Welcome to the first episode of Convos with Clay! I am thrilled to introduce you to our first guest, Kevin Penry.

You can find show notes and links to items discussed at claysteves.com/podcast 

Kevin is an architect by trade and spent over 25 years as a home and commercial builder and developer. After decades in the building industry, Kevin took a big leap and changed careers to join the directional leadership team for a new, growing church in Edmond, OK. During Kevin’s 17 years on staff at Life.Church, they saw weekend attendance grow from 800 – to over 80,000 with over 30 locations in 10 different states. Since retiring from Life.Church, Kevin now uses his experience to consult multisite churches and small businesses across the country.  

Our conversation ranges from the Silverback gorillas in Africa to the constant companion of self-awareness to the danger of needing respect from others. I have no doubt his wisdom will make an impact on your life as well. Enjoy!