In this interview, Phil Brown and Mike Martin explore the transformative power of experiential education, the importance of reflection and follow-up, and the future role of technology like AI in connecting and developing people. * The importance of reflection and follow-up in experiential learning * Strategies for managing the unexpected in facilitation * The role of AI in enhancing human connection and learning * Stories of transformative moments in experiential education * The concept of 'your fault' and ownership in group dynamics

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