Today I’m eager to sit with John Freeman, my husband and partner for the last 21 years. We talk about some times of discernment and decision-making in our own marriage, how serving on staff at a church for over a decade prepared him for his work as a spiritual director and what’s on our minds as we prepare to send our twins off to college. If you find yourself standing on a threshold of change, listen in.

Links + Resources From This Episode: * Learn more about John's current work * Episode 167: Spiritual Direction for Beginners * Episode 178: How to Find a Spiritual Director * Episode 184: The Next Right Thing in Marriage with John Freeman * Order The Next Right Thing Guided Journal * Grab a copy of my book The Next Right Thing * Find me on Instagram @emilypfreeman * Download a transcript of this, and every, episode.