Sean and EJ talk self-driving cars – from the tech to the ethics – culminating in a years-long wager. In the aftershow, Sean tries a new podcast client.

Links and Show Notes * Accidental Tech Podcast: 165: Time Was… – Self-driving cars discussion * Tesla car drives owner to hospital after he suffers pulmonary embolism - BBC Newsbeat * US opens investigation into Tesla after fatal crash - BBC News * Autonomous car - Wikipedia * Master Plan, Part Deux | Tesla * Model S | Tesla * Understanding Tesla Autopilot – Marco.org * comma.ai * Lidar - Wikipedia * Accidental Tech Podcast: 154: A Rich Toddler’s Toy – John Siracusa's Destiny HUD * Pocket Casts * Castro * Overcast * Upgrade: 102: Cautionary Tale of Laptops – Castro 2 discussion

Sean - @splunsford EJ - @muffinworks