The Vice Lounge Online: Recent Episodes
Jason Gillikin and Tony Snyder
In this special and glorious return to our normal podcasting schedule (because something has to return to normal in this clusterfrack of a year), Jason offers some updates plus the "new normal" for VLO before enjoying an aged Liga Privada No. 9 cigar and a bottle of Founders Porter. We wrap up with a brief recap of the June visit (with Tony!) to a local tribal casino on the first day it opened post-lockdown. You can't miss this extravaganza of vicey goodness!
Time to resurrect VLO this Easter season, with an admin note about the last few months plus a reflection on enjoying cigars and rum in Bonaire. Jason is joined by his friend Alaric to review the Big Bad Baptista beer plus the Underberg herbal digestive.
In the first podcast in the post-Tony era, Jason outlines the 2020 strategy for content and programming, then pays homage to his former co-host with a collection of outtakes from the last 100 or so episodes.
Tony goes out with a bang, as we toast the new chapter in his podcasting life with a pour of the 2008 Dom Pérignon champagne. Jason smokes the Rocky Patel Aged, Limited & Rare cigar -- then we wrap with our annual tradition of offering our gaming predictions for the coming year.
Warning: The VLO Christmas train derailed upon entering the station. We sip the spiced pear bourbon cockail before Jason shares his experience with the Micallef Bold Mata Fina cigar. We wrap up with a reflection about how -- thanks to The Cal -- Las Vegas may claim to be the ninth Hawaiian island. Ho ho ho!
After sipping a cranberry cinnamon whiskey sour, your czars of cigars impart five more facts about cigars (we started this list in November) before wrapping up with a reflection on how the "image" of Vegas influenced mid-century approaches to gambling.
Sip the tasty Jason's Blueberry Martini No. 1 as we discuss the Undercrown Shade and the Arturo Fuente Destino al Siglo cigars. We offer some cold-weather reminders for cigar humidification, then we circle back to an annual topic -- enjoying the casinos over major end-of-year holidays.
As you may have picked up from Episode 438 — posted on December 1, 2019 — Tony Snyder is hanging up his Golden VLO Microphone. To set the stage for ...
We begin with an important programming note about the show. We then sip the Saugatuck Brewing Neapolitan Milk Stout before reviewing the Alec Bradley Gatekeeper and Arturo Fuente Xtra Viejo cigars. We riff about how our cigar preferences have changed, then we share some of the biggest single table-game wins in casino history.
We saki-it to you with hot saki, cold saki, and a Saki Bloody Mary. Then Jason smokes a Herrera Esteli Miami and Tony smokes an Oliva CT Reserve. We share some tips for group cigar enjoyment over Gobble-Gobble Day, then we wrap with a review of nine of the biggest casino heists in history.
We enjoy a tasty Fall Ginger Smash cocktail before launching into reviews of the Kristoff Shade Grown and the Micallef Sumatra cigars. We wrap with a review of last week's shareholder vote for the Caesars-Eldorado merger and share our fevered hopes and dreams for what the new company might do.
In which, we sample the Peerless Distilling "Sip of Summer" Rye, the Arturo Hemingway Classic cigar and the Cavalier Genève Black No. 2 cigar. We also introduce the first five items in our list of ten things to know about cigars.
Sip the fiery first-in-a-century bottling of Peerless bourbon. Smoke the Blind Man's Bluff CT and Cavalier Genève cigars. Learn about heirloom cigar seeds and how to slow-play blackjack. Because you've earned it.
Shoulder Monkey! Shoulder Monkey funky. We review this blended Scotch as well as the Cohiba Connecticut and the Plasencia Alma Fuerte cigars. And don't miss our refresher about cigar wrapper leaves and about the outlook for skill-based gaming in the (clueless) casino near you.
We start by sipping the Old Granddad bottled-in-bond bourbon. Mixed reviews. On a cigar front, Tony smoked the Timeless Sterling whilst Jason puffed the FSG by Drew Estate. On the "more you know" front, we share some facts and myths around HR 1854 (a bill about the FDA's regulation of premium hand-rolled cigars) as well as explore relative comp offers between video poker and slot players.
Get your autumnal groove on with a dram of the Col. E. H. Taylor Small Batch bourbon before diving into a Gurkha Marquesa and a La Palina Bronze-label cigar. We wrap up this "succinct" show with a tour of the 10 worst bets in the casino.
After sampling from Jason's infinity bottle, Jason -- in a #ThanksDuane moment -- reviews the Nestor Miranda 75th Anniversary Collection cigar. Tony smokes the Davidoff Nicaragua Diadema. We wrap up with a conversation about the 10 best bets in the casino.
In today's excursion into podcasting excellence, we sip the Makers Mark Private Select Oak Stave Selection while Jason reviews the Ultra Q by Oscar Valladares. We then briefly riff on the differences between single-, triple- and 100-line video poker.
In this Cuba-themed show, we enjoy the Edmundo Dantes 15-year and Santiago de Cuba 11-year rums as well as two hand-rolled cigars -- all straight from Cuba, and gifts of the wise and generous friend of the show, Roy. We wrap up with a primer about Pai Gow.
To celebrate All Things Jason, we reflect on Vegas Vacation IX, including the 360 Whiskey Lounge (five Whistle Pigs to review!) and the Montecristo Lounge (Padron 1964 Maduro and Liga Privada No. 9) events. We also chat about our gambling reflections from our recent excursion to the Happiest Place on Earth.
In our first recording session back from summer vacation, we share snippets of the fun Jason and Tony had in Louisville, KY and that Jason had in Denton, TX. Through which, we sample a Manhattan made with Peerless Rye's special Honey Oak & Citrus whiskey. We also enjoy a martini made with Castle & Key gin. Jason delighted in The Oscar, hand-picked for him by Oscar Valladares himself at Cigar Frogs in Texas; Tony smoked a Punch Gran Puro Nicaragua. Finally, we share Jason's gambling woes at the Winstar Casino & Resort in Oklahoma while we marvel in the soon-to-be-finished construction project at the Horseshoe Southern Indiana. So much content, so little time.
We sample two special releases of New Holland's Dragon's Milk line of beers -- the triple mash and reserve maple oak. Tony doesn't enjoy a La Palina Mr. Sam while Jason kinda-sorta enjoys a Diesel Whiskey Rwo cigar. We wrap up with a reflection on Vegas casino security in light of an LVPD officer being fired for freezing at Mandalay Bay.
We pack a lot of great content in to a less-than-30-minute show! After sipping a delicious Black Manhattan, Tony briefly recounts his story of a Romeo y Julieta 1875, a Cuban he received as a gift. Jason, meanwhile, smoked the 2019 release of the Camacho Liberty Series 2012 Thowback. We wrap up with a legal-like segment about facial recognition technology in casinos.
Summer vacation is almost over, but the podcasts continue ... slowly. In this episode, Jason rants at Boyd Gaming and its [insert expletive here] B-Connected program. Plus, we drink a special Angel's Envy and enjoy an Alec Bradley Blind Faith cigar.
Podcast 422, 7/28/19 … We continue through the canine days of summer with a shorter episode showcasing a Skrewball PB&J Old Fashioned, courtesy of Phil. On the cigar front, we ...
Our annual summer vacation starts with an homage to Cuba, thanks to some Havana Club 7-year rum and a tasty hand-rolled cigar, courtesy of Roy. Jason also had a cigar -- an Alec Bradley Project 40 Experimental Series stick. We wrap it up with a review of the Michigan commercial gaming review, courtesy of the American Gaming Association.
You think the title of this show is long? Just you wait to see how we stretch our closing script. This is the first time ever, in VLO history, we actually let the entire audio track of our bumper music run all the way through, becuase it needed to run all the way through. Yikes. Anyway, in this exciting, totally rad podcast, we sip the Old Forester 1910 Old Fine Whisky -- a gift from A Fanboy! -- then dive into a pair of cigars. Jason sampled the Montecristo Pilotico Pepe Mendez while Tony herfed the A. Flores 1975 Serie Privada Capa Habano SP52. Say that five times fast! We wrap with a brief foray into the minutiae of video poker and blackjack basic strategy that the cards -- even our glorious card -- won't tell you. Can't miss!
Get ready to ruuuuumble. In this corner, the beleaguered Crescent Creek bourbon. In the other corner, Jason buys a box of cigars and a new humidor. In the other other corner, Tony smokes a Macanudo Inspirado. In the other other other corner, your gurus of gambling discuss Jason's conservative craps betting strategery. Plus outtakes! It's like Christmas at the end of June.
Jason force-feeds Tony a pair of martinis -- one made with Hendrick's Midsummer Solstice gin and the other with Roku Gin from the Suntory distillery in Japan. Turns out, he liked one and hated one. Then, we talk about good conduct regarding cigars, alcohol and smartphones while you're at the casino.
We start with the Jim Beam Distiller's Masterpiece before settling into the Arturo Fuente Don Carlos Edición de Aniversario cigar. We wrap up with chatter about pending legislation in Illinois that would significantly upend that state's gaming environment.
In which, we reflect on our experiences at 360Vegas Vacation VIII in fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada.
In this well-lubricated show, we review the New Holland Dragon's Milk White stout beer (yay!) and the Gurkha Cellar Reserve 18-year Hedonism cigar (boo!). Then, your gurus of gaming explore the 1980s-era case of negligence by the El Dorado casino. Plus, a two-minute blooper reel.
In this marathon voyage into auditory brilliance, Jason and Tony enjoy a sampler pack of the Redbreast (Irish) whiskey before sharing a few milestone innovations in whiskey technology. We then relate the tale of Ken Uston and blackjack card counting, from the perspective of the New Jersey Supreme Court. We wrap up with a pair of stogie reviews -- the Nestor Miranda 75th Anniversary, and the Partagas Serie E No. 2 Cuban puro.
We sip from the Adictivo tequila sampler. Then we chat briefly about some apps to keep track of your spirits. We dive into the history and allocation of fines assessed by the Nevada Gaming Commission, then we commiserate over the Davidoff Winston Churchill Limited Edition 2019 cigar.
We help you prepare to celebrate the mother in your life by means of a tasty Manhattan cocktail made with Jamaican rum -- and Bill weighs in on the results. Then your gurus of gaming opine about Jason's ADT and what it means for offers vs. tier status. We wrap with cigars -- Tony puffs the Rocky Patel The Edge Connecticut and Jason enjoys the Mi Querida Ancho Largo cigar.
We review the J Gaze overproof rum cocktail with our friend Bill. Then Tony discusses the Arturo Fuente Anejo Reserve Xtra Viejo cigar before Jason dives into the Herrera Esteli Brazilian Maduro cigar. We wrap up with a brief overview of New Hampshire's lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Justice regarding online lottery vis-à-vis the Wire Act.
Bill returns for Part III of our foray into rum, this time touching on some overproof spirits. Then we wrap up our two-parter about state regulatory reform for the gaming industry. Tony reviews the Hoya de Monterrey Epicure No. 2 -- a Cuban puro -- then Jason slides into home plate with a Cigar Factory New Orleans Plantation Reserve cigar.
We start with another rum segment with Bill Carney -- we enjoy the J. Wray Gold rum, the Smith & Cross traditional Jamaican rum and the Doctor Bird Jamaican rum. Then we review the Arturo Fuente Reserva Don Carlos Eye of the Shark cigar, a gift from the studly Texan, Mr. Chris Moore himself. Then we begin a two-parter about regulatory reform at the state level, within the gaming industry. All that, plus we launch a new 4-by-6 reference card to help you navigate basic strategy and tastings.
Jason and Tony enjoy a Cohiba Ciglo No. 6 cigar, fresh from Tony's vacation to Jamaica. The viceroys of vice talk about selling Caesars. Then we're joined by our friend Bill, a rum connoisseur and occasional consumer judge, for the first of a multi-part series exploring the wild, wooly world of rum. This week: An Appleton Estates sampler.
Podcast 407, 4/7/19 … Indulge your vices with a tasty, tasty VLOhattan Cocktail before we riff about the La Galera 1936 box-pressed cigar. We wrap up with the “other half” ...
Tony's soon off to the Bahamas, so what better way to celebrate than with a generous splash of Plantation Rum? That sweet amber lubricates Jason's experience with the Isla del Sol toro cigar. We wrap up with some thoughts about the "good" bets at the craps table, for beginners -- and don't worry, next week, we discuss the bad ones.
We start with a review of the Russell's Reserve Small Batch 10-year whiskey and the Taildragger amber rum -- both gifts from @skyyontherocks -- then we pivot to Jason's experience with the Camacho candela cigar. We wrap it up with some tips for using the casino as your home base for a non-casino trip.
Happy St. Patrick's Day, ye heathens. We celebrate with a whirlwind tour of Jameson whiskey, plus -- for good measure -- Emu Export, a beer from Down Under. Oh, and the Alec Bradley Prensado and how letting it age makes a difference.
We spend a long, long time with the Ramos Gin Fizz cocktail before launching into an introductory Q&A about slots.
Splooge yourself in decadence with our extended review of the Vieux Carre cocktail and the Room 101 Farce. Enjoy, too, a refresher on the myths and don't-do practices around playing the slots.
Your Viceroys of Vice are joined by the fearless Timothy Lawson of The Bettor Life to recount our swing-through of six Chicagoland casinos. We enjoy the sublime Whistle Pig rye whiskey while we chat, and Mr. Lawson -- a cigar n00b -- discusses his encounter with the Montecristo White cigar.
Get an aural shot of antibiotics with the Penicillin Cocktail, a tasty prelude to a brief discussion of the Avo 30-year cigar. We wrap up with an informative discourse about a recent odd memorandum about online gaming courtesy of the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as with some zesty outtakes.
Join us as we taste a Bermuda Hooker (cocktail) before Valentine's Day, and enjoy both the Asylum 13 Connecticut and Bloodline O.P.A. cigars. Your Gurus of Gambling then offer some remedial advice about bettin' on the ponies.
Woohoo! Nearly 52 minutes of podcasting excellence, in which your Viceroys of Vice sample three different varieties of Glenmorangie Scotch before reviewing the Rodriguez Series 84 and the Davidoff Las Vegas cigars and giving The People a reminder of the basics of probability.
Woohoo! Nearly 52 minutes of podcasting excellence, in which your Viceroys of Vice sample three different varieties of Glenmorangie Scotch before reviewing the Rodriguez Series 84 and the Davidoff Las Vegas cigars and giving The People a reminder of the basics of probability.
We sip the Bally's Old Fashioned before reviewing the Davidoff Anniversario No. 3 and Kristoff Vengeance cigars. Then we refresh your memory about the lingo related to cigar wrappers, binders and fillers. The show ends on a high note, as we offer an update on the exploding world of sports betting.
Brave the winter chill with a Montecristo No. 2 cigar, a dram of Jefferson's Grand Selection Chateau Suduiraut Sauternes Cask Finish bourbon, and an enjoyable chat about the implications of the forthcoming Circa resort casino in downtown Las Vegas.
We share some upcoming destination events in Chicagoland and the Big Easy, and Tony reflects on his Christmas trip to Las Vegas. In a doubleheader #ThanksDuane moment, we enjoy the Romeo y Julieta Romeo #2 cigar and a sample of a 26-year-old Bunnahabhain single-malt Scotch.
We sip a cranberry bourbon cocktail and we discuss value bourbons and the cost of a bottle. We also review the My Father La Opulencia (Tony's turn!) and the Drew Estates Kentucky Fire Cured cigars. We wrap up with a list of reasons why the bartender at the video poker bar hates you.
Your viceroys of vice bless you with a pre-Christmas podcast featuring some tasty slow-cooker sangria and a conversation about keeping your tier credits if they're due to expire. On the cigar front, Jason reviews the Hamlet Liberation, while Tony expresses his intense dismay over the Undercrown Sun Grown — which he bills as the worst cigar he's ever smoked.
We begin with a delicious "Very Merry Ornamentini" holiday-themed cocktail before launching into a review of the exclusive Davidoff Year of the Dog 2018 cigar. We wrap up with some tips for looking like a high roller at the casino — so you can increase your perceived value to the casino (and hence the quality of your offers) in the eyes of the pit boss.
The ho-ho-ho is strong with us this week as we enjoy a tasty Ch-RITA-mas Tree cocktail as a lead-in to talking about glass decanters for your alcohol. Jason enjoys the Kristoff 685 Woodlawn and Tony smokes the La Palina Classic Rosado. Finally, we reflect on investing in casino real-estate investment trusts.
We review the Coppercraft Distillery straight bourbon whiskey, which Jason fixes with the artisanal Jason's Fire Extinguisher No. 1 cocktail. Then Jason smokes the Rocky Patel Aged, Limited & Rare as a lead-in to refreshing your memory about cigar shapes. We wrap up with a discussion about picking casino games based on house advantage.
We drink Jason's False Dichotomy; Jason smokes the Asylum 13 Medulla; Tony and the family enjoy a Thanksgiving casino trip.
We'll sip the Jason Thanksgiving Punch No. 2; Jason reviews the My Father La Opulencia; Tony smokes the 858 Natural; we talk about buying custom packs from tobacconist; and we chat about obtaining players cards from one-off casinos.
We set the stage for podcasting excellence with a dram of The Sexton Single-Malt Irish Whiskey before segueing into reviews of the Gurkha Cellar Reserve 18-year and Rocky Patel Vintage 1990 cigars. We then explore the meaning of cigar-wrapper colors. Also on deck: A review of the recently expanded Gun Lake Casino, a tribal facility in Allegan County, Michigan.
Two months later, we re-examine the Supreme Court case around PASPA, we sip a delicious Sazerac, Tony smokes a Winston Churchill, and Jason enjoys a Asylum 13 Medulla Oblongata.
The Boyd B-Connected program; the Davidoff 702 Series and Carlos A. Fuente Personal Reserve cigars; a comparison of the Midwinter's Night Dram vs. Angel's Envy Rye; a walk-through of the Top 20 Whiskeys per Cigar Advocate.
In which your viceroys of vice teach you a basic Paigow strategery, sip some Wild Turkey Master's Keep Revival, decode bourbon labels, and smoke an Acid Blondie and a Bellas Artes by AJ Fernandez.
In this special one-off bonus show, we share an interview with Mike Bird of MichiGrain Distillery in downtown Lansing, Michigan.
Your viceroys of vice sample a copule of Weller bourbons while chatting about whiskey at 30k feet. Then we discuss the tasty Vato Las Vegas blend cigars before enlightening you about Michigan's commercial casino landscape.
We address tips for new cigar smokers; blackjack strategy cards; the etiquette of pitch blackjack; Midwinter's Night Dram blended rye whiskey. A bit of echo here -- this is an older recording that we've mostly rehabbed.
Recording challenge, per usual -- wrong mic selected. D'oh. We cover the Zino Platinum Rocket cigar, drink the Elmer T. Lee bourbon; and chat about the difference between Strip, Downtown, and locals casinos.
We review five different bonded bourbons, plus Jason reviews the Perdomo Estate Selection Vintage Sun Grown and the gurus of gaming talk "group gaming."
Raise your glencairns in tribute to a quadruple-header: We review four Old Forester bourbons — the Classic 86, the 1870 Original Batch, the 1897 Bottled in Bond and the 1920 Prohibition Style. Then we informally chat about Jason's observations playing new-to-him carnival games at the casino. We wrap up with a pair of cigar reviews: Tony enjoys the Davidoff Las Vegas while Jason puffed on The T.
In which the viceroys of vice relate last weekend's excursion to Windsor, Ontario. Highlights include offending celebrities, broiling atop a distillery, "enjoying" a Cuban cigar, lamenting slow restaurant service and venturing to Windsor-area breweries.
We explore one-off casinos, sip the Balvenie 21-year single-malt Scotch, discuss the standards of classifying alcohol and enjoy a pair of cigars -- the Isabela Sparkle and the Casa Fernandez Miami Arsenio Oro.
Trip reports are so passé—so instead we regale you with a series of reflections about our recent Las Vegas trip for ZorkFest and 360Vegas Vacation VI. Whilst pontificating, we sip some Blanton's bourbon.
We sip the Spring Bijou cocktail while offering practical springtime guidance for keeping bugs outta yo' drinks. Then, in our cigar segment, Tony revisits the Baccarat 1871 before Jason reviews the MF the Judge -- after which, we talk about beetles, mold and bloom. Finally, Jason and Tony offer a few casino games to try … and a few to avoid.
We start with the Paloma cocktail then discuss the cocktail ingredients you ought to make yourself. Tony reviews the Arturo Fuente Gran Reserva 858 cigar, before your czars of cigars share their Top 3 lists. We wrap it up with some suggested tips for staff on the casino floor.
We start with a few etiquette points about casino chips at the craps and blackjack tables before diving into a pair of cigar reviews—Tony's Nestor Mirando Collection Special Selection and Jason's Romeo 505. We offer some advice about the care and maintenance of butane torches, then sip a tasty Spring Fling cocktail while riffing about home artisanal distilling.
After discussing the SCOTUS ruling on PASPA, we sip the tasty Trinidad Sour cocktail and reflect on the U.S. trend away from domestic mass-produced beer consumption. Then Tony shares his experience with the Rocky Patel Vintage 2006 San Andreas cigar, followed by Jason's notes about the Macanudo Inspirado White. We wrap it up with some ideas for what to take with you to the casino if you're going to enjoy several premium hand-rolled cigars.
We start by being underwhelmed by the Crown Royale bourbon mash whiskey. Then we pivot to cigars: Tony reviews the Tatuaje Monopoly and Jason reviews the PDR AFR75 Immenso Claro. Then we riff on annoyances in casinos and remind you of the ways to properly cut a cigar.
A comparison of two related Scotches—the Valkyrie and the Viking Honour, both from Highland Park—prompts discussion of the differences between Scotch and bourbon. Then your czars of cigars dissect the anatomy of a stogie, before sharing the sundry ways casinos psychologically induce you to stay and play longer.
We review the Angel's Envy rye, we discuss what "proof" means for your spirits, we offer a brief timeline of a tobacco plant's evolution into a cigar, we revisit the $20 upgrade trick, and Jason reviews the Montecristo Platinum torpedo.
Your Viceorys of Vice sip the zesty VLO Sunrise cocktail while sharing some insight into some cocktails that bartenders increasingly hate making. Then we talk about pairing cigars with whiskeys before offering some delightful facts about the history of playing cards.
Frankenpodcast! Blame editing errors. We talk about building a Vice Lounge library, as well as the Singleton Scotch.
Jason regales you with stories of his March trek to Denton, Texas. While we reminisce, we enjoy Duane's gift of the Roughtail Brewing Haze Queen and E-Juice.
We review the Night Terror IPA and the Everything Rhymes with Orange beers. Then we wax eloquent about upping your game for your cigar accessories and for behaving well when you're doing a group pull (at the slot machine, we hasten to add!).
Tony amazes and delights The People with tales of his trip to Lake Tahoe and Reno. All the while, your Barons of Beer enjoy the Hoptometrist double IPA and the Polar Eclipse American double/imperial stout beers.
Trip review! Windsor! W00t! Lubricated with the Lancaster Double Chocolate Milk Stout and the Founders Dirty Bastard beers.
Rinse the wee bit o' the Irish out of your mouth with two tasty cocktails: The VLO Leprechaun and the Irish Derby. Jason shares a review of the Aging Room Bin No. 1 cigar, which he enjoyed at Cigar Frogs in Texas. The gurus of gamblin' debate which is "better" -- Jacks or Better or Double Double Bonus at the video poker terminal.
Tony, in this solo show, stitches together a grab bag of old segments and a guest segment with Tony's step-brother-in-law. Plus, outtakes!
We start with a seductive, spicy Speyside Scotch in the form of the 16-year Tomintoul. Then Jason puffs the Avo Lounge double corona. Finally, we pontificate for what seems like an eternity about a casino's liability to patrons around safety.
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Beginning with a dram of the Suntory Whisky Toki Japanese whiskey, then progressing through a Macanudo Inspirado White and a Padron 1964 Anniversary Presidente Natural, your viceroys of vice offer brilliant, value-added reviews. Then we pivot to the second of our two-part conversation about the ways casinos mitigate money laundering.
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In this well-lubricated episode, Jason and Tony imbibe two Cynar-based cocktails (the "Patreon Love," so named because Tony forgot the name of it, and the "Cynar Flip") and share their experiences with the Kristoff Brittania and the Opus X Lost City cigars. Then we begin a two-part gaming segment focused on the ways the casinos fight money laundering. Can't miss!
Get ready for an extra-long monologue about W2Gs punctuated by the Toronto and the Eeyore's Requirem cocktails and the Davidoff Year of the Dog cigar.
Fortified with some Makers Mark Private Select whiskey—a generous gift from Andrew—Jason regales The People with a review of the Davidoff Nicaragua cigar. Then, your Gurus of Gaming discuss some upcoming gambling-related events.