TimestampsThe guest of this episode of the Floating Architecture, Engineering & Design Series is Rutger de Graaf van Dinter, a civil engineer with a very special vision. In this conversation with our seavangelesse, Rutger speaks of how floating architecture can make human societies more resilient. Not only at an engineering level, but also in terms of better governance. Engineering will make us free! Free from bad governance is the conclusion of this podcast between Rutger de Graaf and Nathalie Mezza-Garcia.    –––VARYON PRESALE––– https://www.blue-frontiers.com/en/varyon   –––JOIN US ON TELEGRAM––– T.me/bluefrontierscommunity   Timestamps: 1:02 Introduction to Rutger de Graaf and his PhD thesis 1:43 Harnessing complexity in sociotechnical systems 4:07 Transition management 4:36 Why building floating structures 5:00 Water management in the Netherlands 6:22 Algae fuels 6:45 Land scarcity 7:48 Sea level rise 8:33 Resilience and adaptation 10:48 Vulnerability of centralised systems 12:23 Decentralised water management 12:57 The robustness of decentralised and distributed systems 13:49 Achieving political independence with decentralised physical infrastructure 14:55 Governance on the commons 15:37 Autonomy and self-governance of utility infrastructure 16:58 Public/private partnerships on seasteads 18:00 The limitations of traditional legislation for technological innovation 19:20 Can engineering make us free? 20:10 The value of experimentation 22:20 Monitoring as a mechanism of control and learning 22:45 The weakening of the nation-state 25:10 Space at Sea, a project between Blue21 and Marine in the North Sea 26:10 City states on water 27:18 Floating Special Economic Zones   29:40 The impossibly of knowledge 28:37 Learning from ecology 29:53 The failure of hierarchical management for organising societies 30:20 What has changed in the past ten years 32:58 The visionary municipality of Rotterdam 34:30 The municipality of Rotterdam   34:20 The power of young innovators and the role of luck in success 36:30 The limitations of innovation steering by governments 37:20 The value of failures 39:38 A future full of seasteads 41:00 The impact of Joe Quirk’s book 43:29 Rutger childhood’s dreams 44:36 Indymo, water monitoring with underwater drones (Indymo) 48:33 Underwater sensors (algae monitoring, temperature, turbidity, salinity, nutrients…) 51:00 Rui Lima, the global expert in underwater drones for monitoring water quality 52:18 The intrinsic value of nature 54:25 How floating structures can help create new underwater ecosystems 56:45 Monitoring water in the Floating Island Project 58:30 Floating Futures Conference   –––––SUBSCRIBE–––––iTunes: https://apple.co/2DD5f4uStitcher: http://bit.ly/2DwaIuK –––––LEARN MORE–––––https://www.blue-frontiers.comhttps://twitter.com/bluefrontiershttps://www.instagram.com/bluefrontiers/https://www.facebook.com/Blue-Frontiers-255004088265639/