In this episode we chat with Emma, a mother of 3 earth side and 2 angel babies, doctor, and clinical psychologist. Emma believes her children's birth stories were the most transformative moments of her life. She endured two traumatic emergency caesareans and after her second section was diagnosed with CPD and told she could never birth vaginally. After grieving deeply and years of recovery and loss she fell pregnant with her daughter and her instincts drove her to question, to fight, to learn and to listen. She hired a private midwife and had a VBA2C where she realised her power, trust in herself and gained the most incredible respect for birthing Mummas past, present and yet to be.