Kelly and Ben talk with Professor Drew Hart about the scope of antiracism work in congregations since the racial unrest of 2020.

Resources Trouble I've Seen: Changing the Way the Church Views Racism (book) Who Will Be a Witness: Igniting Activism for God's Justice, Love and Deliverance (book) Designing Disorder: Experiments and Disruption in the City (book) Equal Justice Initiative (EJI)