This episode is hosted by Yishal Thillinadan, an organizing committee member of Speak Up Sabah 4.0 project by AIESEC in Universiti Malaysia Sabah. He is joined by Shawn Stanly, an international relations student in UMS, a campus leader of Teach for Malaysia, and an active volunteer. The two discuss about leadership as Shawn also shares his journey in discovering leadership, from his high school experience to his recent work with Teach for Malaysia and Leadspire Academy.