Wow this podcast is full of great insight and conversation as we have guest Jole Monroe on to discuss Juvenile systems and behavior change! You don’t want to miss this 2 part podcast!

We discuss so many great things including:

Values and Behavior changeChanging the Juvenile Systems industry approach to changeEmpathyMotivational InterviewingEmpowermentHow Juvenile systems have changed over the years

Hello, and welcome to the communication solution podcast here at IFIOC. We love to talk communication. We love to talk motivational interviewing, and we love talking about improving outcomes for individuals, organizations, and the communities that they serve. Today, we've got Casey Jackson on the line, John Gilbert, and I'm Tammy.

Welcome to the conversation. You are listening to a two-part podcast. Hello everyone. And welcome back to the communication solution. We have our usual team of the IFIOC team and a very special. Today, we have a special guest, Jole Monroe.. And we will just be having a conversation here withJole, about all sorts of different things that we can dive into related to being a probation, counselor, and what that means.

And how would you use MI in a compliance. [00:01:00] Possibly perceived environment and all sorts of different angles of this. But before we do, I know Casey, you had some particular questions or things to maybe introduce us about or introduce Jole about. So if you wouldn't mind kind of starting with.

Sure. Well, Jole and I have known each other personally, professionally for years. And I've watched Jole kind of move through the, through the juvenile system not from a child, but from just ongoing connections that I've had with different juvenile probation. You know, systems around the country.

But probably the most, because I live in Spokane as well, just such a connection and partnership, strong partnership with Spokane juvenile, and you know, where there was originally kind of some training at Motivational Interviewing and they wouldn't hear about it for years. And then like a couple other trainings and then probably within the last 18 months to two years, Just it's been more of an ongoing relationship, even on a statewide level at the JRA level that they've asked us to do trainings for all the, the [00:02:00] PCs around the state as well.

Just looking at a fidelity based integration and, and Jolie has really spearheaded that, and Spokane just always has a finger in theMotivational Interviewing side of things just going, how do we keep incorporating that? And how do we make it real? The, the thing that I want to tee up with with Jole as well too, and I think people will be interested in.

Is because from a supervisory level and an expectation on performance, what I know in the world that, that she works within is that they're just legislatively. They're just taking away. So many of the compliance tools, you know, always considered more of the hammers for compliance to keep juveniles, following conditions of probation, which are mandated.

Definitely, definitely accountability, Casey, like. Yeah, well, that's, that's what gets handed down to them to the, to the PC or the you know, the PC is that it's the juveniles a broken. And there's accountability for [00:03:00] that. So it's beyond accountability. There is like, it's not that yeah. You need to clean your room.

It's like, there's a whole different level of legal accountability. And historically there's always been able to kind of rattle this, you know, kind of rattled the sheath of you know, you, you know, if you don't do this, you're going to go to detention or I'm going to put you in front of the judge. And so there's always those kinds of threats that have had some.

At least it felt like there was some motor come of accountability that, that probation counselors could use. And more and more of those compliance methods have been taken away. Those tools have been taken away. And,