She has gone from protesting nuclear power plants to aggressively campaigning for their expansion as a way of helping the global poor raise their living standards.Raised in Great Britain by working-class immigrants from rural Punjab, her new book is Energy Is Life: Why Environmentalism Went Nuclear. She talks with Nick Gillespie about how she came to reject the ubiquitous arguments against nuclear energy she encountered as a child, how guilt-ridden countries such as Germany are increasing pollution by shutting down nuclear power, and why oil-rich Gulf States are betting on renewable and clean energy sources.0:00—The significance of a saucepan5:15—Thesis of Energy is Life9:07—Prosperity and guilt17:38—Extinction Rebellion21:36—Hostility toward nuclear energy27:35—The safety of nuclear energy31:10—France and Germany36:56—Zion's revelation on nuclear energy43:57—The nuclear energy industry50:50—China and the United Arab Emirates53:16—Energy policy56:42—Taking technology for grantedSubscribe at YouTube: http://youtube.com/reasontvLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Reason.MagazineFollow us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/reasonVisit the archive: https://reason.com/tags/reason-podcast