In this Workday Playdate, Erin sits down with Jane Chen to challenge the “always-on” mindset and invite overachievers into something radically different: pause, process, and thrive. Jane is a best-selling author, leadership coach, and social entrepreneur best known as the co-founder of Embrace Global.If you’ve been sprinting toward success at the cost of your well-being, this episode is your reminder that slowing down is exactly how you move forward with intention.
Inside This Episode:

• Pause Before You Push: Why high achievers need to interrupt the cycle of constant doing to reconnect with themselves and avoid burnout.
• The Hidden Cost of Achievement: How chasing impact, success, and validation can quietly deplete your energy, identity, and joy.
• From Impact to Inner Work: Jane’s journey from building a global health company to finding healing through surfing, stillness, and self-reflection.
• Compassion Over Grit: Why resilience isn’t about pushing harder—it’s about practicing self-compassion and emotional awareness.
• Healing Is a Strategy: Exploring powerful modalities like internal family systems (IFS), therapy, and slowing down as tools for sustainable leadership.
• Letting Go of External Validation: Why chasing approval is a losing game—and how anchoring in your values creates lasting fulfillment.
• Ride the Wave: The ocean as a metaphor for life, timing, surrender, and trusting what you can’t control.
• Vulnerability = Strength: How embracing imperfection, fear, and faith can unlock confidence in leadership and public speaking.
• From Burnout to Breakthrough: Why moments of crisis or failure might actually be invitations to realign with your purpose.
• Joy Is Not Optional: How play, nature, and small daily moments of joy are essential for thriving at work and in life.

Who This Episode Is For:* Overachievers who are tired of running on empty * Leaders ready to trade burnout for sustainable success * HR and people leaders focused on well-being and human-centered performance * High-performing parents and professionals seeking balance without guilt * Anyone navigating burnout, identity shifts, or a season of rebuilding * Humans who want to achieve and feel whole while doing it

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