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8:18 MUSIC "Wahabibi"
12:41 INTRO Interview
16:33 INTERVIEW Part 1
57:39 MUSIC "Unlock an Immortal Seal"
1:06:55 INTERVIEW Part 2
1:39:27 MUSIC "Nine Doors"
1:41:47 OUTRO TALK

Please welcome my guests this week – yes, two of them – practitioner, author and creator of the website www.pansophers.com Samuel Robinson and his companion and co-creator Ian H. Gladwin as it is a really wonderful occasion to talk to both of them at the same time about their projects, utopian (or not so much) views on modern day occulture and so much more.

In our conversation we will try to find a definition for Rosicrucianism as a symbolic language of dying and resurrection, a universal idea that is told through myth ultimately leading to initiation. We will dive deep into the origins of the pansophic movement, the first manifesto of seven Rosicrucian brothers and how their promise to learn and share might work out in a modern version these days.

Another focus of the show will be Sam’s recently published book on Rosicrucian Alois Mailander who was born in 1847 and is supposed to be the well-kept secret Rosicrucian guide behind the Theosophical Society as well as Rudolf Steiner’s secret teacher.

And there is more...enjoy!