Guestcast with Stephen as he had just drafted a press release on the Covid-19 lockdowns. I wanted to hear his take on the way 'science' was being interpreted and politicised to suit the interests of the ruling class, how it was framed through the capitalist media, and how in all the policies that would ensue would be less concerned with the actual science and always oriented to ensure the protection of the expansion of capital at all costs. Incidentally, within 10 months that cost was 100 000 lives. But I guess that's science?

Dr. Stephen Hughes is a Teaching Fellow at the Department of Science and Technology Studies at UCL.