John changes his mind about lunchmeat and gets kicked out of a football game. Meanwhile, Jonnie turns the tables on a police officer, and tells the tale of the “Human Fish.”

Plus, a conversation about self-esteem and the balance between knowing our value vs. over-inflating it.

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