In our 196th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker, Brian Egan, and Nick Weaver discuss: China’s perspective on “sovereignty in cyberspace” emerges at China’s World Internet Conference although there is perhaps a ray of hope for US companies from a sidelines discussion with China’s governing cyber official on China’s cyber law; US financial institutions and their “project doomsday”; Nick Weaver asks what Apple is doing for pen/trap orders; unmasking rules changed as advocated by, uh, me; Germany calling for back doors in devices; Ethiopia spying on US-based journalists and human rights activists; our guest interview is with Elsa Kania, Adjunct Fellow with the Center for a New American Security. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.