In this conversation, Philip spends time with Jennifer Garvey Berger, author of three acclaimed books, Changing on the Job, Simple Habits for Complex Times (co-authored with Keith Johnston), and Unlocking Leadership Mindtraps. They discuss how our complex realities impact the way we think about and develop leadership. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: A Tribe Called Quest People’s Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm (https://open.spotify.com/album/3kV0i1qqudjf0PGawJ4jck?si=aVCBkC23T72Mv-QhvJM6Eg) The Low End Theory (https://open.spotify.com/album/1p12OAWwudgMqfMzjMvl2a?si=27W8qG3tRc-MFe7NfQ7xCg) - Midnight Marauders (https://open.spotify.com/album/4v5x3Oo3UjQ9YmF3hRAip5?si=SGc7tRYKT62JLyM2mVM3Fg) - Jennifer’s Drop: Einstein’s Dreams – Alan Lightman (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/17655/alan-lightman/) https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/13/science/physics-einstein-broadway-lightman.html Special Guest: Jennifer Garvey Berger.