On March 16, Brian Smith and Jackie Cuscuna signed a lease on a storefront for their new ice cream business The Social. As it happens, March 16 was one year to the day that Brian Smith and Jackie Cuscuna filed for personal and Chapter 11 bankruptcy for Ample Hills, the ice cream company they founded a decade ago. The couple, married for nearly 20 years, joins the podcast to discuss the spectacular rise and fall of Ample Hills—and what they're up to next. 

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