In this episode Christian and Jonny talk about the rise and fall of celebrity pastors and modern masculinity. Chat 1: https://spectator.us/sad-irony-celebrity-pastors-carl-lentz-hillsong/ (Sad Irony of Celebrity Pastors) Chat 2: https://unherd.com/2020/12/just-how-toxic-is-the-masculine-mystique/ (Just How Toxic is the Masculine Mystique) Hosts: Jonny Morrison https://my.captivate.fm/jonnyis.com (jonnyis.com) Christian Serge https://my.captivate.fm/christianserge.com (christianserge.com)