation.org/
Welcome to the Better Learning Podcast, episode 123, where we focus on ways to improve education for our kids. Today, we have two esteemed guests from Henrico County Public Schools - Mac Beaton and Beverly Cocke, who will share their progressive approach to workforce development and how they are breaking down outdated misconceptions to create opportunities for students.
Mac Beaton, the Director of Career and Technical Education for Henrico County Public Schools, has spent the last 37 years in the education sector. He started as an apprentice electrician at the Norfolk Naval Shipyard, but with his Bachelor of Science degree from Va. Tech and his Masters in Administration and Supervision for Virginia Commonwealth University, he moved on to teaching, serving as an Education Specialist, and eventually becoming the director for the past 23 years.
Mac has been recognized for his progressive approach to workforce development and most recently for the “The CTE Letter of Intent Signing Day,” which recognizes students leaving high school and entering the workforce, much like the signing day for athletes. He also led a project where students renovated 48,000 sq. ft. of an indoor mall to create an innovative learning environment for adult students, providing them with a location to “Shop for their future!” Join us as Mac shares his insights on how we can create a more innovative and progressive approach to education.
We also have Beverly Cocke, the Workforce and Career Development Specialist for Henrico County Public Schools. She has been connecting business partners and career and technical education programming for two decades, breaking down outdated misconceptions and building bridges with businesses and community partners to create opportunities for internships, job shadowing, career exploration, and employment for students. Beverly received her Bachelor of Arts from Virginia Commonwealth University and her Master of Education from University of Richmond.
We hope you enjoy this episode, where we discuss ways to create a more progressive and innovative approach to education and workforce development. Remember, students may only be 20%-25% of our population today, but they are 100% of our future. Thank you for joining us on the Better Learning Podcast with Kevin Stoller.
Episode 123 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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In this episode, Tre' shares his journey and how his inquisitive nature growing up has led him to where he is today. We talk about his passion for social-emotional learning, the importance of building social-emotional competence in schools, and the impact it can have on students' and adults' well-being.
Tre' also discusses his consultancy, SEL Educators, and how he is continuing to advocate for student and adult well-being through his work. He shares his philosophy of "facilitating purpose," which means making it easier for others to do what they love.
We also dive into Tre's educational background, including his Bachelor's degree in Psychology from Miami (OH) University and his certifications as a Global Career Development Facilitator, DISC Practitioner, Emotional Intelligence Practitioner, and Certificate in School Leadership Social Emotional Learning & Character Development.
Join us as we learn from Tre' Gammage about the importance of social-emotional learning and how it can make a difference in our schools and communities.
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On this episode, we're joined by Bob Krikac, an associate professor in the interior design program at Washington State University, and Shannon Spilker, 2019 Washington State graduate and participate in the interior design program at WSU. They share their experience working on a unique project called the SPLATT Table. The SPLATT Table is a student-led project aimed at creating a sense of belonging on campus by designing an equitable space that serves all users in equal proportion.
Shannon was scouted by her professors along with eight other students from different disciplines at WSU in 2017 to work on the project. They started by brainstorming bench ideas but realized that benches are transitory places and didn't fulfill the prompt of creating a sense of belonging. So, they pivoted and decided to make a table instead.
Since then, they've made six prototypes, conducted focus groups for ergonomics, tested anthropometrics for ADA and able-bodied users, and tweaked the design to accomplish the table's three main goals: to create an equitable space, facilitate concurrent small group interaction, and redefine belonging.
The SPLATT Table achieves these goals by using radial symmetry, having no head of the table, and offering the opportunity to interact without the necessity to. It allows people to maintain their privacy while sitting in proximity to others, creating the possibility for surprising connections to be made.
Sarah and Shannon have been committed to the SPLATT Table since their graduation, working alongside their faculty advisor, Bob Krikac, associate professor of Interior Design at WSU. They've learned valuable lessons in interdisciplinary collaboration and team building through their work on the project, which Shannon plans to incorporate in her future classroom as she pursues a Masters in Elementary Education.
Bob Krikac, who was invited to participate in the formation of the group that eventually created the SPLATT Table, continues to collaborate with Sarah and Shannon as they work to bring this unique educational product to market.
Tune in to this episode to learn more about the SPLATT Table, its design principles, and the team's journey in bringing it to life.
Episode 121 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Shannon Spilker
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In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller talks to Eric Worthington, Principal at Glen Park Academy in the Gary Community School Corporation located in Gary, Indiana. Eric shares his inspiring journey of becoming a school principal and the experiences that led him there.
The episode starts with Eric discussing his early career path and how he transitioned into education. He talks about his passion for teaching and how he realized that he could make a bigger impact on students' lives by becoming a school administrator.
Throughout the episode, Eric shares personal anecdotes and stories that have helped shape his perspective and approach to education. He emphasizes the importance of building relationships with students and their families, and creating a positive school culture where everyone feels valued and supported.
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In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller talks with Connie Edwards, Chief Business Officer for the School Superintendents of Alabama, about the importance of confidential peer networks for school leaders.
Connie shares her insights on why school leaders need a confidential space to share their challenges and concerns with peers who can relate to their experiences. She highlights the benefits of joining an exclusive peer network for school leaders like the Education Leaders' Organization (ELO).
When you become a member of ELO, you gain access to a confidential forum of 6-10 peers who meet once a month to work through the Top 5% and Bottom 5% of their lives. This forum is like a Mastermind group, but better. It's a mix of personal and professional development that has been utilized for over 40 years in other industries. The structure of the meeting pulls out meaningful discoveries by utilizing experience sharing vs. advice giving. Forum is truly a life altering experience for leaders.
Throughout the episode, Connie and Kevin discuss the benefits of peer networks, the challenges of being a school leader, and the importance of personal and professional development. They share their experiences and insights on how confidential peer networks can help school leaders navigate their roles with more confidence and effectiveness.
If you're a school leader looking for a supportive community of peers, then this episode is for you. Tune in to learn more about the benefits of joining a confidential peer network like ELO and how it can help you grow both personally and professionally.
Episode 116 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Connie Edwards
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In this episode, host Kevin Stoller takes us to the 2023 AASA conference in San Antonio, Texas. Kevin talks to 19 school leaders and asks them two questions: (1) What Keeps You Up at Night? and (2) Who Are Your Most Trusted Advisors?
The answers to these questions are alarming and shed light on the challenges that school leaders face in their day-to-day work. From student safety to budget constraints, school leaders are grappling with a range of issues that affect not only their schools but also their personal lives.
Kevin and his guests discuss the need for a peer-to-peer network exclusively for school leaders. They explore the challenges of finding a supportive community that can help school leaders work through their issues while growing personally and professionally.
Throughout the episode, Kevin and his guests offer practical tips and advice on how to navigate the challenges of being a school leader. They share their experiences and insights on how to build a supportive network and find trusted advisors.
If you're a school leader who is looking for a supportive community to help you navigate the challenges of your role, then this episode is for you. Listen in as Kevin and his guests talk through the issues that are keeping school leaders up at night and explore where they can go for help.
Episode 115 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
PJ Caposey, Superintendent
- Meridian School District
Barbara Mullen, Superintendent
- Rush-Henrietta Central School District
Nick Ouellette, Superintendent
- Hudson School District
John Robidoux, Superintendent
- Swansea Public Schools
Jesse Steiner, Superintendent
- Northwestern Local Schools
Karen Cheser, Superintendent
- Durango School District 9-R
Dr. Brian Yearwood, Superintendent
- Columbia Public Schools
Charles Johns, Superintendent
- Glenbrook High School District 225
Claudia Avery, Deputy Superintendent
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Sandy Strayer, Superintendent
- Henry County Public Schools
Dale Olinger, Superintendent
- Lolo School District 7
Mike Slagle, Superintendent
- Raymore-Peculiar School District
Sharon Kherat, Superintendent
- Peoria Public Schools District 150
Ed Nichols, Superintendent
- Madison City Schools
Thomas Bongiovi, Superintendent
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Tricia Mooney, Superintendent
- Hermiston School District
Peter Finch, Superintendent
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Mike Toole, Assistant Principal
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In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller sits down with Kendrick Wong, Senior Marketing Manager at Harvard Graduate School of Education, to discuss the reason why school superintendents are quitting their jobs at an alarming rate.
They discuss the importance of creating a culture of support and communication within school districts, as well as the need for training and development programs for school leaders to help them navigate the challenges of their role.
This episode provides valuable insights for anyone interested in the future of education leadership, and offers practical solutions for creating a more supportive and sustainable environment for school superintendents.
Episode 118 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Kendrick Wong
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In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller speaks with Joshua Samuel, Founder of Coins for College, about the importance of supplemental resources for socioeconomically disadvantaged students in accessing top colleges. Samuel introduces Coins for College, a platform where students can earn Scholarship Points through attendance, assessments, and supplemental learning. These Scholarship Points equal data points that colleges can use to make informed decisions on admissions and scholarship awards.
The discussion delves into how the Scholarship Points system works, how it can level the playing field for students who may not have had access to traditional resources, and how it can benefit colleges in creating a more diverse and inclusive student body. Samuel also shares his personal story and the inspiration behind creating Coins for College.
Episode 119 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Joshua Samuel
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In episode 117 of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller speaks with suicide prevention expert Dr. Gregory A. Hudnall about reducing youth suicide through peer intervention. Dr. Hudnall is the founder of Hope4Utah, a nonprofit organization dedicated to suicide prevention, intervention, and postvention. His school-based peer-to-peer suicide prevention program, Hope Squad, has been responsible for referring over 5,000 students for help and over 1,000 hospitalizations. The Hope Squad program is now in over 1,000 schools in the U.S. and Canada.
During the episode, Dr. Hudnall discusses the importance of early intervention and how peer-to-peer support can be an effective way to prevent youth suicide. He shares his personal experiences with suicide crisis response and highlights the impact of community collaboration in suicide prevention efforts. Dr. Hudnall emphasizes the need for schools to create a culture of connectedness and provide support to students who may be struggling with mental health issues.
Listeners will learn about the Hope Squad model, which empowers students to identify and help their peers who may be at risk of suicide. Dr. Hudnall shares success stories and best practices for implementing the program in schools. He also provides resources for listeners who want to get involved in suicide prevention efforts in their communities.
The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to become more educated and involved in suicide prevention. Dr. Hudnall urges listeners to take a proactive approach to addressing youth suicide and to work together as a community to create a safer and more supportive environment for young people.
Episode 117 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Dr. Gregory A. Hudnall
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In this roundtable discussion, four podcast hosts - Charles Fournier, Michael B. Horn, Jethro Jones, and Kevin Stoller - come together to discuss the concerning trend of teachers leaving the profession and what can be done to attract and retain great teachers in education.
Episode 114 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Charles Fournier
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Michael B. Horn
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Jethro Jones
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In this episode, host Kevin Stoller talks to two guests, Kristy Custer and Lakin Zamorano, about the rise of esports in high schools and universities. Lakin is a senior at Maize South High School in Kansas and plays on the school's Call of Duty team. He also serves as the editor in chief for One Maize Media. Kristy is the President of Educational Innovation for the High School Esports League (HSEL) and has over 24 years of experience in education, including working as a teacher, assistant principal, and principal.
They discuss the benefits of e-sports for students, including improved communication, teamwork, and problem-solving skills. They also explore the potential career opportunities in the esports industry and how it can be a pathway to higher education. Additionally, Kristy shares insights on how HSEL supports students, coaches, and schools in building and managing e-sports teams.
Episode 113 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Kristy Custer
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Lakin Zamorano
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If you think teachers are undervalued and mistreated, you should know that many teachers are leaving the profession in frustration. If things don't change, the talent pool will get even thinner as more quit. In this episode, we sit down with Charles Fournier to discuss why teachers are leaving education and explore resources available to teachers to help them professionally.
Charles Fournier teaches high school English in Cheyenne, Wyoming. He is the creator and producer of the podcast Those Who Can't Teach Anymore. When creating a new class project, he fell into freelancing for Wyoming Public Radio. He is the host of The Mountain Time Podcast Hour and the sound designer for the award-winning podcast, The Modern West. Charles is also a Fund for Teachers Fellow.
Charles' affection for public radio began in the back seat of cars. He remembers listening to Car Talk and This American Life during drives across Wyoming. Little has changed. Charles fell into volunteering as an Assistant Producer for HumaNature while creating a podcast unit for his high school students. The reporters of WPR graciously taught Charles about the production process, which led to his own contributions to WPR programming and a class project that students still enjoy.
If you enjoyed this episode, we encourage you to check out Charles' new 7-part podcast series "Those Who Can’t Teach Anymore" that is all about exploring why teachers are leaving education and what can be done to stop the exodus. You can find it on Apple, Spotify, or anywhere else you listen to your podcasts!
Episode 112 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Charles Fournier
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For 25 years, Dr. Terrie Noland has put her energy into leadership and literacy; first as a teacher and administrator, and now as a national non-profit Literacy Leader. Terrie mentor’s leaders about the latest research around the science of reading. She hosts a podcast, Learning Ally Literacy Leadership, to build a community of literacy champions.
Recognized as a national thought-leader, Terrie speaks to crowds to hear captivating stories, leadership principles, research, and best practices in Literacy, which she always delivers with humor, and inspiration.
Terrie is a Certified Academic Language Practitioner and has a Ph.D. in Literacy. She is Maxwell Leadership Certified and a member of the President's Advisory Council. She hosts the Spotlight Learning Series by Learning Ally and builds communities of educators to lead large in Literacy. Terrie's passion runs deep for children and she is truly an advocate for them and the educators who serve them.
Episode 108 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Terri Noland
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Dr. Joe Clark has been in education since 1992. He has worked as a high school English teacher and assistant principal, middle school principal, personnel director, and assistant superintendent. Currently, Joe is in his 12th year as the superintendent of the Nordonia Hills City Schools, a district serving 3,600 students in Northeast Ohio. He is also a core professor in American College of Education's Educational Leadership Master's program.
Joe spent 10 summers as a camp counselor, director, and bus driver, and 24 years as a mobile disc jockey. He received all three of his degrees at Kent State University. His dissertation is titled "A legislative and judicial analysis of sexual relationships between American secondary students and their teachers." Dr. Clark is the author of the book If the Dance Floor Is Empty, Change the Song (A Superintendent's Spin on Making Schools Rock). Dr. Clark is the youngest of 11 kids. He is married to Amie and has two adult sons. His best buddy is Frankie, a five-year-old beagle/English bulldog hybrid.
Episode 110 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Dr. Joe Clark
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Technology can be a powerful force, but not an easy force to harness in schools. But harness it we must, if we are to continue to evolve and provide opportunities for our students that they'll need in the 21st century. Bill Burr, Superintendent for the Wrangell Public Schools in Wrangell, Alaska, talks about keeping a school district relevant in today's tech-rich society.
Bill Burr has worked as a teacher, principal, tech, curriculum and assessment director, assistant superintendent and superintendent in Alaska for 26 years. He served on the Alaska Society for Technology in Education board from 2010 to 2014, serving as president three times and winning an award from ASTE/ISTE Making IT Happen. He currently serves on the CoSN Superintendent Advisory Member Board and University of Alaska Southeast Advisory Council.
Episode 111 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Bill Burr
- Wrangell Public Schools
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Sarah Hembree is the principal of Elizabeth Cobb Middle School, a progressive public middle school in Tallahassee, Florida. Under her leadership, Cobb meets the unique needs of adolescents through compassion, strong relationships, curiosity, and a lot of humor. With over 20 years of experience in secondary education, Sarah is passionate about seeing students through their journey of adolescence. During her tenure at Cobb, she is re-envisioning the idea of discipline, leading daily community-building activities, and supporting families through ongoing education and partnership. When students feel safe, seen, heard, and held in loving community, middle school turns out to be a much richer experience than the terrible cliché we’ve all come to know. With the right mix of support and engagement, Sarah knows we can tap into everyone’s superpowers and help them grow into their full potential. Unlocking others’ potential doesn’t end at the eighth grade. Sarah mentors experienced educators seeking to take on a leadership role or make their next career move. Aspiring leaders seek out Sarah’s guidance because they value her expertise in giving ongoing, actionable feedback and supportive coaching; building relationships through trust and purposeful interactions; curriculum design based on individual-student need; developing long and short-term strategic plans, and fostering an environment where every employee is valued.
Episode 109 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Who made this episode possible?
Sarah Hembree
- Elizabeth Cobb Middle School
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Schools have a vast array of capabilities, including talented teachers, motivated students, specialized facilities and equipment, and a wealth of educational resources. To fully utilize everyone's intelligence and maximize their impact, educators can employ a variety of strategies and practices that are explored in this episode of the Better Learning podcast with Liz Wiseman!
Liz Wiseman is a researcher and executive advisor who teaches leadership to executives around the world. She is the author of the New York Times bestseller Multipliers, The Multiplier Effect, and Wall Street Journal bestsellers Rookie Smarts and Impact Players.
She is the CEO of the Wiseman Group, a leadership research and development firm headquartered in Silicon Valley, California. Some of her recent clients include: Apple, AT&T, Disney, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Nike, Salesforce, Tesla, and Twitter. Liz has received the top achievement award for leadership from Thinkers50 and has been consistently named one of the world's top 50 management thinkers in its bi-annual ranking.
She has conducted significant research in the field of leadership and talent development and writes for Harvard Business Review, Fortune, and a variety of other business and leadership journals. She is a frequent guest lecturer at Brigham Young University and Stanford University and is a former executive at Oracle Corporation, where she worked as the Vice President of Oracle University and as the global leader for Human Resource Development. Liz holds a bachelor’s degree in business management and a master’s degree in organizational behavior, each from Brigham Young University.
Episode 107 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
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Liz Wiseman
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Dr. Scott Muri has demonstrated a passion and ability for leading change, driving organizational effectiveness, and significantly improving student achievement while closing achievement gaps. With a focus on collaboration and excellence, Dr. Muri creates a positive and effective teaching and learning environment.
Dr. Muri joined the Ector County ISD family as Superintendent of Schools on July 1, 2019. Prior to that, he spent four years as the Superintendent of Schools for Spring Branch Independent School District in Houston, TX. During that time achievement gaps narrowed in all academic areas while overall student achievement rose. He fostered innovation in the system by incorporating the redesign process to transform the student learning experience.
Prior to taking over at Spring Branch ISD, Dr. Muri served as the Deputy Superintendent of Academics in Fulton County Schools in Atlanta, Georgia, a large school district with 96,000 students and 100 campuses.
Before joining FCS in Atlanta, Dr. Muri spent five years with Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools in Charlotte, North Carolina. His roles included Area Superintendent, Zone Superintendent, and Chief Information Officer overseeing research and evaluation, along with technology infrastructure and instructional technology innovation.
Dr. Muri’s educational experiences include serving as one of the first National Board Certified Teachers in the United States, high school principal, and administrator at Disney’s Celebration School in Celebration, FL.
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Dr. Anne-Marie Imafidon MBE is a prodigy in every sense of the word. Aged 11, she was the youngest girl ever to pass A-level computing, and was just 20 years old when she received her Master’s Degree in Mathematics and Computer Science from the University of Oxford.
Since then, she has forged an enviable CV, including positions at Goldman Sachs, Hewlett-Packard and Deutsche Bank. Then there are the Honorary Doctorates from Open University, Glasgow Caledonian University, Kent University, Bristol University & Coventry University and an Honorary Fellowship at Keble College, Oxford. She is also a Visiting Professor at the University of Sunderland and sits on the Council of Research England.
It is this wealth of experience and pioneering spirit that led her to co-found the Stemettes, an award-winning social initiative dedicated to inspiring and promoting the next generation of young women in the STEM sectors. Since its inception 10 years ago, it has exposed 60,000 young people across Europe to Anne-Marie’s vision for a more diverse and balanced science and tech community. In 2022 she released her new book She’s in CTRL a guidebook for women to take back tech.
In recognition of her influence and achievements, Anne-Marie was awarded an MBE in the 2017 New Year’s Honours for services to young women and STEM sectors. In June 2017, she became an Honorary Fellow at Keble College, Oxford and in 2020 was voted the most influential woman in tech in the UK by Computer Weekly.
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Adam Bellow began his career in the classroom as a High School English teacher. He has worked as a technology training specialist, Director of Educational Technology, and is highly sought after as a speaker and thought leader on educational technology. Adam is a serial EdTech entrepreneur and was the founder of the eduTecher, eduClipper, WeLearnedIt, and eduGames. Currently, Adam is the co-founder and CEO of Breakout EDU, the educational gaming platform that inspires learners to think outside the box by solving complex problems together. Prior to Breakout, Adam served as a Presidential Innovation Fellows for the Obama White House as well as having served as a board member of the EdCamp Foundation and an advisor to Alma, a modern SIS. He is also the co-founder of two amazing kids. Episode 104 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Lisa Bodell is a futurist, best-selling author, and serial entrepreneur who has started three successful businesses in the strategy and innovation space. She is the founder and CEO of FutureThink, an innovation consulting firm that uses radically simple techniques to help companies challenge the status quo and proactively embrace change.
Her two award-winning books: Kill The Company, and Why Simple Wins, have been recognized for their immediate ability to ignite change within organizations, providing techniques that eliminate complexity and help teams get to the work that matters. As a global speaker, she brings her compelling message to over 100,000 people a year– showing them how to make space for change and think more creatively about the future. Her work has transformed teams within organizations like Google, Pfizer, the U.S. Navy War College, Lockheed Martin, and more.
Bodell has taught innovation and futuring at American University and Fordham University, and is an advisor on boards such as National Security Agency and the Global Advisory Council for the World Economic Forum.
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Starr Sackstein is a recovering perfectionist who is an assessment reforming enthusiast.
Currently, she is the COO of Mastery Portfolio, an Edtech Startup committed to helping schools move to Standard-Based communication. Additionally, she works with teacher teams to engage students in the learning process, advocates for personal growth, and effectively use student data to drive instruction.
She was a high school English and journalism teacher for 16 years, a lead Humanities learner for 2 years, a publisher and developmental editor, and social media manager. Starr is an author, blogger, and speaker committed to changing the way we do assessments nationally and globally. You can learn more about her work on her website MsSackstein.com, and you can follow her on Twitter @MsSackstein. When Starr isn’t advocating for students and educators, she is a mom and partner looking for the next adventure.
Episode 102 of the Better Learning Podcast
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David Reinhart is a design professional and an educational leader that is situated in the fourth fastest growing community in the United States - West Ada School District in Idaho. And as you may see in your own community, change is constantly happening whether that's through cultural, religious, economic, environmental, scientific and even technological forces.
But to be a part of one of the fastest-growing communities in the United States, it's hard to accommodate for all of the emotions and reactions that the community will have as tough decisions need to be made.
Having begun his career as a landscape architect, David specialized in community planning and neighborhood restoration. Later, David entered educational leadership and quickly found himself, once again, working with community groups to do K-12 facility master planning in school districts that were both growing and retracting.
Currently, concluding his doctoral studies at Gonzaga University, David is studying the role the community plays in facility master planning in a district that is made up of 58 schools and 40,000 students.
Season 8, Episode 1 of the Better Learning Podcast
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We are all familiar with the challenges that COVID brought to school districts around the country. It was very disruptive to families. It was very disruptive to educators. Everyone. This led to a lot of lost boundaries, structure, and rythems in which we are built for. This led to teachers struggling to find the end of their work day which negatively impacted their mental health, family life, and much more.
Aaron Buehring is the Director of Educational Environments at the A&D firm Lionakis. His background as a professional anthropologist and interior designer offers a unique perspective on how humans interact with space and environments which informs his design process and outcomes. Aaron is passionate about delivering the most current thought leadership in NextGen learning environments through continuous learning, leading his own research initiatives, and presenting at educational conferences. In addition to designing schools, Aaron has created, invented, and developed numerous successful school furniture designs currently on the market. Throughout his career, Aaron has won numerous California design awards as well as the Best in Competition at the 2017 and 2019 Ed Spaces Innovation Awards.
Anna Iversen is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist currently working with the Student Health Clinic at the University of California, Santa Cruz where she provides behavioral health consultation and supports efforts towards integrated health care. Additional areas of interest and expertise include anxiety, developmental trauma, PTSD, addressing addiction and other unsafe behaviors, grief and loss, co-dependency, relationship skills and working with individuals who have chronic medical conditions to improve their overall functioning.
Season 7, Episode 6 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Diego Barrera is an optimist who believes in the power of design to improve people’s lives. He serves as a design principal at Stantec Architecture and has over fifteen years of experience in education design. Diego creates innovative solutions for a broad range of education projects, specializing in planning, visioning, and design. As accredited learning environment planner, Diego partners with students, educators, and communities to envision the future of their educational environments.
As leader of Stantec’s Innovative Learning Environments research + benchmarking group, Diego explores approaches to creating forward-thinking educational spaces. He delivers progressive designs that respond to client's needs by implementing a comprehensive process developed through a solid understanding of the client’s vision.
Season 7, Episode 13 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Lesley Woodland is an Architectural Technologist with Technical Services Branch and the coordinator of the Post Occupancy Evaluation (POE) Program at Alberta Infrastructure. These roles lead her to be active in the technical and design reviews of projects, contributing to the development of design guidelines produced by the Branch and communication of Lessons Learned from POEs.
Prior working for Alberta Infrastructure, she worked as a senior technologist in the private sector on many large scale capital projects, including K-12 schools and postsecondary education facilities. Lesley is a Certified Engineering Technologist, Past-President of the Association for Learning Environments Alberta Chapter and has spoken at several national conferences on the subject of Post Occupancy Evaluations.
Season 7, Episode 1 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Ewan McIntosh is the founder of NoTosh, a consulting and content company with a global reputation for pioneering collaborative, human-informed approaches to the design of built environments, learning experiences and strategy. He served as strategy advisor to the Vice President of the European Commission, to several Education Cabinet Secretaries, and was retained to design and lead the most successful digital election campaign in Scotland.
The passionate and energizing tour de force behind NoTosh, Ewan is a highly-regarded keynote speaker and host, he marries intense preparatory work, has a natural capacity to listen, and dynamic presentation skills to shine a light on the opportunities schools have right now to transform their practice.
NoTosh sees a world in which people have the creative confidence to find their place in a team and achieve something bigger than they are.
Season 7, Episode 2 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Kevin J. Walsh has a passion for helping school districts achieve greater student experience goals by understanding how funding can work as a support mechanism for long-term planning. In his day to day, he incorporates intentional design into every level of project planning, trying to discover ways to make a purposeful change to the learning environment even through the most mundane types of infrastructure projects.
Personally, Kevin has a willingness to always learn and always stay curious while being dedicated to doing the right thing. His main motivation in life is to communicate what’s inside and to see the best in people while staying dedicated to his career of improving the built environment to make a lasting and positive contribution.
Season 7, Episode 3 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Irene offers varied experience in educational and institutional facilities. Her experience in the design of academic facilities ranges from renovation to new construction. As President of IN2 Architecture, Irene is involved in all aspects of a project, including visioning, programming, master planning, schematic design, design development, construction documents and contract administration.
Irene keeps up with the latest instructional & curriculum trends in school design, ensuring her client’s buildings are designed with student success in mind. She has earned the A4LE Lifetime Achievement Award for her contributions to the world of educational facility design and planning, and is a A4LE Fellow. She is also an instructor in the Advanced Academy for Educational Facility Environments, and serves on the executive committee of the Collaborative for High performance Schools (CHPS).
Season 7, Episode 5 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Wayne is a Principal at HKS Architects, Inc. in Dallas since 2014. As the K-12 Studio Practice leader, he serves K-12 public school clients with a comprehensive knowledge and passionate determination to achieve their objectives. He brings over thirty years’ experience designing educational facilities, having led numerous planning efforts in over 20 Southern Region school districts.
Registered as an REFP in 2012, Wayne has been deeply involved in A4LE at both the Chapter and Region Board levels. He has fostered and promoted key forward-looking initiatives throughout his career, becoming WELL AP certified in 2018. His Article titled Designing for Student Wellness was published in the Fall 2019 edition of Learning By Design.
Wayne has also been an advocate of safe school design. A member of the International Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design Association (ICA), he has presented at symposiums and conferences on this subject throughout the years at the request of professionals and clients.
Season 7, Episode 8 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Molly Smith believes in celebrating the intersection of educational vision, community values and creative design. She is an educational planner, facilitator, author, speaker, and AZ community member. She is a former Principal in Charge of a southwest based architecture and engineering firm of over 100 employees; the founder of thinkSMART planning - which is an educational facility planning firm committed to the creation of learning environments that support the latest thinking in teaching and learning; and a sitting international board representative for the Association for Learning Environments – a 4000+ member organization of planners, educators, architects, and educational environment vendors.
Currently, she provides expert leadership in facility planning and programming, comprehensive master plans and strategic plans for educational facilities all over the US. Her broad-ranging experience includes facility programming, master and long-range planning, space utilization analysis, budget and financial analysis, and site selections for well over $1B of educational space over the last 20+ years. Molly has been fortunate to work nationally with a wide range of award-winning design firms and prominent educational and institutional clients creating amazing environments for teaching, learning, and working.
Season 7, Episode 9 of the Better Learning Podcast
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School renovation and new construction is an exciting process. When it’s done correctly, it can help students succeed in a collaborative, newly-designed 21st-century environment. It’s obviously important to create a plan to help you match your curriculum, but what is even more important is getting students involved and letting them have a voice in the decision-making process.
Bryan Byerlee is the Principal at Garden City Elementary, part of Cranston Public Schools in Cranston, Rhode Island. As a former classroom teacher, Bryan has a deeply rooted passion for creating dynamic learning experiences, engaging students, educators, and staff alike within their learning community. Bryan received a Masters of Education from Providence College, with an emphasis in Elementary and Middle School Administration/Principalship.
Michelle Carpenter is the chief strategy officer (CSO) at Natural Pod, a company focused on creating better learning environments. Michelle specializes in developing, communicating, executing, and sustaining strategic initiatives, ensuring Natural Pod thoughtfully supports students and educators within their learning environments. She is an advocate for including student voice in the design process to ensure learning spaces ahead meet them where they are, and help them reach their full potential. Michelle is also actively involved in A4LE, primarily in support of SchoolsNEXT, a student design competition for learning spaces.
Jennifer Leyva, Sr. Designer and Project Manager at Fielding International, has been designing and planning schools around the world for over 15 years of experience. Her passion for creating healthy and engaging learning environments are exemplified in some of Fielding International’s most notable designs, including Col.legi Montserrat in Barcelona, Spain; the Academy of Holy Names in Tampa, Florida; and, at the International School of Kazan in the Republic of Tatarstan, Russia. Working closely with Fielding’s Design Architects, our in-house Educators, students and teachers, Jennifer ensures that school interiors function as 21st century educational spaces, allowing for maximum flexibility and variety with furniture selections, and that they are aesthetically inspiring with interior details, lighting, finishes and color selections. Her goal is to help ensure schools provide a safe place for students to be uninhibited creatively, academically, and inspired for a lifetime of learning.
Season 7, Episode 10 of the Better Learning Podcast
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The environments we create have a positive impact on students' lives. With a vision to enhance life through design, Sami, John and Brendon live that vision every day which helps them create extraordinary solutions.
Brendon defines success as helping other people. Back in 1989, Brendon started out at Kingscott as an intern, creating ink drawings of completed buildings for the marketing department. He had no way of knowing that his career path would lead him to become Kingscott’s seventh President. In addition to his role as President, he is also is the company's K-12 leader and a CEFPI certified educational planner. From working together with his clients to formulate extraordinary solutions that help students succeed, Brendon possesses exceptional problem-solving skills.
As a Design Architect at Kingscott, Sami solves challenges through architecture, creating spaces that reflect communities and improve their daily lives. Sami maintains the philosophy that architecture must follow the lead of its users and accommodate their needs - from the day-to-day, to the special occasion - and adapt over time to meet those needs. Sami views schools and their communities as true partners in the design process, combining their expertise of the many functional needs of the space with her expertise in creative cohesive design solutions that adapt and grow with the users.
John Davids has had a diverse career that includes professional practice as a designer/studio leader, providing volunteer architectural work for community organizations, and as Architect-in-Residence at Frank Lloyd Wright's "Snowflake House." He believes in Public Education and works hard every day to do his part in making great spaces for teaching and learning because he believes in kids!
Season 7, Episode 4 of the Better Learning Podcast
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The Del Mar Union School District in San Diego, California is a district of thinking, inspiration, and impact. Their students experience a high-quality instructional core defined by strong academics and superb instructional practice. They chart the course through high standards, top-performing staff, and meaningful learning experiences. Engaging, flexible learning environments are alive with critical thinking, real-world applications to solving problems, and curiosity that is encouraged via creativity and innovation.
Dr. Holly McClurg is the Superintendent of Del Mar Union School District, a San Diego elementary school district with a mission to ignite genius and empower students to change the world. Dr. McClurg believes in the unrelenting pursuit of the extraordinary school experience and that we must seize opportunities to revolutionize the traditional school system. She embraces doing things differently and better for students to help prepare them to meet the needs of today’s world. Dr. McClurg is proud to be in DMUSD, a dynamic and forward-thinking district. She earned a Ph.D. from the University of California, Riverside, Master of Arts from Point Loma Nazarene University, and a Bachelor of Science degree from the University of North Dakota. She served as a teacher, principal, director and assistant superintendent before becoming the Superintendent at DMUSD.
Jessica Morales is an educator with 21 years of experience in education. After spending 12 years in the classroom refining her instructional practices, she has continued to serve students and educators as an Assistant Principal, Principal, and Director of Curriculum and Instruction. She is passionate about innovative practices that shape the school experience to be one of relevancy, rigor, and joy. Mrs. Morales redesigns learning spaces to increase agility, enhance comfort and propel learning. She has modernized over 80 learning spaces across eight Del Mar Union School District school campuses and designed the interior spaces of Pacific Sky School.
Shelley Petersen is the Assistant Superintendent of Instructional Services that oversees professional learning and district initiatives related to teaching and learning. She has been an educator for more than 30 years and has been in the Del Mar Union School District since 2005 and her current position since 2012. Shelley is passionate about redesigning educational structures to meet the needs of today’s students. She takes a child-centered approach to ensuring educators are equipped with skills and insights allowing them to be responsive to what students want and need.
Season 7, Episode 7 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Jason Boone is a former high school mathematics teacher practicing as an educational facility planner to create next generation learning environments. He has a particular interest in exploring the future of education and educational facilities. He recently facilitated a discussion with educators, architects, and planners about how our American education system came to be where it is and where it might go at the international LearningScapes conference of the Association for Learning Environments.
Jason has a deep belief that high quality educational experiences (particularly K-12 ones) are critical to students' realizing their fullest human potential, lifelong happiness, and positive contributions to society. In his current position at Dore & Whittier Architects, based in Newburyport, Massachusetts, Jason serves as an educational facility planner and Project Manager with a focus on American K-12 educational projects ensuring that the built environment effectively supports the needs of students, teachers, and communities.
In addition to these responsibilities, Jason also serves on two Executive Boards for the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE), a professional association that is partnered with the Better Learning Podcast dedicated to improving the educational experience of students across the globe by exploring the intersection of learning and place.
Season 7, Episode 12 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Dr. Raechel French is passionate about helping schools design and use their spaces better and has been actively researching and working in the educational architecture industry for over a decade. In this time, Dr. French found that even the best planning processes often do not lead to the school envisioned. She toured project after project of award-winning work to see collaborative spaces empty, glass walls covered in paper, locked small group rooms, and lecture instruction in spaces meant for student-led, multi-modal work. The movement towards providing these innovative learning spaces is far outpacing the delivery of professional development and organizational shifts that would allow them to achieve their potential. The gap between design intent and reality is commonplace.
To better understand this gap, she joined the Learning Environments Applied Research Network (LEaRN) at the University of Melbourne through a Fulbright Postgraduate Scholarship in 2017, working on the Innovative Learning Environments and Teacher Change (ILETC) project. She continued this work in the United States through her PhD research.
Dr. French's research elevates the importance of school community development, particularly building positive and trusting relationships among teachers. These relationships are prerequisite to achieving the goals envisioned around innovative learning spaces since these often require more collaboration and sharing of both space and students. Her work also proposes a "Systems View of an ILE" in which intentional Physical and Organizational Supports serve as "nudges" to reduce the complexity of spatial shifts and enable shifts in practice.
Season 7, Episode 11 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Why does research into learning spaces matter? And how do you conduct it?
Murray Hudson and former teacher Bhavini Pandya will take you through one of the most important new research studies into the relationship between pedagogy and space. They will reveal how a detailed three-year study was put into place in a working school, with unique access to the pupil’s test scores. The results show that optimizing the learning environment leads to better educational outcomes. QED.
Murray Hudson is the co-author of Planning Learning Spaces; A practical guide for architects, designers and school leaders. The book demonstrates cutting-edge approaches to educational space design, from primary to college studies, and explains how these spaces support education and enhance learning experiences. Murray is also Managing Director of Gratnells Ltd, the leading manufacturer of school storage and space optimization. Murray travels extensively, visiting schools across the world to better understand how to create the optimal learning environment. Murray has worked in the education industry for more than twenty years and is a member EdMarket USA Equipment Manufacturers Council. He lives in Cambridge, UK and can be spotted on his bike at weekends.
Bhavini Pandya is a former primary school teacher and leads the Planning Learning Spaces in Practice team. The team works directly with schools across the world to demonstrate how the practices outlined in the book can improve learning environments and shape the minds of our future generation. Bhavini was key in running the Cambridge research project in the school where she used to work. To the children at Trumpington Park Primary School she is still ‘Miss Pandya.’
Season 6, Episode 32 of the Better Learning Podcast
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What is the biggest challenge your school district has been trying to overcome for years?
In most cases today, School Leaders would say the implementation of innovation that can be felt throughout the school district. We call this, challenging the status quo.
Innovative trends are only going to continue to accelerate in the coming years with the development of artificial intelligence and augmented reality. Why? Because embracing innovation for our students will provide them with the necessary tools to succeed the challenges of the future workplace settings and give them the skills in order to continuing adapting as our world continues to evolve.
That is why many schools like The Meadows School in Las Vegas, Nevada have implemented what we call a Chief Innovation Officer. Joseph Carver, formerly the Director of Technology at Carrollton School of the Sacred Heart, took over the newly created position back in 2021 with over twenty years of experience in higher and secondary education. In his current position he oversees the direction of Technology, Student Support Services, Enrichment Programing and Professional Development. This past year, The Meadows School launched an aggressive Professional Development program geared toward faculty growth and retention, distributing a quarter of a million dollars across three distinct tracks. Conceived by Carver, the program alleviates faculty loan debt while also subsidizing ongoing learning opportunities.
He is the father of a son, Jay and daughter, Madeline and is married to Dana Randall, the former Director of Debate at Carrollton School of the Sacred Heart and an Emory University Key Coach.
Season 6, Episode 31 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Systemic transformation of education requires a sense of urgency by its decision-makers, leaders, and practitioners fueled by input from the community we serve. Our guest in this episode, Brad Latzke, is keenly interested in supporting individuals, teacher teams, school leadership, and school communities in a better understanding of how coming shifts in education will be historic and inevitable. Short-term linear thinking and planning need to be coupled with the acceptance of an ambiguous future influenced by exponential change.
Brad is a former middle school principal at Hong Kong International School and served previously as principal at Shanghai American School – Puxi Campus and American School of Doha. He has taught and served in school leadership positions at international schools in Colombia, Saudi Arabia, Tanzania, Qatar, China, and Hong Kong.
Brad is highly skilled and experienced in all facets of middle school teaching and leadership, K-12 assessment including standards-based assessment and reporting, collaborative leadership, international education, leading teacher & administrative collaborative groups, and public speaking.
Season 6, Episode 30 of the Better Learning Podcast
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Jason Barger is committed to engaging the minds and hearts of people in order to develop authentic leaders and cultures. He is the author of the bestselling books "Breathing Oxygen" "Thermostat Cultures" "ReMember" and "Step Back from the Baggage Claim" and is a sought-after keynote speaker and consultant.
Prior to sleeping in airports and observing human behavior, Barger led over 1700 people to construct 125 houses internationally for families living in poverty as well as implemented the Streets Mission Project to serve the homeless on the streets of Columbus, Ohio. As the former Director of First Community Church’s Camp Akita, he designed programming focused on living with joy, love, compassion, faith, and service for over 1900 campers a summer. Jason is a graduate of Denison University, where he served as Captain of the men’s basketball team, and also received certification from Georgetown University in Nonprofit Executive Management. In 2004, he was one of five people in Columbus, Ohio to receive a Jefferson Award, a national award given to “Ordinary People Doing Extraordinary Things”. In 2014, he was selected as a 40 Under 40 award winner by Business First. In 2021, Jason was recognized as a Top 200 Global Thought-Leader to follow. Jason is a sought-after Keynote Speaker, visionary, and consultant. As founder of Step Back Leadership Consulting LLC, he works with organizations that are passionate about Culture Change, Leadership Development, Innovation, Service, and bringing their Mission to life everyday.
Season 6, Episode 29 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Writing is the only work Ryan knows that gives him an unbeatable excuse to go out and talk to neighbors, to watch Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood on a weekday morning, and to dig deeper into the problems that he cares about.
Ryan Rydzewski is an award-winning author and speaker. As a science and education writer, his stories focus on everything from schools to space travel to Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood, and he regularly leads workshops for educators, parents, and neighbors. He's the co-author, with Gregg Behr, of WHEN YOU WONDER, YOU'RE LEARNING: MISTER ROGERS' ENDURING LESSONS FOR RAISING CREATIVE, CURIOUS, CARING KIDS.
As a graduate of the University of Pittsburgh, Ryan taught an extraordinary group of fifth graders before earning an MFA in nonfiction from Chatham University. Mister Rogers' Neighborhood was produced in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania by Mister Rogers' non-profit production company Family Communications, Inc. which helped form Ryan's interest in Mister Rogers' Neighborhood.
Season 6, Episode 28 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Scott Bess set out to break the one-size-fits-all high school academic mold and launch Purdue Polytechnic High School where students learn in an engaging, hands-on environment and are inspired to seek out what they learn rather than be told what to learn.
As Head of School, Scott created the vision and strategy for the initial Purdue Polytechnic High School in 2017. He has subsequently opened two more campuses. He is leading the planning for the expansion of Purdue Polytechnic High School throughout the state of Indiana.
Scott has spent most of his career innovating new ways to teach students and instill in them a love to learn. Prior to joining Purdue Polytechnic High School, Scott was President of Goodwill Education Initiatives and founder of The Excel Center, which offers adults who have dropped out of school an opportunity to earn a diploma. He helped expand The Excel Center’s model across the nation and today, The Excel Center serves more than 6,000 students in multiple states.
A proud graduate of Purdue University (B.S., Mathematics) and Marian University (M.A., Education), Scott has been a teacher, IT executive and business owner. He is a Pahara Fellow, has served on the boards for the Danville Community School District and EmployIndy, and currently serves on the Central Indiana Board of Ivy Tech Community College, the Region 5 Works Council and the Washington, DC, Goodwill Excel Center. Additionally, Scott was appointed to the State Board of Education in September of 2021.
Scott has four grown children and lives in Danville, Indiana, with his wife, Robin.
Season 6, Episode 27 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast, Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture, and Executive Director of Education Leaders' Organization, the exclusive peer network for School Leaders.
This month revealed some amazing results with over $40B passed bonds for school capital funding around the country.
In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, we sit down with Rachel Wisnefski, PhD who has over 15 years of extensive experience in business development and education market expertise. She serves as Chief Revenue Officer for The Amos Group.
The Amos Group is the parent company of SchoolBondFinder and SchoolNetwork. SchoolBondFinder is the first comprehensive, online database tracking K12 bond–funded capital improvement projects in the United States for solution providers. SchoolNetwork is a networking platform for K12 District Administrators to connect and collaborate; share funding project documents; review solution providers; and advertise RFP/RFQs nationwide.
In addition to her oversight on all customer-facing operations of The Amos Group, she also represents the company to current and prospective stakeholders, policymakers, partners, and government entities for the purpose of raising awareness of the brand in the private and public sectors. Dr. Wisnefski also serves as an elected representative on the Beaufort County Board of Education, serving the Beaufort County School District’s diverse student body of over 22,000 students. She previously served on the Board of Trustees for the Beaufort Jasper County Academy of Career Excellence, and also presently serves on the Board of Directors for the Education Market Association (EDmarket).
Season 6, Episode 26 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast, Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture, and Executive Director of Education Leaders' Organization, the exclusive peer network for School Leaders.
The Savannah Bananas think there’s a better way to do almost everything. So they try it all. Some people may think they’re crazy. But they are okay with that. No matter what, they just want one thing - to make baseball fun and ultimately give fans the best possible experience at the ballpark.
They call this Fans First.
Emily Cole is the owner of the Savannah Bananas with her husband, Jesse Cole, which is all about making baseball fun with a Fans First mentality. They're passionate about making baseball fun and are currently planning the 2023 Banana Ball World Tour which will take the Bananas across the US. They are also licensed foster parents and currently have 3 kiddos in their home.
Prior to her work with Fans First Entertainment which began in 2011, Emily spent time with Ripken Baseball and the Augusta GreenJackets as well as the Vermont Lake Monsters and the Binghamton Mets. Emily’s biggest passion with the team is working with the full-time staff, interns, and hundreds of game-day staff workers to focus on the culture, service, and logistics of events held at the ballpark.
Season 6, Episode 25 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast, Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture, and Executive Director of Education Leaders' Organization, the exclusive peer network for School Leaders.
The Savannah Bananas think there’s a better way to do almost everything. So they try it all. Some people may think they’re crazy. But they are okay with that. No matter what, they just want one thing - to make baseball fun and ultimately give fans the best possible experience at the ballpark.
They call this Fans First.
Emily Cole is the owner of the Savannah Bananas with her husband, Jesse Cole, which is all about making baseball fun with a Fans First mentality. They're passionate about making baseball fun and are currently planning the 2023 Banana Ball World Tour which will take the Bananas across the US. They are also licensed foster parents and currently have 3 kiddos in their home.
Prior to her work with Fans First Entertainment which began in 2011, Emily spent time with Ripken Baseball and the Augusta GreenJackets as well as the Vermont Lake Monsters and the Binghamton Mets. Emily’s biggest passion with the team is working with the full-time staff, interns, and hundreds of game-day staff workers to focus on the culture, service, and logistics of events held at the ballpark.
Season 6, Episode 25 of the Better Learning Podcast
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast, Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture, and Executive Director of Education Leaders' Organization, the exclusive peer network for School Leaders.
"What do you want to be when you grow up?"
Everyone remembers this class activity and you may even remember what your answer was throughout the years. But what's crazy, is that about 60% of teenagers are interested in someday starting their own business.
Sixty Percent.
If over half of our kids want to be entrepreneurs, why don't more of our schools help support them? Well, that's what a new school out in Aurora, Colorado has set out to do.
Laura Burke is a 23-year veteran of the K-12 system and has served as a classroom teacher, assistant principal, special education district administrator, and principal on special assignments working in leadership development. She is now the founding principal of the Clara Brown Entrepreneurial Academy, a new magnet school in Aurora, CO, and the first and only K-8 public school in the state focused on entrepreneurial education in Colorado.
Clara Brown is an inclusive community where everyone is empowered to be innovative risk-takers and creators of their own futures. Here, children learn how to develop and act on their ideas to become tomorrow's entrepreneurs and inventors.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
"What do you want to be when you grow up?"
Everyone remembers this class activity and you may even remember what your answer was throughout the years. But what's crazy, is that about 60% of teenagers are interested in someday starting their own business.
Sixty Percent.
If over half of our kids want to be entrepreneurs, why don't more of our schools help support them? Well, that's what a new school out in Aurora, Colorado has set out to do.
Laura Burke is a 23-year veteran of the K-12 system and has served as a classroom teacher, assistant principal, special education district administrator, and principal on special assignments working in leadership development. She is now the founding principal of the Clara Brown Entrepreneurial Academy, a new magnet school in Aurora, CO, and the first and only K-8 public school in the state focused on entrepreneurial education in Colorado.
Clara Brown is an inclusive community where everyone is empowered to be innovative risk-takers and creators of their own futures. Here, children learn how to develop and act on their ideas to become tomorrow's entrepreneurs and inventors.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
In years past, you could look at the mission statement of any school district in the country and break it down into two categories - trying to get kids into college or trying to get kids into a better college. That's it. And even though high schools across the country usually promote a four-year college degree as the main option, that path is not right for every student — and not everyone is prepared for it.
Over the last couple of years, we have seen a national shift where some school districts are pushing away from this because of factors like COVID and the national student debt. But what if the workforce deemphasized the importance of college for skills you can teach yourself?
Anya Kamenetz is the author of several books: Generation Debt (Riverhead, 2006); DIY U: Edupunks, Edupreneurs, and the Coming Transformation of Higher Education (Chelsea Green, 2010); The Test: Why Our Schools Are Obsessed With Standardized Testing, But You Don’t Have To Be (Public Affairs, 2016); The Art of Screen Time: How Your Family Can Balance Digital Media and Real Life (Public Affairs, 2018); and finally her latest book The Stolen Year: How Covid Changed Children’s Lives, And Where We Go Now (Public Affairs, 2022).
In this episode, we dive into different conversations that overlap Kamenetz's several acclaimed books on learning and the future.
Kamenetz was named a 2010 Game Changer in Education by the Huffington Post, received 2009, 2010, and 2015 National Awards for Education Reporting from the Education Writers Association, won an Edward R. Murrow Award for innovation in 2017 along with the rest of the NPR Ed team, and the 2022 AERA Excellence in Media Reporting on Education Research Award. She’s been a New America fellow, a staff writer for Fast Company Magazine and a columnist for the Village Voice. She’s contributed to The New York Times, The Washington Post, New York Magazine and Slate, and been featured in documentaries shown on PBS, CNN, HBO and Vice. She frequently speaks on topics related to children, learning and technology, to audiences including at Google, Apple, and Sesame, SXSW and TEDx.
Kamenetz grew up in Baton Rouge and New Orleans, Louisiana, in a family of writers and mystics, and graduated from Yale University. She lives in Brooklyn with her husband and two daughters.
Teachers can't replace parents and schools can't solve all student ills. Yet in a lot of ways, our educational system still demands these efforts from our schools.
Erin Jones has been involved in and around schools for the past 26 years. She has taught in a variety of environments and some of the most diverse communities in the nation. In this episode, we dive into her passion for change and her initiatives to help make the change a reality.
Erin received an award as the Most Innovative Foreign Language Teacher in 2007, while teaching in Tacoma and was the Washington State Milken Educator of the Year in 2008, while teaching in Spokane. She received recognition at the White House in March of 2013 as a "Champion of Change” and was Washington State PTA’s “Outstanding Educator” in 2015.
After serving as a classroom teacher and instructional coach, Erin worked as an executive for two State Superintendents. Erin left the Office of Superintendent of Public Instruction in 2012 to work in college-access at the school district level. She left her job to run as a candidate for State Superintendent and was the first Black woman to run for any state office in Washington state, a race she lost by a mere 1%.
Erin has 3 adult children - a daughter who graduated from Central Washington University and works for the Equity in Education Coalition, a son who is a second-year graduate student at USC and one who attends college and coaches high school football and rugby with her husband of 27 years, James, who is a teacher and football coach in North Thurston School District.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
There is an urgency to support our students, teachers, and communities with learning environments that heal, nurture, and inspire. So how can our schools remake themselves to benefit health, learning, and feelings of belonging?
Our guest Claire Latané (la-ta-nay) is a writer, ecological designer, and Associate Professor of Landscape Architecture at California State Polytechnic University, Pomona (Cal Poly Pomona) and takes a deep dive into this question. She applies landscape architecture and neuroscience research connecting designed environments with mental health, safety, academic success, and physical and social outcomes to create healthier school and community environments.
Her book Schools That Heal: Design with Mental Health in Mind, was released by Island Press last summer. In 2021 she founded the Collaborative for Healthy and Inclusive Learning Environments through Cal Poly Pomona’s Lyle Center for Regenerative Studies.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
What was you experience as a kid with school?
Too many schools around the world still operate in a traditional manner, leaving future students to experience these same challenges that we faced years ago. If we are going to improve education, we need to continue to challenge the status quo and create change for education.
In 2015 Travis was recognized for his work with integrating technology into classrooms by being named TIE Technology Leader of the Year. Travis believes that by empowering learners to drive their learning we can start to create a new system that honors all learners and their cultures.
When Travis is not at work you can find him spending time together with his wife Lynn and their two boys DJ (4) and Tyler (1).
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Community involvment is crucial when districts go through new construction or renovation.
Chris Potts, who is the Chief Operating Officer for the Upper Arlington City School District located in Columbus, Ohio, takes a deep dive into how the district went about getting community support during their major renovation projects just a couple of years ago.
Chris leads the day-to-day operations of the Upper Arlington City School District. His department of talented directors oversees nutritional services, transportation, capital improvements, maintenance, grounds, and custodial operations, as well as human resources for the classified staff.
He is a student-centered leader who believes in the importance of meaningful relationships with faculty, staff, and students in order to achieve comprehensive excellence across the departments, which he leads.
Before joining Upper Arlington City School District, Chris graduated from Avon Lake High School in Avon Lake, Ohio. He received his BA in psychology from Denison University in 1998, where he also earned 4 varsity letters as a member of the basketball team and served as team captain his senior year. In 2001, Chris earned a Master’s Degree in Sport Management as well as a Master’s Degree in Educational Administration from The Ohio State University.
On a personal note, Crhis and his wife Megan, a 1994 Upper Arlington graduate, reside in Upper Arlington and have three children, Natalie (17), Charlotte (15) and Ryan (13).
Season 6, Episode 19
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our eighteenth episode in the Season features Erica Waayenberg, an interior designer, strategy-minded problem solver, and head of research & content for ThinkLab.
Erica embraces design thinking with a career that has encompassed interior design, sales, strategic program development, marketing management, and consulting within the design world. Erica’s enthusiasm for design and how we connect to our surroundings was fostered in her education in interior design from Michigan State University.
She is passionate about the creative process, authentic marketing, the built environment, and connecting people with inspired and thoughtful design. To her role at ThinkLab, Erica brings a well-rounded industry perspective paired with an eagerness to inform and inspire industry members of all types through research-based insights.
Outside of her office, Erica loves to travel, be outdoors, dive into messy creative play with her boys, and savor great conversation with friends and family over coffee or a French 75.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our seventeenth episode in the Season features Sandra Duncan, an international consultant, author of six books focused on the environmental design of early childhood places, designer of two furniture collections called Sense of Place and Sense of Place for Wee Ones, and adjunct faculty at Nova Southeastern University.
Sandra works to assure the miracle and magic of childhood through indoor and outdoor play spaces that are intentionally designed to connect young children to their early learning environments, communities, and neighborhoods.
Sandra has designed and taught university courses on built learning environments and has collaborated with architects, interior designers, and educators to create extraordinary places and possibilities for children and students of all ages.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our sixteenth episode in the Season features Tom Vander Ark, an advocate for innovations in learning.
As the CEO of Getting Smart, Tom advises schools, districts, networks, foundations and learning organizations on the path forward. He is the author of Getting Smart, Smart Cities That Work for Everyone, Smart Parents, Better Together, The Power of Place and Difference Making at the Heart of Learning.
Previously, he served as the first Executive Director of Education for the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Tom has also served as a public school Superintendent in Washington State and has extensive private sector experience.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our fifteenth episode in the Season features Kyle Schwartz, a teacher at Doull Elementary in Denver, Colorado.
Kyle Schwartz just finished her tenth year of teaching at Doull Elementary in Denver, Colorado. In her first year of teaching, Kyle asked her students a simple yet powerful question-- What do you wish your teacher knew? Her students' candid responses inspired the #IWishMyTeacherKnew movement and sparked a conversation about the realities students face and how schools can become more supportive, safe, and welcoming.
Her first book, I Wish My Teacher Knew: How One Question Can Change Everything for Our Kids focuses on realities that students face and how educators can respond to their students’ needs by building relationships. Her second book, I Wish For Change: Unleashing the Power of Kids to Make a Dif erence is a guide for educators, families, and mentors to help young people find a personal sense of power and use it to better their communities.
In addition to teaching, Kyle is a dedicated advocate for students. She has spoken internationally about supporting all students, differentiating instruction for students learning English, building strong classroom communities, and helping young people create change.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our fourteenth episode in the Season features Brandon McLaughlin, the principal architect for the Clark County School District in Las Vegas, Nevada.
In the shadow of the Las Vegas Strip, the Clark County School District is the 5th-largest school district in the U.S. at a staggering 305,000 students. Brandon came to the district on the heels of approval for a $3.7 billion dollar Capital Improvement Plan extension and oversees the architectural design for new and replacement schools along with modernization efforts.
A district often criticized for prototypical, "prison-like" facilities historically, he looks to slowly align an ever-changing educational delivery model with buildings that support and ease delivery of content that increaeses student outcomes and enhances student and staff daily experience.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our fourteenth episode in the Season features Brandon McLaughlin, the principal architect for the Clark County School District in Las Vegas, Nevada.
In the shadow of the Las Vegas Strip, the Clark County School District is the 5th-largest school district in the U.S. at a staggering 305,000 students. Brandon came to the district on the heels of approval for a $3.7 billion dollar Capital Improvement Plan extension and oversees the architectural design for new and replacement schools along with modernization efforts.
A district often criticized for prototypical, "prison-like" facilities historically, he looks to slowly align an ever-changing educational delivery model with buildings that support and ease delivery of content that increaeses student outcomes and enhances student and staff daily experience.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our thirteenth episode in the Season features Kerri Brady, the Vice President of Educational Practice for Huckabee.
Kerri focuses on educational planning, educational research, school safety + security, and change management. She helps clients shape the learning expereience by facilitating in-depth conversations and explorations on vision, curriculum, experience, and space.
Kerri also serves on the Board of Directors for the Texas School Safety Center as the architect member and plays an important leadership role in the LEx Collaborative, a partnership between Huckabee, ESC Region 12 and Baylor University that focuses on educational research and the built environment's impact on student success.
Most recently, Kerri led the charge to rewrite the School Facility Standards for the State of Texas and co-authored an international book about the role of Career and Technical Education in 21st century learning.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our twelth episode in the Season features Ellen Perconti, the Superintendent of the Goldendale School District 404.
Ellen is a learner, with a commitment to serve others in their learning journeys so that we can grow connections and seek wonder. Currently, she serves as Superintendent in Goldendale, WA and is the Board President of the Education Leaders' Organization. Ellen has a background in professional learning, curriculum, assessment, and leadership.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Our eleventh episode in the Season features Wes Watts, the 2022 Louisiana Superintendent of the Year for West Baton Rouge Parish Schools.
Wes just finished his 30th year in education. He spent 22 years on a high school campus as a teacher, coach, and principal. The last 8 years he has been the Superintendent in West Baton Rouge Parish, but has recently stepped down from his role within the district to take on other career goals.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
Our tenth episode in the Season features Christian Long, an unapologetic advocate for wonder and curiosity as the root of all learning worth doing and all learning environments worth designing.
He currently serves as the Chief Growth Officer for the THINK Learning Studio consultancy and PD center, a new initiative of THINK Global School, the world’s first and only all-traveling international high school.
Christian’s team created TLS to help every educator, school and learning network foster the mindset and conditions to help every student take the next step on their unique, real-world learning journey. By collaborating with school leaders and educators around the world, they design dynamic real-world learning models which seek to empower today's learners to make purposeful impact in the future. To do this, they’ve adapted the TGS’ renowned Changemakers® place-based, Project Based learning curriculum into a set of tools and methodologies that empower all types of educators to bring project-based learning to their students—regardless of location, age, economic status, or learning ability.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
Our ninth episode in the Season features Randy Fielding, an Architect and Founding Partner of Fielding International, an interdisciplinary architecture and education firm that designs schools where learners thrive.
Randy has authored more than 50 publications and received numerous design awards, including the top two International awards in school planning and design: Planner of the Year and the MacConnell Award from the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE). Randy’s work is grounded in research, which he has shared globally as the co-author of The Language of School Design: Design Patterns for 21st Century Learning.
He is also the Creative Director for SchoolPatterns.com, which Fielding International launched in 2021 to create a shared language and library that is accessible to all. More than 70 Design Patterns illustrate key ideas in school design, with problem and solution statements, an image gallery, and links to learn more. The power of these Patterns are brought to life in 15 recent articles at Getting Smart, including 6 Elements of Thriving Learners, Personal Space for Safety, Wellness and Autonomy, and How to Design a Learning Commons, all at gettingsmart.com/author/randy-fielding.
In this podcast, Randy will discuss the importance of aligning a Learning Ecosystem: the dynamic cross-section between a school’s vision (what it is aiming to achieve for its students and community), its educational program (how a school functions to achieve that vision), and its social and physical environment (culture and places where the program is delivered).
Rethinking the approach to visioning and design has never been more important. He will share how school communities around the globe are, more than ever, recognizing misalignments between their aspirational vision for thriving learners and their learning environments; and, how a new tool Fielding International developed has reshaped the visioning and design process to be more effective and efficient in creating vision-aligned learning environments.
Our podcast, Better Learning, is now partnered with the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE). The partnership comes with Kay-Twelve's mission alignment with A4LE to help lead innovation at the intersection of learning and place in schools around the world!
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
Our ninth episode in the Season features Randy Fielding, an Architect and Founding Partner of Fielding International, an interdisciplinary architecture and education firm that designs schools where learners thrive.
Randy has authored more than 50 publications and received numerous design awards, including the top two International awards in school planning and design: Planner of the Year and the MacConnell Award from the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE). Randy’s work is grounded in research, which he has shared globally as the co-author of The Language of School Design: Design Patterns for 21st Century Learning.
He is also the Creative Director for SchoolPatterns.com, which Fielding International launched in 2021 to create a shared language and library that is accessible to all. More than 70 Design Patterns illustrate key ideas in school design, with problem and solution statements, an image gallery, and links to learn more. The power of these Patterns are brought to life in 15 recent articles at Getting Smart, including 6 Elements of Thriving Learners, Personal Space for Safety, Wellness and Autonomy, and How to Design a Learning Commons, all at gettingsmart.com/author/randy-fielding.
In this podcast, Randy will discuss the importance of aligning a Learning Ecosystem: the dynamic cross-section between a school’s vision (what it is aiming to achieve for its students and community), its educational program (how a school functions to achieve that vision), and its social and physical environment (culture and places where the program is delivered).
Rethinking the approach to visioning and design has never been more important. He will share how school communities around the globe are, more than ever, recognizing misalignments between their aspirational vision for thriving learners and their learning environments; and, how a new tool Fielding International developed has reshaped the visioning and design process to be more effective and efficient in creating vision-aligned learning environments.
Our podcast, Better Learning, is now partnered with the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE). The partnership comes with Kay-Twelve's mission alignment with A4LE to help lead innovation at the intersection of learning and place in schools around the world!
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our eighth episode in the Season features Kelly Smith, the founder and CEO of Prenda (prenda.com), an education company that helps people run their own microschools.
Kelly Smith has been obsessed with learning and building things since childhood. After a master’s degree in nuclear fusion (MIT), Kelly had a career in engineering and marketing at various technology companies and sold a small software business in the clean energy space. He started volunteering with an afterschool code club at the local public library, helping kids learn computer programming, and he was so excited about the power of self-learning that he started a microschool around his kitchen table in January 2018. Kelly lives in Mesa, Arizona with his wife and four children.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our seventh episode in the Season features two guests - Brad Sever & Brian Schoch.
Brad Sever is an Assistant Principal at Carmel High School in Carmel, Indiana, which has about 5.,400 students. He has been an international educational consultant on project-based learning since 2010 and has worked with over 100 schools. He recently published a book with Solution Tree Publishing titled "Sustainable Project-Based Learning," which effectively integrates PBL, SEL, and PLCs.
Brian Schoch is a skilled educator, with over 20 years of experience as a classroom teacher, and 13 years of experience leading professional development workshops in Project-Based Learning with teachers across the country. He earned his bachelor's degree in Business from Miami University (Oxford, OH) and his master's degree in Education from The Ohio State University, while working at Ohio State's Center on Education and Training. Brian's work has been featured in
- Project-Based Teaching: How to Create Rigorous and Engaging Learning Experiences by Suzie Boss and John Larmer
- Setting the Standard for Project-Based Learning by Boss, Larmer, and John Mergendoller
- Sustainable Project-Based Learning by Brad Sever.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our sixth episode in the Season features Prakash Nair, a world-renowned architect, futurist and the Founding President & CEO of Education Design International.
This episode is a special one - starting this week, our podcast Better Learning is now partnered with the Association for Learning Environments or also known as A4LE (have you seen our new logo!?). The partnership comes with Kay-Twelve's mission alignment with A4LE to help lead innovation at the intersection of learning and place in schools around the world!
Over the past 22 years, Prakash has helped build EDI into a global leader for school architecture with innovative work in 54 countries on six continents. Prakash has won many international awards including the 2022 Outstanding Educational Leadership Award and the A4LE MacConnell Award, the highest honor worldwide for school design. He has done a TEDx talk and is the author of several books including Blueprint for Tomorrow published by Harvard Education Press.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
The Better Learning Podcast will partner with the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) to help facilitate more conversations with educational leaders and change-makers across the country to help support their mission of improving the places where children learn. The conversations that are held on the podcast are meant to bring educational leaders at all levels real-world issues and solutions that listeners can take with them to the district, school, and even community level.
The Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) was first established in 1921 as the National Council on Schoolhouse Construction (NCSC) then becoming Council of Education Facility Planners International (CEFPI) in 1971. It took its current name in 2015 and has since been leading innovation at the intersection of learning and place. With the Better Learning podcast seeking to highlight innovative programs and initiatives, A4LE aspires to connect the Better Learning audience with like minded leaders that are helping lead the change.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our fourth episode in the Season features Remco Bergsma, the President and CEO of MiEN Company. Remco started MiEN Company with an idea in mind - to design open learning and working spaces that mirror modern working environments so that students were better prepared for the real world. Intentional design in schools can build readiness for the work environment and amplifies the soft skills future employers are looking for. While teachers move away from traditional instruction, schools must also adapt and create active learning spaces that help educators make an impact.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Welcome to Season 6 of the Better Learning Podcast! Our third episode in the Season features Kirk Henwood, the new School Superintendent of the Walsh School District. Dr. Kirk Henwood is passionate about public school education and the opportunity it provides to all children. His professional mission is to fulfill the promise of public education in rural Colorado public education through creating effective schools, and effective school leadership in order to provide high quality learning opportunities for students. His experiences in working in small rural school districts have given him a broad set of skills to fulfill this mission, including valuing relationships, expertise in quality instructional practices, deep experience in human resources, and educational law, all of which he leverages in order to better meet the needs of students and their learning.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture. Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com.
Jolene Levin is the President and CEO of NorvaNivel located in Dallas, Texas.
Jolene is passionate about designing creative and innovative spaces that allow all students’ needs to be met for learning success. Since NorvaNivel was founded in Australia in 2010, she has personally partnered with hundreds of education leaders to help their schools navigate, from traditional teaching and classroom design, to create agile learning spaces that support the pedagogy of today and tomorrow. With an understanding of the direction of education, Jolene creates the vision of learning spaces of the future. She brings with her hundreds of successful case studies and a commitment to improving education in the United States with inclusive learning spaces. She is inspired by her children and transforming the world in which they learn.
Email: jolene@norvanivel.com
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Tim McClure is the Assistant Superintendent for Facilities of at Northwest Independent School District located in Justin, Texas.
Tim’s experience spans for more than twenty years. His background in architecture and construction, combined with his detailed experience providing long range planning and budgeting for school districts, allows him to serve in a leadership role with an unmatched capacity. Tim is a valuable leader throughout all aspects of the industry including visioning, project facilitation, professional presentations, team management, programming, schematic design, design development, graphic design, construction
drawings and contract administration.
Email: Tim.McClure@nisdtx.org
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Providing an innovative, relevant, and future-focused learning experience is important for the next generation of students. By moving away from the "factory model", you can be certain that your students will gain a sense of ownership, the opportunity to feel valued and heard, and to learn from real-world connections.
To learn more about the work Tom Woelper is doing, visit https://neiacademy.org/.
If you know a school leader that would benefit from a peer-to-peer confidential group, nominate them today at www.ed-leaders.org.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
Our second episode in Season 5 features Michelle Ball, an educator for more than forty years and the founder of Alturas Academy located in Idaho Falls. Alturas Academy has a unique model that has built a strong community for their students to learn in an environment that is safe and engaging. Take a listen to this episode to learn new successful methods of content delivery that every educator should know about!
If you know a school leader that would benefit from a peer-to-peer confidential group, nominate them today at www.ed-leaders.org.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
Thank you to Carmelo Piazza for having an open, honest conversation about being a school leader in today's environment.
To learn more about the work Carmelo is doing, visit http://carmelothesciencefellow.com/
If you know a school leader that would benefit from a peer-to-peer confidential group, nominate them today at www.ed-leaders.org.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
Thank you to Jenna Guldberg of The North Carolina Leadership Academy for having an open, honest conversation about being a school leader in today's environment.
If you know a school leader that would benefit from a peer-to-peer confidential group, nominate them today at www.ed-leaders.org.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
Keeping with the focus on school leadership this season, this episode explores the view from a school board member. What do the board members want? How involved are they? Do you view them as your boss? How much information do the need to know?
Thank you to Camille Knudson, Vice President of the Tooele County School District Board of Education for having an open, honest conversation.
If you know a school leader that would benefit from a peer-to-peer confidential group, nominate them today at www.ed-leaders.org.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
This is a discussion from a local podcast in Arizona with host Alicia Haygood, Kevin Stoller, and Scottsdale Unified School District Superintendent Dr. Scott Menzel. Topics include:
-Taking Over as Superintendent During COVID
-Leading Through Chaos
-Changing the Culture
-Building Community Support
-Addressing the Competition between Public Districts and Charter Schools
We also discuss the value of Superintendents having an outlet of peers to work through personal and professional issues. What is Education Leaders' Organization? ELO is aimed to reduce the turnover in leadership roles by focusing on personal development, as well as professional development.
If you know a School Superintendent that would benefit from a peer-to-peer confidential group, nominate them today at www.ed-leaders.org.
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
This is a recording of the webinar, What is Education Leaders' Organization?
ELO is aimed to reduce the turnover in leadership roles with schools and school districts by focusing on personal development, as well as professional development.
If you know a school leader that would benefit from a peer-to-peer confidential group, nominate them today at www.ed-leaders.org.
If you'd rather watch the recorded webinar, here is the link:
https://ed-leaders.org/webinar-recording
Kevin Stoller is the host of the Better Learning Podcast and Co-Founder of Kay-Twelve, a national leader for educational furniture.
Learn more about creating better learning environments at www.Kay-Twelve.com
Kevin Stoller is joined by Dr. Brenton White, Superintendent of A+ Charter Schools in Dallas, TX to discuss the personal side of leading through chaos. Dr. White's positive perspective and self-awareness is a great lesson for all leaders.
https://www.apluscharterschools.org/
We are proud to announce our affiliation with Education Leaders' Organization (ELO). If you know a Superintendent or Principal that would benefit from a peer-to-peer confidential group, nominate a leader today at www.ed-leaders.org.
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2020 has been a rough year for school leaders such as Superintendents & Principals. Season 4 of the Better Learning Podcast will focus exclusively on highlighting those leaders.
Also, we are proud to announce our affiliation with Education Leaders' Organization (ELO). If you know a school leader that would benefit from a peer-to-peer confidential group, nominate them today at www.ed-leaders.org.
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Kevin Stoller is joined by a panel of teachers and administrators around the country to discuss the challenges of transitioning to remote learning.
Panelists:
Jacob Chastain: https://teachmeteacherpodcast.com
Anne Chobot: #ReadANNE Anne Chobot Twitter
Batsheva Frankel: www.overthrowingeducation.com
Kate Oleson: Instagram @fourthgradeinroom210 Twitter @4thGradeRoom210
Jill Platt: www.ndpsaints.org
Kevin Stoller LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
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Kevin Stoller is joined by Pascal Finette, a leading futurist and technology expert to discuss the impact of COVID-19 on kids and adults.
https://beradicalgroup.com/
Kevin Stoller LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
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Kevin Stoller is joined by Richard Gerver, an award-winning speaker, bestselling author and world-renowned thinker, to discuss the emotional impact of COVID-19 on kids and adults.
https://www.richardgerver.com/
Kevin Stoller LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
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Kevin Stoller is joined by Julie Wilson, Co-Founder of the Academic Leadership Group to discuss how to lead through times of adversity.
www.academicleadershipgroup.com
Kevin Stoller LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
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Kevin Stoller is joined by Dr. Adam Drummond, a change-maker within education to discuss the details of mass change due to COVID-19.
Dr. Adam Drummond Twitter: https://twitter.com/adamddrummond
Kevin Stoller LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinstoller/
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Angela Watson is a National Board Certified Teacher and has authored books, created a website to share practical classroom ideas, and her Truth for Teachers podcast.
Website: thecornerstoneforteachers.com
Podcast: Angela Watson's Truth for Teachers Podcast
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Daniel Bauer is the creator of Better Learning Better Schools.
Website: www.betterleadersbetterschools.com
Podcast: The Better Leaders Better Schools Podcast with Daniel Bauer
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Stephanie Wortheyis Assistant Superintendent of Elementary Education at Greenbrier Public Schools.
Email: wortheys@greenbrierschools.org
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Jonathan Levi is a serial entrepreneur, author, and lifehacker born and raised in Silicon Valley. He's the author of the blockbuster Become a SuperLearner series, and the host of the award-winning Becoming SUperHuman podcast.
Website: superhumanacademy.com
Subscription program: superhumanacademy.com/squad
Book: superhumanacademy.com/book
Instagram: http://instagram.com/entreprenewer/
Personal Website: jle.vi/
Personal YouTube: jle.vi/youtube
Twitter: @entreprenewer
My Facebook Fan Page: @jonathanleviofficial
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Jeremy Anderson is a leading expert, author, and one of the premier motivational speakers in the educational arena. Jeremy has made it his life's work to help students and teachers become the best version of themselves.
Website: www.jeremyanderson.org
Facebook: @1JeremyAnderson
Twitter: @1JeremyAnderson
Instagram: @1jeremyanderson
YouTube: @jeremyanderson1000
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Aaron Buehring, Director of Education Environments at Lionakis joins the show. At Lionakis, they work with you to create environments that transform the communities in which we all live and work.
Email: Aaron.Buehring@lionakis.com
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Ted Dintersmith has an unusual vantage point on the future of our children and our nation. During the 2015-2016 school year, he travelled to all 50 states, visited 200 schools, and met thousands of people involved in education — students, teachers, administrators, parents, education policy makers, legislators, governors. He saw the very best of U.S. education, and drew daily inspiration from remarkably innovative teachers.
Website: teddintersmith.com
Innovation Playlist: teddintersmith.com/innovation-playlist/
Twitter: @dintersmith
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Brady Wald is principal at Liberty Arts Academy in Mesa, Arizona. He has served in the roles of teacher, teacher on special assignment, assistant principal, athletic director, and principal in elementary, middle school, and high schools in the East Valley of Arizona. Mr. Wald graduated with a Bachelors Degree in Social Studies and Secondary Education from Minnesota State University and a Masters degree in Educational Leadership from Northern Arizona University. In 2008, Mr. Wald was recognized by the Rodel Foundation of Arizona as an Aspiring Principal. Also, he has been a contributing author for "Successful Data Teams," and an author for the "White Paper Series" and an article for the Lead & Learn Magazine all through the Leadership and Learning Center.
Mr. Wald believes that all students can learn through an engaging and exciting classroom by developing a Love for Learning. Through whole child strategies, active engagement, and creating an educational model evolution (Finland Strategies - Family & Play), LAA can make education meaningful, project-based, and fun for all students to grow, achieve, and be successful in the classroom each and every day! Website Links
Website: www.libertyartsacademy.com
Facebook: @LibertyArtsAcademy
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Dr. Steven Miletto is the voice/interviewer for Teaching Learning Leading K12. He is in his 31st year of serving public school communities throughout the state of Georgia. He has been a history teacher, assistant principal, and high school principal. He currently is the Executive Director of the Heart of Georgia RESA (Regional Educational Service Agency). In 2009, he was recognized as the GASSP (Georgia Association of Secondary School Principals) Georgia Principal of the Year and in 2010 as one of three finalists for the NASSP (National Association of Secondary School Principals)/MetLife National Principal of the Year. Also, in 2009, he was recognized as a Hero for Social Justice by the Ben Marion Institute for Social Justice and in 2007 he received the Atlanta Braves/AT&T Educator of the Year Award. Website Links
Twitter: @SRMiletto
Podcast: Teaching Learning Leading K12
YouTube: Teaching Learning Leading K12
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Amber Harper is a wife, mom, and a proud former classroom teacher from Indiana. She taught first through fifth grades for 12 years. Since becoming a Google Certified Trainer and Innovator, she recently decided to serve a new type of student: burned-out, frustrated, left-behind educators who desire change. Her mission is to help to lead them to a path of fulfillment, happiness, and a feeling of efficiency and effectiveness in their classrooms or schools.
Amber is available for school workshops, speaking engagements, and as a teacher coach, I also lead small group programs and 1:1 coaching opportunities for educators looking for a true solution to their problem with burnout. Amber is also a Google Trainer and EdTech consultant.
Website Links
Website: www.burnedinteacher.com
Podcast: www.burnedinteacher.com/podcast/
Email: support@burnedinteacher.com
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Kendall Artusi founded Bright Futures Academy - grew it from 48 to 800 students from 2001-2016. During this time she uncovered and reported that the original board of directors participating in an IRS tax scheme ran $65 million dollars thru the school. Kendall ran the school with a staff of up to 100 employees which operated across 4 campuses in 3 municipalities with no management/support company.
In 2016, Kendall began working for Academica and now oversee 8 schools in PBC, writes charter applications for different programs and am currently opening a new school in South Carolina based off of the Bright Futures Acady Program. The school is called Clear Dot Charter School and will open in Columbia, SC in August 2019. The focus is Global Competency. The school’s sponsor is The Charter Institute at Erskine, and they have been amazing! We are working with MB Kahn Construction and American Charter Development to acquire the site and build the school.
Kendall is passionate about Charter School Education because she believes in choice; and that families should have an option to send their children to schools with programs that best meet their needs. She wants to help break the cycle of poverty and equally prepare all students to have an opportunity to realize their dreams.
Website Links:
www.academica.org
www.cleardotcharterschool.org
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Justin Zimmerman joined the Linsly family as Headmaster in 2014, bringing a wide range of experience in the independent school world. After attending boarding school at The Culver Academies in Indiana, he continued on to the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point, where he played DIII ice hockey and earned his BS in Natural Science and Biology. He later earned his Master’s Degree in Education from Indiana University.
Previously, Mr. Zimmerman worked as Dean of Studies and Student Life at Western Reserve Academy in Hudson, OH. He also taught AP Environmental Science and Biology at WRA and Culver and coached ice hockey and lacrosse.
Jay McTighe JayMcTighe.com Grant Wiggins "Understanding by Design" www.authenticeducation.org Ted Dintersmith - "What School Could Be", "Most Likely to Succeed" Grant Lichtman - Listen to our previous episode Produced by Shoop Media for Kay-Twelve.com
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Dr. Robert Dillon has served as an educational leader throughout the Saint Louis area over the last twenty years as a teacher, principal, and director of innovation. Dr. Dillon has a passion to change the educational landscape by building excellent engaging schools for all students. Dr. Dillon has had the opportunity to speak throughout the country at local, state, and national conferences as well as share his thoughts and ideas in a variety of publications. He is the author of four books on best practices in learning.
Bio: Dr. Robert Dillon
Websites: www.DrRobertDillon.com
Books: Click to view books
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Will Richardson has been working with school leaders from around the world to reimagine practice in the classroom and professional learning. He is an internationally acclaimed speaker and author on educational technology who is a former public school teacher, a parent of two teenagers, and a pioneer in the use of social media in education.
Bio: Will Richardson
Twitter @willrich45
Websites: ModernLearners.com Change.School
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Elizabeth Hofreuter the Head of School at Wheeling Country Day School and Julie Cartwright the Director of Advancement at Wheeling Country Day School talk about how WCDS empowers students to think, to create, and to communicate in a nurturing environment where learning and character are paramount.
End of Average by Todd Rose - Amazon Elizabeth Hofreuter's Email: lhofreuter@wcdsedu.com Julie Cartwright's Email: jcartwright@wcdsedu.com Website: Wheeling Country Day School Facebook: @Wheeling.Country.Day YouTube: Wheeling Country Day School - YouTube Twitter: @WCDStweets Instagram: @WheelingCountryDaySchool Cast Website: www.Cast.org
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John Myers is Director of Marketing and Training for Haskell. Haskell is dedicated to designing and manufacturing the highest quality furniture for business, education, government, and institutional enterprises.
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Stacy Fretheim is the Executive Director of the Wellington-Alexander Center. The Wellington-Alexander Center provides intensive intervention services for individuals with dyslexia or other language-based learning disabilities. The one-of-a-kind, all-inclusive neurodevelopmental screening, assessment and treatment center offers collaborative care for all ages.
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Mark Hubbard is president and co-owner of Paragon Furniture. Mark’s primary activity is promotion of Paragon products. Mark frequently interacts with dealers, architects, designers, owner representatives and end-users in order to better understand how the instructional tools of education are transforming learning environments and the furnishings within.
Website: Paragon Furniture
Maker Space: Maker Space Guide
Email: mhubbard@paragoninc.com
Twitter: @ParagonPeople
Facebook: @ParagonFurnitureInc
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Mike Sinclair currently serves as the principal of Brashier Middle College Charter High School in Simpsonville, SC. He has held this position since 2006 when he opened the school with the charter planning board. Brashier is located on a satellite campus of Greenville Technical College and serves 440 students in grades 9-12 though the middle College model providing dual enrollment courses. The student body annual performs within the top 10 high schools in South Carolina and 97%-100% graduate on time each year.
Mike graduated from the University of South Carolina in 1994 with a BA in Psychology and received a M.Ed. from Furman University in Educational Leadership in 2002. In 2012 he was selected as the SC Charter Principal of the Year, and in 2013, received the prestigious Milken Educator Award.
As a teacher, Mike was positioned to lead many professional development opportunities and was convinced that the quality of the teachers serving students was the key to success. He left the classroom in 2000 to serve as an Instructional Coach, and was assigned as the principal of a middle school in 2002. That middle school would change his perspective and passion for serving students. Why should a middle school principal be able to predict with fairly good accuracy which students would not graduate and which students would attend college? As a Title I principal from a small textile town without a lot of job opportunities, this did not rest well with him.
Today, Mike works closely with his staff to open opportunities for each of his students while working in state organizations and within state government pathways to challenge the traditional model of education and share his passion that every student is “Worth It”.
Website: Brashier Middle College Charter High School
Email: msinclair@bmcchs.org
Twitter: @BMCCHS
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Bob Lenz became Executive Director of the Buck Institute for Education (BIE) on June 1, 2015. Before taking the helm at BIE, he was the co-founder of Envision Education and served as its CEO and Chief of Innovation until 2015. Under Bob’s leadership, Envision Education put into practice a highly successful redesign model that has opened a path to college and college retention for underserved urban students at Envision’s three Bay Area arts and technology high schools.
Bob also launched Envision Learning Partners. Envision Learning Partners fulfills the original promise of charter schools to serve as demonstration sites for innovative educational practices to transform the broader public school system. Envision Learning Partners works with schools, districts and networks of schools across the country as they adopt the Envision Schools College and Career Ready Student Performance Assessment System.
He is recognized nationally as a leader in high school redesign, Project Based Learning, 21st century skills education, and performance assessment. The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation has recognized Bob as a Senior Deeper Learning Fellow. He is the author of Transforming Schools: Using Project-Based Learning, Performance Assessment and Common Core Standards, recently published by Jossey-Bass Wiley.
Previously, as a teacher Bob founded Academy X, an award-winning leadership and humanities program at Sir Francis Drake High School in San Anselmo, California. In 1999, Drake High was named one of thirteen New American High Schools by U.S. Secretary of Education Richard Riley. In 2000, the school was featured on the cover of U.S. News & World Report as an example of successful high school reform.
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Jamie Jo Morgan is a wife and a mother to two amazing children, both with special needs. Her older daughter has been through the Gifted and Talented program before, and her younger daughter has Down syndrome and Autism. Jamie Jo's life is filled with excitement, and she uses those experiences to shape herself as a teacher.
Teaching is her PASSION! She has been working in education and in a classroom since 2009. She loves to bring her strong Music and Theatre backgrounds into her classroom every day. She believes learning should be engaging, fun, and exciting. She thinks back to her favorite lessons from her childhood and when she learned most, and she tries to shape her lessons around the things that made those lessons powerful!
What can be said about my classroom? Well, the hands-on assignments and experiments, the strong integration of technology, and the project-based learning that takes place allow our Talented and Gifted students to explore a part of themselves without limits. The possibilities can truly become endless. Her lifetime love of learning, especially with technology, drives her desire to be the best kind of teacher she can be for her students!
Blog: LearningisLoud.com Website: JamieJoMorgan.com Twitter: @JamieJoMorgan Ruckus Chair Link: Ruckus Chair Produced by Shoop Media for Kay-Twelve.com
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Travis Brantingham, Head of School
Taking the reins in 2014, Travis Brantingham has committed himself to establishing and maintaining the highest standards of teaching and learning; developing student leadership, character, and community; and ensuring that Principia School students benefit from a relevant, hands-on, education that equips them to be effective global citizens. Travis holds a BA from Principia College and an MA from Maryville University.
Peter Dry, Dean of Innovation and Academics
Bringing a wealth of international experience. Peter Dry focuses on professional development, equipping Principia’s teaching team with the tools to incorporate student-led discovery and authentic learning with an emphasis on entrepreneurial thinking and intellectual and emotional resilience. Peter holds a BA from the University of Natal, South Africa, and an MA from the University of Southern Queensland, Australia.
Email: Travis Brantingham Travis.Brantingham@principia.edu
Peter Dry Peter.Dry@principia.edu
Website: www.principiaschool.org
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Sid Bailey is the Director of Leadership Development for the Arizona Charter Schools Association and is astutely aware that all effective schools have an effective leader at the helm. Through the Association’s partner organization, the Center for Student Achievement, Sid provides leadership training for Principals regardless of their level of experience. Leadership development is delivered in many forms including year-long Leadership Institutes, stand-alone trainings, and custom support tailored to the needs of individual leaders. Sid has experience at all levels, starting his career as a teacher, and then working for 14 years at two Valley schools, both recognized nationally for their academic success. Following his principal positions, Sid held district and state level leadership positions in athletics, student conduct transportation, assistant principal development, and leadership training director at the Arizona Department of Education. He is a member of the Northern Arizona University Athletic Hall of Fame (Track and Field) and in 2017 was inducted into the Arizona Interscholastic Athletic Administrators Association Hall of Fame.
Website: azcharters.org
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Mike Cobb isHead of School at All Saints Episcopal School in Tyler, Texas. Mike is a visionary, charismatic, results-oriented, school leader with a passion for helping students experience cognitive, social, and emotional growth while fostering a school environment that celebrates the joy of learning. Demonstrated success as a classroom teacher, administrator, campus-wide program developer, international speaker, and admissions/enrollment leader.
Email: mcobb@all-saints.org
Twitter: @fundmc01
Website: www.all-saints.org
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Abbey Ross has spent the majority of her professional career helping students with learning differences, and building unique programs to ensure their success after school. She is a skilled teacher and administrator who takes the time to get to know her students and their families, and works closely with them to devise a plan for success in the classroom.
Mrs. Ross graduated from University of Oregon with a Bachelor’s Degree in Communications and Political Science. Afterwards, she joined Teach for America, a nationally acclaimed and highly selective teaching program. Mrs. Ross taught 8th grade for two years at Dysart Elementary in El Mirage, Arizona where she developed a comprehensive academic support program for students with learning differences to help them prepare for AIMS testing.
Once her Teach for America commitment was complete, Mrs. Ross began her work at New Way as a junior high teacher. As she focused on the success of her students in school, Mrs. Ross also saw the need for a post-secondary support program for college students with learning differences. She spent two years leading the development and design of the Bridgeway College Success Program, which currently serves Valley students that attend local colleges.
Mrs. Ross became the Executive Director of New Way Academy in 2012. With a campus expansion complete and an increase in enrollment and teachers, Mrs. Ross continues to show her leadership and commitment to providing every opportunity imaginable for students with learning differences.
Mrs. Ross is involved with several non-profits in the Valley and serves on the boards of Arizona’s Parent Education Network (PEN) and Bridgeway College Success Program. She has been involved in Suns Charities 88 and a member of Valley Leadership, Class 37.
Websites mentioned:
New Way Academy
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Mike Griffith has worked in the field of school finance policy for the past 19 years with Education Commission of the States, the consulting firm of Augenblick & Myers and the Michigan State Senate. His research has focused on the condition of state budgets, the adequacy and equity of state finance formulas, and promising practices in funding programs for high-need students. Mike is an expert resource to national news media and has been quoted more than 300 times by such outlets as CNN, Education Week, NBC Nightly News, National Public Radio and The New York Times. Mike holds a bachelor’s degree from Michigan State University, a master’s degree in public administration from The Ohio State University and a master’s degree in education management from Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Websites mentioned:
Education Commission of the States
US Census Education Spending
National Center Education for Statistics (NCES)
National Education Association (NEA) - Rankings and Estimates of School Statistics
Education Week - Quality Counts
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Mike Sinclair currently serves as the principal of Brashier Middle College Charter High School in Simpsonville, SC. He has held this position since 2006 when he opened the school with the charter planning board. Brashier is located on a satellite campus of Greenville Technical College and serves 440 students in grades 9-12 though the middle College model providing dual enrollment courses. The student body annual performs within the top 10 high schools in South Carolina and 97%-100% graduate on time each year.
Mike graduated from the University of South Carolina in 1994 with a BA in Psychology and received a M.Ed. from Furman University in Educational Leadership in 2002. In 2012 he was selected as the SC Charter Principal of the Year, and in 2013, received the prestigious Milken Educator Award.
As a teacher, Mike was positioned to lead many professional development opportunities and was convinced that the quality of the teachers serving students was the key to success. He left the classroom in 2000 to serve as an Instructional Coach, and was assigned as the principal of a middle school in 2002. That middle school would change his perspective and passion for serving students. Why should a middle school principal be able to predict with fairly good accuracy which students would not graduate and which students would attend college? As a Title I principal from a small textile town without a lot of job opportunities, this did not rest well with him.
Today, Mike works closely with his staff to open opportunities for each of his students while working in state organizations and within state government pathways to challenge the traditional model of education and share his passion that every student is “Worth It”.
Website: Brashier Middle College Charter High School
Email: msinclair@bmcchs.org
Twitter: @BMCCHS
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Greg Schermbeck is the founder and principal consultant of SchermCo, an education advising and implementation firm. In October of 2015, he completed the Marshall Memorial Fellowship with the German Marshall Fund. He previously served as Nashville Prep’s (part of RePublic Schools) Founding Dean of Students, Science Department Chair and Director of Innovation. Greg began his career as a Teach For America Corps Member teaching High School Science at West Charlotte High School. He earned his B.A. from the College of Wooster and M.Ed. from Peabody College at Vanderbilt University.
Website: SchermCo.co
Twitter: @SchermCo
Facebook: SchermCo
Instagram: SchermCo
LinkedIn: Greg Schermbeck
Websites mentioned: OST Program Locator
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Francis Pina is a Boston native and a 9th and 10th grade mathematics teacher at Charlestown High school. He attended Boston Public Schools his entire K-12 education and earned a BS in Economics from Boston University. After working a few years after his undergrad, he attended Harvard Graduate School of Education to earn his Ed. M in Secondary Mathematics Curriculum and Instruction.
Francis has extensive experience working with students of diverse populations in the city of Boston and strives to implement a creative, engaging, and student-centered math curriculum for his students to achieve great success. Francis previously taught at Codman Academy Public Charter School in Dorchester, MA., was a Lead Teaching Fellow at Year Up Boston and a summer Math Teacher with the Steppingstone Foundation.
Francis is also a member of the Better Math Teaching Network, a community of teachers, researchers and community leaders who collaborate to analyze current research and share ideas to transform math instruction in high school and promote a more student-centered curriculum, and a Teach Plus Policy Fellow for the 2017 - 2018 school year. Currently, Francis is researching the ways and in which video games engage teens and how to transfer those principles to engage students in the high school classroom.
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Email: fppina@gmail.com
Twitter: @franklpina
Website:Coming soon
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John Kogan is CEO of Illumeo. John has been CFO at five companies and COO at two, a finance executive at Cardinal Health, and held
numerous finance and accounting roles at AlliedSignal and Cisco Systems. John's passion has been professional development for
himself and his teams since his first job, and he has pioneered and led organization-wide learning at a number of companies, large
and small. He has founded, invested in and been a board member or advisor of a number of companies and non-profits. John
volunteers his time at a variety of non-profit organizations. John has an MBA from the Fuqua School of Business at Duke University
and a B.A. in Economics from Connecticut College.
Website: www.illumeo.com
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Angela Wojtecki has been with Nordonia Hills City Schools in Macedonia, Ohio for a total of five years. She loves all things technology and library. She currently is the facilitator for the Know-How Nordonia staff professional development series in addition to being the 1:1 Integration Specialist and District Librarian. She was the 2015 President of the Ohio Educational Library Media Association and represented Ohio school librarians at the national level through the American Association of School Librarians. She is also a Google for Education Certified Trainer.
Angela helps co-teach the district’s Google Academy professional development and serves as Technology Advocate for Nordonia High School. Recently Angela began a podcast series titled Nordonia Innovators which highlights teachers, administrators, and students in the Nordonia Hills School District redefining innovation in various ways.
Websites mentioned: Future Ready Initiative tech.ed.gov
Twitter: @AngelaWojtecki
Website: Nordoniaschools.org
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Dr. Scott Grant is the President / CEO of Triple Threat Leadership, LLC, www.triplethreatleadership.com; Mentor of @TheOiler10, and an Assistant Professor of Business at The University of Findlay. He is a former high school teacher, coach, and athletic administrator who received his doctorate in leadership studies, with a focus on educational policy.
Email: sgrant@findlay.edu
Twitter: @MrGrant1161
Websites: www.triplethreatleadership.com, www.oiler10.com
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Jay Clouse is a Founder of Unreal Collective, Create Columbus Commissioner, Startup Weekend Facilitator & Organizer. Listen to his story and his unique perspective on fostering creativity through his 12 week program.
Website: www.JayClouse.com
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Grant Lichtman is an internationally-recognized thought leader on the transformation of K-12 education. He works with school teams to develop a comfort and capacity for change in a rapidly changing world. For almost 15 years, Grant was a trustee and senior administrator at one of the largest independent schools in the United States. Since 2012, Grant has visited more than 125 schools and districts, published three books, written numerous articles, and worked with thousands of school and community stakeholders to develop unique and powerful visions and strategies for transforming education away from the Industrial Age and towards future-focused models of deeper learning.
Remake Learning
Grant's Books: Moving the Rock: Seven Levers WE Can Press to Transform Education, #Edjourney: A Roadmap to the Future of Education, and The Falconer: Seven Levers WE Can Press to Transform Education
Website: www.GrantLichtman.com
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Randy Brunk is the Head of School at Cincinnati Hills Christian Academy located in Cincinnati, Ohio.
Website:Cincinnati Hills Christian Academy
TeacherInnovationFund.com
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Audrea Rease is the Executive Director of 3Star/StarC.
Website:3 Star Communities,Star-C.org
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Dr. Corey Seemiller has worked as a leadership educator for higher education, K-12, non-profits, military, and in the community for over 20 years. She currently serves as an Assistant Professor in the Department of Leadership Studies in Education and Organizations at Wright State University teaching undergraduate courses in organizational leadership and graduate courses in leadership development.
Website: www.coreyseemiller.com
Books: Generation Z Leads: A Guide for Developing the Leadership Capacity of Generation Z Students
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Nikki Navta graduated from St Lawrence University with a multi field major in Math and Fine Arts, and has been inventing products that combine left-and right-brain thinking ever since.
Website: www.zulama.com
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Jonathan Matta is the Vice President of Sales & Marketing - Education Market at KI. Jonathan is responsible for driving strategic sales and marketing initiatives for KI's education markets including K-12 and Higher Education. Jonathan champions a human-centered design mindset, and believes deeply in the role that the physical space plays within activating and inspiring change in the future of learning.
Website: www.ki.com
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