Sec. Friedlander introduces Dr. Ursula Mullins as they discuss a wide range of subjects including her passion for data, participation in Toastmasters, and what she's learned from facing adversity head-on. Mullins and Friedlander agree that employees who have been on the front lines of the COVID-19 pandemic and witnessed recent protests for fairness and equality have the ability to circle the wagons as we do our best to help Kentuckians from all walks of life.