Have you noticed how obsessed we are with bigness? From supersized meals to big-screen TV’s, we think bigger is better even for the Church! Author and pastor Karl Vaters loves the local church! He joins Chris Brooks to help us refocus our goals for Church growth in a way that brings healing, rebuilds trust, and reaches our communities for Christ! If you have been disillusioned by the American Church or long to see your own church renewed, don't miss this discussion!