Ward sits with his good friend Sergei Kutrovski at a favorite watering hole and cigar bar. Amidst the smoke they discuss Sergei’s wild ride of life that has led him to where he is now. Along the way they hit on things such as:

Being a refugee

Faith and mission

Pain of life

Art and coffee

Restoration

Here you can find the blog that was referenced in the podcast. https://www.lifeonward.co/blog/2019/4/25/through-the-valley