This week on WUWK?! We’ve got an episode that focuses on just one conversation with a woman who is one of the people that I use as a role model - she’s a white woman who definitely gets racism and social justice issues on deeper levels than I do. I am just cheesy enough that I have really and truly asked myself from time to time, “what would Pam do in a situation like this?” particularly when contemplating putting my foot in my mouth when I think I’ve just heard or seen something racist. And I often come away from interactions with Pam realizing that although she didn’t bother to call me out or call me in, if I pay attention to her tone of voice, I can learn something new about yet another one of under-educated about race white people tendencies. I’ve edited our conversation so you won’t hear too much overlap between the wisdom Pam is sharing here, and in other episodes. Also, so I don’t sound like a totally dipshit. So, with no further ado, let me introduce you to Pam.