Catherine McNiel joined Aubrey Sampson to pinch hit for Brian From. Catherine is the author of the new book “Fearing Bravely: Risking Love for Our Neighbors, Strangers, and Enemies”

(00:00-09:42): It was an eventful 4th of July, with a mass shooting at the parade in Highland Park and also protests over a police shooting in Ohio. Aubrey and Catherine talked about how we can respond when things like these happen.

(09:42-18:50): A Youtuber named “Technoblade” died of cancer last week. Aubrey and Catherine talked about the impact he has had on all of their kids.

(18:50-27:35): How do you love and interact with people that you disagree with?

(27:35-36:26): What are the characteristics that make a relationship healthy?

(36:26-46:00): University of Virginia professor of religious studies Charles Marsh has a new memoir called “Evangelical Anxiety.” Aubrey and Catherine shared their reaction.

(46:00-54:54): Aubrey and Catherine wrapped up the show by sharing a list of ways to know you’ve crossed the threshold into being old.

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