Part 2 of my conversation with guest Matt Phillion about society's obsession with celebrity. I've also got music from Creepers, Naomi Punk and Hooray for Earth.

Show notes:

• Scandal rags are still popular

• Celebs and social media can lead to trouble

• Now everyone's got a camera to catch your every mistake

• Michael Richards was beloved until he screwed up

• People will turn on celebs in an instant

• The strange life of Tom Cruise, Entertainment Robot

• Doing interview junkets must be mind-numbing

• Supreme Court nominee was rejected in the '80s because of pot smoking

• The media mastery of Bill Clinton

• Public perception matters

• Asking the wrong question

• Jay: Meeting Stephen Colbert was pretty cool

• Jay: Sat next to Jordan Knight of New Kids on the Block on a flight once

• People will stand for hours just to get shown on The Today Show

• Suing Naked Dating reality show for...being naked

• To be continued

Music:

Creepers - Stuck

Naomi Punk - Television Man

Hooray for Earth - Airs

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The Creepers song is on the album Lush from the All Black Recording Company. Download the song for free from Stereogum.

The Naomi Punk song is on the album Television Man on Captured Tracks. Download the song for free from KEXP.

The Hooray for Earth song is on the album Racy on Dovecote Records. Download the song for free from KEXP.

The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Find out more about Senor Breitling at his fine music blog Clicky Clicky. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.