**Recorded at Upaya Zen Center, June 3rd, 2006

Saturday Evening

Session from "A Retreat on the Secular Buddha"

Time: 1:25:54**

Stephen discusses how ideas, beliefs and views find form in the form, using the medium of art from both the Christian and Buddhist traditions. Using the teachings of the "Three bodies of the Buddha" Stephen argues that awaking is not adequately understood until it has found a concrete expression in the world, moving from the realm of the formless to the realm of form. The process of awakening is illustrated using the story of the Buddha's own awakening and his eventual decision to share his experience.

We gratefully thank our friend of Upaya, Ottmar Liebert for his contribution of music and bells used in our Podcasts.

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