Our two Enneagram 3 panelists this week have done a great deal of work on themselves. While Jim Gum certainly has done a tremendous amount of work over his 30 years of working with the Enneagram, Steph Barron Hall's six years or so has brought her a long way as well. If you are ready to learn your Enneagram type and what to do with it, we have a giveaway for you! We’re offering a free Enneagram typing package to a lucky someone who gives us a review on iTunes or Spotify.  These typing packages are valued at $375, and include an interview, a proprietary test, and one follow up coaching session. So you heard it here: if you go to iTunes or Spotify and search for The Big Self Podcast and leave us a review, you can enter into a giveaway to get a free Enneagram typing package. After you leave us a review, go to https://form.typeform.com/to/OQOBpyDQ (BigSelfSchool.com/enneagramgiveaway) and fill out the form so you can be entered to win. Time Stamps: 1:25--Jim Gum introduces himself 3:42--Steph Barron Hall introduces herself 7:41--30 years ago, Jim discusses the intense emotional conflict he was experiencing before he learned about the Enneagram 12:30--Steph discusses the validation she felt that 3s are potentially the most emotional type of all 18:55--Steph agrees with Jim's point about feeling fragile, and goes on to explain her experience as an Instagrammer 33:55--Jim discusses how he has grown out of always having to do something even on his time off 40:41--Jim discusses the Thomas Merton prayer that he's memorizing, and also the concept of deceit and how that plays into our lives (and specific to 3s) 53:35--Steph discusses the importance of self-compassion for her inner growth 62:30--How 3s are so misunderstood Ready to unlock your potential? Check out our Enneagram Guide at https://www.bigselfschool.com/free/enneagram (bigselfschool.com/enneagram). Leave us a review and https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-big-self-podcast/id1485907203 (subscribe on Apple iTunes). https://open.spotify.com/show/1yx9VzUCRcYezd7cUlSRn4?si=Xygeo5a7T0ePnX7IaHu0AQ (Subscribe on Spotify). Find us at the Big Self Community on Facebook.