The co-hosts discuss an article that Gini wrote for Spin Sucks that looks at 6 reasons that agency owners have trouble scaling. The conversation includes lots of actionable ideas -- despite Chip's best efforts to sidetrack things as he struggles to remember high school science basics in making an analogy.

• Reason #1: You Don’t Have a Business Plan
• Reason #2: You Can’t Break Free from Client Work
• Reason #3: Operating In Chaos
• Reason #4: Freakin’ Technology! Who Can Keep Up?
• Reason #5: Not Understanding the Whole “Measurement” Thing
• Reason #6: You Lose Focus

Agency owners are entrepreneurs and Gini notes that tends to come with a certain level of stubbornness.  Or as Chip put it: "There's great similarity between a toddler and an entrepreneur."

The pair try to help owners break out of this tendency to find solutions and help them scale.