In this episode, Darin is joined from Western Australia by longtime colleague and one of his personal procurement heroes, Professor Guy Callender. Their conversation includes:

• Their work together in the earliest issues of The Journal of Public Procurement
• Procurement's acceptance, over time, into wider public administration circle 
• The challenges posed by a high number of disparate certifications 
• The differences in public and private procurement, and the dangers of approaching public procurement with a singularly cost-focused approach

And much more!