The two guests on this episode share a unique history that has seen them through almost three decades of working together at Concordia University. Rev. Dr. Ferry and Dr. Cario are two historians who made up the history department of Concordia in the 90s and now today they’re leading the university as president and provost, respectively. Listen in to hear from them why history matters, what it can teach us today, and how it continues to guide and inform leadership for both of them.