James speaks about the case with forensics expert Francine Bardole - a colleague from the Cold Case Foundation - discussing developments in evidence processing and DNA which could, potentially, identify additional victims of Rhoades.

This episode contains discussions of homicide and sexual offences cases and forensic examination techniques. Some listeners may find this content upsetting and we especially advise parental caution.

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Out Of The Cold is presented by James Patrick, an intelligence specialist who served as a police officer for a decade. On leaving Scotland Yard he was commended by the British Parliament. He now focuses on threat mitigation and intelligence analysis, specialising in the digital and information landscapes. James is the Director of Intelligence at the Cold Case Foundation. (https://www.coldcasefoundation.org/james-patrick---director-of-intelligence.html)

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Francine Bardole and the Cold Case Foundation (https://coldcasefoundation.org) for providing unique forensics insight and background materials not available elsewhere.

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Reference Material for this video:

1. https://www.police1.com/police-products/investigation/dna-forensics/articles/police-history-how-a-magazine-ad-helped-convict-a-rapist-wEnPKjpf6S3brBpF/, Police history: How a magazine ad helped convict a rapist, Police 1, August 28 2018
2. https://www.police1.com/police-products/investigation/dna-forensics/articles/police-history-how-a-magazine-ad-helped-convict-a-rapist-wEnPKjpf6S3brBpF/, Police history: How a magazine ad helped convict a rapist, Police 1, August 28 2018
3. https://eu.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2018/12/20/contamination-triggers-delay-kentucky-rape-kits-backlog/2310035002/, Lab contamination slows progress on Kentucky's rape kit backlog, Courier Journal, December 20 2018, Matthew Glowicki
4. https://www.kuer.org/justice/2019-05-07/private-utah-dna-lab-faces-scrutiny-after-crime-evidence-said-to-be-mishandled, Private Utah DNA Lab Faces Scrutiny After Crime Evidence Said To Be Mishandled, Kuer 90.1, May 7 2019, Rebecca Ellis
5. https://doi.org/10.1111/1556-4029.14508, Comparison of the M-Vac® Wet-Vacuum-Based Collection Method to a Wet-Swabbing Method for DNA Recovery on Diluted Bloodstained Substrates, Journal of Forensic Sciences Volume 65, Issue 6, Pages 1828-1834, November 2020, Jessica M, McLamb M.S, Lara D, Adams M.S & Mark F. Kavlick Ph.D
6. https://www.labnews.co.uk/article/2029976/forensics-in-crisis, Forensics In Crisis, Laboratory News, September 2 2019

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Music:

Final Destination by Sascha Ende

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Prosecution, action, trumpets by Sascha Ende

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Dark Hours by Rafael Krux

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Horizon Flare by Alexander Nakarada

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