The fourth (of eight) conversations with Carel Nolte about the future of investing where we talk about alternative investment options, asset classes for the future, and how we can get children interested in investing.

As always, we also talk about wine, and this time chat about an interesting blend made by an interesting wine maker, Erika Obermeyer. If you're not a fan of the wine conversation, skip a few minutes to the end to hear Carel talk about getting future generations involved in future investing.

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