My guest is Mandy Smith. She's the lead pastor of the University Christian Church in Cincinnati, OH. We discuss the lectionary passages for Pentecost (B): 1 Samuel 3:1-10, 2 Corinthians 4:5-12 and Mark 2:23-3:6. Mandy is a regular contributor to CT Pastors and the author of Making a Mess and Meeting God (https://www.amazon.com/Making-Mess-Meeting-God-Experiments/dp/0784723923), and most recently The Vulnerable Pastor (https://www.amazon.com/Vulnerable-Pastor-Limitations-Empower-Ministry/dp/0830841237/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1523410420&sr=1-1&keywords=the+vulnerable+pastor&dpID=51s4Het-oLL&preST=_SY291_BO1,204,203,200_QL40_&dpSrc=srch). She is also the creator of The Collect, a citywide trash-to-art project. Mandy and her husband, Jamie, a New Testament professor at Cincinnati Christian University, live with their two kids in a little house where the teapot is always warm. Special Guest: Mandy Smith.