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6:16 MUSIC "The Concept of You and I"
10:07 INTRO Interview
15:53 INTERVIEW Part 1
50:49 MUSIC "In Principio"
57:20 INTERVIEW Part 2
1:35:13 MUSIC "Hard"
1:40:00 OUTRO TALK

Sometimes you just need to dare! I knew that Rawn Clark had not done many interviews, but I just got in touch - and he accepted! And so I am extremely happy to present to you this talk with a charming man, who through his enormous work and dedication have made the great Franz Bardon, Czech Occultist und important for many of you out there, well known (not only) in the English speaking world. Rawn gives us a deep insight into the approach to the initiative work you need to do, in what it can give to you if you do. But one thing is clear - YOU have to do the work!