Canada Border Services Agency can detain migrants and asylum seekers crossing into Canada in provincial jails for an indefinite period. But now, Manitoba has become the fourth province to say it will stop the practice. Matt Galloway talks to Sara Maria Gomez Lopez, who was detained in a maximum security facility for three months when she sought asylum in Canada in 2012; and Lloyd Axworthy, chair of the World Refugee & Migration Council and the former foreign affairs minister.