Zoe Kessler, Creative Director at Barton F. Graf (at the time of recording*), joins us to talk about embracing what makes you different in the industry. Hear about how to make the most of your job even if it’s not your ideal position, why we should grill the person interviewing us, working with other agencies on the pro bono campaign Donate:60, and learning to accept recognition as a female creative.

*Note - since we recorded this episode, Zoe has moved on from Barton F. Graf.

If you’re in the Portland area, RSVP for Friday’s Double Back event at Wieden+Kennedy, hosted in collaboration with FIR Northwest.