In this archive episode, Rick Lasky continues his discussion with Dave McGrail of the Denver (CO) Fire Department.

This podcast originally ran on July 20, 2009.

Listen to part 1: https://www.blogtalkradio.com/fireengineeringpodcast/2021/09/23/throwback-pride-and-ownership-dave-mcgrail

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