[00:00:58] I was lucky enough and blessed enough to, become really good friends with the kid whose parents took me under their wing and he played basketball.

[00:01:44] I was lucky enough to play for a person who completely changed the trajectory of my entire life.

[00:02:08] He gave us just a lot of great life lessons…my confidence was like completely changed and he gave me something to look forward to.

[00:02:51] I was just trying to learn as much as I could through playing.

[00:03:52] The people that I knew in coaching said, Hey, you'll get to be a teacher.

[00:04:28] He asked me to leave my $32,000 a year job, for $2,000 a year job, and somehow convinced me to do it…he was given another job at Seattle Pacific. I was given a promotion to be the head coach…Leon Rice called me out of the blue and basically offered me an opportunity.

[00:05:38] I was really comfortable in LeGrand and, being working for somebody else, didn't really appeal to me that much, to be honest.

[00:05:57] Just wanted to get back to having my own program where you can create your own culture.

[00:07:12] And then the Monterey Bay, job opened and it's in Monterey.

[00:09:23] Then also the big thing with him was team.

[00:11:20] The spirit of the coaching versus the letter

[00:12:13] Coaching is just like an ever-evolving situation…you have to be willing to adapt and adjust.

[00:12:54] I've had to realize along the way that, I just don't know everything.

[00:13:45] You just have to be willing to, admit to yourself that you don't know everything and be hungry for knowledge and all the different areas.

[00:14:07] This kid might need my help, but because of their relationship with social media and how they interact with people. They may not know how to ask for it. So how do I look for the signs?

[00:15:19] I was really hard on them, I never gave praise of any kind, it was really just like about toughness and teamwork and this and that, but you have to be mentally and physically strong… And then my communication, like back then, it was just like, do it this way; it's my way or the highway. And now it's more like trying to explain why it's important to do these things…Back then it was really more just, they did what you asked them to do because you do it with a coach and being the coach doesn't qualify you anymore. You have to do a lot more to earn their trust.

[00:18:00] I have a hard time getting excited about doing the things that you're supposed to do.

[00:18:15] Putting them on the court, that's me saying, I trust you.

[00:20:05] The conversations that I'm having with our kids over the years are about real life. Making them think in bigger terms.

[00:20:24] Why do you think basketball is your only way out of your situation?

[00:20:38] I'm just always real, if you're messing up, I'm just going to tell you're messing up and if you're doing well, I'll tell you, but I'm just not going to, get excited about either end of that.

[00:21:58] And in college, the biggest difference is you have a chance to choose who you work with.

[00:22:18] The first part of culture is who you allow to be in it.

[00:22:39] Just like an employer of a company, you hire good people that fit your culture and, and maybe you hire good people that don't fit your culture.

[00:23:16] I feel like your first obligation should always be to the team.

[00:24:36] You don't hit a home, run on all of those relationships, but it has to be a constant effort on your part…But like I said, you got to be who you are, right? You can't fake it.

[00:26:29] Everybody has done laundry. Everybody has had to walk their kids to class.

[00:26:44] The other thing that you learn is what not to do

[00:27:08] When I was at Boise, what they did was really great was they learned how to quantify things that I didn't really realize were quantifiable at the time.

[00:29:38] There's a book, Gridiron Genius

[00:30:59] A lot of those low points in my life, having, given me perspective on being able to help kids who are going through their low points…My team is 20 plus years in the making, Thanksgiving morning when I'm texting, Hey, happy Thanksgiving. I got to sit down and go through about 20 years’ worth of rosters to get to all of these people.

[00:32:21] I fully understand that life is hard, because life was never easy for me… Being depressed is normal. Being sad is a normal. Sometimes if you're angry, that's normal, it's like really all about how you deal with it.

[00:33:44] I'm living in a great place. And I feel like my journey has allowed me to do what I always envisioned myself being able to do, which is hopefully be able to touch people in a positive way.

[00:34:29] Everybody has to have a goal for what they want out of whatever it is they're doing.

[00:35:45] Be good at the job you have versus worrying about what the next one is.

[00:36:03] If you're looking forward to the next job, I think it takes some of the focus away from the job that you're doing.