David Aaronovitch and guests discuss the reasons why millions of people in the UK aged between 16 and 64 are neither working nor looking for work and what we can do about it.

Tony Wilson, Director of the Institute for Employment StudiesSam Avanzo Windett, Deputy Director at the Learning and Work InstituteTorsten Bell, Chief Executive at the Resolution Foundation

Production team: Sally Abrahams, Kirsteen Knight and Ben CarterEditor: Richard VadonProduction Co-ordinator: Gemma AshmanSound engineers: James Beard