In Motion Podcast: Recent Episodes
Church on the Move
In Motion is the content platform of Church on the Move in Tulsa, Oklahoma where we explore who Jesus is and how His life changes ours.
Life is full of transitions, and every new beginning comes with something left behind. Whether it's marriage, parenthood, an empty nest, or a new season, change often brings both joy and grief. Instead of resisting those emotions, God invites us to acknowledge them, process them with Him, and trust that He's using every transition to shape us into the likeness of Christ.
In this episode, Jamie and Heather explore the joy, loss, and growth that come with life's transitions. Plus, they unpack the value of learning from those who have walked the road before us and how the Church is meant to help us navigate change together. Show notes: Looking for people to walk through life with? Join us at an upcoming Daughters or Brotherhood event!
- https://churchonthemove.com/daughters
- https://churchonthemove.com/brotherhood
Friendship was never meant to be easy. It was meant to be transformative. And often, the transformation doesn't come from finding better people—it comes from learning how to forgive the imperfect ones already in your life.
In this month's episode, we explored a topic most of us would rather avoid: forgiveness. Through one deeply personal story, we were reminded: forgiveness isn't optional—it's the doorway to the kind of relationships that actually last.
Show Notes:
In this episode, Jamie and Heather discuss chapter four of the book Made for People by Justin Whitmel Earley.
The Psalms give us an example of what honest, unfiltered prayer looks like. Join us for our current series: Summer in the Psalms! https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoikPSaa5DXdDjm4smLPtkNwFKqCQRpGM&si=BUkkdzSaCp0rr29C
Friendship is one of life's greatest gifts—but it also has the power to deeply hurt. In this episode, Jamie and Heather explore the simple yet impactful ways we can practice invitation, inclusion, and intentional kindness in our everyday lives.
They also dive into the influence of social media, the way we model relationships for our kids, and the quiet but powerful role we play in helping others feel seen and valued.
Show notes:
In this episode, they reference the book Made for People by Justin Whitmel Earley
Looking for community? Join us at one of our upcoming Daughters events: https://churchonthemove.com/daughters
Timestamps
0:00 Awkward Moments That Prove This Matters
2:40 Why Friendship Can Hurt So Much
5:00 Inner Circles vs. Being Inclusive
6:20 How We Exclude People Without Realizing It
8:15 Teaching Our Kids to See Others
13:40 The Pain of Being Left Out
16:45 Everyone Just Wants to Feel Seen
22:00 Why Invitation Reflects God's Heart
27:30 When You Don't Want to Include People
35:00 Social Media Is Making This Worse
44:30 Simple Ways to Be More Inclusive
55:00 This Week's Challenge: Include Someone
Who are you becoming? And who are you following?
For the first-ever live episode of Tell Me More, Pastors Whit George and Ethan Vanse explore the contrast between Abraham and Lot—and the question behind both lives: What's your strongest influence?
Abraham isn't perfect, but he keeps moving toward God. Lot settles for what looks good in the moment. Through their stories, Whit and Ethan unpack the tension between grace and consequences, why faith is about progress not perfection, and what it means to live with open hands in a temporary world.
Genesis 16 reminds us that God's promises don't fail—our patience often does. When the waiting feels too long, we're tempted to take control and force outcomes.
In this episode, Pastors Whit George, Blake Zimmerman, and Angela Ekstrum explore how even in human missteps, God is still at work, forming hearts, shaping character, and advancing His plan to redeem all mankind. He is not just fulfilling dreams; He is forming people.
Show notes:
Weekend Message Will You Wait on the Lord?
Listen to the full weekend message here: Will You Wait on the Lord?
Referenced from Last Week
Whit mentions last week's message and Tell Me More episode:
- God Desires Deep Relationship with His People https://youtu.be/rmGpV7ik1Sw?si=HmYHx8DGGilulL2M
- God With Us: Trust, Covenant, and Abraham's Long Walk of Faith | Tell Me More https://youtu.be/ikn31xDCT4Q?si=O9remz8f2a3SXVzg
Resources Mentioned * The Making of a Leader — Robert Clinton * The Great Divorce — C.S. Lewis
Next Steps
Are you looking for a next step?
COTMU applications are now open!
Learn More: https://churchonthemove.com/cotmu
What does real friendship actually require? In this episode of Life in Motion, we dive into covenant friendship—the kind built on honesty, vulnerability, commitment, and showing up when it matters most.
We talk about naming your friendships, making (and keeping) promises, ditching surface-level connection, and why accountability and safety go hand in hand. If you're craving deeper, more meaningful relationships—and aren't sure how to build them—this conversation is for you.
Show notes:
In this episode, Jamie and Heather refer to the book Made for People by Justin Whitmel Earley
They also recommend checking out Jennie Allen's work. Find her here: https://www.jennieallen.com/
In this episode, Pastors Whit and Gabe reflect on Genesis 15 and how it shapes the entire story of Scripture. Rather than portraying a distant God who sets requirements from afar, Genesis reveals a God who desires closeness—who patiently walks with His people.
What we see in these scriptures is faith not as a transaction or a moment, but as a lifelong walk of trust. More than a clean record or a distant destination, the story of Abraham is about with‑ness: God joyfully dwelling with His people and inviting them into a relationship that transforms everything.
Show Notes
Key Scripture References:
- Genesis 15
- John 3:16
- Hebrews 11:10
- 2 Corinthians 4:17–18
Book Mentioned:
- "With" by Skye Jethani
Listen to the Weekend Message!
- Church on the Move Tulsa: God Desires Deep Relationship with His People https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmGpV7ik1Sw
God doesn't hand you a blueprint—He invites you into a relationship. In this episode, pastors Whit George, Ethan Vanse, and Seth Swindall explore how the life of Abraham shows us that faith isn't about seeing the full vision, but about trusting the One who leads. In contrast to Babel's drive to build a name for ourselves, Abraham's journey is a slow surrender from "my will" to "thy will." It's not about escaping to heaven someday, but allowing God's Kingdom to be formed in you right now.
Show notes:
Listen to their weekend messages!
- Church on the Move Tulsa: What Kind of Life Are You Building? https://youtu.be/ZrgPTuJ41ow?si=ki97gjGgfo83I3m5
- Church on the Move Broken Arrow: Letting God Guide Your Steps https://youtu.be/GZlmhFAheh4?si=G4mW0W46XZ6RLg8h
- Church on the Move West: Are You Really Following God? https://youtu.be/9wCU-fCN6rM?si=gjRd8G8kWyCzXKIG
Friendship can feel complicated, but when it's done right, it can be one of the most life-giving parts of our lives. In this episode, Jamie and Heather unpack the reality that we're not meant to be deeply connected to everyone. From understanding your natural capacity for relationships to identifying the different "rings" of friendship, this conversation brings language to what many people feel but can't quite explain.
We talk about what real vulnerability looks like (and what it doesn't), how to deepen the right friendships, and how to recognize when a relationship has shifted—or needs to.
Show Notes:
Check out the book Made for People by Justin Whitmel Earley: https://www.amazon.com/Made-People-Drift-Loneliness-Friendship/dp/0310363004
Learn more about Dunbar's number: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191001-dunbars-number-why-we-can-only-maintain-150-relationships
00:00 – Intro
02:10 – Friendship Capacity & Circles
05:00 – Seasons of Friendship
08:15 – What Real Vulnerability Looks Like
12:00 – How to Build Deeper Friendships
15:30 – Friendship Levels & Expectations
16:00 – When Friendships End
21:30 – When a Friendship Becomes Unhealthy
24:30 – Hard Conversations vs. Creating Distance
30:00 – Covenant Friendship vs. Casual Friendship
36:30 – Expectations, Hurt, and Showing Up Well
41:45 – Closing Encouragement
In the final week of our Guided Prayer Podcast leading up to Easter, we reflect on the nearness of God and the invitation to come honestly into His presence. As this six-week journey comes to a close, we invite you to pause and pray: Where might the Good Shepherd be inviting you back into His presence?
Next week, instead of another podcast episode, we're inviting you to join us in person during Holy Week in the prayer rooms at any of our churches. Find the details: https://churchonthemove.com/holyweek#prayer
In week five of our Guided Prayer Podcast, we slow down in John 16 and let Jesus reshape the way we approach God. Jesus invites us to pray in His name—not as a phrase tacked onto the end of a prayer, but as an invitation into His relationship with the Father.
Take a few moments to reflect and pray: What would you say to God if you knew you were completely loved—and nothing could push you away?
In this episode, our Founding Pastor, Willie George, and Lead Pastor, Whit George, explore how the prayers in Ephesians teach us to pray for what we truly need: wisdom, power, and love. Wisdom comes first, because power without wisdom is dangerous. Then comes the power of God at work in us through the Holy Spirit, giving real inner strength. But that power must always be guided by love.
Show Notes:
Listen to the Message: The Spirit of Might at Work in You https://youtu.be/YZwzUpgYA_w?si=PnwuAxk1_6uVlcsz
In this week of our Guided Prayer Podcast, we pause to consider a quiet warning: our busy, full schedules can hide empty sources. Through reflection and prayer, we ask an honest question—are there places in our lives where we're living as if Jesus isn't necessary, relying on our own strength, planning, and process instead of depending on Him?
Take time to reflect: Where are you pretending you don't need Him? What would it look like to make room today to rely on Jesus—fully, simply, and again?
In week three of our Guided Prayer Podcast, we gather around Psalm 16 and Jesus' words in John 14. Through worship and reflection, we're reminded that in God's presence there is fullness of joy—and that even in moments of anxiety and uncertainty, we are not alone.
In a world shaped by fear of rejection and loss, Jesus declares that we are fully known, fully loved, and never forsaken.
Take time to reflect: Where is Jesus inviting you to trust Him more deeply? What would it look like to open your hands and believe that He is truly good—and truly with you?
You don't have to chase peace—you've already been given it.
In this episode, the lead pastors from our three churches Whit George, Ethan Vanse, and Seth Swindall walk through Philippians 4:1–9 and unpack what it really means to stand firm in a world that constantly pulls us into anxiety, conflict, and distraction. They talk about dwelling in the presence of God, the difference between forgiveness and restoration, bringing your real burdens to prayer, and choosing what you allow your mind to live in.
Show notes:
Check out their weekend messages
Church on the Move Tulsa | The Apostle Paul's Program for Peace: https://youtu.be/GbQ2pkvqVOA?si=qb7y-03spcs34lBF
Church on the Move Broken Arrow | How to Have Peace in a Broken World: https://youtu.be/ntuL934Mb3Y?si=HvpYMT5Jbnb3LW6z
Church on the Move West | Dealing with Your Past: https://youtu.be/UE14s7smQL4?si=hTVZ1EaysrxwVAyV
Jamie and Heather give an honest (and hilarious) update on their "body doubling" challenge—cleaning out a pantry and a closet together—and discover that what started as a productivity hack became something much deeper. In this episode, they talk about the power of presence, why some seasons make friendship easier than others, and how doing small, ordinary tasks side by side can lighten the weight of life. Plus, Jamie shares a big family update and the unexpected mix of joy, grief, and growth that comes with shifting family dynamics. If you're navigating change, craving deeper friendship, or just need motivation to tackle that one space in your house, this conversation will remind you: two really are better than one. Show notes: Doing Life With Your Adult Children by Jim Burns Ph.D https://www.amazon.com/Doing-Life-Your-Adult-Children/dp/0310353777 Learn more about Dunbar's number: https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191001-dunbars-number-why-we-can-only-maintain-150-relationships Get tickets to the next Daughters Dinner happening March 8: https://my.churchonthemove.com/registration/tulsadaughtersmarch2026
In Episode 2 of our Guided Prayer Podcast, we slow down with Psalm 25 and a time of worship, asking God to teach us His ways and lead us in His truth. Centered on John 13, this episode reflects on Jesus washing His disciples' feet—an intimate act of love on the night before His crucifixion.
As Easter approaches, we're invited to consider not only what it means to sit at Jesus' feet, but what it means to let Him come to ours. Are there places in your life you'd rather keep untouched? Through Scripture, song, and guided reflection, this episode creates space to surrender those hidden areas and allow Jesus to love you fully—because resurrection life begins with honest surrender.
In the weeks leading up to Easter, we're releasing prayer podcasts designed to help you slow down and encounter God. Each episode weaves together Scripture, worship, and guided prayer—creating space to reflect and respond.
This week, we read from Psalm 40 and John 12, reflecting on Mary's costly worship and the "fragrance" our lives carry. What aroma are you bringing into the spaces you enter? As we approach Easter, consider what Jesus may be inviting you to lay at His feet—and how time with Him shapes the way you live, love, and lead.
What if the breakthrough you're praying for begins with learning how to name what you feel? Your spiritual maturity and emotional maturity are inseparable.
In this episode, Whit George, Casey Shirley, and Angela Ekstrum explore why feelings are not obstacles to spiritual growth—but essential to it. They unpack the difference between emotions and feelings, and what it really means to stay relational under pressure.
Emotions will either move us away from relationship or deeper into it. The question is: will we let them lead us toward connection with God and others?
Show Notes:
Listen to the Weekend Message: How to Manage Your Feelings as a Christ Follower |
How to Manage Your Feelings as a Christ Follower
In this episode, they reference the 8 Feelings chart:
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In this episode, Whit recommends The Book of Psalms: A Translation with Commentary by Robert Alter
librarything.com/work/3233206
Real change doesn't happen through inspiration alone—it happens through formation.The bridge between wanting to change and actually becoming new is found in practices: small, repeatable rhythms that shape our desires and direction over time.
In this episode, Whit George, Blake Zimmerman, and Blaine Bartel explore how spiritual practices are counter-formation, slow and often resistant, but deeply powerful. As we commit to faithful practices—body, mind, and soul—we learn to trust the process, resist the path of least resistance, and allow Jesus to do His quiet, transforming work in us.
Show Notes:
Listen to the weekend message: Your Practice Is the Product of Your Life | https://youtu.be/rLMas97YrjE?si=GfdloWZrTsRmcTvN
Learn more about Blaine Bartel and his mission to help people encounter resurrection out of sexual brokenness:https://www.blainebartel.com/
In this episode Blake references the following books:
- The Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider
- Renovation of the Heart by Dallas Willard
Life doesn't stop changing just because we grow up. As traditions shift, kids become adults, and seasons evolve, we're invited to hold our expectations with open hands. In this episode, Jamie and Heather reflect on navigating changing family rhythms, letting go of "how it's always been," and discovering that even ordinary things—like cleaning a closet or showing up for a friend—can be deeply spiritual.
As we step into 2026, the invitation is simple: make room for new memories, lift one another's burdens, and don't try to do life alone.
What are you really hungry for? In John 6, Jesus calls Himself the Bread of Life—not just Savior, but the fulfillment of our deepest desires. In this episode, Whit George, Casey Shirley, and Lee Martin explore idolatry, misordered love, and why true life isn't found in optimizing ourselves, but in being satisfied by God. What if believing He could truly satisfy you changed everything?
Show notes:
Listen to Pastor Whit's message: What's Keeping You from Life to the Full?
YouTubeWhat's Keeping You from Life to the Full?
In the episode they talk about attachment theory. You can learn more on our Life in Motion episode Parenting From a Secure Place: Attachment, Repair, and Abiding in Jesus
YouTubeParenting From a Secure Place: Attachment, Repair, and Abiding in Jesus | Life in Motion
In this episode, Whit mentions Jesus the King by Timothy Keller
One of the most difficult tensions in conversations about healing, mental health, and spiritual growth is learning how to hold two things at the same time: compassion for what's real and responsibility for what's within our control.
In this episode, Whit sits down with Jamie Jobe and Valerie Isaacs, a licensed professional counselor supervisor, reflective consultant, and mental health trainer.
Jamie shares openly from her own journey with depression, Valerie brings language to the patterns that shape us long before we realize they're there, and Whit grounds the conversation in the truth of Scripture. Together, they offer a framework for how we talk about "breakthrough" without minimizing pain or avoiding accountability.
Show notes:
Check out Pastor Whit George's Message | Do You Want to Be Healed? https://youtu.be/Lh9_BKXpKqc Check out the Life in Motion episode with Valerie Isaacs: Parenting From a Secure Place: Attachment, Repair, and Abiding in Jesus https://churchonthemove.com/parentingfromasecureplace
Check out this Life in Motion on Counseling: What To Expect and When To Go
https://churchonthemove.com/lifeinmotion-counseling
In this episode, Whit mentions the following books:
- Spiritual Depression by Mark Lloyd Jones
- The Great Divorce by CS Lewis
If you'd like to connect with a pastor for prayer or resources, please fill out our connect form: https://my.churchonthemove.com/connect
Parenting isn't just about shaping our kids—it's about shaping us. Through boundaries, consistency, repair, and everyday inconveniences, God uses parenting to expose our hearts, grow our maturity, and form us into people our children can trust. It's messy, humbling, and lifelong—but with Jesus, even our mistakes become part of the work of grace. In this honest conversation, Jamie and Heather reflect on the parenting lessons they've learned (and are still learning).
Show Notes:
In this episode they mention the book
The 6 Needs of Every Child by Amy Elizabeth Olrick and Jeffrey Olrick, PH.D.
About Church on the Move:
We are a family of churches in northeast Oklahoma. Our mission is to introduce people to the real Jesus. A lot of people know about Jesus but have yet to experience the life-changing power of His grace and truth. Knowing Jesus has transformed our lives, so our goal for each of our worship services, from our kids' environments on up, is to help people know that same love.
We actively pursue Jesus in everything we do, and we believe He's given us a vision for a church that is deeply centered on Him and His word.
Find more information about service times, locations, and ministries by visiting: https://churchonthemove.com
In the face of loss, unanswered prayers, when something bad happens—We often look for a balancing of the scales of good and bad. We try to make sense of tragedy by making it purposeful, but that's not Christian hope. Of course, God works in the midst of difficult circumstances, but we don't need to settle a score in a life where you're not always going to see the score settled. So, what do we do instead? How do we follow God through despair, loss, and tragedy? How do we follow God in success, good times, and answered prayers?
In this episode, Church on the Move Pastors Whit George, Ethan Vanse, and Seth Swindall talk through the book of James. They wrap up a 15-week teaching series in James by emphasizing our need for perspective from Heaven, wholeness from God, and God's presence in our everyday life.
Spoilers: Life will swallow up death in the end
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SHOW NOTES:
The Plight of Man And the Power of God by David Martyn Lloyd-Jones
Spiritual Depression: Its Causes and Its Cure by David Martyn Lloyd-Jones
Weekend Messages:
What "Brothers & Sisters" Really Means in James - Pastor Seth Swindall
Highlights from James: Wholehearted & Humble Living - Pastor Ethan Vanse
Practicing James' Model for Prayer - Pastor Whit George
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Next Steps Looking to take a next step? We'd love to help you get connected. 👉 Next Move – Learn more about who we are and how to get involved. https://churchonthemove.com/nextmove 👉 Join a Group – Find community and grow in your faith together. https://churchonthemove.com/smallgroups 👉 Give – Fuel the mission and make an impact. https://churchonthemove.com/give 👉 Connect with a Pastor – Need prayer or resources? We're here. https://my.churchonthemove.com/connect - About Church on the Move: We are a family of churches in northeast Oklahoma. Our mission is to introduce people to the real Jesus. A lot of people know about Jesus but have yet to experience the life-changing power of His grace and truth. Knowing Jesus has transformed our lives, so our goal for each of our worship services, from our kids' environments on up, is to help people know that same love. We actively pursue Jesus in everything we do, and we believe He's given us a vision for a church that is deeply centered on Him and His word. Find more information about service times, locations, and ministries by visiting: https://churchonthemove.com/locations...
If you've ever lain awake wondering, "Am I messing my kids up?"—you're in good company.
So many of us are parenting without a clear template. This is where the language of attachment can be a gift—not as a label to shame you, but as a tool to understand how you were shaped, how you're parenting now, and how Jesus can bring healing and security into the story.
In this episode, Jamie and Heather sit down with Valerie Isaacs, a licensed professional counselor supervisor, reflective consultant, and mental health trainer.
It's honest, eye-opening, grace-filled, and full of hope for every stage of the parenting journey.
Show Notes: Check out Valerie's Podcast: The Whole Person Parenting Podcast (with Valerie Isaacs) Attachment Style Quiz
The Still Face Experiment: A powerful demonstration of how babies respond to connection and disconnection.
Understanding Attachment Styles
About Church on the Move:
We are a family of churches in northeast Oklahoma. Our mission is to introduce people to the real Jesus. A lot of people know about Jesus but have yet to experience the life-changing power of His grace and truth. Knowing Jesus has transformed our lives, so our goal for each of our worship services, from our kids' environments on up, is to help people know that same love. We actively pursue Jesus in everything we do, and we believe He's given us a vision for a church that is deeply centered on Him and His word. Find more information about service times, locations, and ministries by visiting: https://churchonthemove.com
Conflict has a way of exposing what's inside us. For many, our reactions are rooted in how we learned to handle tension growing up. But instead of running from discomfort, James invites us to "count it all joy"—to see every trial as an opportunity for formation.
In this episode, pastors Whit George and Casey Shirley explore what James chapter 5 teaches us about steadfast endurance and the true meaning of faith.
Show notes:
Listen to the message: How to Respond to Adversity
https://youtu.be/x2FyMcVIa3E?si=POFgOvLDsaSL_K9l
In this episode, Whit reads a prayer from the book A Guide to Prayer for All God's People by Ruebon P. Job and Norman Shawchuck https://www.amazon.com/Guide-Prayer-All-Gods-People/dp/083580710X
Faith isn't about managing behavior—it's about submitting your whole life to a sovereign God. The book of James confronts pride, judgment, and the illusion of control, reminding us that mature faith doesn't trust in outcomes but in who God is.
In this episode, Pastors Whit George and Blake Zimmerman unpack the end of James 4 and the beginning of James 5, exploring how our plans, words, and money reveal what our lives truly orbit around. In a culture driven by impulse and self-interest, James calls us to live differently—to see everything we have as His, to give freely, and to center our lives around the One who holds it all.
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Show Notes:
Listen to the messages:
Seeing Life Through God's Perspective
Keeping God at the Center of Your Life Vs Yourself
The Rocky Relationship Between You, The Lord, & The World
In this episode, they reference the book The Gospel Way Catechism by Trevin Wax and Thomas West
– Next Steps Looking to take a next step? We'd love to help you get connected. 👉 Next Move – Learn more about who we are and how to get involved. https://churchonthemove.com/nextmove 👉 Join a Group – Find community and grow in your faith together. https://churchonthemove.com/smallgroups 👉 Give – Fuel the mission and make an impact. https://churchonthemove.com/give 👉 Connect with a Pastor – Need prayer or resources? We're here. https://my.churchonthemove.com/connect – About Church on the Move We are a family of churches in northeast Oklahoma. Our mission is to introduce people to the real Jesus. A lot of people know about Jesus but have yet to experience the life-changing power of His grace and truth. Knowing Jesus has transformed our lives, so our goal for each of our worship services, from our kids' environments on up, is to help people know that same love. We actively pursue Jesus in everything we do and we believe He's given us a vision for a church that is deeply centered on Him and His word. Find more information about service times, locations, and ministries by visiting: https://churchonthemove.com/tulsa
Parenting digs deep—it exposes our fears, control issues, and insecurities. In this conversation, Jamie and Heather explore the two ditches parents often fall into: being too controlling or too hands-off. Both stem from fear—fear of losing control, fear of comparison, fear that our kids' choices reflect us.
Real growth happens through struggle, not avoidance. Parenting is one of God's greatest discipleship tools, shaping both us and our children.
Show Notes:
In this episode, they mention
The Anxious Generation by Jonathan Haidt
Tell Me More Podcast episode: Faith Without Works Isn't Faith at All
About Church on the Move:
We are a family of churches in northeast Oklahoma. Our mission is to introduce people to the real Jesus. A lot of people know about Jesus but have yet to experience the life-changing power of His grace and truth. Knowing Jesus has transformed our lives, so our goal for each of our worship services, from our kids' environments on up, is to help people know that same love. We actively pursue Jesus in everything we do, and we believe He's given us a vision for a church that is deeply centered on Him and His word. Find more information about service times, locations, and ministries by visiting: https://churchonthemove.com
James doesn’t just challenge what we say—it confronts why we say it. Our words expose what’s really ruling our hearts, revealing whether we’re led by the Spirit or by self.
In this episode, Pastors Whit George and Seth Swindall discuss James chapter 3 and the call to slow down, listen first, and let your words reflect the wisdom of the One who sees more than you do.
Show notes:
Listen to their weekend messages:
Talk Less, Sin Less
Who’s the Captain of Your Life?
Pastor Seth is the Senior Pastor of our church in West Tulsa. Check it out: Church On The Move West
About Church on the Move:
We are a family of churches in northeast Oklahoma. Our mission is to introduce people to the real Jesus. A lot of people know about Jesus but have yet to experience the life-changing power of His grace and truth. Knowing Jesus has transformed our lives, so our goal for each of our worship services, from our kids’ environments on up, is to help people know that same love.
We actively pursue Jesus in everything we do, and we believe He’s given us a vision for a church that is deeply centered on Him and His word. Find more information about service times, locations, and ministries by visiting: https://churchonthemove.com
Real faith is proven by action. Culture says it’s fine to be Christian—just don’t be too Christian. But the more we live like Jesus, the more “radical” we’ll look.
Faith alone brings us into God’s family, but following Him requires effort. In this episode, Whit George and Blake Zimmerman unpack what true obedience looks like and why legalism and lawlessness both miss the point.
Show notes:
Check out the weekend message: Obedience Over Elaborate Affection
In this episode, they recommend the book A Guide to Prayer for All God’s People
About Church on the Move: We are a family of churches in northeast Oklahoma. Our mission is to introduce people to the real Jesus. A lot of people know about Jesus but have yet to experience the life-changing power of His grace and truth. Knowing Jesus has transformed our lives, so our goal for each of our worship services, from our kids’ environments on up, is to help people know that same love. We actively pursue Jesus in everything we do, and we believe He’s given us a vision for a church that is deeply centered on Him and His word. Find more information about service times, locations, and ministries by visiting: https://churchonthemove.com
As parents, transitions never stop—whether it’s sending kids to college, navigating adult relationships, or rediscovering your own calling in new seasons. In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about letting go with grace, keeping peace in family relationships, and leaning into God as life unfolds in unexpected ways.
Parenting is always changing, but the goal remains the same: to prepare the way for lifelong friendship with our kids and allow God to shape us in every season.
Show notes:
In this episode, they recommend the book Doing Life with Your Adult Children
Partiality may feel like a small sin compared to the “big ones,” but James insists it is not. James calls us to live fully turned toward Christ, where our faith shapes how we see and treat people in everyday life. In today’s cultural moment, when influence and status dominate, Christ-followers are called to reject favoritism, live out the gospel with integrity, and honor people without compromise.
In this episode, Pastors Whit George and Ethan Vanse unpack James 2:1–13, revealing both the underlying issue and its practical application.
Show notes:
Check out their weekend messages:
No Favorites: Receiving All of God Vs Your Preferences of Him
Honor Over Favoritism
What does it mean to live out a genuine faith? Pastor Whit sits down with his former Wheaton College professor, Dr. Chris Vlachos—now teaching in Jerusalem—to wrestle with that very question.
Together, they explore the book of James as a wake-up call, reminding us that real faith always shows up in action. They unpack how James pushes us to obey Scripture, form a biblical imagination, and bring Christ’s love into the everyday moments that can make someone else’s day.
Show notes:
Check out the Weekend Message: Are You a Hearer & Doer of the Word? Putting Your Faith into Practice
Sin begins when we see God wrongly. In this episode, Pastors Whit and Gabe George walk through James 1:13–21, showing how maturity doesn’t come from behavior modification but from a heart that receives and trusts the Father who gives every good and perfect gift. When we see God clearly, we stop aiming at the wrong targets, let go of anger and judgment, and allow Him to reshape our desires.
Show notes:
Check out their weekend messages:
Whit’s Message: https://youtu.be/ULD-l7vOAVQ?si=LmFjmlrwLNNxinOa
Gabe's Message: https://youtu.be/SUOpxyaOiu8?si=mWhpAs8PyW5oQcGL
In this episode, Whit mentions a prayer attributed to Dr. Samuel Johnson:
Almighty and most merciful Father, whose clemency I now presume to employ. After a long life of carelessness and wickedness, have mercy upon me. I have committed many trespasses. I have neglected many duties. I have done what you have forbidden, and I have left undone what you have commanded. Forgive, merciful Lord, my sins, negligences, and ignorances, and enable me by the Holy Spirit to amend my life according to thy Holy Word.
As we wrap up a summer of candid conversations on intimacy, marriage, and sex, we’re looking back at what we’ve learned along the way. This season has challenged us to see intimacy not as something that “just happens,” but as something we intentionally pursue, protect, and nurture.
In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about the reality of distractions, shifting seasons of life, and the need to take ownership of our connection with our spouse. Marriage is always in motion—and so is intimacy.
Show notes:
If you missed an episode, find them here: https://churchonthemove.com/category/marriage-parenting/
Book Recommendations:
- Embodied by Gregg Allison
- The Great Sex Rescue by Sheila Wray Gregoire
- How and When to Tell Your Kids about Sex by Stan and Brenna Jones
- The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van Der Kolk, M.D.
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Life doesn’t stop handing out trials—but James invites us to see them differently. He begins his letter with four surprising words: “Count it all joy.” Not because suffering feels good, but because endurance through trials produces something lasting: a deeper, steadier faith. Joy, James says, isn’t tied to circumstances—it’s rooted in the confidence that God is at work in every situation, shaping us into who we were meant to be.
In this episode, Pastors Whit George and Ethan Vanse unpack James 1:2–12 and the true meaning of faith, doubt, and joy through endurance.
Show notes:
Check out Pastor Whit's Weekend Message: Suffering in Perspective
Check out Pastor Ethan's Weekend Message: You Lead Your Trials, Don't Let Your Trials Lead You
In this episode, they reference the article Full-fat Faith by James Marriott: The Times: Full-fat faith
Every day, over 400 million terabytes of information flood the internet. Knowledge isn’t scarce—wisdom is. Countless “ways to live” compete for attention, yet James points us to the simplicity of being settled in Christ. Jesus gives the truth about who we are, freeing us from the noise and grounding our identity in Him.
In this episode, Pastors Whit George and Angela Ekstrum explore identity in Christ vs. cultural identity, the authority of Scripture, and the power of community in forming us.
Show notes:
Listen to the message | An Invitation to Christian Living (for real): https://youtu.be/zJ3NP-9ICw0
In this episode, they reference the book Hearers & Doers by Kevin J. Vanhoozer
“God designed you—and He cares about your body.”
That simple truth forms the foundation of a powerful and wide-ranging conversation with Dr. Kerri Anthony, a board-certified OBGYN and menopause specialist.
Along the way, we dismantle myths, normalize conversations that have been taboo in the Church for too long, and encourage women to take ownership of their health and well-being. No matter what season of life you’re in—this episode is for you.
Disclaimer: Dr. Anthony is a licensed physician, but this episode is for educational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice.
Show notes:
You can find Dr. Kerri Anthony @yourmenopausemd on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and more:
https://linktr.ee/yourmenopausemd?utm_source=linktree_profile_share
In a culture overflowing with sexual messages, many of us are quietly carrying questions, confusion, or even shame around the topic of sex. It’s no secret this conversation still feels a little taboo, even among Christians. But Scripture isn’t silent on sex—and we shouldn’t be either.
Here’s the truth: shame keeps us from the good things God has for us.
In this episode, Heather and Jamie explore the roots of sexual shame and how we can move from hiding to healing—stepping into the light to be fully known and restored.
Show Notes:
Book Recommendations:
- Embodied by Gregg Allison
- The Great Sex Rescue by Sheila Wray Gregoire
- How and When to Tell Your Kids about Sex by Stan and Brenna Jones
- The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van Der Kolk M.D.
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Let’s be honest—Judges is one of those books in the Bible that makes you pause and say, “Wait… what?” The stories are full of deeply flawed people doing questionable things. But they also hold up a mirror to our own human condition. They reveal our drift, our compromise, our self-reliance. And they whisper a question that echoes throughout the Old Testament: Who will save us?
In this episode, Whit George and Angela Ekstrum what the book of Judges shows us about the state of our hearts and the faithfulness of God.
Show notes:
In this episode, they reference Judges for You by Timothy Keller
Check Out the Message | Counter Culture, The Reality of Sin, & God's Unrelenting Faithfulness:
https://youtu.be/1Nzx1EnO0mw?si=0Je9rFnsTOyyBEE8
Time Stamps:
- 0:00 – A Journey Worth Sharing
- 2:00 – Angela: From “Not a Pastor” to Bible Boss
- 5:00 – Finding Her Voice in Scripture
- 8:00 – Rethinking How We Read the Bible
- 14:00 – Judges: A Mirror of the Human Heart
- 18:00 – Wrestling with Divine Judgment
- 24:00 – Justice, Mercy, and God's Restraint
- 30:00 – Forming a Counter-Culture People
- 36:00 – Community is Not Optional
- 41:00 – Growth Through the Grind
- 46:00 – Generational Faith & Forgotten Stories
- 54:00 – God Allows Testing for Our Good
- 1:03:00 – Everyday Faithfulness in a Watching World
- 1:10:00 – Living as Light in the Darkness
- 1:17:00 – The God Who Keeps Showing Up
- 1:26:00 – Commitment, Complacency, and Coming Home
What do you do with a gift you never really learned how to use? We often treat sex like the expensive china we registered for but never use—beautiful in theory, awkward in practice. But sex isn’t just skin-deep.
In this episode, Heather and Jamie talked about how our minds—and marriages—need renewing. Jamie shares the invisible legacy of trauma passed down through her family, while Heather opens up about the pressure to “perform” intimacy without ever being taught what godly sexual intimacy actually looks like. Let’s renew our minds together!
Show Notes:
Book Recommendations:
- Embodied by Gregg Allison
- The Great Sex Rescue by Sheila Wray Gregoire
- How and When to Tell Your Kids about Sex by Stan and Brenna Jones
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Time Stamps:
- 0:00 – Let’s Talk About Sex (And Why It Matters)
- 0:56 – Real Talk: What the Survey Revealed
- 2:00 – “Why Do I Still Feel Broken?”
- 5:52 – Inherited Silence: Family, Shame, and What Wasn’t Said
- 9:03 – Digging Into God’s Heart for Sex
- 12:06 – When Culture Teaches More Than Church
- 13:16 – The Doctor Asked WHAT?!
- 14:30 – Marriage Isn’t Just a Roommate Agreement
- 16:04 – Preparing for Connection (All Day Long)
- 18:15 – Know Your Body, Know Your Rhythm
- 19:44 – Sex Is Sacred: 1 Corinthians 6, Unpacked
- 21:13 – Consent, Abuse, and the Marriage Bed
- 23:01 – Song of Solomon: The Original Love Poem
- 25:29 – Let’s Not Keep This Hidden
- 28:02 – From Shame to Freedom
- 30:02 – Where to Start When You’re Struggling
- 32:20 – A Radical Testimony of Surrender
- 34:38 – No Shame, Just an Invitation
We often frame salvation around a single emotional moment: Did you pray the prayer? But that question doesn’t show up in Scripture. American Christianity has often reduced the gospel to an afterlife insurance policy: believe in Jesus and go to heaven when you die. But if your concept of heaven doesn’t require Jesus to be there, you’ve misunderstood what Jesus came to do.
In this episode, Pastors Whit and Lee explore justification and sanctification and how God is not just after our destination; He’s after our transformation.
Show notes:
Check Out the Message: Finding the Great Purpose of Your Life Through Sanctification - https://youtu.be/Lr51g34nqYE
Timestamps:
- 0:12–2:18 – Challenging insights and views on sanctification
- 2:18–4:10 – Sanctification through Scripture: Egypt as metaphor
- 4:10–5:33 – Justification vs. sanctification: guilt vs. power of sin
- 5:33–8:01 – Can you be justified without evidence of sanctification?
- 8:01–10:22 – Emotionalism, altar calls, and shallow gospel messaging
- 10:22–14:26 – Embracing justification daily fuels the process of sanctification
- 14:26–17:20 – Fruit is evidence: Why sanctification isn’t optional
- 20:02–22:05 – If heaven doesn’t require Jesus, it’s not heaven
- 24:57–26:12 – False religion vs. real devotion to Christ
- 30:56–36:08 – Exodus: A picture of justification and sanctification
- 38:01–42:20 – Jesus = joyful life, not necessarily pleasurable
- 42:20–47:05 – Sanctification vs. optimization: becoming like Jesus vs. better you
- 50:15–52:36 – Self-awareness comes from looking at God, not within
- 52:36–55:01 – Sanctification begins in our weaknesses
- 1:00:46–1:02:06 – Ask the Holy Spirit for help in the process
- 1:06:01–1:09:16 – Orient your whole life toward Jesus
Justification is what God has done for you, said about you, and declared over you. Nothing needs to be added, it is complete. But for many, what Jesus has done sits in an invisible world that you feel you cannot see or access. So, how do you begin to apply this finished work in your lives?
Show Notes:
Whit's Message: The Doctrine of Justification by Grace & Faith
https://youtu.be/_audYAqqeWs
Ethan's Message: The Miracle of Justification
https://youtu.be/4ODvAz54MsE
Great Doctrines of the Bible - Martyn Lloyd-Jones
Dynamics of Spiritual Life: An Evangelical Theology of Renewal - Richard F. Lovelace
Room for Good Things to Run Wild: How Ordinary People Become Every Day Saints - Josh Nadeau
The Great Divorce - C.S. Lewis
Renewal isn’t just fresh vision or passion—it’s also a painful shedding of sin, pride, and your false self. When life hits—when the diagnosis comes, the relationship ends, the silence of God feels deafening—your theology will show up. Whether you realize it or not, the beliefs you’ve built in the quiet seasons will become the framework you lean on in the storms.
In this episode, pastors Whit George and Blake Zimmerman explore shame, guilt, and performance, the beliefs that make us Christians, and personal experiences of renewal through suffering.
Show Notes:
Spiritual Awareness: God's Holiness & The Depth of Your Sin
https://youtu.be/r4ObZy5SKf4
Time Stamps: 00:05:02 — Doctrinal conversations to have when dating
00:09:00 — Christian Orthodoxy = The Creeds
00:10:45 — Die For, Divide For, Debate For, Decide For
00:15:00 — "A Divine Shoulder Tap"
00:18:40 — Navigating the Loss of a Child
00:26:15 — Renewal: An Acceleration of the Normal Work of God
00:28:00 — Doctrine of Revelation: God Always Goes First
00:29:55 — Awareness of Sin
00:39:00 — Levels of Sin
00:41:45 — What it Means to Be Holy
00:47:00 — Everything Begins with Doxology
00:51:00 — Navigating Guilt & Shame
Renewal isn’t about becoming a "better" version of ourselves; it’s about becoming who God intended us to be — and that process always begins before revival ever reaches the world around us.
In this episode, Whit and Casey explore the often-overlooked power of writing as a way to process with God — and how it creates space for the Holy Spirit to reveal what’s hidden beneath the surface. They dive into what renewal really means, why it’s more than just a one-time event, and how personal transformation is tied to surrender, honesty, and preaching the gospel to ourselves daily.
Show Notes:
Check Out the Message: Transformation in You: The Spirit-Led Process of Renewal - https://youtu.be/BVBI3wYswUY
What shaped your understanding of sex growing up? Was it a quiet conversation with a parent, an awkward health class, a warning laced with shame? For many of us—especially those raised in Christian homes—our foundational beliefs about sex were vague, fear-based, or simply unspoken. We may have heard “don’t do it until you’re married,” but little else. And the unspoken message? Sex is bad… until one day, magically, it’s good.
We believe it’s time to talk. This summer, we’re inviting experts, sharing real stories, surfacing hard questions, and pointing back to God’s truth. Because God cares deeply about sex. He designed it. And He wants something better for all of us.
Let’s break the silence—together.
Content Warning: This episode is best suited for those ages 16 and up.
Show notes:
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00:00:00 - Introduction to Summer of Sex
00:00:20 - Mature Content Warning
00:00:33 - Foundations of Sexual Awareness
00:01:32 - First Experiences with Sex Education
00:03:37 - Shame and Normalization
00:06:10 - Impact of Family Dynamics
00:09:00 - Sexual Trauma and Its Effects
00:12:50 - Navigating Sexual Relationships
00:15:04 - Body Image and Modesty
00:18:04 - Biblical Perspectives on Sex
00:20:03 - Addressing Sexual Dysfunction
00:23:55 - Commitment to Ongoing Conversations
00:25:29 - Encouragement to Ask Questions
00:28:41 - Practical Steps for Intimacy
00:30:08 - Conclusion and Next Steps
Welcome to the Good Friday guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: churchonthemove.com/goodfriday
Brothers Whit and Gabe George grew up in church, but their journeys to truly following Jesus took different paths—both marked by pride, just in different forms. Both had to face the unsettling reality that pride, whether loud or quiet, keeps us from God. Like Peter, they had to be confronted with what was really inside of them—not to be condemned, but to be changed. Real transformation began when they stopped pointing outward and dared to ask, “Lord, is it me?” Only then did they begin to understand that faith isn’t built on perfection—it’s built on dependency.
In this episode, Whit and Gabe share stories from their childhood, explore Peter's actions in Mark 14, and reflect on the painful and beautiful journey of discovering who you really are in light of Christ.
Show Notes:
Listen to the Message: What Storms Reveal About Your Foundation -
https://youtu.be/1LapLZlhMys
Welcome to week fifteen of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: churchonthemove.com/sufferingsubmission
Welcome to week fourteen of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: churchonthemove.com/costlyworship
Jesus didn't give us Mark 13 so we can overlay modern events on it like some apocalyptic decoder ring. He’s being pastoral. He talks about some tough stuff—wars, betrayal, suffering, false teachers, and the end of days. But the heart of it is this: “How are you going to respond when this happens?”
In this episode, Pastors Whit George and Ethan Vanse explore Mark 13 and living with eternity in mind.
Show Notes:
Check out the message: Jesus Is Coming Back, Stay Awake! - https://youtu.be/wT-iS6qRtWE
0:00 – 7:37 Intro, Welcome Ethan Vanse
7:38 – 16:22 Jesus as pastoral vs. prophetic
16:23 – 25:09 Keeping trials in perspective
25:10 – 34:05 How Christians live in light of the end
34:06 – 49:03 False saviors and idols: reputation, money, comfort, control
49:04 – 1:03:00 Discipline and delayed gratification.
1:03:01 – 1:08:50 Training now for eternal reward and future calling
1:08:51 – 1:21:04 Jesus’ return as motivation for faithfulness now
1:21:05 – 1:29:00 Wrestling with suffering
1:29:01 – 1:30:17 Final reflections: Jesus is coming back.
Welcome to week thirteen of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: churchonthemove.com/bealert
Friendship is one of the greatest gifts God gives us—but it doesn’t have to be painful. When done right, it’s a place of celebration, not competition. Encouragement, not comparison. A safe space to be real and be known.
In this episode, Heather and Jamie discuss handling conflict and confrontation, how to stay friends when your seasons don’t align, and finding security in your identity.
Show Notes:
In this episode, they reference
Find Your People by Jennie Allen
Mel Robbins podcast: Why Making Friends as An Adult Feels Impossible & What to Do About It - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f26GCEUCNXk
There’s something striking about how Jesus moves through the gospels, especially in Mark 11 & 12. He doesn’t flinch or get thrown off by manipulation—He’s not playing their game. Every test from the religious leaders only exposes their hearts.
In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about the fruit our lives produce, letting go of the performance, and returning again and again to the quiet voice that calls us to relationship over routine.
Show Notes:
Check out the message: Devotion, Religious Performance, & Fruitfulness in God - https://youtu.be/aCogSqwquYQ
Welcome to week twelve of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: churchonthemove.com/lovegod
Welcome to week eleven of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: churchonthemove.com/thetruevine
Faith is not passive—it’s an active trust in the character and promises of God. It enables us to endure when things don’t make sense, to trust in the waiting, and to walk through difficulty knowing that God is forging something deeper in us.
In this episode, Pastor Willie George and Pastor Whit George explore where faith originates from, how God speaks, and how respond in faith.
Show Notes:
Check out the Message: Faith That Comes to Pass - https://youtu.be/Lgo4X1NhBYI
For reading the Bible in context, they recommend:
- The Companion Bible
- Logos: https://www.logos.com/
00:00:00 - Introduction and Special Guest
00:00:43 - Sermon Reflections
00:01:54 - The Challenge of Freshness in Preaching
00:03:39 - The Discipline of Preaching
00:05:22 - The Role of Prayer in Preparation
00:06:44 - Spontaneous Revelation in Teaching
00:08:04 - Teaching Through Mark
00:09:07 - New Insights from Mark 11
00:10:22 - Understanding Jesus' Intentions
00:11:40 - The Stages of Jesus' Ministry
00:12:14 - The Nature of Faith
00:14:02 - The Concept of 'Come to Pass' Faith
00:15:12 - Faith as a Gift from God
00:19:18 - The Hall of Fame of Faith
00:22:14 - The Role of Conviction in Endurance
00:25:15 - The Process of Deepening Faith
00:30:15 - Living by Faith, Not Feelings
00:33:15 - Stability in Leadership
00:40:05 - The Importance of Deep Knowledge
00:45:15 - Hearing and Doing the Word
Welcome to week ten of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: churchonthemove.com/whathasyourheart
It’s easy to run on autopilot, especially when life is good. We fill our schedules, push through our routines, and rely on what’s familiar. But how many of us are truly slowing down to hear what the Lord is saying?
In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about hearing from God, condemnation vs. conviction, and what God is doing in the life of our church.
Show Notes:
Listen to the Message: Learning Dependence on the Spirit of God - https://youtu.be/JRK1MM-IRNM
In this episode, Casey mentions The Making of a Leader by Dr. J. Robert Clinton
Welcome to week nine of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: https://churchonthemove.com/helpmyunbelief
There comes a point in life when you realize your parents aren’t perfect. And then, as you get farther down the road, you realize they were far from perfect. The reality is, we don’t leave our family of origin behind when we grow up. We carry it with us. The patterns, the coping mechanisms, the ways we learned (or didn’t learn) to express love, handle conflict, and process emotions—all of it follows us into adulthood, into friendships, into marriage, into parenting.
So, how do we break cycles of dysfunction for generations to come? Check out the episode!
Mark 8 paints a picture of disciples whose spiritual eyes remain closed. Despite witnessing miracles, they are unable to grasp the deeper significance of what Jesus is doing. Their inability to see past the surface of a physical miracle points to a broader truth: while many miracles restore sight to the physically blind, only Jesus can open the spiritual eyes that allow us to recognize His true identity.
In this episode, Whit and Casey examine the way we see—and sometimes fail to see—the work of God in our lives.
Show Notes:
Listen to the message: The Truth About Jesus - https://youtu.be/OtvCCGfLb3A?si=WhrKu0czwvx20ZoQ
Welcome to week eight of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: https://churchonthemove.com/jesusisthemessiah
We often attempt to shrink God down to a principle or formula—something that promises predictable outcomes and gives us a sense of control. But true faith isn’t about control—it’s about trust in the unknown. Genuine obedience isn’t driven by obligation but by love. When we separate obedience from love, we risk becoming like the older brother in the parable of the prodigal son—outwardly righteous yet inwardly distant from the Father’s heart.
In this episode, Whit and Casey explore Matthew 7, the dangers of legalism and antinomianism, and how to embrace the mystery of our faith.
Show Notes:
Check out the Message: Hypocrisy, Legalism, and the Lesson of Internal Devotion -
https://youtu.be/hbFpa2BSxYs?si=YpYW-faPgvXUdKjT
Welcome to week seven of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: https://churchonthemove.com/whatdefiles
One of the most striking patterns in Scripture is how Jesus consistently puts His disciples in overwhelming situations—not to discourage them, but to shape them. From the beginning of creation, God has given humans jobs too big to handle on their own. The call to fill and subdue the earth, to shepherd nations, to be His image-bearers—it’s all impossible apart from Him. And yet, in His wisdom, He places us in these roles before we feel fully ready, training us as we go.
In this episode, Whit, Casey, and Blake explore Mark chapter six, on-the-job training in ministry, and what it looks like to truly depend on Jesus in every season and situation.
Show Notes:
Listen to the message - How to See the Situation Like Jesus: https://youtu.be/4X_a35nOAxw?si=huOyJlQ9GvpJl9D7
In this episode, Blake mentions the book The Art of Pastoring by David Hansen
Welcome to week six of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: https://churchonthemove.com/thesentones
We live in an age of disenchantment, where the material world is often seen as all there is. Yet deep down, we sense there is more to reality than what we can perceive with our senses.
Scripture affirms this reality, showing that humanity exists between two kingdoms—the Kingdom of God and the kingdom of darkness.
In this episode, Whit and Casey talk Mark 5, the unseen realm, and the purpose of the church.
Show Notes:
Listen to the message: Dealing with the Reality of Sin & Finding Victory in Jesus
Book Recommendations:
- Remaking the World by Andrew Wilson
- The Unseen Realm by Michael Heiser
- Deliverance by Jon Thompson
- Breakthrough by Marcus Warner
- Spiritual Warfare by Karl Rahner
- Defeating Dark Angels by Charles Kraft
- I Give You Authority by Charles Kraft
Welcome to week five of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: https://churchonthemove.com/thepowerofjesus
As the new year begins, we often hear "new year, new you," but maybe it’s not about becoming someone new. Maybe it’s about becoming the best version of the person God already created us to be—authentic, intentional, and grounded in His design.
This year, Heather and Jamie are wrestling with questions that feel both deeply personal and universally human: Who am I, really? and How can I keep growing in every season?
Join us for the journey!
Show Notes:
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Welcome to week four of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. Today's Scripture is Mark 4:1-9 and 13-20. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: https://churchonthemove.com/parableofthesower
Welcome to week three of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. Today's Scripture is Mark 3:1-6 . If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: https://churchonthemove.com/fromrest
The question Mark’s gospel invites us to wrestle with is profound: Who is Jesus to you? In Mark 2, Jesus repeatedly places Himself in positions of conflict. He challenges the crowds, confounds the religious leaders, and confronts individuals, forcing them to confront this question and inviting them to trust in faith.
In this episode, Whit Casey look at Mark chapter 2 and what it looks like to truly pursue Jesus.
Show notes:
Check out the message : Becoming a Follower Vs Fan of Jesus - https://youtu.be/C1gxTwRm9WE?si=NlYRmTh7CZo6BHTi
In this episode, Whit mentions Jesus’ teachings on marriage & divorce. Find content on this subject here: https://churchonthemove.com/marriage
Welcome to week two of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. Today's Scripture is Mark 2:1-12. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: https://churchonthemove.com/ourdeepestneed
Mark’s Gospel starts not in a city or a temple but in the wilderness. Why? The wilderness holds deep symbolic significance. John the Baptist steps onto the stage of redemptive history in this barren, solitary place. It’s here, in the midst of the dry and desolate, that God begins His work of renewal.
In our busy lives, we rarely make space for reflection. What could it look like to step back from comforts or distractions to prepare the way for the Lord? In this episode, Whit and Casey dive deep into the first 8 verses of Mark.
Show notes:
Listen to the Message: 3 Ways to Prepare the Way of the Lord in Your Life in 2025 https://youtu.be/6DJU76bTv7s
Check out our series on Mark:
https://churchonthemove.com/gospelofmark
In this episode Whit mentions the book The Great Divorce by CS Lewis
Welcome to week one of guided prayer through the gospel of Mark. For the next 10 minutes or so, we are going to turn our attention to God in prayer. He desires to meet with us today, to talk to us, to share His heart with us and for us to share our hearts with Him. Today's Scripture is Mark 1:1-11. If you would like to read along as you listen, you can find this episode's transcript here: https://churchonthemove.com/day-1-a-guided-prayer-for-repentance
The holidays bring a mix of joy and stress as families gather with differing opinions, parenting styles, political beliefs, and more. Learning to be a non-anxious presence can transform these interactions, helping us navigate emotions and conflicts and show up fully, be present for others, and maintain our peace amidst the chaos.
In this episode, Heather shares about the powerful lessons she has learned as she trains to be a hospital chaplain, including practical tips to navigate the holidays this year!
When we think about God’s work in the world, how often do we limit Him to what we can see or understand? The truth is, the Holy Spirit is always at work—in us, around us, and through us—in ways that far surpass our imagination. But we often miss it, either because we’ve confined Him to our expectations or because we’ve become too self-reliant to notice His movement.
In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about the work of the Holy Spirit, the mystery of faith, and what to do when you feel distant from God.
Show notes:
Check Out the Message: Pentecostal Power in an Age of Self Help | https://youtu.be/_gZ4TaC-fa4
Some of us avoid conflict like the plague, while others charge into it head-on. Regardless of how you feel about conflict one thing is for sure: it’s inevitable. In a world that values quick fixes and easy exits, how do we handle it well? The hard work of staying in relationship—even when it’s messy—is where real beauty lies.
In this episode, Jamie and Heather talk about navigating conflict in a way that honors God and promotes growth not only for themselves but for their kids.
Show notes:
In this episode, Jamie references the book Find Your People by Jennie Allen
Pete Scazzero’s Ladder of Integrity: https://www.emotionallyhealthy.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/EHS+SKILLS+SESSION+6.pdf
If we only stay in our Christian homes, Christian churches, and Christian coffee shops, how are we being a light in the world? John 3 invites us to think deeply about what it means to bring the Kingdom of God into different spaces and places. To live on mission is to see yourself not just as saved, but as sent—sent to wherever you are, knowing that your very presence carries a message. In this episode, Whit and Casey explore what it means to live with a missional mindset, love others without disdain or judgment, and proclaim the message of the gospel. Show notes: Check out the message : Missional Mindset in an Age of Comfort & Convenience | https://youtu.be/Q0-w6BGZuEc?si=CdqthbyL1FJAK4BF
In an age where connections seem endless yet leave us longing for more, the Church stands as a uniquely transformative community. Christ calls each of us to serve, to minister, and to participate. There’s no room for spectators in the family of God; we’re all in the game.
In this episode, Whit and Casey discuss bearing each other’s burdens, pursuing unity. and what true, authentic community looks like.
Show notes:
Check out the message: Authentic Community in an Age of Counterfeit Connection | https://youtu.be/y2FzbLpoCKg?si=ICi2xqPnhN2M-kfq
In a world of selfish ambition, the church is called to something radically different—a life shaped by gospel culture. While gospel doctrine provides the essential truths we stand on, gospel culture is how we live in response to those truths, embodying them in our everyday actions and relationships. In this episode, Whit and Casey dive into how gospel doctrine and culture go hand in hand and discuss our role in carrying this culture wherever we go. Show notes: Check Out the Message | Gospel Culture in an Age of Selfish Ambition: https://youtu.be/1sR-w2Cc3JE In this episode, Whit mentions the book Renovation of the Heart by Dallas Willard
The Gospel is good news, not good advice. It doesn’t just call us to be better; it invites us into a whole new life in Christ. In an age that says we must define ourselves, gospel doctrine tells us that we’re already defined in the most profound way: loved, redeemed, and called by Jesus. This is the truth that binds His Church together.
In this Episode, Whit and Casey explore the history of our individualistic culture and the foundational beliefs that define the Church.
Show notes:
Check out the message: Gospel Doctrine in an Age of Moral Relativism | https://youtu.be/R4xwMaBTxNE?si=4Bpb405nL-E4I456
In this episode Whit mentions the book Strange New World by Carl Trueman
Grief often comes in waves, bringing unpredictable emotions. Jamie recently lost her dad and is struggling with not grieving "like a normal person." But there’s no "normal" way to grieve—every loss and relationship is unique.
Grief isn't a solo journey. In this episode, Jamie and Heather discuss their experiences of losing a parent, the importance of showing up for others, and allowing them to show up for you.
Let’s be honest—sometimes, marriage can feel like a battleground. We know communication is key, yet, we avoid talking about what's really going on. Lance and Brandy Salazar have lived through this and come out stronger. Their story and practical wisdom offer real hope for couples struggling to overcoming the stigma of silence in marriage.
In this episode, Whit has a candid conversation with Lance and Brandy Salazar on how they brought their marriage back from the brink of divorce and how God is using their story to help couples today.
Show notes: Listen to the Message: What Does Marriage Show Me About My Relationship with Jesus? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=jTwJ5tYGpEb8nJ4N&v=EzEz_iDojLk&feature=youtu.be
Don't do life alone! Find a group on our Group Finder: https://my.churchonthemove.com/groupfinder
Power is often misunderstood. We tend to associate power with entitlement—something earned or deserved. Yet, in Ephesians 5:25, Paul instructs husbands to “love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.” This command flips the common understanding of power upside down. Jesus invites us into this countercultural way of living, where the real path to freedom is through service and self-denial.
In this episode, Whit, Casey, and Lee dive deeper into the true meaning of sacrifice and leadership and the word Paul gives to husbands.
Show notes:
In this episode, they discuss the Myers Briggs personality types. Learn more here: https://www.16personalities.com/
Find Ray Ortlund's books: https://www.crossway.org/authors/ray-ortlund/
Learn more about our men’s ministry: https://churchonthemove.com/brotherhood
We are members of Christ's body, and this belonging informs the way we should love within a marriage. Our commitment to each other in marriage is a covenant, a mutual giving of oneself for the sake of the other. This covenantal love requires vulnerability, sacrifice, and intimacy. But how do we live this out well in a hyper-sexualized world?
In this episode, Whit, Casey and, Angela break down Paul’s letter in 1 Corinthians, how we can move through sexual brokenness and dysfunction, and how we can address these topics in our relationships and in our church community.
Show notes:
Katharos is an eight-week small group curriculum for men who want to put pornography in the past — for good. Find a Katharos group on our Groupfinder: Go to https://my.churchonthemove.com/groupfinder & filter by Midsize Group.
Find authentic community!
Check out our Daughters and Brotherhood ministries:
https://churchonthemove.com/brotherhood
https://churchonthemove.com/daughters
In this episode, they reference a previous podcast on Judah and Tamar. Find it here: https://churchonthemove.com/understanding-the-bible-judah-tamar/
Submission is a word that often brings with it feelings of apprehension. What did Paul really teach about submission in marriage in Ephesians 5? Paul’s letter was written to a community of Christ-followers, emphasizing unity in the body of Christ, including unity between husband and wife. However, his teachings on submission aren’t meant to be applied rigidly or without pastoral wisdom.
In this episode, Whit and Casey explore what submission looks like in ideal and less than ideal situations and how Paul is reorienting our understanding of God’s family and how it reflects the relationship between Christ and the Church.
Show notes:
Listen to the Message “Understanding the Mystery of Submission”https://youtu.be/Gqqew9VAjWw?si=MFRCf4gtnYXJEaF6
In this episode of Life in Motion, we dive deeper into the conversation sparked by our previous episode, "How to Boil Water." This time, we're tackling the often-taboo topic of sex and its significance within the church.
Join us as we explore the spiritual implications of sexual relationships and how our understanding of intimacy can be transformed. We discuss the importance of purity, the sacredness of marriage, and how our past experiences shape our views on sexuality.
Show notes:
Check out our previous episode - Intimacy: “Boiling Water” & Not Reading the “Spicy” Books: https: //youtu.be/ovC93OfnsII?si=041x2tBGQS4d7daA
Check out our series on marriage: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoikPSaa5DXdvzGClGm07n_H529TEcL-0
We all know the importance of our words. Yet, many of us speak without thinking. We don't consider the listener's communication style, how they might receive what we say, or how we can invite Jesus into the conversation.
In this episode, we discuss practical ways to learn to speak in a way that your spouse can understand and stay curious in our conversations.
It may be tempting to jump right to change how you talk to each other, and while that could bring some quick results, if something deeper doesn't change, your words will eventually drift back to causing harm. Scripture teaches us that our words reflect our hearts. The real issue isn't just communication—it's a heart problem only Jesus can fix.
So, let's talk about it!
Show notes:
Watch the Message - The Life and Death of Words in Your Marriage: https://youtu.be/OLYmxNo_DFE
Center Church: Doing Balanced, Gospel-Centered Ministry in Your City
How to Stay Married: The Most Insane Love Story Ever Told
Friendship in marriage is not optional; it’s essential. Without it, you’re missing out on the fullness of joy in your relationships. Just like Christ came near to us, we must come near to each other, being vulnerable, humble, and committed to seeking each other’s glory. This is what makes our marriages—and our Christ communities—truly flourish.
In this episode, Whit and Lyndsey explore the picture Jesus gives us of true friendship, what it looks like to step into each other’s world, appreciating each other’s differences, and the power of vulnerability.
Show notes:
Watch the Message - Keep Being Friends: https://youtu.be/ms2JpQEve90?si=6TfFqqltNPnkvQfd
In this episode, Whit references The Meaning of Marriage by Timothy Keller
A lot of marriages can feel like two neighboring countries—independent, coexisting, but not really intertwined in purpose. On the other hand, some partners might lose their individuality, becoming overly enmeshed in the relationship. But there’s a middle ground we’re called to move toward: interdependence.
In this episode, Whit and Casey explore how couples can find a common horizon, understand the deep meaning behind being "one flesh," and discover the path to becoming the fullest version of themselves—whether in marriage or as individuals.
Show notes:
Listen to the message: Marriage: Interdependency, Equal but Different,
& Fighting for Each Other: https://youtu.be/E77fo_I74Bo?si=PTz2qCMNP-XAYMsZ
In today’s world, relationships often resemble a consumer model—a value proposition where we constantly weigh what we get from the relationship against what we have to put in. It’s a balancing act: Is this still worth it? When the scales tip in the wrong direction, many of us are tempted to move on. This mindset, however, contrasts sharply with the concept of covenant relationships we see in Scripture.
In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about creating a foundation of commitment over feelings and the nature of covenant relationships—both in marriage and with God.
Show Notes
Listen to the message: Marriage: Faithful Commitment Vs Feelings: https://youtu.be/j4cSJTdrKMQ?si=9HpxYLDG3Hfvbu_S
In this episode, they mention these books:
The Epic of Eden by Sandy L. Richters
How to Stay Married by Harrison Scott Key
In today’s world, navigating our relationships—whether in dating, marriage, family, or community—can feel like walking a tightrope. The constant noise from media, culture, and societal expectations makes it hard to discern what’s truly beneficial and aligned with our faith. So how do we approach these sensitive topics within a faith community?
In this episode, Heather and Jamie dive into a candid conversation about intimacy, aging, recognizing when media crosses the line, and tackling important yet often overlooked discussions in the Church.
*Note: This episode is not recommended for those under 18—please listen with discretion.
Show Notes:
Check out our series on biblical marriage: https://churchonthemove.com/howtobemarried
In this episode, Jamie recommends this resource: How to Tell Your Kids About Sex by Stan and Brenna Jones
Marriage is more than just a relationship between two people; it's a profound reflection of how God loves us. Yet, in today's culture, there are many misconceptions about marriage—arguably the most intimate and challenging of human relationships. If God is speaking to us through marriage, it’s crucial that we understand what He has to say.
In this episode, Whit and Casey discuss Ephesians 4 and unpack the biggest problem to our marriages: self-centeredness and the antidote: the gospel.
Show notes:
Check Out the Message: Beginning the Journey to a Healthy Marriage:https://youtu.be/kvaOVqAVSmc?si=e0-jt6o_EkLwittG
Renovation of the Heart by Dallas Willard
https://www.amazon.com/Renovation-Heart-Character-Designed-Influence/dp/1576832961
How to Stay Married by Harrison Scott Key
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/How-to-Stay-Married/Harrison-Scott-Key/9781668015650
Do I really have to honor someone I disagree with? Malachi, the last prophetic voice before the coming of Christ, addresses a generation that had become complacent, dishonoring, and lacking integrity, and his message still resonates today. Malachi reminds us that our actions, both in small and large matters, reflect our understanding of who God is.
In this episode, Whit and Casey discuss reverence, honor, and integrity in our relationship with God and others.
Show notes:
Check out the message: Malachi: How to Have Christlike Honor In a Dishonoring World https://youtu.be/1iAkoyF-Lqk
The pain we refuse to process only lingers, but the Book of Joel reveals God's path to restoration and renewal. God doesn’t want your religious behavior—He desires for you to bring the fullness of your brokenness to Him, allowing Him to begin His transformative work.
In this episode, Whit and Casey explore the prophet Joel, the importance of lament, the steps of genuine repentance, and how to create space for God to move in our lives.
Show notes:
Listen to the message: Joel: A Pattern for Renewal
youtu.be/bacJvWTzov4?si=THDha9Wq4jeKcXCc
Join us for our upcoming series on what the Bible says about marriage! https://churchonthemove.com/howtobemarriedhttps://
The book of Zechariah offers both a prophetic glimpse into the future and a powerful message for the present. Brimming with vivid imagery and symbolism, it reveals the critical role of the Holy Spirit in fulfilling God’s purposes. But how do we interpret this rich symbolism, and what does the Holy Spirit's influence look like in our lives today?
In this episode, Whit and Casey delve into Zechariah chapters 3 and 4, exploring the work of the Holy Spirit and what it means to be a living sacrifice.
Show Notes:
Check out the message: Zechariah: How the Spirit of God Works Through you: https://youtu.be/rioNZMGoLLI?si=-dLrv5aidBdhww6i
Our emotions are not off-limits! In this episode, Jamie and Heather talk about what they thought of the movie Inside Out 2. They explore how different life stages, like puberty and menopause, can impact our emotions and thoughts, and how crucial godly community is to our sense of self. Grab your popcorn and come along for the ride!
Prayer is not a place to be perfect; it's a place to be honest. Habakkuk begins by pouring his heart out to God, lamenting the injustice and wickedness he sees. This kind of raw honesty can be uncomfortable, but God wants us to bring our whole selves to Him in prayer—the good, the bad, and the ugly.
In this episode, Whit and Casey explore the cultural context of Habakkuk, praying honest prayers, God’s relationship to evil, and our hope for the future.
Show notes:
Listen to the message: Habakkuk: Bring Your Whole Self to God: https://youtu.be/KOfAi935rCk?si=WDJ0SMqqbpicest1
In this episode, Casey references a quote from Where Prayer Becomes Real by Kyle Strobel
The devil doesn't always tempt us with things that are obviously evil—sometimes he tempts us with comfort. Wrestling with God involves not compromising in moments of discomfort. It means taking your whole self to the Lord and saying, "I don't know if I can trust you, but I'm going to dig into your word and community to find out."
In this episode, Jamie and Heather talk about what it means to wrestle with God, dealing with discomfort, and the power of community.
Show notes:
In this episode, they mention a message from our series on Ruth. Check it out here: https://youtu.be/bZlag24TP34?si=EQ-IeQI61g5tQyhb
They also mention the book Jesus the King by Timothy Keller
We have an insatiable appetite for stories. Art helps us make sense of the world, bypassing logic and getting directly at the heart. The story of Ruth teaches us in four chapters what Ruth and Naomi learned over a lifetime.
In this episode, Whit and Lyndsey discuss ruth chapter 3, the power of story, how to make sense of the seemingly risqué actions of Ruth, complete submission and vulnerability, and how it all points to Jesus.
Show notes:
Listen the message Ruth: Vulnerability & Risk https://youtu.be/ykj9c2PC7Vk?si=fjSpN6rKDbooW7ZY
Lace up your shoes – we’re going on a walk! In this episode, Heather shares about her transformative experience walking the Camino Santiago pilgrimage.
Throughout her 170 mile walk, Heather found solace in the simplicity of being present in the moment, meditating on scripture, and communing with the Lord. Her literal walk was a powerful picture of what it can look like to walk with the Lord in life, trusting Him to guide us step-by-step.
Show notes:
Check out our series: How to Hear God https://churchonthemove.com/howtoheargod
Life doesn’t always turn out the way we hope or plan. When we face loss and disappointment, we may question if God is who He says He is. We can learn a lot about facing adversity from the story of Ruth and Naomi, who both lose everything they have but continue to move toward God.
In this episode, Whit and Chris discuss navigating suffering, wrestling with God, small steps of faithfulness, and God’s partnership with man.
Show notes: Listen to the Message: Faithfully Following God in the Face of Loss https://youtu.be/bZlag24TP34?si=kI3lLbVh2vB8Lk7i In this episode, Chris recommends these books: The Problem of Pain by C.S. Lewis
The God I Don’t Understand by Christopher Wright
If you didn’t know, the Old Testament has some pretty crazy stories. One of the challenges in understanding ancient texts like Ruth is the vast cultural gap between then and now. Ruth unfolds against the backdrop of the time of the judges, a period marked by moral decline and spiritual turbulence in Israel.
In this episode, Whit and Casey take a deep dive into the cultural, historical, and biblical context of the story.
Show notes:
Check out Part 2 of this Conversation: https://youtu.be/t-H53kDIi4g?si=xwucHNsCoHxurcps
Check out the Message: An Introduction to the Book of Ruth https://youtu.be/LY-ParQ4gpQ?si=m-OW4CWIDf9oKbfh
Check Out this Podcast:
Does the Old Testament Dehumanize Women? Dr. Sandy Richter https://youtu.be/AjnMM36QUjA?si=o8LFfzpyxncOmNk0
Check Out this Book:
Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes by E. Randolph Richards and Brandon J. O’Brien
To read the story of Ruth as a romantic love story is to miss the full picture of God’s faithfulness in horrific circumstances. It is about love –– but the covenantal, sacrificial kind of Ruth to Naomi and God to His people.
In the second part of their conversation about Ruth, Whit and Casey explore how God works through people and places to form us.
Show notes: Check Out Part 1 of this Conversation: https://youtu.be/nK1BNLPmE2s?si=qHS0PUMt5yeJp8Z9
Check out the Message: An Introduction to Ruth https://youtu.be/LY-ParQ4gpQ?si=M5wo9_RBE6nRgu2_
In this episode, Whit recommends stepbible.org as a Bible study tool.
Have you ever felt like God speaks more clearly to others than to you? In the noise of life, discerning God's voice can be a challenge. But we have good news: you can get better at recognizing God’s voice!
In this episode, Spiritual Formation Pastors Casey Shirley and Blake Zimmerman talk about how God speaks through His Spirit, the power of community, and learning to pay attention to God’s voice even in the mundane.
Show notes:
Listen to the message: Normalizing the Voice of the Holy Spirit in Your Life https://youtu.be/CQWrUVEmC4E?si=IENeNegjWx1yFrKv
In this episode, Blake mentions the book Windows of the Soul by Ken Gire
As parents, one of our greatest desires is to see our children not only get along but also develop long-lasting bonds that last their whole lives. How do we help our kids want to stay close to us and to each other?
In this episode, Heather and Jamie get vulnerable about their own sibling dynamics, discuss healthy communication, and share their hopes for the future of their family relationships.
A lot of us respect the Bible but if we’re honest with ourselves, we struggle to love it. We haven't learned to "consume" what's spiritually nourishing. Scripture is not just literature; it's spiritual fuel, essential for our growth and vitality.
In this episode, Whit and Casey discuss how to learn and grow in our understanding and love of God’s Word.
Show notes:
Check out the Message: How to Hear God Through His Word https://youtu.be/cZi3yfjiAO4?si=FTDQrxvMU6BkML3h
Bible Resources:
Eat This Book by Eugene Peterson How to Read the Bible for All It’s Worth by Gordon D. Fee and Douglas Stuart
The Bible Project: https://bibleproject.com/
Bible Recap: https://www.thebiblerecap.com/
Bible Books in 30 Minutes Podcast: https://podcast24.co.uk/podcasts/bible-books-in-30-minutes-audio
Study Scripture in Community: https://churchonthemove.com/cotmu
Sometimes it feels impossible to hear God in a world filled with distractions and doubts. We often want a miraculous, "burning bush" moment. But what if He's speaking through the ordinary, day-to-day? In this episode, Whit and Casey explore the pivotal role of wisdom, the common pitfalls we encounter in seeking God's voice, and their own encounters with God's guidance. Show notes: Listen to the Message “God Wants to Speak to You”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkR2BfQdeZ4 Check out the Life in Motion episode that was referenced “Finding Purpose in Every Season”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJZ3pnOidgU
Is Jesus offering us a hard and miserable life? At the end of the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus unveils two distinct paths: one to life and one to death. The path to life is one of repentance and devotion – it requires leaving everything behind. But the treasure is worth the cost.
In this episode, Whit and Casey explore the road to life Jesus sets out in the Sermon on the Mount and the historical and cultural impact of Christianity.
Show notes:
Listen to the Message: Easter 2024 | Enter by the Narrow Gate: https://youtu.be/M7FBU1Ac9m8?si=MvGP8NSRwVvdQe-t
Change is a constant in life. If you’re not prepared for a changing season, you can find yourself at loose ends, thinking, well, now what? It’s so important to find purpose wherever you’re at, and that happens best in godly community. In this episode, Jamie and Heather get vulnerable about where they’re at and how they can flourish in every area of their lives.
If you’re feeling stuck in your season, this is a great episode for you.
Show notes:
In this episode, Jamie mentions the book The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk
Find our How to Be Human series here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoikPSaa5DXeOZsjJTmyB-qz9nSxKzmlF&si=996W64vP3VWBvxBf
Nothing can make us feel like a god quite like money––it gets to the heart of both our desires and our needs. In a world vying for our attention at every turn, Jesus challenges us to examine what truly has priority in our lives. You can’t serve God and money, so which will it be?
In this episode, Whit and Casey break down Matthew 6:19-34. They talk about spiritual practices to decenter money from our lives, learning dependence on God, and more!
Show notes:
Listen to the message Navigating Jesus' Teachings: Money, Attention & Your Needs: https://youtu.be/nEu3pjyxRQQ?si=oA_AKKA4A90XUIti
In this episode, Whit mentions the book East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Why does prayer often feel awkward and uncomfortable? We often struggle with feelings of inadequacy, striving for the perfect words while missing the authentic connection with God. The basis of prayer is not performance but relationship. So, how should we pray?
In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about their personal experiences with prayer, our misconceptions about God, and what Jesus had to say about prayer.
Show notes:
Listen to the Message How to Pray: https://youtu.be/vhdJb0B2gwk?si=vG6OP6mxZ2GMAdaM
In this episode, Whit mentions the book Sacred Pathways by Gary Thomas
What advice would you give your younger self? In this episode, Jamie and Heather have a candid conversation about Heather turning 50 and the unexpected reflections and realizations that come with it.
They talk about the complexities of aging, parenting, the pressures of social media, and living to the fullest in every season of life. Plus, they have a lot of fun along the way!
We live in a time where we can curate and present our lives for optimal praise and validation. Social media preys on a desire built into every human heart - the desire for approval. Wanting approval isn’t a bad thing. In fact, we’re hardwired for it. The question is, who are we seeking approval from?
In this episode, Whit and Casey dive deeper into Matthew 6, shame and honor vs. guilt and innocence cultures, approval in the age of social media, and the transforming initiative of secrecy.
Show Notes:
Watch the Message: https://youtu.be/z3_2bAxKB_I?si=xZAQN3cQlkyWvyRS
If you missed last week's message, you can watch it here: https://youtu.be/ggaXvfRveQE?si=Ze10SqyONVPDdqIb
In this episode, Whit mentions these books,
-Remaking the World by Andrew Wilson
-A Secular Age by Charles Taylor
-Making Sense of God by Timothy Keller
-Misreading Scripture with Western Eyes by E. Randolph Richards & Brandon J. O'Brien
At first glance, passages where Jesus addresses marriage and divorce are confusing at best and harsh at worst. But when we begin to peel back the layers and grasp the context, we see that Jesus is actually elevating our view of marriage.
In this episode, Whit and Casey discuss interpreting difficult passages, covenantal commitment, and how marriage should look in the Kingdom of Jesus.
Show notes:
Listen to the message What Does the Bible Say About Marriage? https://youtu.be/q7yRHj73CHo?si=gz41q18gHoG3DbcY
Jesus pulls no punches in His Sermon on the Mount. He directly addresses the ways we tend to drift from His way of life. Rather than abolishing the wisdom of the past, He seeks to deepen and amplify it, infusing it with new relevance.
In this episode, Whit, Blake, and Casey explore Matthew 5:17-30, what it means for Jesus to fulfill the law, and the pitfalls of anger and lust.
Show notes:
Watch the message: The Way Out of Anger and Lust https://youtu.be/3V2tgE3YYO0?si=A3Ry6GIqwikAjrb8
Since they last recorded, Jamie and Heather have experienced significant milestones! With one child walking down the aisle and another navigating college, they've found themselves in a new season of parenting.
In this episode, they talk about releasing control, the importance of community, walking through open doors without excuses, and their ins and outs for 2024!
Show notes:
Jamie mentions she is doing the Bible Recap challenge this year. You can join her here: https://www.thebiblerecap.com/
Christianity is more than an adherence to certain beliefs. It’s an embodied faith, a process of becoming–– a way of life as taught and demonstrated by Jesus. In this episode, Casey and Whit talk about the last four beatitudes which urge us to be merciful, pure of heart, a peacemaker, and to expect opposition. What does it look like to live this out in 2024?
Show notes:
Listen to the message How to Be a Merciful Follower of Christ https://youtu.be/v7m7OlEkveA?si=5GF2pjQvV8NdV2wd
According to Sermon on the Mount, there’s a way to live that will make life better for you, but it might sound counterintuitive. In the first four beatitudes, Jesus invites you to be poor in spirit, to mourn, to be meek, and to hunger and thirst for righteousness, which may leave you thinking, wait, what? But we can explain.
In this episode, Whit and Casey explore meme culture, Old Testament references, and the qualities of a Kingdom seeker.
Show notes: Check out the message: How to Be a Kingdom Seeker: https://youtu.be/8gORP9b0NKo?si=w5zgmM_JMM8Ytsgy
In this episode, they the following books:
Hitler's Furies by Wendy Lower: https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Furies-German-Killing-Fields/dp/0547863381
Cost of Discipleship by Dietrich Bonhoeffer https://www.amazon.com/Cost-Discipleship-Dietrich-Bonhoeffer/dp/0684815001
Every community has a set of rules and values to live by; this is what it means to be us. That’s exactly what Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount is for Christians. In Matthew 5-7, Jesus gives us instructions for how to live in His new kingdom. He’s both forming an identity for the church and telling us how to be human.
In this episode, Whit and Casey explore how the Sermon on the Mount should be understood and applied, and what it means to truly thrive.
Show notes: Check out the message: What Does "Blessed" Really Mean in the Bible? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZYhKdXYqzs&t=2330s
In a world where the pace of technological advancement is ever-increasing, we find ourselves navigating a divide between generations like never before. There is a forward momentum to a life with God. So, how do we relate to the people who came before us and the people coming after us?
In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about passing the baton to future generations, leaving the past behind, and simple steps of obedience.
Show Notes:
Listen to the message: Navigating Generational Gaps in Church and Culture: https://youtu.be/0AKT8ce3i8Y?si=DDYbCXMkoqFCXIuq Casey mentions the book Generations by Jean M. Twenge, Ph.D.: https://cotm.us/generations
Have you ever read a Bible story and thought, okay, but why? The Bible is filled with narratives, parables, and teachings that often leave us pondering the purpose behind God's actions. Some people avoid the "why" questions: Why did God create mankind? What's God's end game here? But they are necessary to get to the deeper truth: What God is going to do, He has been doing the whole time. In this episode, Whit and Lyndsey talk about the concept of Missio Dei, what God is up to in the world, and how we can be a part of it. Show notes: Listen to the message: https://youtu.be/x-9pxkI-Gh0?si=DYvmTpeq18kd5ewJ In this episode, Lyndsey references this message: https://youtu.be/diiPG7KGAuk?si=aUPq283yUbLSl4nb
How often do you think about the future? For many, thoughts of the future bring uncertainty and anxiety. But Revelation gives us a picture of the future, and (spoiler alert) God’s ultimate plan is fulfilled. This view of the future should change the way we live in the present. In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about existential angst, the final battle at Armageddon, and living a life of purpose. Show notes: Listen to the message: https://youtu.be/pDvIlzPGBGU?si=mvCk60C8z6r0wR8l
For many, the Anti-Christ is a figure that resides in the world of horror movies and fiction. But when we delve deeper into Revelation and look at history, we find that the idea of a charismatic and corrupt leader is not confined to the realms of fantasy. So, who is this anti-Christ, and what’s his mark?
In this episode, Whit and Casey answer questions like, How do we avoid falling prey to magnetic leaders? Can you accidentally take the mark of the beast? Show notes:
Listen to the message: https://youtu.be/Kw_3aZBnL_E?si=pkdxBQo5FbKRseNu
Revelation 6-8 takes us into the heart of a profound and often challenging aspect of the Bible: God's judgment. These chapters introduce us to the seven seals that contain divine judgment, and in doing so, they raise fundamental questions about God: Why does He judge? Why does He allow suffering? In this episode, Whit and Casey explore how we endure in the face of suffering, God’s mercy, and living with faithful confidence. Show notes: Listen to the message: https://youtu.be/YGM8oTDvrLU?si=m6kCeOpSzdPTLUJF In this episode, Casey mentions the book Reversed Thunder by Eugene Peterson https://www.amazon.com/Reversed-Thunder-Revelation-Praying-Imagination/dp/0060665033
Have you ever noticed how art bypasses logic and goes straight to our hearts? Art makes us ask, "What does it mean?" Revelation 4 & 5 are filled with artistic language that’s meant to function in this same way — to describe the indescribable. In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about the spiritual dimension, how creativity connects us to God, and God’s will for humanity. Show notes: Listen to the message The Throne, the Scroll, & the Lamb: https://youtu.be/A21KX9KbGzo?si=l6ItbkqGEoPSV6MZ
God has chosen to speak primarily to and through His Church. But are we listening? Revelation 2-3 contains messages and warnings from Jesus through the apostle John. When we understand the cultural context of these letters, we can more accurately understand what the Spirit was saying and heed the message ourselves. In this episode, Whit and Casey discuss the dangers of defending truth apart from love, a self-sufficient mindset, and becoming disconnected from the Source. Show notes: Check out the message: https://youtu.be/ZYnYxm_ff8c?si=KwyPHZBsABjfrM4r
The Book of Revelation has fascinated and perplexed readers for centuries. Some people view it as a code to be cracked, others as a scary book to be avoided. But one thing remains clear: the church needs it. In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about how we should approach the book of Revelation and its significance both for the historical church and our personal journeys. Show notes: Watch the Message: https://youtu.be/pvaLuID0Avs
Whether you’ve got a lot or a little, money keeps a tight grip on our hearts. But when we shift our focus to God, we are willing to do whatever He asks. Trusting God with your resources is like putting a deposit in a heavenly place and allowing God to pay you back in His way and in His time. In this episode, Pastors Whit and Willie George talk about shifting their perspective on money, being connected to the God of endless supply, and radical generosity. Shownotes: Watch the Message: https://youtu.be/VSaSDNM8Glg
Scripture is meant to be experienced, but we can’t experience it (and run the risk of shallow spirituality) if we’re simply reading it and moving on.
In this episode, Casey and Whit dive into Proverbs 3:5-6. They challenge our approach to Jesus, address the pitfalls of rigid thinking, and reveal the importance of acknowledging God's presence in the everyday, mundane moments.
Shownotes: Watch the Message: https://youtu.be/Wk2a0b7opXo In this episode, Whit mentions the book Jesus the King by Timothy Keller https://timothykeller.com/books/jesus-the-king\
Movies have the unique power to spark conversations and allow us to engage with different perspectives. As Christians, we have to look for opportunities to engage people. In this bonus episode, Jamie and Heather talk about what they thought of the "Barbie" movie. How do we talk about our value, our experience in the world, and even our bodies as women? Let’s talk about it! Disclaimer: This episode contains spoilers for the "Barbie" movie.
A tension that arises as kids grow older is knowing when to help them and when to let them fend for themselves. It’s a tension that Heather and Jamie have yet to figure out, but they’re trying their best. And isn’t that all anyone can do? In this episode, they talk about knowing when to step in, raising unentitled kids, and things their families do that drive them crazy. Spoiler Alert: Community is key!
Our families are often the people who can drive us the craziest. But our closest relationships make us who we are. Jamie and Heather wonder if God put people so drastically different from them in their family to teach them how to communicate. In this episode, they talk about family values, embracing their differences, working through relational conflict, and leaning into the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Family is messy, but family matters.
There’s a tension when it comes to justice that we have to wrestle with: the tension of compassion and judgment, but also the tension of the individual and the community. Life isn’t black and white, and the Proverbs make this clear. So, in a complicated and broken world, how can we become people of justice?
In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about the nature of justice, navigating nuanced situations, and reconciling the goodness of God with the injustice we still see in the world. Show notes: In this episode, Whit references the book Dominion by Tom Holland
Have you ever wondered, "when will I feel like an adult?" Jamie and Heather sure have. As they watch their kids grow and mature, it's highlighted the areas they themselves still need to grow. But maybe it’s part of God’s design that we grow up with our kids.
In this episode, they talk about crying on social media, retaining their youthfulness, and modeling maturity for their kids (well, trying).
Heather and Jamie have decided it’s time to have "the talk" with their younger kids. We often don’t talk about certain things because it feels too scary or complicated. But when we’re willing to tell the truth, we become safe places for our kids.
In this episode, they tackle topics like walking in humility with your spouse, broaching uncomfortable conversations, and telling the truth – even when it’s painful or awkward.
DISCLAIMER: this episode talks about sex and puberty, so be advised when listening around young children.
Show notes:
In this episode, they recommend Stan and Brenna Jones’ God’s Design for Sex Series.
They also talk about Judy Blume's book Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret.
Do you ever find that it’s easy to trust God with some things and hard to trust Him with others? We’re often selective about what we fully give to the Lord, especially when it comes to our kids.
Parenting (especially young adults) has tested Jamie and Heather’s trust in God in big ways recently. In this episode, they talk about hair appointments, playing God, and trusting the Lord with their feelings: big and small.
You’ve probably heard the old adage, “sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.” And you’ve probably come to learn that it just simply isn’t true. Proverbs has a lot to say about the power of words: “The tongue has the power of life and death . . .” Proverbs 18:21.
How we speak to each other, give and receive correction, and work through conflict matters. In this episode, Whit and Casey explore the power of words in our relationships. They discuss speaking with integrity, having hard conversations with friends, and the hope we have because of the gospel.
Show notes:
Listen to the message: https://youtu.be/mtsy7gUeM8o
Download Pete Scazzero's Latter of Integrity: https://dl01.churchonthemove.com/file/753
It’s easier than ever to be influenced by pop culture, celebrities, social media, etc. What you consume shapes and forms you. So, it begs the question, what are you being influenced by?
In this episode, Jamie and Heather discuss a wide range of topics including the impossible pressures of social media, finding contentment, how a real relationship with Jesus completely changed the way they view success, and, naturally, Taylor Swift.
Show notes: In this episode, they mention the books, Proverbs: Wisdom that Works by Ray Ortland Domestic Monestary by Ronald Rolheiser
We've all been around full-grown adults that behave like children... and if you're being honest, you've likely been one of those adult children yourself. So, what do you do when you notice a pattern of immaturity in your life?
In this episode, Whit George and Casey Shirley discuss the pathway to maturity. They talk about holding two character traits in tension: Submission and Agency. Learn how to address patterns of immaturity in various aspects of life and embrace your true identity and purpose as guided by God.
Is telling a lie ever okay? Are you hurting your relationships with the words you speak or don’t speak? To kick off their summer break, Heather and Jamie recently went to see a movie together that left them asking themselves these very questions. In this episode, they explore the nuance of communication, navigating people’s feelings, and telling the truth even when it’s hard.
Show Notes:
In this episode, they talk about the movie You Hurt My Feelings
(Disclaimer: This movie is rated R for language)
What should we make of the brokenness and suffering in our world? What is God in control of? In this episode, Whit sits down with one of our Tulsa Pastors, Chris Turner, to wrap up our series on Joseph. Chris shares about his experience of losing his mother and how that tragedy shaped his walk with God. They explore views on the sovereignty of God, how He can use evil for good, and get vulnerable about what it’s like to prepare and preach a message. Show Notes: Listen to the message: https://youtu.be/wF8iZeGIjGY
Why should you forgive others? Is forgiving someone letting them off the hook? Forgiveness is at the core of the story of Joseph and at the core of the biblical message. It’s not as simple as forgive and forget. In fact, forgiveness, like most things in life, is complicated and nuanced. In this episode, Whit and Lyndsey talk about the stages of forgiveness and paint of picture of what biblical forgiveness truly is.
Show Notes
Listen to the Message: https://youtu.be/eE5MLgoYdPE
Recommended reading on the complexity of life, suffering, and forgiveness:
- Joseph: A Story of Love, Hate, Slavery, Power, and Forgiveness by John Lennox
- Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Martyr, Prophet, Spy by Eric Metaxas
- The Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom
- Mending the Soul by Steven R. Tracey
We often don’t approach tests of any kind with excitement. But it’s only through testing seasons in life that we’re given the opportunity to be forged shaped into who God created us to be and prepared for all that He has for us. In this episode, Whit and Casey talk about the nature of tests, give some practical steps for setting boundaries, and wrestle with the complexity of life and faith. Show notes: Check out the blog: https://churchonthemove.com/understanding-testing-seasons/ Listen to the message: https://youtu.be/IcoBd7NiTHc
In this episode, they mention the books -The Making of a Leader by Dr. Robert Clinton -Boundaries by Dr. Henry Cloud & Dr. John Townsend
We’re living in a time where people often feel like they should only do things that connect with their dreams, heart, or purpose. But it was never Joseph’s dream to run an Egyptian household or prison. In this episode, Pastor Whit sits down with our Founding Pastor, Willie George, to talk more about the significance of diligence, desperation, and leaning in when things get hard. They share personal experiences of being diligent in hard times and some powerful insights from the story of Joseph. Show notes: Listen to the message: https://youtu.be/b1BhLchoNMU Check out the blog: https://churchonthemove.com/diligence-in-hard-times/
This is a special bonus episode of Tell Me More About! Whit and Casey dig into Genesis 38: the bizarre and seemingly out-of-place story of Judah and Tamar.
Sometimes, you read something in the Bible and think woah, what is that? Why is this chapter included? How can we understand it in the context of the culture it was written in? It’s important not to blow past these instances but to turn back and investigate. So, that’s exactly what we’re going to do!
Show notes:
Listen to the Theology in the Raw episode they reference: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0YYCjjk3fI0iNoB9xEhp6U?si=lphDEwlBRFmU1JiiTk7e1g
Check out the blog: https://churchonthemove.com/understanding-the-bible-judah-tamar/
Whit and Casey welcome a very special guest: Heather George! This past weekend’s message “In the Meantime” was taught from a pretty personal place in Whit’s life. In this episode, Whit and Heather share more about “In the Meantime” seasons in their own lives and dive deeper into Joseph’s journey in Genesis 39.
They have open and honest dialogue about dealing with frustration in marriage, their own personal journeys of formation through adversity, embracing the season you’re in, what it means to become a good leader, and more!
Show notes:
Listen to the message: https://youtu.be/2z881Q-dO_k
In this episode, Whit mentions the book Jesus is King by Timothy Keller Check out the blog: https://churchonthemove.com/in-the-meantime-seasons-seasons-of-testing/
Tell Me More About is a podcast with our Lead Pastor Whit George. He answers questions and talks about things he didn’t get to talk about on the weekend.
Joseph is an epic story within another epic story: the book of Genesis. Throughout Genesis, we see God’s promise that He will redeem creation through a family. But this gets complicated, because, well, family is messy. In episode one, Whit and Casey talk about analyzing and navigating family culture and answer questions like, why should I have to do something about something that was done to me? How do I fix a situation that feels broken beyond repair? Where do I even start? Watch the episode on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbdmxUkqNfo
Show notes:
Find the weekend message they're referring to here: https://youtu.be/tOGJUGU1aFM Download the Family Excavation Tool: https://dl01.churchonthemove.com/file/752 Check out the blog: https://churchonthemove.com/navigating-family-culture/
Welcome to Day 12 of Watch & Pray – a short, guided prayer podcast for the 12 days leading up to Easter. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 7:24-29 If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-12-a-house-on-the-rock-guided-prayer/
Welcome to Day 11 of our 12-day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 7:12 If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-11-the-golden-rule-guided-prayer/
Welcome to Day 10 of our 12-day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 7:7-11 If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-10-seek-and-you-will-find-guided-prayer/
Welcome to Day 9 of our 12-day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 6:25-33 If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-9-do-not-be-anxious-guided-prayer/
Welcome to Day 8 of our 12-day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 6:16-23 If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-8-what-do-you-treasure-guided-prayer/
Welcome to Day 7 of our 12-Day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 6:9-13 If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-7-the-lords-prayer-guided-prayer/
Welcome to Day 6 of our 12-Day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 5:43-48 If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-6-love-your-enemy-guided-prayer/
Welcome to Day 5 of our 12-Day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 5:13-16. If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-5-the-salt-of-the-earth-guided-prayer/
Welcome to Day 4 of our 12-Day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 5:1-11. If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-4-two-types-of-blessings-guided-prayer/
Welcome to Day 3 of our 12-day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 4:18-22. If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-3-the-invitation-of-jesus-guided-prayer/
We all need community to truly grow from dysfunction and unhealthy patterns. Healthy correction can’t happen without authentic community, because true friends will point out the dysfunction we’ve become blind to.
In the last episode of season six, Heather and Jamie talk about growth in community, giving and receiving correction, and finding joy in unexpected places. Shownotes: In this episode, the book Out of the Cave by Chris Hodges is mentioned
Check Out the Blog: https://churchonthemove.com/community-the-key-to-growth/ Learn More About Our Church: https://churchonthemove.com/
Welcome to Day 2 of our 12-day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 4:1-11. If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-2-the-temptation-of-jesus-guided-prayer/
Welcome to Day 1 of our 12-day guided prayer podcast. Take a moment to prepare yourself by putting away distractions, setting aside mental to-do lists, and finding a place where for the next 10 minutes or so you can give yourself entirely to the task of prayer. Today’s Scripture is Matthew 3:13-17. If you'd like to read along as you listen, check out this episode's transcript: https://churchonthemove.com/day-1-the-baptism-of-jesus-guided-prayer/
Do you ever feel like you ride the emotional highs of life only to come crashing down to the emotional lows of the mundane and trivial? We have good news: you don’t have to live a life of super highs followed by unhealthy lows. Jamie came to the realization that she might actually be addicted to the stress hormones released in times of stress and busyness, but she’s ready to focus on finding balance. In this episode, Jamie and Heather talk about saying no and setting boundaries, being aware of unhealthy thoughts and patterns, and learning to walk in a steady season of joy. Shownotes: In this episode, they mention the books Out of the Cave by Chris Hodges and Living From the Heart Jesus Gave You. Jamie is wearing a t-shirt supporting Chris Munch Comedy. You can find him on Tiktok or Instagram at @chrismunchcomedy Read the Blog: https://churchonthemove.com/learning-to-find-balance/ Learn More About Our Church: https://churchonthemove.com/
Do you find yourself often regretting your reactions to conflict, inconveniences, or problems in your life (big or small)?
• "I should be more mature by now!"
• "Why do I let these things get to me?"
• "Wow, I really overreacted..."
Although it doesn't always feel like it, you can change the way you respond to life's ups and downs. In this week's episode, Heather learns a helpful analogy for understanding the emotional parts of the brain (the tiger) and the thinking parts of the brain (the owl), and how they interact with each other.
Jamie and Heather talk about enabling others and themselves, dealing with big emotions, and finding joy in the midst of it all.
Learn More About Our Church at https://churchonthemove.com/
“I want you to be successful, so I’m going to do this for you.” How many times have you found yourself doing for others what they can and should do for themselves? Often, we do this so that we don’t have to take on the emotional weight of someone else's failure, but then we inevitably end up carrying burdens that aren’t ours to carry. Instead, they’re ours to manage, navigate, and equip others to carry for themselves. In this episode, Jamie and Heather admit their over-functioning tendencies and identify where they want to grow in raising kids who love Jesus and have the skills and maturity to take care of themselves. Parenting, and life in general, is undoubtedly hard, so it’s all about choosing your hard wisely. We promise, there will be joy on the other side. Read the Blog: https://churchonthemove.com/overfunctioning-doing-for-others-what-they-can-do-for-themselves/ Learn More About Our Church at https://churchonthemove.com/
Let's be honest, life can be messy! There's constantly a tension of feeling joy and carrying heaviness at the same time.
In this episode, Jamie and Heather talk about how they naturally respond to hard things — spoiler alert: they're very different — and how they rebound back to joy. Looking back on their lives, they see how their responses have changed over the years and how they want to continue growing in the years to come.
Can we challenge you this week? Find a way to laugh every day. It may seem silly, but it’s a powerful way to find sparks of joy in the midst of the hard and the mundane. Read the Blog: https://churchonthemove.com/findingjoywhenthestruggleisreal
Shownotes:
Want to dive deeper into how your brain processes joy? Check out the book Jamie references in this episode: Living From the Heart Jesus Gave You: https://www.amazon.com/Living-Heart-Jesus-Gave-You/dp/193562914X
Jamie and Heather are back! It’s been awhile since they’ve recorded an episode, so to warm up their podcast-hosting skills, they play the game We’re Not Really Strangers. They ask each other questions like, What was your first impression of me?, What would your younger self not believe about your life today?, and What title would you give this season of your life? They talk about sending kids to college, caring for aging parents, and making the most of getting older. Life hits everyone. But there are ways to walk though difficult seasons with joy. So in season six of Life in Motion, let’s talk about how to find joy in the season you’re in right now. We can do this!
Shownotes: The game Heather & Jamie play is "We're Not Really Strangers: Friendship Edition" https://www.werenotreallystrangers.com/collections/shop-all/products/friendship-edition
We can so quickly judge and reject people we don’t understand. This week, Jamie completed her homework assignment (well, mostly), so Jamie and Heather talk about the book Everything Sad is Untrue. The book opened their eyes to consider how many times we overlook people and revealed a universal truth: We all just want to be seen and heard. Plus, Jamie gives us a big update on her journey with depression.
Join us for a discussion on mental health red flags, Snap Chat predators, and building genuine connection with others. Let’s survive summer together in the sixth and final episode of our mini-series Surviving Summer.
Show Notes: In this episode, the book Everything Sad is Untrue by Daniel Nayeri is discussed.
When a school year ends there is always transition, and with transition there is always some loss. So how do we make space for feelings of loss and sadness while teaching our kids to embrace life open-handedly? In this episode, Jamie and Heather talk about learning to walk their kids through change, but they come to realization that maybe they still have a long way to go in learning how to deal with it themselves.
Join us for a discussion on parenting through difficulty, the power of community, and a homework assignment from Heather. Let’s survive summer together in the fifth episode of our mini-series called Surviving Summer.
Show Notes: In this episode, Heather mentions the book Everything Sad is Untrue by Daniel Nayeri. You can purchase the book here: https://rb.gy/3igfu1
Raising teens can sometimes feel like a battle of wills. In this episode, Jamie seeks parenting advice from Heather after a blowup with her son over dirty dishes. For our kids, summer doesn’t have a strict schedule, resulting in a lot of aimless time. Left to their own devices, they would probably watch TV and eat candy all day. Since they don’t understand the full perspective, we often have to make our kids do things they don’t want to do. It’s okay to empathize, but how do we draw a line in the sand?
Join us for a deep dive into parenting, family yoga gone wrong, and a book recommendation! Let’s survive summer together in the fourth episode of our mini-series called Surviving Summer.
Show Notes: In this episode, Heather mentions the book Everything Sad is Untrue by Daniel Nayeri. You can purchase the book here: https://www.amazon.com/Everything-Sad-Untrue-true-story/dp/1646140001
Summer isn’t always smooth sailing. In this episode, Jamie and Heather talk about some of the biggest challenges they’ve had this summer. Jamie talks about getting a notification that her husband had been in an accident, Heather talks about walking children through conflict in friendship, and together they ask hard-hitting questions like why is “in sickness and in health” the hardest vow to keep, and how much neighborhood pool PDA is too much?
Whether you’re at home with the kids, traveling, working, or everything in between – let’s survive summer together in the third episode of our mini-series called Surviving Summer.
This is episode 2 of our mini-series called Surviving Summer. Jamie and Heather went on vacation together! Family vacations are where lifetime memories are made, but with the mixing of two families and lots of personalities, they are not without their challenges. In this episode, Jamie and Heather recap their big family trip where they almost didn’t have a place to stay and became expert hikers. Jamie gives an update on her mental health and Heather talks about the challenges of being a maximizer on vacation. Whether you’re at home with the kids, traveling, working, or everything in between – let’s survive summer together!
This is the first episode of our mini-series called Surviving Summer. Jamie and Heather needed an excuse to get out the house, so they decided to start this series! But really, their summers have been quite eventful so far, and they have a lot to share. In this episode, Heather recaps her incredible trip to the Holy Lands where she saw ancient ruins and a synagogue where Jesus might have performed a miracle, Jamie gets really vulnerable about her depression journey, and both women share the story behind their tattoos. Whether you’re at home with the kids, traveling, working, or everything in between – let’s survive summer together!
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Poetry isn’t always easy to understand. We all have different experiences with the Psalms; sometimes we read them and think, “huh?” You may love the depth of emotion and vulnerability, or maybe you avoid them altogether. So, what do we do with them? How do we read and understand 150 chapters compiled over 1,000 years? In this episode, our Spiritual Formation Pastors, Angela Ekstrum, Casey Shirley, and Blake Zimmerman, explain the structure and history of the Psalms, the practices of lament and gratitude, and teach us how to approach reading scripture meditatively so that we can ultimately understand more about God and ourselves.
Shownotes:
Blake Zimmernman Sermon: When Prayer Becomes Real
Abraham’s Silence by Richard Middleton
Richard Middleton Lecture: “The Importance of Lament in the Life of Faith”
Bible Project Video: The Book of Psalms
In this bonus episode, Jamie and Heather invite a special guest, their producer Chris Munch, to talk about highlights from season four and their journey of faithfully following Jesus. At the start of the season, they wanted to focus on bringing their internal work to their external lives. So, did they succeed? Buckle up for some spiritual insight, some laughs, and an inside look at Life in Motion.
Shownotes:
You can find Chris Munch on Instagram and Tik Tok at @chrismunchcomedy
This episode, Jamie and Heather do something a little bit different. They talk about the movie Turning Red and share some insights from the film. The movie explores themes of growing up, the complicated relationship between teens and their parents, and the danger of stuffing emotions. Raising kids is scary. We can’t make our kids love and follow Jesus, but we can bring to light what scripture says. Remember what you were like as a young teen? Do our kids feel safe to truly share themselves with us? Let’s talk about all of this and more! SPOILER ALERT: This episode contains spoilers for the movie Turning Red*.
Faithfully following Jesus involves having clear and honest communication with the people in our lives. Trying to go it alone puts us into an exhausting cycle: we don’t ask for help, we become resentful, and we make things harder on ourselves. Jamie and Heather have had to learn the consequences of trying to do things in their own strength the hard way, and they are ready to break this cycle and move forward in their relationships in a way that not only honors the people they love, but honors God.
Shownotes:
Read our blog: https://churchonthemove.com/why-asking-for-help-honors-god
In this episode, A message called "Keep Your Eye on the Ball" is referenced. Listen to the message: https://youtu.be/hZEFOL5dij4
COTMU is designed to equip followers of Jesus to take their discipleship journey to the next level. Learn more: https://cotmu.churchonthemove.com/
We live in a culture that wears busyness like a badge of honor. How do you faithfully follow the Lord in a season where there doesn’t seem to be any margin for more of God? Both Heather and Jamie are in really busy seasons and have had to wrestle with the tension of rushing through moments versus being intentional and present in the daily rhythms of life. You want to show up for all the people in your life, but it feels like there’s just not enough time in the day or patience in your heart. So, what do you do? Let’s talk about it! Shownotes:
Read our Blog: https://churchonthemove.com/too-busy-for-god
In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about Blake’s message from the Daughters Conference. You can listen to that message here: https://youtu.be/OPGid2xhsm8
COTMU is designed to equip followers of Jesus to take their discipleship journey to the next level. Learn more: https://cotmu.churchonthemove.com/
This is part two of Angela Ekstrum, Blake Zimmerman, and Casey Shirley’s conversation around the spiritual practice of fasting. They answer common questions about fasting like, how do we talk about it with our kids? How do we handle spiritual practices in a family of nonbelievers? What do we do if we mess up? — and so many more! Check it out! Show Notes
Check our first episode on fasting called Fasting 101
Book Resources:
Fasting by Scott McKnight
God’s Chosen Fast by Arthur Wallace
Podcast Resources:
Exploring My Strange Bible | Practicing Faith Part 2: Feasting & Fasting
Bridgetown Church
Fasting: Our Relationship to Food, Body, and Image
Part 1: To Starve the Flesh and Feed the Spirit
Our Spiritual Formation Pastors Angela Ekstrum, Blake Zimmerman, and Casey Shirley deep dive into the spiritual practice of fasting. They are candid about their own experiences with fasting and look deeper at the history of the practice, specifically in the modern American church. When we fast, we remove the things we find comfort in and replace them with the things we’re intended to find comfort in. We are forced to answer the question, “Can God really satisfy me?” It’s not about behavior modification, but a heart shift. Don’t miss this important conversation!
Show Notes
Book Resources:
The Power of Habit by Charles Duhigg
Fasting by Scott McKnight
God’s Chosen Fast by Arthur Wallace
Podcast Resources:
Exploring My Strange Bible | Practicing Faith Part 2: Feasting & Fasting
Bridgetown Church
Fasting: Our Relationship to Food, Body, and Image
Part 1: To Starve the Flesh and Feed the Spirit
This season is all about examining and responding to the faithfulness of God. Jamie and Heather are focused on being responsive to God’s direction and being faithful in every area of their lives. In part one, Jamie shared how her honesty and vulnerability paved the way for greater authenticity and intimacy in her marriage. Jamie’s confession allowed Heather to reflect on how much her own marriage has benefitted from increased vulnerability. In part one of this episode, we asked the question, “How do we know God is faithful?” This week, we explore how we can respond to His faithfulness by submitting our whole selves to Him (flaws & all). Check it out! Shownotes:
In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about Blake's message from the Daughters Conference. You can listen to that message here: https://youtu.be/OPGid2xhsm8
COTMU is designed to equip followers of Jesus to take their discipleship journey to the next level. Learn more: https://cotmu.churchonthemove.com/
Looking for community? Check out our Daughters Ministry! https://churchonthemove.com/daughters
In this episode, Heather and Jamie unpack all that God did through the Daughters Women’s conference. As they are focused on faithfulness in every season, God revealed his faithfulness in the way He orchestrated the conference and spoke a specific word to both Jamie and Heather. God has been doing some incredible things in and through them as they surrender every aspect of their life to Him. In fact, He’s doing so much that we had to split this episode into two.We hope you’ll enjoy part one.
Shownotes:
In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about Blake's message from the Daughters Conference. You can listen to that message here: https://youtu.be/OPGid2xhsm8
They also mention COTMU. COTMU is designed to equip followers of Jesus to take their discipleship journey to the next level. Learn more: https://cotmu.churchonthemove.com/
Being healthy spiritually, physically, and mentally doesn’t just happen by accident. It takes intentionality in every aspect of life. But sometimes we get so comfortable in unhealth and dysfunction, we don’t even realize that what has become normal to us is not in fact normal. It takes a lot of internal work but also a lot of help from those we trust to help us see the things we’ve become blind to. So, how do we redefine what’s normal? Let’s talk about it! What are you doing that brings you joy in this season? We want to hear from you! Text Life in Motion to 23101 and follow the prompts.
It can be harder than we realize to truly walk in freedom, to let go of the safety nets we’ve built around ourselves and our emotions.
There is so much fear attached because our normal reactions and coping mechanisms are how we self-protect. Last season, Heather and Jamie were on a journey of identifying their unhealthy patterns, and now they are getting the chance to change those patterns and walk in freedom in their daily lives, not only for their sake, but for the sake of those they’re closest to.
Want to go deeper in your spiritual walk?
Check out https://cotmu.churchonthemove.com/
Last season, Heather and Jamie devoted themselves to doing the hard, internal work: exploring how to be their healthiest physically, emotionally, and spiritually. They felt like they had made a lot of progress. But as they’re stepping into this new season, it’s becoming obvious that getting internal work to translate externally is a challenge, leaving them to wonder, “Am I really changing at all?” Shownotes:
In this episode, Jamie mentions the book Invitation to Solitude and Silence
Welcome to Day 21 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:39-40
These were all commended for their faith, yet none of them received what had been promised,since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.
Welcome to Day 20 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:35-38
Women received back their dead, raised to life again.There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection. Some faced jeers and flogging, and even chains and imprisonment. They were put to death by stoning; they were sawed in two; they were killed by the sword. They went about in sheepskins and goatskins,destitute, persecuted and mistreated—the world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts and mountains, living in caves and in holes in the ground.
Welcome to Day 19 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:32-34
And what more shall I say? I do not have time to tell about Gideon, Barak, Samson and Jephthah, about Davidand Samuel and the prophets,who through faith conquered kingdoms, administered justice, and gained what was promised; who shut the mouths of lions, quenched the fury of the flames, and escaped the edge of the sword; whose weakness was turned to strength; and who became powerful in battle and routed foreign armies.
Welcome to Day 18 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:30-31
By faith the walls of Jericho fell, after the army had marched around them for seven days. By faith the prostitute Rahab, because she welcomed the spies, was not killed with those who were disobedient.
Welcome to Day 17 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God. Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:29
By faith the people passed through the Red Sea as on dry land; but when the Egyptians tried to do so, they were drowned.
Welcome to Day 16 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:28
By faith he kept the Passover and the application of blood, so that the destroyer of the firstborn would not touch the firstborn of Israel.
Welcome to Day 15 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:27
By faith he left Egypt, not fearing the king’s anger; he persevered because he saw him who is invisible.
Welcome to Day 14 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:24-26
By faith Moses, when he had grown up, refused to be known as the son of Pharaoh’s daughter.He chose to be mistreated along with the people of God rather than to enjoy the fleeting pleasures of sin. He regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward.
Welcome to Day 13 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:23
By faith Moses’ parents hid him for three months after he was born, because they saw he was no ordinary child, and they were not afraid of the king’s edict.
Welcome to Day 12 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:20-22
By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau in regard to their future. By faith Jacob, when he was dying, blessed each of Joseph’s sons, and worshiped as he leaned on the top of his staff. By faith Joseph, when his end was near, spoke about the exodus of the Israelites from Egypt and gave instructions concerning the burial of his bones.
Welcome to Day 11 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:17-19
By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice. He who had embraced the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son, even though God had said to him, “It is through Isaac that your offspring will be reckoned.” Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death.
Welcome to Day 10 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:14-16
People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.
So often we approach our relationships, and particularly our marriages, with two different rule books. So how do we get on the same page and the same team?
In this episode of Life In Motion, Heather and Jamie sit down with their husbands, Whit and Brian, to talk about how they survive conflict in marriage (and heated game nights).
Welcome to Day 9 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:12-13
And so from this one man, and he as good as dead, came descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and as countless as the sand on the seashore. All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth.
Welcome to Day 8 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:11
And by faith even Sarah, who was past childbearing age, was enabled to bear children because she considered him faithful who had made the promise.
Welcome to Day 7 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:9-10
By faith he went to live in the land of promise, as in a foreign land, living in tents with Isaac and Jacob, heirs with him of the same promise. For he was looking forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God.
Welcome to Day 6 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:8
By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to a place that he was to receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going.
Welcome to Day 5 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:7
By faith Noah, being warned by God concerning events as yet unseen, in reverent fear constructed an ark for the saving of his household. By this he condemned the world and became an heir of the righteousness that comes by faith.
Welcome to Day 4 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:5-6
By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death, and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was commended as having pleased God. And without faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.
Welcome to Day 3 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:4
By faith Abel offered to God a more acceptable sacrifice than Cain, through which he was commended as righteous, God commending him by accepting his gifts. And through his faith, though he died, he still speaks.
Welcome to Day 2 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:3
By faith we understand that the universe was created by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things that are visible.
Welcome to Day 1 of 21 Days of Prayer! Throughout these 21 days, we'll be looking at Hebrews 11 and asking the question: What does it look like to faithfully follow Jesus? Join us on the journey as we dedicate just 10 minutes a day, for 21 days, to seek and spend time with God.
Today's Scripture:
Hebrews 11:1-2
Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. For by it the people of old received their commendation.
How do we nurture our spiritual health along with our mental and emotional health? A lot of times in our pursuit of mental and emotional health we neglect our spiritual being. Why? Because that’s what culture tells us to do. There are tons of books, podcasts, and blogs on how to be a better person, and those things aren’t bad, but if they’re not making you a better follower of Jesus they’re not helping your whole being.
You are a physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual being.
Just like everything that plays out in our life has a physical, emotional, and mental effect, everything that happens in our lives also has a spiritual side to it. The conflict, the bad attitude, the hurt feelings, there is a spiritual side that affects the furthering of the Gospel in you and in your community.
Show notes:
Read the blog along with this episode.
Watch this message on Depression & Anxiety.
Have you ever felt really bottled up? Like you're holding on to a lot and you just don't know how to let it go? Maybe some old feelings of hurt keep popping back up. That's how Heather has been feeling but this week she did something about it. In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about releasing your emotional blockages and feeling emotionally, spiritually, and mentally whole.
Show notes:
"I've been harboring some resentment" - https://youtu.be/77S5UhQn6HY
Find more from In Motion on churchonthemove.com/inmotion.
What was your family culture like growing up? Not sure? Well, have you ever noticed yourself responding to something precisely the way one of your parents/guardians would have? It's totally normal but can also be a little startling. Whether you had amazing or not-so-great parents/guardians, how they acted and viewed the world shaped how you act and view the world now. In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about how Heather and her dad respond to conflict and how to pass positive traits to their kids. Check it out!
Share your change! Heather and Jamie would love to hear what step toward change you're going to make! Send them a message by texting LIFE IN MOTION to 23101 and following the prompts.
Show notes: In this episode, Heather and Jamie recommend three resources for understanding yourself better.
Living Centered's podcast, "Living Centered and Exploring Internal Family Systems Work"
Dr. Caroline Leaf's book, "Cleaning Up Your Mental Mess"
Dr. Nicole LePera's book, "How to Do the Work"
Christian worship is about finding out who God is and loving Him the way He wants to be loved. But we often see people turn that on its head and make loving God all about them, not Him. Let's talk about it!
In this bonus episode of Spirit In Motion, Whit and Adam invite Founder & President of TheosU & TheosSeminary, teacher, and author, Nathan Finochio to talk about theology, church, and culture.
Questions?
Have a follow-up question about this episode or want us to talk a little more about a topic? Text SPIRIT IN MOTION to 23101 and follow the prompts to send us your questions.
How bad do you want to be healthy? We often avoid getting healthy emotionally, physically, and spiritually because of the work it takes. We’ll make any excuse, “It’ll take too much time, it’s too expensive, I’m not really hurting that much.“ Here’s the deal: We make time and financial allowance for things that we care about. We sure hope you care about yourself.
In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about Heather making a counseling appointment, putting in the work to get healthy, and different ways to afford help.
Show Notes:
You can take the Enneagram test Heather and Jamie mention in this episode of Life In Motion, here.
If you want to share the step your taking after listening to this episode, you can text Heather and Jamie by texting "LIFE IN MOTION" to 23101 ad following the prompts.
Tulsa area counseling recommendations:
Cornerstone Christian Counseling
Hope Forward Counseling & Coaching
Joy Christian Counseling
COPES
What is spiritual warfare, really? It's far more ordinary than you might think. When you repent and apologize, commit to repairing your relationships, when you work against the conflict and tensions that divide you from the people in your life—that's spiritual warfare.
Take a step.
- Listen to Blake’s message: Build the community, not a resistance - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbH3z8rj8vQ
- Identify where you need to: repentant, apologize, schedule a coffee meeting, or remove a discontentment
- Share what you identified with Heather and Jamie by texting “LIFE IN MOTION” to 23101
In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about spiritual warfare as the act of resolving conflict in your life. Check it out!
Habits often dictate our desires. But for some reason, we wait around for our desires to dictate our habits. How many times have you said, "I don't feel like going to the gym," "I don't feel like praying, or reading my Bible, or going to church," or "I don't FEEL LIKE doing much of anything"? In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about getting out of our feelings and starting habits that dictate our desires.
Share with us!
Life is better in community, we want to hear what habit you're going to start this week. Text "LIFE IN MOTION" to 23101 and let us know.
Usually to get real with God you have to first get real with yourself and the people around you. This week, Heather and Jamie both talk about how this has played out in their lives recently and how uncomfortable it can be. Despite the discomfort, they found that it brought another level of freedom and progress in their journey with themselves and their loved ones.
In this episode, Jamie gives an update on how her relationship with her son has been and she talks about how this process hasn’t looked like what she thought it would be. Heather dives into how her internal dialogue has been affecting her ability to love her family well and how she’s taking steps to work through that.
Conflict is inevitable. If you're experiencing conflict right now, that's NORMAL. Hopefully, that gives you some peace. In fact, we like to say that conflict isn't bad but the way we navigate it can be bad. So, how should you navigate conflict? There are definitely some really unhealthy ways to walk through conflict but did you know there is a Biblical way to navigate it.
In this episode, Whit and Adam talk about 3 questions around conflict. Check it out!
Show Notes:
Pete Scazzero's Ladder of Integrity
Taylor Swift ft.Bon Iver - Exile (Audio) - YouTube
What would it take for you to release the resentment you've been carrying? Whether big or small, the emotions you refuse to feel, the ones you avoid, affect your whole life.
In this episode, Jamie and Heather explore ways to better name their emotions and release resentment. Check it out.
What would it take for you to be willing to share who you really are? To share all that you think and feel with the people in your life. Would you have a fear of judgment or a fear of consequences for telling the truth? Let’s talk about it.
You’re invited to come along with Heather and Jamie as they look at their lives, and allow God to really, truly mold them into the image of God.
- Enneagram Test (*Make sure to follow the instructions)
- Heather’s Instagram
- Jamie’s Instagram
- Church on the Move’s Instagram
You can’t read through scripture without seeing the work of the Holy Spirit in it. From Genesis 1, as He’s hovering over the waters to Acts where He’s the power behind every move and work of the first church, the Holy Spirit is all over scripture. So, how come He’s so misunderstood? If you look at all the different churches, you’ll likely see tons of different ideas of the Holy Spirit. So, which one is right? And what does it mean for me?
In this episode, Whit and Adam explore scripture and church history to find out who the Holy Spirit is and what His presence in our life means. Check it out.
Want to learn more? Here are some resources on the Holy Spirit:
- Video: A teaching on the Holy Spirit from Whit George
- Video: Holy Spirit by the Bible Project
- Bible Study: Holy Spirit by the Bible Project
Do you ever feel like you've not quite arrived at what your life is supposed to be? Maybe you're a little tired of feeling like you're behind and now you feel like you've wasted your life. Or at least the time you've had so far. Or how about going through life feeling like your relationships are all in order, feeling genuinely happy? Then, BOOM, conflict.
You might not have guessed it, but that's exactly where Heather and Jamie are at in life. Summer 2021 opened their eyes to areas of disappointment, striving, and tension and they want to change them. So, they've both decided to do something about it. They've both made appointments with doctors, therapists, and life coaches with the goal of becoming better versions of themselves.
You're invited to grow in this season with them. Every week, they'll sit down in the podcast studio and share with each other (and us) what they're learning and invite us to grow with them, to look at our lives, and let them be really, truly molded into the image of God.
We invite you to begin a journey of Jesus transformation with Jamie and Heather.
In this episode, Whit and Adam sit down with their friend, Isaac Witty, to hear his story of leaving the church, journeying away from God, and the miraculous way God found Him again.
Isaac has been a stand-up comedian for 20+ years and has been on A Prairie Home Companion, NPR, David Letterman, Conan O'Brien, and opened for Jim Gaffigan and Amy Schumer. He grew up in church with his family, but something happened in his 20's. While following his career dreams, Isaac quickly completed his task of leaving God behind.
In today's culture there's a growing trend towards being untethered and free from constraints - minimalism helps us to be free from the burden of stuff, tiny homes allow us to be free from being tied down, freelancing gives us the freedom to work how we want and when we want. We don't want anyone to tell us what we should do. Why can't we just do what we want? But what if there's something to putting down roots, trusting the authority God has placed over you, and staying committed even when things are hard? Take a listen as Whit and Adam dive into these ideas!
Cancel culture seems like it’s a brand new social construct, but actually, we see the same roots of cancel culture in scripture. We all want to be on the right side of history, we all want justice, but the tension between justice and mercy is not easily navigated. So how do you live righteously in an age of moral outrage?
In this episode, Adam and Whit discuss cancel culture. Check it out.
We know we can’t be the only ones who wake up at 3 AM wondering, “AM I WASTING MY LIFE?”
Internet influencers, 30 under 30s, and a to-do list/goal-focused culture put constant pressure on you to be more successful at a younger age than the generation before you. As a result, the pressure convinces you that nothing is worth doing unless it’s wildly successful. Your purpose becomes "success," and it’s exhausting. It's also not that great of a purpose either.
In this episode, Adam and Whit discuss the feeling of wasting your life and what your real purpose may be. Check it out.
Looking for more episodes on purpose? Check out:
Identity and the Lie of “Follow your dreams.” https://youtu.be/aA4qH8jK5G4
Resources for Discovering Purpose:
Every Good Endeavor by Tim Keller
Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Peter Scazzero
Your OneDegree
Myer’s Briggs
Enneagram
Do you have questions about setting boundaries with your in-laws or dealing with an ex? We always wrap up our Life In Motion seasons with a Q&A episode, and we're addressing some of those questions today!
Here are the four questions we're looking at:
- Can you still be best friends with an ex?
- How do you deal with a neglectful in-law who now wants a relationship with your newborn?
- What's the benefit of a mentoring relationship, and how do I start one?
- My wife is about to have a baby; what boundaries should we set with our family?
Season Two Recap
This season, Heather and Jamie put together 11 episodes focused on making and managing friendships/relationships. It's been an awesome season and we can't wait for season 3.
Our Episodes:
- HELP! I don’t have any friends
- Why is it so hard to make friends?
- I’ve got trust issues
- Toxic people and how to deal
- Staying friends even when you disagree
- Boundaries don’t have to suck
- Breaking Up—Handling the end of a relationship
- Can men and women be "just friends"
- Why asking for help is so hard
- Shame: Why asking for help is so hard pt. 2
- Q&A - Setting boundaries with in-laws, dealing with exes, and more
Listen to all of Season Two on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or watch our episodes on YouTube.
We're following up on last week's topic "Why asking for help is so hard" and diving deeper into shame.
"Shame is an 'intensely painful feeling or experience of believing that we are flawed and therefore unworthy of love and belonging.” — Brené Brown
At work, at home, or in everyday life you might be experiencing shame that is holding you back from being vulnerable with those closest to you. In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about overcoming shame and absorbing someone's pain. Check it out!
Find more from In Motion on churchonthemove.com/inmotion.
Everyone has had fleeting thoughts and questions about their faith, so what do you do with them? Maybe doubt wasn't welcomed in your church or family growing up. Often, that's because a lot of followers of Jesus only have one category for doubt... doubt = bad. When you lump all doubt together, you end up thinking that Jesus doesn't want your questions but that couldn't be further from the truth. In this episode, Whit George and Adam Bush discuss three categories of people and use them as a roadmap for what to do with our doubts.
Life In Motion: Why asking for help is so hard
Okay, asking for help is hard but aren't friends supposed to be comfortable being honest about how things are really going? It seems like we should be able to rely on our friends but more often than not people are uncomfortable asking for help.
What's the deal with no one asking for help when they need it?
In this episode, Heather and Jamie talk about the humiliation, embarrassment, and fear that has held them back from asking for help in the past and how to get better at putting themselves out there.
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Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. Text “LIFE IN MOTION” to 23101 or leave us a voicemail at 1-539-215-9432 to share your question.
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Life In Motion: Can men and women be just friends?
Can married men and women be "just friends"? With the Billy Graham rule being now two generations old, is it time to adapt the way we approach relationships with the opposite gender? Let's talk about it.
In this episode, Jamie and Heather discuss some of the red flags of being just friends as well as ways to manage relationships with the opposite gender in the workplace. Check it out!
Find a mediator for your conversations.For one reason or another, having open, honest conversations with your spouse can be difficult. If you have concerns around the outcome of an honest converstion, we highly encourage taking the conversation to a counselor's office. Sitting down with a mediator is an incredibly beneficial step for any relationship. If you live in the Tulsa area, here are some local counselors we trust: https://churchonthemove.com/resource/crisis-help/.
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Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. Text "LIFE IN MOTION" to 23101 or leave us a voicemail at 1-539-215-9432 to share your question.
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Have you ever wondered how far is too far? Like, where does God draw the line on sin? You probably desire to do good, but isn't it hard to understand what good is? There seem to be more and more gray areas, so how do you know if it's okay to take a hit, smoke, drink, or cuss?
In this episode, Whit and Adam talk about the areas in the Bible that can sometimes seem a little gray.
Find more from Spirit In Motion on churchonthemove.com/inmotion.
Life In Motion: Breaking Up - How to Handle the End of a Relationship
Romantic relationship or not, breaking up is hard. From kids growing up to friends moving away, there are necessary endings in your life that, if ungrieved, can really hurt you. So how do you handle the end of a relationship? Let's talk about it.
In this episode, Jamie and Heather discuss some of the difficult endings in their lives and how they learned to handle them.
Resources:
- Necessary Endings
- Emotionally Healthy Relationships
- Emotionally Healthy Podcasts
- Ladder of Integrity
Ask us a question. Text, "LIFE IN MOTION," to 23101 and follow the prompts.
Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. Text "LIFE IN MOTION" to 23101 or leave us a voicemail at 1-539-215-9432 to share your question.
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Shift your thinking on boundaries! What if you viewed a boundary as an invitation for a deeper, healthier relationship. Instead of a consequence, a rejection, or a termination of a relationship. Your goal for setting a boundary should be to help the relationship thrive.
You might be surprised but Heather George loves boundaries. They're one of her personal values. In this episode, Heather shares her love for boundaries with Jamie Jobe and flips the script on the old way of thinking about boundaries. Check it out!
Resources:
- Boundaries: When to Say Yes, How to Say No to Take Control of Your Life
- Emotionally Healthy Relationships
- Emotionally Healthy Podcasts
- Ladder of Integrity
Ask us a question. Text "LIFE IN MOTION" to 23101 and follow the prompts.
Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!
Read more from Life In Motion.
How do you establish who you are apart from your parents? What if your family and friends disagree with your beliefs, values, or goals, can you still stay close? What about making friends—can you be friends with someone who has differing political views, a different lifestyle, or different beliefs than you?
We think you can, and in this episode, Heather and Jamie explore how.
Resources:
Ladder of Integrity
Emotionally Healthy Relationships
Pete Scazzero's Podcast
Heather’s Host Moment
Lincoln Christian School Track Article
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Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!
In this episode of Life In Motion, Heather and Jamie talk about confronting toxicity in you and in others. We're all broken people. Unfortunately, if that brokenness goes unaddressed it will affect not just you, but also the people around you. So, let's talk about it.
Read more: churchonthemove.com/inmotion
Confronting Toxicity in You:
Cornerstone Christian Counseling
Hope Forward Counseling & Coaching
Joy Christian Counseling
COPES
Considering going to a counselor? Read Counseling: What to Expect and When to Go
Confronting Toxicity in Others:
In this episode, we are addressing nonviolent and non-psychologically damaging toxicity. If you’re in a dangerous or abusive situation, you need to get safe first and foremost. Please use the resources below for help.
DVIS – Domestic Violence Intervention Services, Inc.
Family Safety Center
Oklahoma Safeline
How do we love like we’ve never been hurt? In this episode of Life In Motion, Heather and Jamie share their current and past struggles with trust issues and what they're doing about them.
Additional resources:
- Pete Scazzero podcast
- Have trust issues with the church? Read more.
Domestic Violence Crisis Lines
In this episode, we address nonviolent and non-psychologically damaging trust issues. If you're in a dangerous or abusive situation, you need to get safe first and foremost. Please use the resources below for help.
DVIS – Domestic Violence Intervention Services, Inc.
Family Safety Center
Oklahoma Safeline
Find more from Life In Motion on churchonthemove.com/inmotion.
Making friends isn't always easy. Listen to Heather and Jamie discuss social anxiety and being known in this episode of Life in Motion.
Why is making friends so hard? Like, don’t we all just want to be known? The desire to be seen, understood, and heard is hardwired in all of us. So why do we cringe at the idea of putting ourselves out there? Let's talk about it.
In this episode, Heather and Jamie lay out 3 challenges for people who are wanting to make friends:
- Show up: Commit to showing up to the places you’re invited to or stay committed to the class you’re taking.
- Journal: Take some time to reflect on what is causing you to feel negatively about putting yourself out there.
- Practice: Saying “hello” to someone or making eye contact with the people around you.
Resources:
- Disappointment — Message by Ethan Vanse
- Friendship Coach Article
Read more from In Motion.
The best types of friendships take time. Listen to Heather and Jamie discuss managing their friendship in this episode of Life in Motion.
We’re not sure what it was but something about the last year made most people feel really lonely sarcasm. We absolutely know what it was—staying at home 24/7. It was hard on just about everyone in every area of life, but most specifically, in the relationship arena.
If you’re new to Life In Motion, here’s what you should know: this is a podcast where best friends, Heather George and Jamie Jobe, talk about life—the ups, the downs, and everything in between, even the things we're not supposed to talk about. This season, we’re dialing in on making, managing, and molding close, personal friendships.
Resources: In this episode, Jamie mentions Pete and Gerri Scazzero's Emotionally Healthy books. Check them out here.
Read more from In Motion.
We've had an incredible 12 episode first season of Life In Motion. If you didn't know, season one was called "We've Got Issues". We've looked at anxiety, depression, overspending, grief, and so much more, and it's been an awesome, awesome season. We've heard from so many of you about how Jamie and Heather's stories have made you feel seen, appreciated, and valued. We've also heard that it's time for another Q&A.
During each of our episodes, we say, “LEAVE US A MESSAGE!” And you did! In this final episode of Life In Motion season one, Jamie and Heather listen to your messages and talk about them! It's a good old Q&A episode.
They talk about depression medication, loving the LGBTQ community, setting boundaries, and making friends!
Heather and Jamie recommend some books for anyone who wants to love the LGBTQ community better.
Here’s info for those books:
• The Secret Thoughts of an Unlikely Convert - Rosaria Butterfield
• Gay Girl, Good God - Jackie Hill Perry
We hope you've enjoyed this first season of Life In Motion. If you haven't already, take a minute to subscribe to our emails so you don't miss news about our next season! Subscribe here: www.churchonthemove.com/inmotion
For the last episode of season one, Whit and Adam explore church hurt and what to do about it. If you've been on TikTok or Instagram lately, you've likely seen countless videos, meme accounts, and stories about church hurt.
We've been looking at "true lies" throughout season one of Spirit In Motion, and the lie with church hurt is that it will never happen. If there are people involved, there will likely be unmet expectations, disappointments, or hurt. The freedom and beauty of relationships with people is learning to navigate issues and grow together.
Check out more from In Motion on churchonthemove.com/inmotion.
In this episode of Life In Motion, Heather George and Jamie Jobe talk about what to expect and when to go to counseling. They even talk about helping their children go to counseling and allowing them to confide in someone other than a parent.
Tulsa area counseling recommendations:
Cornerstone Christian Counseling
Hope Forward Counseling & Coaching
Joy Christian Counseling
COPES
Suicide Hotline
Read more from Life In Motion.
Leave us a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432
Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!
You've probably heard someone say, "Your past does not define you," which is kind of true. It doesn't define, but it does affect you. In this season of Spirit In Motion, we're looking at "true lies." True lies are things that we say that have a hint of truth but ultimately have been misunderstood.
In this episode of Spirit In Motion, Church on the Move Lead Pastor Whit George and Kids Pastor Adam Bush discuss the lies around dealing with your past and the statement, "Your past does not define you."
The true lie with "your past does not define you" is that your past doesn't affect you. That there's no need to look at the past pain or mistakes because they no longer define you. We agree that your past does not define you, but it is affecting you.
If you're in the Tulsa area, here is a list of Christian counselors we recommend. If you're not in the Tulsa area, we encourage you to search out a Christian counselor that can help you walk toward freedom.
If you are struggling with depression that is holding you back from everyday life or seasonal depression that creeps up every now and then, we encourage you to talk to someone about how you’re feeling. Here are few resources to help get you started:
Counseling Services
COPES
Suicide Hotline
In this episode, Jamie Jobe, opens up and brings to light her story with major depressive disorder. She shares a message from Chris Hodges that helped her. Here is a link to that message: https://youtu.be/OWMZFSlo6Ps
Leave us a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432.
Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!
We're not trying to be anti-inspirational this week, but ... "you should follow your dreams" is a lie... What do we mean by that? Well, the problem with statements like "Follow your dreams," "BE YOUR OWN HERO," "You be you," is that they're crushing us. They put unhealthy pressure on us to figure out who we are, be a unique person, choose the right career path, and make choices that will lead to LIVING OUR BEST LIFE.
In this episode of Spirit In Motion, Church on the Move Lead Pastor Whit George and Kids Pastor Adam Bush explore the topic of IDENTITY and the statement, "You should follow your dreams." We like to call a statement like that a true lie. There's a hint of truth to it, but ultimately the idea has resulted in a misunderstood, broken concept… a true lie.
Learn more on churchonthemove.com/inmotion
Life In Motion | Lost Dreams: How to recognize, embrace, and grieve them well.
Have you unknowingly set your dreams aside? Have you lost a dream, a hope, or an aspiration? In this episode of Life in Motion, Heather and Jamie discuss the loss of dreams; recognizing and coping with them and how to properly grieve them.
Leave us a voicemail 1-539-215-9432!
Heather and Jamie are committed to helping you and meeting you where you are. No question or comment is off-limits, so call in to leave a voicemail if you want to chat with us!
With: Reimagining the Way You Relate to God
Learn more on churchonthemove.com/inmotion.
Where do you draw the line sexually? In this episode of Spirit In Motion, Church on the Move Lead Pastor Whit George and Kids Pastor Adam Bush, explore the statement, “Porn is a victimless crime.”
We like to call a statement like that a true lie. There’s a hint of truth to it, but ultimately the idea has resulted in a misunderstood, broken concept … a true lie.
If you’re struggling with a porn addiction, text “OVER IT” to 23101 for a pastor from Whit and Adam's church to connect with you. They’ll help you get connected to a community of people facing this challenge together.
In this episode, Whit and Adam talk about when Whit shared his story at their church, Church on the Move. You can hear his story here: Intimacy over Pornography.
Life In Motion: Q&A
Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and answer your questions—this is one of those episodes.
In this episode, Heather and Jamie listen to voicemails from you, and respond to your thoughts. They answer questions about the best time for kids to start dating and what to do when your spouse has a pornography addiction.
Questions? Leave us a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432.
Have a question you want explored on Life In Motion? Or what to share your thoughts on a specific topic? We'd love to hear from you! Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and answer your questions. Use the number above to leave Heather and Jamie a voicemail—your question might just be on our next Q&A episode.
In this episode, Heather talks about her husband's past struggle with porn. Listen to his story here: https://youtu.be/kU4NNjSwd-g?t=1957
With the rise of online gatherings, there's no doubt you've heard someone say, "The church is not a building." But if the church isn't a building, then what is it? We live in a time with access to more churches, sermons, resources than ever before, so the question is, "Why church?" Why would someone physically go to a church building in 2021?
In this episode of Spirit In Motion, Church on the Move Lead Pastor Whit George and Kids Pastor Adam Bush, explore the statement "the church is not a building." We like to call a statement like that a true lie. There's a hint of truth to it, but ultimately the idea has resulted in a misunderstood, broken concept… a true lie.
Hear more from In Motion on churchonthemove.com/inmotion.
What do you do with grief? That's what Heather and Jamie are talking about in this episode. For some, grief is immediate, fully intense. For others, you feel like your drifting through life, not fully anchored to anything. Whichever side you're on, grief is not necessarily something that you experience, and then it's gone; it's something that you experience, you heal from, and you carry the scars forever. And sometimes, it creeps back up.
So, what do you do with grief? What do when you don't believe that God is good anymore? When you're angry? How do you heal when you're drifting? In this episode, Heather and Jamie discuss how they experienced grief, questioned God, and began to heal.
Leave us a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432.
Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you'll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that's where they hear from you!
Read more from Life In Motion: churchonthemove.com/inmotion.
Today, we’re looking at the idea that, “Christians should be ready to defend their beliefs.” We like to call a statement like that a true lie. There’s a hint of truth to it, but ultimately the idea has resulted in a misunderstood, broken concept … a true lie.
It’s unfortunate, but it’s tough to have honest and open conversations with people these days. In this episode, Whit George and Adam Bush explore how to have conversations with people… even the people you may disagree with.
Learn more about In Motion on churchonthemove.com/inmotion.
When we look at Jesus’ life, we see Him slowed down and ready to embrace the people He encounters each day. Being hurried is incompatible with a real relationship with Jesus. To call yourself a follower of Christ, you have to surrender the “busyness” badge of honor and follow His life model.
When we run on fumes, we miss the people right in front of us—our family, our friends, our spouses. Join Heather and Jamie as they have a conversation about schedules, feeling hurried, and wearing the “busyness” badge of honor.
Leave us a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432. Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!
Resources: Watch REST over HURRY from Church on the Move here: https://youtu.be/Oryn2R3ABGg?t=2371
See more from In Motion here: https://churchonthemove.com/inmotion
In this week’s episode, Whit George and Adam Bush discuss the questions, “What’s the point of pain?” “Why do bad things happen to good people?” We’re looking at the idea that “if you follow Jesus, everything will be easy.” We like to call a statement like that a true lie. Because there’s a hint of truth to it, but ultimately the idea has resulted in a misunderstood, broken concept … a true lie.
In this episode, Whit and Adam talk about what to do when you don’t know that everything will be alright. When you doubt that God is really good because what’s happening to you is really bad.
Learn more about Spirit In Motion: churchonthemove.com/inmotion
This is Part Two of a two-part episode on pornography where Heather George and Jamie Jobe discuss how pornography is impacting our children, families, and communities and what to do about it. Leave us a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432
Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!
Trusted Resources:
- Learn the brain science behind porn use and how you can quit for good: https://learn.covenanteyes.com/porn-circuit/
- Watch from Church on the Move: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU4NNjSwd-g
Looking for support? Work with one of our trusted counseling partners:
- Cornerstone Christian Counseling: https://cornerstoneoftulsa.com
- Hope Forward Counseling & Coaching: https://www.hopeforward.com
- Joy Christian Counseling: https://www.joychristiancounseling.com
If you’re in the Tulsa area, text "OVER IT" to 23101 for a pastor to connect with you. They'll help you get connected to a community of people facing this challenge together.
In this week’s episode, Heather George and Jamie Jobe discuss how pornography is impacting our children, families, and communities and what to do about it. Join them as they have a real conversation about their personal experiences and loving ways to support friends and family when it comes to quitting porn.
Leave us a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432
Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!
Trusted Resources:
• Learn the brain science behind porn use and how you can quit for good: https://learn.covenanteyes.com/porn-c...
• Watch from Church on the Move: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU4NN...
Looking for support? Work with one of our trusted counseling partners:
• Cornerstone Christian Counseling: https://cornerstoneoftulsa.com
• Hope Forward Counseling & Coaching: https://www.hopeforward.com
• Joy Christian Counseling: https://www.joychristiancounseling.com
If you’re in the Tulsa area, text "OVER IT" to 23101 for a pastor to connect with you. They'll help you get connected to a community of people facing this challenge together.
Spirit In Motion: Have You Met The Real Jesus?
Whit George, lead pastor of Church On The Move, and Adam Bush, kids pastor at Church On The Move, sat down for an honest and in-depth conversation about letting God change them ... maybe for the first time. They call it, "meeting the real Jesus."
Listening for the first time? Make sure to subscribe! We upload new episodes every Thursday.
Learn more about Spirit In Motion https://churchonthemove.com/inmotion.
With Venmo, Apple Pay, PayPal, Amazon, and buy online/pick up in store, it’s never been easier to spend, to buy, to find satisfaction in something other than God. You probably find yourself buying things or even just filling an online basket when you’re angry or bored or frustrated or feeling less than. Maybe you’re used to spending a lot of time on social media but all the negativity has had you stop scrolling Facebook and start scrolling through Amazon.
You’re probably thinking … “not me, this is for someone else” but those three identical shirts in your closet say otherwise.
Learn more from Church on the Move’s teaching, Contentment OVER Materialism:https://youtu.be/ocpzYzN9Xrc?t=1729
LEAVE US A VOICEMAIL: 1-539-215-9432.
Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!
Challenge: When you feel anxious, stop and ask yourself, “Why?”
BE HONEST WITH SOMEONE ABOUT HOW YOU’RE FEELING… If you are struggling with anxiety that is holding you back from everyday life or anxiety that creeps up every now and then, we encourage you to talk to someone about how you’re feeling.
Here are few resources to help get you started:
- Church on the Move Small Groups
- Counseling Services
- COPES
- Suicide Hotline
LEAVE US A VOICEMAIL 1-539-215-9432. Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and JJ mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!
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Life in Motion is a podcast hosted by Heather George and Jamie Jobe (JJ). It’s a show where two best friends talk about life, family, and the hard things we all go through. We’re calling this first season, “We’ve got issues.” In this episode, Heather and Jamie share their stories and talk about marriage, regret, fighting, sexual abuse, miscarriages, counseling, antidepressants, and going to a psychiatrist.
Heather and JJ share some of their most significant life events right here on Episode One of Life In Motion.
Why? Because If we’re really honest, everyone has got some issues. So Heather and JJ decided as they launch season one, episode one of this podcast, they should invite people to look behind the curtain. They’re going to willingly share some of their personal issues to let you know that it’s okay for you not to be perfect.
NEW EPISODES
We upload a new podcasts from Heather & JJ every Tuesday. Stay tuned for next week's episode on ANXIETY.
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“If we want to walk in freedom and fullness, then we have to talk about these things, and we are inviting you, our listeners, to talk about it with us.” — Jamie Jobe
To have your comment or share a question on the show, leave Heather and JJ a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432.
Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and JJ mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!