The dominant story isn’t working. In this bold conversation, Ben McBride challenges Christians to confront power, discomfort, and exclusion—and reimagine a faith big enough for belonging. Learn why he says we must be hard on systems, soft on people, and always building a bigger table.

00:25Iintro

01:34 Leaning into discomfort

06:10 Self-compassion, or hope that’s larger than our fears

09:24 Jer remembers similar experience with his dad

11:20 The need for a new story

15:28 The perceived righteousness of the dominant Christian story

17:52 Gospel of a dead Jesus

22:00 Personal Suffering and America’s Decline

26:22 Relationship with the powerful

36:00 Relationship with the suffering

38:42 The pace of transformation

42:51 Relationship with people in pain

45:25 Challenges engaging all sides at once

48:02 End

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Repairers of the BreachJune 24-27, 2025 "Your ancient ruins shall be rebuilt; you shall raise up the foundations of many generations; you shall be called the repairer of the breach, the restorer of streets to live in." (Isaiah 58:12)In the face of division, apathy, anger and violence, how do we as Christian leaders not grow weary? How do we remain awake to all that feels broken in our congregations, communities and world? How do we hold tension between the urgency of change and the slow pace of transformation? How do we nurture faith communities that restore hope and peace?Join us in June to explore these questions and more. Together, we will: Enjoy deep, formational worship experiences Process this cultural moment in community with other pastors Nurture our spiritual health and rest Discern where God is calling us now

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