Though James Maples, who holds a doctorate in sociology, isn’t a climber himself, he’s still an integral member of the climbing community. As an associate professor at Eastern Kentucky University and director of the EKU Division for Regional Economic Assessment and Modeling, Maples focuses on Appalachian studies and economic impact research. This combination of interests was the impetus for James to conduct his first study in 2015 on the economic impact of climbing at Red River Gorge, Kentucky. Since, Maples has conducted multiple economic impact studies at the Red and elsewhere. He has also written numerous articles and a book on climbers and the regional economic impact of climbing at crags and boulder fields across the country. Maples has a wealth of knowledge, which he shares generously in this conversation that touches on his book, the history of climbing advocacy in rural Appalachia, and his work to support the climbing community around the country. 4:38- Red River Gorge history preamble12:49- James’ intro16:50- James’ connection to Access Fund21:23- James’ new book34:04- Red River dam project proposal38:21- Early advocacy days - Cumberland Climbers47:15- 1994 bolting ban56:28- Kentucky Heartwood lawsuit59:20- The archaeological dig at the Military Wall1:12:09- Economic impacts studies1:25:36- Management actions from the economic studies1:29:03- Potential downsides to tourism-based economies1:34:42- Climber-specific Leave No Trace studyRock Climbing in Kentucky’s Red River Gorge book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57691814-rock-climbing-in-kentucky-s-red-river-gorgeEconomic Impact Study in the Red River Gorge YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxzmyFkY5hM“Do Climbers Leave No Trace” YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTFXBlCz3V4&t=197sJames’ email: james.maples@eku.edu