Ben and Blake kick off the NHL Conference Finals with Shayna Goldman from The Athletic going from the East where the Panthers are still acting as the underdogs – then – over to the Stars and Knights. Later, why taking time for Kyle Dubas was a smart move, but declaring he’s not leaving Toronto made it a concern regarding his passion instead of a negotiating tactic. We close with the NBA conference finals and the pattern of Game 1 strength for Jimmy Butler, Erik Spoelstra and the Heat continues (29:24).

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